₦airaland Forum

MAN1960ii:
Don't sound like that besides the name of this trend gives you an idea that issues concerning any African nation's security or her military can be discussed here

Let's just talk about what's going wrong in AFRICA military POWERS and their solutions

Yet when we say what's wrong with X nation's defence force it always turns in to a d1ck measuring contest, that's why we stopped.... However I'll be more than happy to oblige the above if you want

GeneralDae:
Okay you mean GDP ppp, next time make it clear you are talking of ppp. Egypt has the highest ppp in Africa though but they are about half the population of Nigeria.

I've been talking about GDP ppp from the get go, it's the most accurate way to compare economies!

Shma:
Nope, you didn't.

But... Let's just agree to disagree.

you can literally see where I started the debate bru

There is no "let's agree to disagree".... You came into my debate EOD!!

gallivant:
You need to relax Boer. Take it easy.

naahhh just want to show Tyser that he fvcked up

Shma:
Again, you're confused.

I told you, I agree with WB figures, and I even posted the data, however, those figures that we have to deal with in 2022 are not there. That means you came up with your imaginary figures anticipated by a blogger - regurgitating WB data, then conclude that WB says your data as of 2021 is this and that is it.

Zombie.

-Nope: see pic of me starting the debate on population 6 days ago

- I showed you the latest WB figures, that's all mate

@tayser

Your boys @Shma @rvp20182 @gallivant all agreed that Nigeria has a bigger GDP than SA and Kenya mostly due to there population size.... Are you going to say they are wrong as well

Shma:
You jumped into the debate that was not yours, which was talking about population, now see how you're confused!

Yes, we're in 2022, if you've to use that logic, then implement the same on the GDP with a 10% growth rate. Figure it out with $117B more or less.

I just took time to read your article and I can confirm that indeed, it is data sourced from WB report, 2005 -2015 by Kenyan bloggers - then compiled in 2020. Now, that brings us the question; you don't know how to read, or, is comprehension, not your strong point, or you're just an ignorant buffoon?

Not even a deranged can use projected figures to drive a point. The article was written in April 2020 - regurgitating the same content compiled in 2015 by WB, then it has 2020 & 2021 figures, smh?

I'm not a racist, you are. Your racism is in the act, not words. And I can confirm that from your previous quote.

it was I that started the debate wrt population you muppet you jump into my debate not the other way around!!

Except we don't need to use your "logic" we have actual WB figures

It's the WB.... Not bloggers mate... Please learn the difference

It's the WB mate... So yeah!! We can certainly use there figures

Stop playing victim... Me besting you in a debate isn't racism

samorobo:
And how is that?. They have a higher population than us but our gdp is about twice of theirs.So how are you calculating your figures?

why you changing my posts? I said Pakistan has a larger GDP.... Although in 2021 it also has a larger GDP per capita

And no it's not they have a larger GDPppp

samorobo:
Uhmmmm no.Go juggle those petty lies to some Soweto illiterate.it means your illusory middle class and wealth per capita doesn’t exist in reality.you are the world most unequal zoo for a reason.you still need evidence?well read below

Attempts by the now-democratic government to wipe away the legacy of apartheid and colonialism have failed to narrow the imbalance between rich and poor, with 3,500 adults owning more than the poorest 32 million people in the country of 60 million, it said in a report released this week.



Still in need of more wicked proof what were you saying about wealth againnn??

In South Africa, the richest 10% of the population own more than 85% of household wealth, while over half the population have more liabilities than assets, the report showed. That gap is higher than any other country for which sufficient data is available, the group added. The richest 1% in South Africa have likely increased their share of wealth since the end of apartheid, the group said.

OK and? Still arguing with yourself? When did I say SA wasn't unequal?.... I said the average black South African earns twice as much as the average Nigerian... This is a fact.... The poverty rate for black SAns is 22% the poverty in Nigeria is 40%....
So who's better of?

Tayser:
But you said Kiswahili is not even a lingua franca of Kenya. Now its both. Guess you're halfway there.

and you said English wasn't a lingua franca in Kenya... Guess we are halfway there

Tayser:
You confidently said You will NOT find a country with a similar population size that has an economy smaller than Nigeria. Were you tipsy when you wrote that? Or you thought you were conversing with monkeys?



