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Nuella

Are you there?

nuella2: , the motives and thoughts is what makes it sin. If not no Christian will masturbate under any circumstance weda medically. But this is simple to understand na.

I just re read your post again . Can you be clearer on it?

The guy knows he is boxed in from every side . Wetin hin go do na?

Question 2 was not in our deal. And it's insignificant . Your action is cowardice . I'm sure you're digging for a third question .

answer this question and I will answer yours, When a christian goes to war and kill, Is it a murder and sin against God?

What happen to the integrity of your promise here? I answered you ,he didn't commit murder ,he didn't sin against God.

Goshen360: JOAGBAJE,

1. IF A CHRISTIAN BELIEVER GOES TO WAR AND KILL FOR HIS COUNTRY. HAS HE COMMITTED MURDER? YES OR NO

2. WHEN THE GUY ASKED, DID HE ASKED THE QUESTION BASED ON MEDICAL TERMS AND/OR WHEN YOUR DEMI-god ANSWERED THE MASTUBATION QUESTION, DID HE ANSWER ON MEDICAL TERMS? YES OR NO

Answer these two kweshions and I will also answer you before the whole world reading. Thank you.

Ive answered you . Stop being a coward bros. you are not honest that's alll. You tried everything to avoid the answer. You tried quarrel , you've tried derail , you've tried abuses, your last bullet is question for question. I answered you . But you're not a man of your word. You simply lack what is called honor.

Ptolomeus: I insist that I am not gay, and I guess you're not, but I do not discriminate anyone.
I do not think that everything that we do not like is to be demonic. I think everyone is as it is and nobody has the right to judge.
I think a gay can do much damage and / or much good, as a transsexual or heterosexual.
I am not informed that one of the greatest mass murderers have been gay ...
I do not believe that Satan has nothing to do with it ... Satan operates mainly in the polarization of the people, hatred, segregation ...
Who segregates gays, blacks, Chinese, poor, sudacas ...
Yes, Satan aimed at other people.
My respects.

I don't discriminate against gays. I love them . And i wont relate to them as gays , but as people . The same way I won't discriminate against drug addicts . It's a problem and they need help. The only issue is that many of them don't know its a problem. So that makes help difficult . The bible makes it clear it's demonic.

What now make gay issue more problematic is the recognition they seek. And gay marriage endorsement. A time will come when gay movementIs well established, bestiality will start. A man will seek to marry a Dog and have sex with it. Then goat , the circle of perversion will not end. Satan has agenda.

GOSHEN

If a christian man did mastubation as required medically for sperrm test. Has he sinned? YES or NO

This guy ,you're a real clown . So you want to change the question.

Goshen360: Also answer this question and I will answer yours, When a christian goes to war and kill, Is it a murder and sin against God?

Christians don't go on rampage to start killing. They join the army . If they feel need to defend their nation , and for that it is not a sin to kill. Killing for self DEFENCE is not a sin either if that's seem to be the only way out.

Goshen be a man now . YES or NO. your time starts now. . . . . . .

nuella2: Hello Jo, good evening.

This your friends don't get what your trying to communicate, the motives and thoughts is what makes it sin. If not no Christian will masturbate under any circumstance weda medically. But this is simple to understand na.

I dey do my best to communicate jare.

Goshen360: Shataaap there! Can you answer musKeeto or My own question? You dont have the gut to dare answer either. Hypocrite!

So I have given you a place to hide. I want to remove your hiding place now .

It's not a sin for a soldier at war to kill. So my answer is NO.

buzugee: i am sure you have come across people like this. they are all over the place. they say the new testament was written some 300 years after the messiah and that it is all fake and the only real bible is the old testament. agree or disagree ? ever met people like this ?

Its not true. But Either written 300 years or 400 is not the reason for authenticity ,what counts is the truthfulness of the content. Early apostles have their writings in circulation in thier days .about 70 Ad or so. But it was later compiled as a book in later years. So it wasn't written by some latter grandchildren . They wrote it themselves .others only compiled .

Goshen360: Also answer this question and I will answer yours,

When a christian goes to war and kill, Is it a murder and sin against God?

So your point is that it's not a sin if mastubation is done for test? Abi. Even though you don't have the gut to admit it.

Gayingsm is not just a sexual orientation. It's demonic. It's not about sin or no sin. It's about what spirit cause perversion. Let's not forget. Bestiality . They all fall into the same category. There are sexuall experience which are demonic as well .

Romans 1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Goshen360: Sharaaap there! Hypocrite! . . As long as you keep talking to me, I will keep talking to you.

