₦airaland Forum

Nchenches:
To collect rent and increase the value of landed property in Owerri area are the only reasons why people of Owerri zone struggle to have every govt institution and establishment for Imo state to be located in Owerri zone. They don't care a hoot about other zones they share Imo state with. Primitive greed.
Go give your examples of Arochukwu and Akwa Ibom to the birds of the air.

Just like I thought. You know absolutely nothing about what you're talking about. Owerri people have not ruled Imo state up to 2yrs since creation of the state and the ordinary people do not have power over the location of institutions neither are all the institutions located in Owerri. How many of those properties are owned by Owerri people? Why are you distancing this conversation from the PH, Arochukwu and Akwa Ibom examples given? Why didn't Arochukwu, Offorolla, Umuagwo, Okigwe and the Akwa Ibom community develop despite hosting institutions you're crying about? Are you implying You're just bird brain fuelled with jealousy and blind hatred for Owerri People?

Nchenches:
You say awkward Orlu or Okigwe? Orlu and Okigwe, especially Orlu zone, have been clamouring for a new state they deserve, but your Owerri people keep on saying, if Orlu zone is taken out of Imo state, the rest of Imo state will collapse. There is no state in Nigeria where all federal government tertiary education institutions and housing estates are located in the state capital zone, except Imo state. Imo state is rather the awkward state as Owerri literally seizes every government in in Owerri? What kind of witchcraft do you people do against Orlu and Okigwe in Imo state?

The problem with Orlu becoming a state is with their counterparts in Ihiala, Nnewi etc and whether Ohaji Egbema saying they're not related to them. It has nothing to do with Owerri people. NOBODY IN OWERRI IS TRYING TO STOP ORLU ZONE FROM JOINING THEIR COUNTERPARTS TO FORM STATE It is the federal government that creates states incase you didn't know. Abia is bigger than Imo state even though it was carved from Imo. Still Imo didn't collapse and Abia didn't become better than Imo despite having Aba business hub. This amount of hate for Owerri people is too bad. Have you being to Rivers State and seen how many institutions, estates and markets that are in Port Harcourt area alone?
This is one of the reasons Nigerians are dying in suffering. Focus on hating each other instead of attacking the incompetent rulers. How developed is Okigwe ever since IMSU(now ABSU) was located there? How developed was Umuagwo Ohaji ever since College of agric (a.k.a Imopoly now UAES) was located there? How developed was Offorolla ever since federal college was located there? Even Nekede and Ihiagwa axis just witnessing a boom in development during these later year 2000s despite hosting FUTO and FEDPOLY since the 70s.
Owerri is not even developed enough as capital should be. Imo and Abia are just cursed with backwards rulers.

Nchenches:
Mbakwe administration and the World Bank spent a fortune and opened campuses of Alvan Ikoku College of Education in Umuahia and Orlu. Big Hostels and classrooms were built in Umuahia and Orlu then. After Mbakwe administration, Owerri politiciabs tricked a military governor to close down the campuses of Alvan Ikoku College of Education in Umuahia and Orlu. They said Alvan campuses can't be viable in Umuahia and Orlu.

The Umuahia and Orlu campuses were closed. Students and staff were forced back to pay rents in Owerri.

Go and check Abia State college of education in Arochukwu even as at today and one federal Polytechnic like that located in Akwa Ibom. How many colleges are viable on their own? Anybody old enough would know that the college's were like fourth choice and both parents and students would rather take jamb 10times than choose to attend them. Campuses for university sef are struggling so I don't see how campuses would have been viable for a college back in those days. Everything is not about paying rent in Owerri because every other institution by the state were located other places.
What they said might not be far from the truth. Try to see everything with clear eyes not about trying to hating on Owerri. Owerri and Owerri people are suffering from the lazy type of governance in Imo.
Mind you that Owerri people are not the ones ruling in fact they're being marginalised from becoming governor yet the people in charge will just pack money into their pockets, patch control roundabout and claim they have rehabilitated PH road or they'll repaint or replace the concrete blocks along bank road and claim they have changed the face of Imo. Imo governors are only better than former Abia governors.