We are not done with your insanity. No more latjie questions for now untill we scrutinize your academic and intelligence credentials and establish you mentally fit for further discussions.



Yet another reason we must first assess your academic credentials. How can Paki have a bigger population and a smaller GDP than NIgeria, and end up having a higher Per capita? Is this Laatjinomics or has the pandemic done a number on you?

- Pakistan has a larger GDP than Nigeria... So I'm waiting

- simple question you don't want to answer because you know your entire argument will fall to pieces if you did.

- go read my post again... I said Pakistan has a larger GDP than Nigeria, the per capita part was a typo hence I fixed it last night already.... Also Pakistan does have a larger GDP per capita than Nigeria anyway according to the latest IMF statistics

Covert1:
Rather to the contrary. Highlighting the free fall of the SANDF serves to alert critical military thinkers and policy makers of the need to reverse the trend else the balance of power in the region is negatively affected and exploited by rogue states and non-state actors as we see in Mozambique. If the terrorists there get the level of funding and men ISWAP has got in the LCB and the Sahel you bet their eyes will be on the big price SA and in the current condition the SANDF will collapse in the face of an onslaught by rampaging islamafascists terrorists.

We in Nigeria accepted our short comings and worked extensively to reverse it. For years we were pilloried by the Southies even if we had the commensurate strength but we admitted the lack of capacity and requisite capabilities for CT/COIN that needed to be acquired hence we invested heavily such as doling out half a billion dollars for 4th Gen. dedicated CT/COIN Super Tucano Aircrafts. The Nigerian military was essentially a conventional army designed to close with, engage and destroy the enemy and more broadly to conquer and capture capitals of nation states but not for a jihadi war. It took years but we are now reaping the results of investment in CT/COIN assets and training and also extended those investments to more robust conventional capabilities.

So the BHT war became a blessing in disguise. But first we had to sound the alarm that something needed to be done. This is what Southies here blinded by patriotism should do not gallivant to the gallery when their house is on fire. Essentially we no longer have a viable defence partner down South. Nigeria cannot throw its military power around everywhere you need defence partners. It will take 5 to 10 years for the SANDF to modestly baulk up capabilities again at this rate of free fall.

Behold the 21st Century NAF Inset. This is serious firepower and no one these parts comes even close. The evidence is here.

nobody is blinded by patriotism.. We are fully aware of the short comings of the SANDF... Which thankfully unlike other countries I shan't mentioned is funding related and not doctrine related... The problem is your sheer obsession and jealously wrt SA and the need to highlight all that is negative about the SANDF which 1 isn't uncommon in 1ste world militaries and 2 at least we have excellent transparency and we are able to see every single problem inflicting our military

,if we wanted to we could've inundated this thread with negative news and stories about the NDF on a daily basis, but we choose not to but rather focus on the positives.... Now get over your obsession and focus on your own military

Tayser:
Does that equate to Swahili is not even the lingua franca of Kenya?

Both are considered Lingua franca in Kenya...

Tayser:
Not in the mood for juvenile undescended testes types of questions.

What gymnastics would you do if someone threw in Pakistan (not sure someone did or not) with a bigger population than Nigeria but a smaller GDP?

That question is in regard to this most preposterous claim

My bru!!! Go read my comments before spewing your nonsense.

I said in general larger countries in terms of population have bigger GDPs, that's a statistical fact as there are more people spending money. This is certainly the case wrt Nigeria and SA since SA has a GDP per capita which is 3 times the size of Nigeria.

Now answer this...is the average Nigerian richer than the average Kenyan?

Also FYI im talking GDP ppp since that is considered the more accurate way to compare economies....and Guess what! Pakistan has a larger GDP

Tayser:
Thats definitely enough to ruin Jln's day. He was smitten when[b] I said Swahili is the Lingua Franca of the region, let alone Kenya.[/b] Now he'll whine, in his entitled Karen fashion that Swahili has taken his Oranian Majuba Day.

English is the lingua franca in Kenya

Tayser:
For someone who thinks population equals GDP I think we'll take a careful pass

When did I say this?