Beautiful now I'm talking to you, would you kindly give a honest answer to my kwesion . If a christian man does mastubation as required medically for sperrm test. Has he sinned?

musKeeto: A necessary troll on this thread.. the question he asked i've answered several times on this thread... he loves to feign ignorance when his stupidity is shown for what it really is...
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I dont ususally read your post Maybe I didn't see it. So can you give me a yes or no answer .once and for all

Goshen360: ^^^
Hypocrite! Now you are not interested in your own cult you defend on the thread of mastubation This is strange! You can defend your cult organization that mastubation is NOT A SIN YET YOU CANT DEFEND YOUR CULT ON HERESIES.

I can't be going in circles over tithe matters . You can read my contributions on that. My conclusion on tithe is simply let everyone be convince in his own mind.

Romans 14:5-6
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Goshen360: @ Joagbaje,
If you think I preach heresy, go here and attend to the truth your cult organization is teaching: https://www.nairaland.com/924786/wife-would-rather-pay-tithe

Thanks I'm not interested . You can get your own cult to attend to it.

musKeeto: wow... wonderful editing Mr. JoAgbaje.. do you have Microsoft NairaWord processor on your system... I thought you just said Goshen won...

Ok I get your point. I do edit my post a lot . Many afterthought . I didn't break no rule.

musKeeto: And you've lost... nice to be a loser for once, right?

No winner yet ,My question is still open .

If you claim that's it's a sin against God. What of those who do medical sperrm test. And they have to mastubate in a speciall room. Many of the patients are Christians. Have they sinned too?

Can you answer yes or no

^ do the same to your heresies

Goshen360: Why are you being like one of religious hypocrites. I am done talking this matter with you. If not that ATMC mentioned my i.d, I wont have said anything. NOW TELL US, WHAT IS THE CORRELATION BETWEEN CHEWING GUM AND MASTUBATION? What is wrong with you?

Secondly on the Bolded. Yes, Pastor said the guy should just stop it by replacing it with good habit. The problem of you and your heresy is that you take mastubation as mere habit. Smh. No body will question or attack what pastor chris said should he had stopped at that statement but he went on to say IT IS NOT A SIN AGAINST GOD AND GOD GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, IT'S YOUR BODY. This is pure heresy! Very Simple because the body of a believer is no more his when such believer comes to Christ but it's the Lords and it is the temple of God.

Jesus said, if ANYMAN will be His disciple, he must deny SELF. Do you understand what the Lord meant by that statement? Joagbaje, am DONE TALKING TO YOU AS FAR AS THIS MATTER IS CONCERNED,OKAY.

Am talking to ATMC PLEASEEEEEEEEES. IT IS VERY CLEAR YOU CAN DIE WITH CHRIS. I DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT, DON'T JUST BRING YOUR HERESIES HERE. OKAY. YOU JUST GO ARROUND THAT IT IS NOT A SIN AND YOU CANT EVEN PROVE IT ALSO AND WHEN WE SHOW YOU FROM THE WORD OF GOD YOU START GOING IN CIRCLE. PLEASEEEEEEEESSSSSS.

You just don't want to hear the truth that's why you want to shut me up. Okay you have won. I said earlier I have helped many out of mastubation. So I do t encourage anyone to do it. But its a sin for you to labell something as a sin against God when God never said so. You are using your religious emotion to add to scriptures.

I once asked a question . If you claim that's it's a sin against God. What of those who do medical sperrm test. And they have to mastubate in a speciall room. Many of the patients are Christians. Have they sinned too? Can I get a yes or know answer. If you say they have sinned . I will clap for you. But if you say it's not a sin in the hospital , you're hypocrite.

Jenwitemi: Souls do exist, buddy. Even an amoeba has soul. Just because you don't want to believe that does not alter anything.

I believe The early men are demons Today. They have soul and spirit . Their spirits have not being judged . They are desperately seeking a human body to Indwell and express themselves .

Azibalua: How do we know one who is functioning in the office of a prophet and not just exercising the gift of prophecy?

All may be called prophets in generic terms but The man that has gift of prophecy does not have authority that a Prophet has. A prophet is a face to face man with God. Some ignorant folks use words like . We are all thesame . They lack knowledge of spiritual things .