Gotocourt:
Northerners will take it. Orji Uzor Kalu is a choice but he doesn't have that influence 🤷

If such a thing happens we'll see how it plays out. The position ought to stay in South South based on rotation of other posts so Tinubu knows why he's using Akpabio for now. It's not hard to hang on till 2027.
But whichever way Na their pockets.

Gotocourt:
Northern region will spearhead it Sir. Even Tinubu is well behaved

That's not the question. I was asking based on zoning?

Gotocourt:
Akpabio jam igbira woman wey get madness

Na Tinubu dey keep Akpabio, his impeachment will come as a surprise

Impeachment to put who again from the region?

Nchenches:
Imo most expensive to live in is a self-inflicted injury.

Before return to democracy in 1999, politicians of Owerri cornered 100% of federal and state government institutions and parastatals and located all in Owerri area.
Rest of Imo state have to drift to Owerri for settlement.

Even till today, Owerri refused to stop cornering for location in Owerri any federal government development institution. The latest is a Federal university teaching hospital imposed upon Federal Medical Centre in Owerri, whereas there are too many locations in Imo state outside Owerri for the hospital. Excessive Greed of local rent collectors and native land owners.
We have FUTO in Owerri, ALvan Ikoku Federal university, Owerri, Federal Polytechnic Owerri, Federal College of Lands Owerri, Imo state university Owerri, all federal housing estates to Imo state located in Owerri, all state and federal ministries and paratarals are housed in Owerri. Nothing, absolutely nothing left for any other place in Imo state to develop with.

I'm not an Owerri person but truth need to be told. Only Alvan and FMC(teaching hospital) are in Owerri. Those institutions were initially located in rural areas outside Owerri but I guess they federal people didn't care to go far enough into the jungles As of then because what you now call as Owerri has grown up to meet them.
As for the estates, I don't know and Owerri people has been fighting against government since time immemorial. All of their ancestral and farming lands are being wiped out for things they may not have much stake in it. Mind you it's the government that forcefully apportioned the lands and allocated the houses. Most recent housing projects are private partnerships.

State institutions were located imsu in uturu okigwe, Alvan(a less desirable college then) in the heart Owerri, college of agric(imopoly now UAES) in Umuagwo Ohaji/Egbema. The new state institutions by Rochas, Ihedioha and Hope are located Coll of edu in Mbano, state Polytechnic in Omuma, Oru east L.G.A. IMSU was relocated to Owerri in a them secondary school site under emergency following the creation of Abia State and dividing Okigwe with boundary line just to collect the university. IMO STATE INSTITUTES WERE NEVER CENTRALISED IN OWERRI AS YOU PURPORT
*) Imo teaching hospital is in Orlu built by Udenwa, commissioned by Obasanjo.
The federal teaching hospital that you're talking about is beyond our control because I personally don't like it's location but federal government decided to transform their federal medical centre into federal teaching hospital. It has nothing to do with Owerri or other zones. Other hospitals you and I may want to suggest are not properties of federal government. So that's that.
1) Owerri is the capital so that's most likely where parastatals will be located or do you expect INEC office or federal secretariat to be in ideato or onuimo!? 🤷🏻‍♂️

2) FUTO is in ihiagwa, closely located to federal poly nekede but they're not close to fecolart offorolla. However all of them are in Owerri north L.G.A BUT THEY ARE NOT INSIDE of "Owerri" and their locations are far from any house for rent or market that is inside "Owerri".

3)These institutions (except FUTO) started as colleges and were not given much consideration and they didn't have much population until recently after jamb started unified utme.

4) Alvan started as a state college again with little to no consideration. At a time it was almost a taboo and was tagged a housewife's school.