Shma:
So Kenyan government is deranged for conducting door-to-door counting (because they are black - Africans/ no value/ useless.) As opposed to the white @rseholes that do it with approximated data.? .

https://housingfinanceafrica.org/documents/2019-kenya-population-and-housing-census-reports/

I was talking about Poverty figures but ok

FYI that's for 2019....if we use the average growth rate for Kenya over the past 5 years and apply that to 47.5 million as in your source then we are @ 52 million which fyi is very similar to the figure of the World Bank

Also the thing i've noticed is once I've e-whooped you, you always resort to racist rhetoric..........be gracious in defeat my bru

Shma:
Did I quote you, bro? You're now being all over the place like a village mongrel.

Don't sh1t your pants bru!! I can qoute whom ever I like .........and yes you did quote me several times today!

Shma:
You don't need to operate on artificial brain cells. We have figures, you can exercise your brain cells a little bit by doing your own math.

The data in all those servers were based on approximation. we now have the door-to-door final figure which is 47m. Should we still believe WB approximated figure and ignore the door-to-door counting?

Yes!!! I will believe the WB before I believe an anonymous deranged Kenyan on NL!!

Shma:
Why should I use an outdated figure yet I have the most accurate data at my fingertips?

Because you used it for Nigeria's population.........compare apples with apples

theenchanter:
I'm responding to ur assertion that economists expected Nigeria's GDP to have surpassed SA's prior 2014.

ahhhh.....Still don't know how that's relevant but ok

theenchanter:
I believe u cited worldometer for Nigeria's figure, pls do the same for Kenya, let's see.

shma never takes stats from the same source to compare........he will always take sources that put Kenya in the best light and X country in the worst light........HE will never compare apples with apples

theenchanter:
and that's because we didn't rebase our GDP earlier. I know that for real.

That was long after your rebase bro we talking about 2018/19

Shma:
Drop an illustration like this.

I will be waiting

I did

https://databank.worldbank.org/data/download/poverty/33EF03BB-9722-4AE2-ABC7-AA2972D68AFE/Global_POVEQ_KEN.pdf

theenchanter:
pls, stop repeating the emboldened again. We floored u GDP wise in 2014 when oil prices was soaring high and we rebased our GDP.

U've been the largest economy for decades, not because of ur population, at least the majority blacks are not really adding much to ur economy.

Yes and you also fell back down to 2nd not so long ago................NO economist on this planet thought Nigeria won't overtake SA....In fact most economist thought Nigeria should've overtaken SA a decade sooner!

Shma:
I agree. And thanks for that correction.

BTW that's your own conjured up GDP stats.......the WB, IMF ect ect all place Nigeria ahead in terms of GDP per capita

Shma:
Lemme help you understand: I know your witty brain cells are still bamboozled.


Nigeria: $480B/210,000,000 =2286.00USD
Kenya : $109B/ 46,000,000 = 23700.00USD.

First thing first, our per capita is huge than yours.

... I was just about to tackle the next point but lemme leave it at that point .

it's barely bigger than that of Nigeria my bru!! certainly not huge!!

Also this ain't official GDP stats but your own conjured up one!!

obaaderemi:
If it's all about population then Kenya should have a bigger GDP than Morocco. Nigeria's GDP is bigger than yours because Nigerians are productive. The edge you have over Nigeria in terms of per capita has to do with the headstart you had in the 19th and early 20th centuries and your link with old Europe, not to talk of your huge mineral deposits. You had a firmer foundation than Nigeria. Nigeria didn't even become a country until 1914 after the amalgamation.

But look at how fast South Africa is sinking. Nigeria already got a bigger GDP, maybe in your lifetime we will have a bigger GDP per capita too. Probably, Kenya too will catch up with South Africa as RIP has been dreaming for six years.

Who said it's all about population? I said the reason NIGERIA has a larger GDP was down to mostly it's population. Nigeria lags behind SA in nearly every single economic index imaginable!

Also if we look at projections done by PWC..........neither Nigeria nor Kenya are catching up wrt GDP per capita

Shma:
The Kenyan poverty level is not 17%, it is 16% you brown-hair @rshole.

Nope it ain't it's 33%

Shma:
It is, zombie.

Do you know what a blog is?

Shma:
@rsehole, I don't want blogs. Anybody can come up with that projection.

I want something like this. Don't juggle with sources, just to prove negativities. I would be glad if you had channeled this effort to search for positivity.

The world bank isn't a blog bru!! Don't go full ret@rd

obaaderemi:
His sarcasm flew over your head.

and obviously mine flew over yours