₦airaland Forum

Shma:
I don't do blogs. I want a properly documented survey by the world bank - recorded in their servers. If you can't provide that then you have no room to lecture anyone about citations.

It's not a blog muppet

https://databank.worldbank.org/data/download/poverty/33EF03BB-9722-4AE2-ABC7-AA2972D68AFE/Global_POVEQ_KEN.pdf

Shma:
Why should I do it? No link, no report on its findings, no nothing just a mere write-up.

Now that we've tackled your other shenanigans, you're just about to defend this blog to your grave. while at it, dispute Statista- one of the most reputable sources which says our poverty rate as of 2022 is 16%. Or do you just believe countries with black-ridden economies were never bound to develop?

Here's your link

"the international poverty headcount rate is expected to
continue its decline, but only at a moderate rate to 33.1 percent in 2020 and 32.4 percent in 2021."

https://databank.worldbank.org/data/download/poverty/33EF03BB-9722-4AE2-ABC7-AA2972D68AFE/Global_POVEQ_KEN.pdf

And no it's nothing to do with race........just facts my bru!!

chrisooblog:
So? still trying to figure out the point you are trying to make

Follow the conversation.......rvp was saying Kenya's poverty level was 17% when in actual fact it's closer to 40%

Shma:
Which latest figure? 2015? . Please, drop the link.
Even with your link, Kenyan data is 7yrs old. Too outdated to justify anything in 2022.

"Another important message is that, as Kenya urbanizes, cities are not providing enough
economic opportunities for urban households to improve their income levels and obtain adequate standards of living. Despite a
drop in the growth rate caused by the global COVID-19 pandemic, the international poverty headcount rate is expected to
continue its decline, but only at a moderate rate to 33.1 percent in 2020 and 32.4 percent in 2021."

Source- World Bank

Shma:
Which latest figure? 2015? . Please, drop the link.
Even with your link, Kenyan data is 7yrs old. Too outdated to justify anything in 2022.

see my other post with your 2020 and 2021 poverty figures

chrisooblog:
Can't I comment on what you posted again? Geez man it's too early in the year to be paranoid

you quoted me 3 times on the same post bru?

Shma:
Statista collects and integrates data from different sources then they come out with their findings. They don't just dig data in their bat.
Statista GmbH (Hamburg) collects and aggregates data from multiple public and private sector sources, including ACTA, AWA, Euromonitor, Gfk, Outfit, Scarborough, Simmons, Target Group Index and VUMA


We're in 2022, not 2015. You cannot use 2015 data to prove anything. At least 2018, for Nigeria, it makes a little bit of sense, Boer.

see my other post and Stfu

chrisooblog:
But next time bro don't forget to state that the figures for Kenya and SA are 2015 and 2014 respectively

bru why are you constantly quoting me?

Shma:
Your rage is not coming from WB source. It's how I've called things as they are while quoting samboro. I have no apology for that if your nerves were hurt, sorry(for not apologizing).

Secondly, I quoted jl115 with 2015 figures to debunk his 37.9% rate - which he didn't Back-up with any reliable source.
QM:
With the descending curve.
2005 - 46•8%
2015 - 36•1%

How the hell can the figure pump once again in 2022 to a whopping 37•9% when the curve in those 10 good consecutive yrs has been going down?

Statista, a source that has been countlessly used to prove things here, it has a 2021 poverty rate data at 16%, you can't disregard it.

Had to embolden all the years to save you from sinking deep into the miasma of confusion.

"Another important message is that, as Kenya urbanizes, cities are not providing enough
economic opportunities for urban households to improve their income levels and obtain adequate standards of living. Despite a
drop in the growth rate caused by the global COVID-19 pandemic, the international poverty headcount rate is expected to
continue its decline, but only at a moderate rate to 33.1 percent in 2020 and 32.4 percent in 2021."

Source- World Bank

Shma:
Rvp is 100% correct.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1227076/extreme-poverty-rate-in-kenya/#:~:text=Some%2016%20percent%20of%20Kenya's,downward%20trend%20observed%20since%202017.


Unless comprehension is not your forte.

Kenya's extreme poverty is not 37% - it is 16% just as RVP is telling you.

Stop this unnecessary argument.

Presenting statista as a source vs the World Bank?? are you good bro?

Your poverty is 37% according to the latest WB figures!!

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.DDAY?locations=ZA-KE-NG

Shma:
Also, the curve is descending. I anticipate a shocking figure in the next 5 yrs with the same trend. 2005 - 2015, the gap drastically reduced with a whopping 10%

Yes and South Africa's decreased by nearly 10% as well between 2005 and 2015.