The main issue is "a person may be wise but, people are stupid." Irete is a landlocked community. Where are the herdsmen going to go through to attack only Irete? Someone had raised this same scare one late night about or over a decade ago when I was living around there and some people were even panicking and running to their friends house as at midnight while normal people were sleeping soundly. The small commotion woke me and I just shook my head for humanity.

The guy that was narrating the video is a lost cause. Doing everything to sell lies against the lecturer. The video is clearer than glass. If truly the lecturer's students were coming for her she for dun look like Chinese people inside chemist shop.

If they're not your offspring or supportive parents, relations or friends who offer encouragement for your progress and mental sanity, you don't need them. Ask yourself, If you should get arrested or have a medical emergency, how long will it take for them to know or to be reached and how many of them will run up immediately with your bail money?

PigTormentor:
When was 15Gb ever 2k?

I have been using 6GB for N1,500 for as long as I can remember. On Airtel and MTN whenever I'm in town.

It's always been there On myMTN app. Many people don't know about it and you can only sub it through the app

Mrfeel:
All states are secular states but some states are so religious that alcohol is banned?

All states are secular but almost all states are so religious that abortion or homo is banned.
*And yes, I stand against those things but I had to mention them because secularly, there's no reason to ban them. The only reason they're banned is because of the religious feelings of people. That is the same reason alcohol is banned.
*None of this changes the fact that this country and all 36 states +FCT are secular states entities. Will you be saying the same when the Muslims and Traditionalists start pressing their own demands and installing their own items?
You and I know say their own no dey easy to handle.

SeeWahala:
Don't worry, by the time 2023's history repeats itself again in 2027 I will buzz you

I'm an Igbo man but It's none of my business whether it repeats or not. Crazy things can abruptly start happening anywhere in the world as we can see in Congo-Rwanda, Ukraine-Russia, Gaza.
It won't deny history.

SeeWahala:
From this your tirade I can hazard a valid guess that you were not in Lagos during the last general elections where Delta State people, akwa ibom people and even some Yoruba people were beaten black and blue for simply looking good and smelling nice like igbos

Better get off my mentions if you don't have anything better to say or do I'm not a kid you can rile up with biased or myopic sentences

Only kids shy away from facts. I'm well aware of what purportedly happened in Lagos last elections. It doesn't in anyway invalidate the facts. Neither will hate change the course of history.

Dogalmighty17:
She has indicated she will be throwing her hat into the ring. She just wants the fire issue to die down first.

Alright Na, make dem watch what kinds of weight she has left.
I was even thinking about that. How come our own VPs (&most deputy governors) kind of vanish into thin air after office. You'll rarely see them going back to represent their people in senate, house or gubernatorial.

mastermaestro:
Every mouse is a cat online. Go sleep jor.

I've given you much attention already. You might just as well be one of these genz scrubs.

Mrfeel:
Booted out by who? Benue is a Christian state

All states are secular states.

SeeWahala:
Yes oh 😁 they like to run for every single political position available in any foreign land they travel to . . .

But for someone else to travel down to their own land and run for political office is a very huge taboo 😕

Even for their own brother just because he has an igbo mum who his Yoruba father loved 😍

Nwanne Jiri eziokwu na-eme ihe, let's not be spreading hate and misinformation all the time about this country. In any part of the Nigeria, anybody including non-nigerian citizens can become elected or appointed.
The major problem would be if the person has lived or invested there long enough to gain popularity. It's easier in metropolitan areas like Kano and Lagos.
*OGHENE Egho, from Delta State was elected to the House of Representatives to represent Amuwo Odofin Federal Constituency, Lagos State in the House of Representatives on the platform of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP.
*Hon. Tony Nwulu was elected member of the House of Representatives on the platform of the PDP. He dumped the PDP for Unity Progressive Party (UPP) on which platform he pursued his governorship ambition in Imo State. The young lawmaker represented Oshodi Isolo, Lagos federal constituency.

Dogalmighty17:
Who be this one? Which party will be run on? Kamala Harris will likely be the dem nominee.
The Dems in california are more or less a mafia. If you don't get the blessings of the bosses, don't even waste your time.