The gift operates in to ways . By desire and by grace. We can desire a gift to operate in. And we start practicing by faith. The grace part is that you may just see this gift manifest even without a desire for it. An influence comes upon you and you operate under it. But the office of the prophet just like the apostle . I will call it the duo highest office. Actually the bible make reference to apostles and prophets as highest positions in the body. A prophet is an embodiment of gifts. He has authority . It's not what you just stroll into. He is a seer. A watchman , an intercessor. Several gifts work with the prophet. Word of knowledge ,word of wisdom , discerning of spirit, healing , miracles . He walks in this graces . He is a friend of God and a partner with God in world affair. He is not a man to be grieved . Even though a prophet has to manage his emotion . By being very humble because the words of a prophet carry power. Even in the flesh. Why did Jesus curse a tree? Was it by revelation or by emotion? . If a prophet say certain things jokingly ,it may come to pass. So he has to tame his tongue. That's why most prophet are humble and forgiving.

My point is it grieves me when I see people abuse prophets of God ignorantly . Without knowing the consequences. People don't really know the who a prophet is.

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A lot of people do not understand the functionality of the office of a prophet
@ op
Can you throw more light.?

The point is that the parameters used by many christians to judge true prophets are wrong. The know nothing about who a prophet is.

nuella2: Great thread.

Can't we pray and change prophecies especially danger. Why do some prophets dwell more on confirmation, I thought prophecies are warnings, meaning even the prophets should not just wait for them to happen but pray and fast if possible to avert it. Is the office of the prophet just declaring what must happen?

There is preaching part of prophecy , there's warning part of prophecy . There's judgement part of prophecy actually the last two go together.

Jeremiah 1:10
See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.

Some people can prophesy to individuals , some can prophesy upon a city. Some other are prophets over nation , nations and the entire world.

If a prophet gives a warning. He is to be consulted on what to do to avert it .except of course if the solution is already common knowledge. There' are things that can be changed , and there' are things that cant be changed due to to certain spiritual laws.

logicboy:
JOAGBAJE, DO YOU SEE THE EXTREMISM THAT YOU ARE PREACHING? Sohiap agrees with you and wants the nation to become a theocracy where prohphets are answerable to no one but God. He wants prophets to have the ability to withhold rain for 3 days and let people die of famine and starvation because they did not worship his God.


Death for not being christian. Are you any different from Boko Haram?

Every thing must not land on Jo. Why not question sophia? You dey fear am? I didn't say what Sophia said . And I may or may not agree with her.

logicboy: lol, you think your lies will not be challenged?


Please, show me where the bible says that the youths were hooligans like you said.

Everyone can see that you're a liar.

You could have simply ask questions instead of overworking your emotions.

They were not children as popularly assumed . They were accountsble young men .Here's a quote for you from amplified.

2 Kings 2:23
From Jericho he went to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, a gang of young men from the city began mocking and making fun of him because of his bald head.

Pls kindly close the door behind you if you have no meaningful thing to contribute

Mark 6:4
But Jesus said, "Prophets are honored by everyone, except the people of their hometown and their relatives and their own family."

People usually criticise what they dont understand . There is a general level where we can all function by faith . For comfort ,edify etc. that's what most spiritually limited christian dwell and judge others.

We can all function to a level in spiritual ability. There's the general prophecy by faith. There is Gift of Prophecy and there's a third level which is the office of a prophet. Most people don't understand the office of the prophet. He may not be comforting or edifying . A prophet can judge! He can pronounce judgement On a nation or individual. A prophet does not necessary have to say sweet things. He warns of dangers and judgment . He has spiritual authority. He also gives direction and instructions. When a prophet warns of dangers coming , he shouldn't be label as prophet of doom. He is not an exhorter. But he may give exhortation. We must understand the ministry and office of The Prophet.

People usually quote 1corinthiana 14 to judge a prophet.

1 Corinthians 14:3
But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.


When Elisha pronounce judgment on those hooligans youth was it an exhortation or comfort. We should not misuse one verse without understanding to judge ministry gift.

The man giving exportation, comfort may not be a prophet . You may prophesy but you are not a prophet. Just as you may evangelize but you and not an evangeslist. You only do it by faith. To be an evangelist is a call , it's an office . To be a prophet is a call and an office. Let's try to understand this office and respect the prophets among us.

Jenwitemi: But he supposedly made the wrong choice and that in HEAVEN, a place of supposed perfection no less. If Lucifer was so perfectly created, he wouldn't have been corrupted enough to have chosen to be a rebel. He would have made the right choice because of his supposed perfection. It is not possible to be created perfect and turn imperfect along the way and in a perfect place(supposedly) like heaven. Are you getting the fallacy of the perfection postulations here? It is an argument for babies.

God could have made lucifer or Satan obey him. But he would only have been a robot. Is that what you call perfect?