Shma:
Yes, in 2015 - 7yrs ago, Kenya poverty figures was @1.90 a day was at 36%.
7yrs after, in 2021, only 16% of pp lives below the poverty line.
You can't be pro data then disregard statista.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1227076/extreme-poverty-rate-in-kenya/#:~:text=Some%2016%20percent%20of%20Kenya's,downward%20trend%20observed%20since%202017.

I'll stick with WB figures thank you very much, since it is an actual organisation that does studies and research, where as statista is just a website that reposts statistics, not unlike Wikipedia in fact.

https://data.worldbank.org/topic/poverty?locations=ZA-KE-NG

samorobo:
Yes it’s doesn’t change the fact that u are the world most unequal zoo..this singular facts pains you to your bone marrow cos it’s render all your argument useless and baseless .by all mean necessary deal with it.

Did I say South Africa was not unequal? Again you arguing with yourself All I state was that SA has much less poverty than Nigeria and that Black SAns earn twice as much as the average Nigerian........These are statistical facts and I've posted links and citations several times when we had this same debate months ago

samorobo:
Nope that ai t the case.stop wasting my time.

You wasting your own time my bru one can't argue facts........

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/denel-unable-to-deliver-on-hoefyster-contract-armscor-recommends-cancellation/

Possibly a blessing in disguise imo.....this will allow the SA army to go for the iklwa upgrade on the ratel which is much cheaper..

gallivant:
Okay I accept. Chill out.

LOL!!

gallivant:
Bru!! Pre covid data. I rest my case.

And you think post covid will look better? are you ret@rded?

gallivant:
Let's not throw around random figures, statistical facts are supported by anecdotal evidence. Come on bro!!

Yes I know...hence:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.UMIC?locations=ZA-KE-NG

gallivant:
Pre covid statistical fact. Feel free to provide latest data with credible source.

You think it's decreased to 40% in 3 years with 2 years of Covid pandemic?

Come now bru!! don't argue statistical facts

rvp20182:
When? This must have been when you redonimated the cedis from 50,000 to a dollar to 1 to dollar. As we speak Cedis is now at 6.60.

Your middle class cannot be at South Africa level

These are the latest WB figures

gallivant:
South Africa is wealthier so I expect the figure for Kenya to be higher. But 87%? That's just too random a number. Why not 40%, or better yet get the latest figures, with a credible source. Baie dankie meneer.

Because it's not 40% it's 87%.....and it isn't a random figure, it is a statistical fact from the WB

gallivant:
Since covid South Africa has digressed economically. How can I logically accept pre covid data my friend?

My bru we ain't near 87% like Kenya ..........even with our economic woes

gallivant:
2018 data, great.

with Covid not much would've changed mate

gallivant:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_t6nZgX0AA5vWR.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_t6ny_XIAQoI32.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_t6oVFWQAIAUks.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_t6oyeX0AAx7B6.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCJ65EgX0Ast03R.jpg

Not quite like Jacaranda city(Pretoria) but nice

gallivant:
$5.50 in your dreams. Please come down back to reality.

Know your role and stay in your lane

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.UMIC?locations=KE-NG-ZA-GH

Just40:
please adjust the poverty line to 5 dollars per day so he will know how poor his country is.

I believe at 5 dollars, Kenya poverty rate will almost be at 85%..

5 dollars is a more realistic line for a middle and lower middle income country.

Shot
@$5.50 a day

SA: 56.9%
Ghana: 55.1%
Kenya: 86.6%
Nigeria: 92%

rvp20182:
World bank figures have link and year - etc. That 37% sound like kenya poverty line. I think extreme/absolutely poverty is half of that
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1227076/extreme-poverty-rate-in-kenya/

Nope 37.1% @ $1.90 dollars a day
https://data.worldbank.org/topic/poverty?locations=ZA-KE-NG

theenchanter:
Cc: Rvp20182

I made a typo:
Kenya: 37.1%
Nigeria: 39.1%

rvp20182:
17 percent of kenya live in extreme or absolute poverty. This international poverty line of about 2 dollars a day a person.
40 for Nigeria.

Now when we talk poverty - they are many types of poverty - and measures - even in developed country - someone earning less than 20K dollars a year is poor and receive a food stipend.

I honestly don't know where you get your figures:

World Bank poverty figures: @ $1.90 a day

South Africa: 18.7%
Kenya: 37.1%
Nigeria: 39.1%

QuietMynd:
My point still stand.
And mrap is not the same as apc

A MRAP is an APC

samorobo:
Uhmmm nope,that ain’t the case.

actually yes that's 100% the case

samorobo:
Uhmmmm nope, you are the world most unequal zoo for a reason. Are you still confused?

you can continue to say no as much as you like Sammy but that doesn't change the facts