He may want to run as a Republican. Even though the Republican party in California has been in the wilderness in recent years.

Is Kamala Harris running for governor?

mastermaestro:
Shariah in the North nkor? Oga, shut up! Tell them in the core north to separate religion from state first before advising Benue state.

Go and tell your father to shut up. Wetin concern this post with Sharia? Am I a Muslim or am I in the North?
If you're stupid, try and check who you're dealing with or you pick a physical location let me rearrange you.

Cross Ke? Absolutely not.
Separation of state and religion at all levels.
In fact if the arms of government were actually doing their checks and balances, he'd be standing on thin ice right now to be booted out.

Educationalserv:
Kano governor is in-law , leaders son commissioner, several family members holding appointment.
What of ObI ? Zero nominations in Abia
His son in UK follow LGTB .
Him that cannot handle his son
Na Nigeria

Even a blind kindergarten kid can see this has no relevance to the issue being discussed. Please if there's nothing meaningful or intelligent to add in this discussion, it would be nice to say cheers 🥂

Educationalserv:
Kano has a stooge
Abia has. A independent candidate.

I don't know about that neither do you. They both won from incumbent PDP and APC stronghold state. It's no mean feat. Give a man his flowers irrespective of interest. Whatever happens later is nobody's business.

Educationalserv:
he Didn't Miss cos even his 1.4 plus Obi 6.3 cannot Coast them to victory.
OBi Missed the VP he now neither VP or P or Two zero .
Kwakwaso has State Governor
Obi zero

According to INEC in 2023, Obi + Kwankwaso = 7598220 vote. Both of them have strong structure they could have been able to pull ONLY if they were on a stronger coalition. It would not have been as easy to be throwing away their votes how LP votes were being discarded in broad daylight. Rivers State probably wouldn't have been traded last minute, they would have increased voter turnout for them plus 2-3 states within the North and South South
That is fact. That was their (especially Kwankwaso's) missed opportunity.

Meanwhile it was 1-1 for them
NNPP won in Kano
LP won in Abia (and we all know about Enugu)
Anyways give them both their flowers.

zeyt:
Atiku should sacrificed the seat for Peter Obi that will be the only way to dislodge Tunibu in 2027.

Yeah, this is exactly where some nigerian politicians seem to lack the foresight to pull off a Tinubu or Joe Biden move, which is to stall your ambition and pull your resources together for a current viable candidate. In reward for VP, secretary of State or other key rulership position. Osibanjo was just placeholder for VP position. Tinubu was controlling almost everything including senate and house leadership. Now, as we saw with both Biden and Tinubu (even Abacha), This type of move also solidifies their own stand to go ahead for the top seat later.
Kwankwaso was the biggest loser in this once in a lifetime case of 2023 elections.
But it's not late for any of them Atiku, Kwankwaso, Tambuwal etc to form a strong merger. Can they find a strong southerner to be their VP or let down their egos to have a foot in the door?

Gotocourt:
Only a formidable southern candidate can defeat Tinubu
Tinubu will dislodge an northern candidate. They should all support Peter Obi

A repeat of Goodluck E Jonathan one term can't be repeated

Actually Tinubu will become like a Saint, held in high esteem almost like Mandela if he leaves after one tenure.
The Northerners might actually be the one to dislodge cos they have been clamouring for a chance to complete their (Yar'Adua) Tenure. OBJ 8yrs + GEJ 6yrs + Tinubu 4yrs = 18yrs for the south against 10yrs (Yar'Adua 2yrs + Buhari 8yrs) for the North since 1999 democracy.
The greatest alignment/power consolidation might be Tinubu taking a bow and APC bringing an northern/southeast ticket. It'll be beyond genius and APC might effectively end opposition with just that one move but politicians are mostly out of touch with reality so, let's watch the coming months to see who will be throwing their names into the hat.
Maybe a scenario of someone like Tambuwal or Kwankwaso as VP to Obi. I don't know if Amaechi as VP to Atiku will fly but they and any other parties need to start banding together cos there can't be 26 different winners of the election.

Abagworo:
The only reasonable thing is to create Anioma State and join it with Southeast to balance the States distribution by zone. If that will not work then a 6th State should be created from combining parts of existing Southeast States or still Ogoja be created and added as 6th State to Southeast. Zoning is not entirely based on ethnicity.

Anioma needs to be created but not necessarily for southeast cos they're having issues with the other tribes like Warri side who don't appreciate them being in the same state talk more of having capital just because of Babaginda's wife Miriam


I know it's not based on ethnicity but Ogoja to the southeast ke? You wan burn everywhere? Ikwerre and Anioma sef no agree.

Etiti state is the best proposed while Orlu/Urasi seems to be most popular in the southeast.

saintjimos:
Additional what

Only south east deserves one more state to balance 6 states per zone

It will take minimum 8 states per zone to attempt to balance the equation.

But FCT, Lagoon and New Kaduna should be among the laziest names ever thought of.
Etiti looks like the best placed (on map) for the southeast but they should change (maybe to English) name. Ekiti State already exists so the confusion in addressing them individually. Both Ekiti and Etiti has the same sound and meanings in Igbo language. Both words mean centre or central in Igbo.

God1000:
His own business

But FG will not create just one state, so many people are clamoring for their own state including my people in Benue.

The current political arrangement in Benue doesn't favor everyone in the state

We need Agba state

Honestly, many new states are needed. I think Nigeria needs at least 8 states per zone.

Currently It doesn't favor many state people.
Imo state: Udenwa, Rochas and Uzodinma from the same Orlu zone
Rivers State: Peter Odili, Celestine Omehia, Rotimi Amaechi, Nyesom Wike all from within Igbo tribes despite having many languages and tribes in the state.
Only few states like Delta has managed to be rotating power. It's even worse in terms of sharing locations for government institutions and development facilities

casualobserver:
You are still talking nonsense. Your desire to see Obi as president is clouding your ability to think clearly. The only path for Obi is as vice President to Atiku and that comes with its own challenges.

Obi is not becoming president of Nigeria under any permutation. Once you can deal with that you can start to think clearly.

You've outdone yourself. You've shifted the goal post to an entire different arena for an entire different sport on an entirely different continents. Cheers lad.
Kindergarten must have been a headache for your teachers.

casualobserver:
Are you trying to be a comedian or a fantasist!

casualobserver:
If you are thinking of being a scriptwriter, trust me it’s not for you.

casualobserver:
Try and make sensible comments.

I almost forgot Nairaland was a beehive of kids, for a second I thought I was replying to a mature person who could manage two phrases without being butt hurt and resorting to insults and keyboard warrior braggadocio.

casualobserver:
Atiku and ElRufai will sit down and watch Kwakwanso take the slot, Atiku will sit down and watch his life ambition disappear before his very eyes?

Were has Atiku been sitting all these past years since 2007?

casualobserver:
The north that has a problem with Tinubu will sit down and hand over power to the ibos and trust Obi will not want second term on 2031?

This is not the topic being discussed. Shifting goal posts don't win arguments.

For the last time, 2023 Obi + Kwankwaso = 7598220 votes according to INEC. If Kwankwaso had the foresight and done a Joe Biden, he would have had a foot in and now been eyeing for the seat of President at the end of their tenure or per chance the principal gets impeached. Both of them have strong structure they could have been able to pull only if they were on a stronger coalition. Rivers State probably wouldn't have been traded last minute, increased voter turnout for them plus 2-3 states within the North and South South
That is fact. That was the argument. That was their (especially Kwankwaso's) missed opportunity. Time cannot be rewound so, This conversation has ended.

casualobserver:
Oga please reason like reasonable people, nobody is sidelining someone with 6m votes to accommodate someone with 1.4m votes and could not get 25% in more than 1 state.

No part of your reply was related nor necessary to my comment. Try comprehensive reading, it develops the power of reasoning.