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Alwaystrue: Neither was the whole book of Malachi talking about Tithes and Offerings, it also spoke of those who oppress the widows, employees, strangers, orphans, divorce and so many other sins. .

macof: answer his question, is Mal 3:8-11 preaching law or freewill?

Every group of people has a law that all must follow, the Jews have their laws, the Oyos have their laws. It's not about gentile vs Jew, it's the Jews who are looking for rivals, so gentiles don't even cares about their laws because they have laws of their own

Laws are made to guide principles. They are variants of the same thing

macof: And tithe didn't

Candour: Are you saved by the covenant with Abraham or by the cross of Jesus Christ?

dami_paul: .” So when a christian is healed of leprosy, he's supposed to take pigeons etc to sacrifice on our 'beautiful' alters?

Candour: When somebody quotes Mal 3:8-11, what is he talking about there? freewill or law?

Candour: Good you mentioned freewill offering.

It's freewill therefore i can choose to do or not to do and i also determine proportion if i choose to do. There was no punishment for not doing it under the old covenant so imagine the freedom under the new.

You can't put Tithes and freewill offering in the same boat because if you do, Tithing becomes freewill with no consequence for not doing it or freewill offering becomes a command, ordinance or a law.

macof: Is Abraham one of ur ancestors?

And to ur question- Abraham is an ancestor of the Jews. He was referred to as an Hebrew in Canaanland.

Hebrew- "Ivri" in Hebrew bible meaning "other side" signifying Abraham was from the other side(a foreigner from Mesopotamia)
All Hebrews began to be called Jews sometime ago, so yes Abraham was a Jew

Yet Abraham didn't pay tithe to Yahweh but El Elyon(God most high) for delivering his enemies to him in battle.
Abraham tithed not as a law but out of appreciation to Elyon.

So Africans have no business with Tithing to Yahweh

Pastors these days threaten Christians to pay tithe as if they are obligated to

OLAADEGBU: This is another attention seeker looking for his prey. You better tell your brothers in crime to clear off this thread as you all operate under the spirit of antichrist.

macof: Jesus was Jew, and he was talking to Jews not Africans

macof: One question
Are u Jewish?
Because in the Bible, tithing is part of Jewish traditions as an African u have no business wit Jewish laws.

Candour: Be specific just as you're specific on tithes.

which of the offerings? burnt, peace, sin, heave, first fruits, passover, tabernacles etc?

be specific on the type you give to God today.

The moment theological discusses transcend teaching in patience and meekness, it becomes a tool satan can use to divide the body of Christ. We should all avoid this.

fredx4: I do believe that satan can minds coz there's no way they'll intefer with our thoughts if they don't know what were thinking about in the first place and they can also attack physically. thanks for the good job.

Alwaystrue: @Bidam,
I learnt about giving all my salary in a month once and I laughed the first time I heard it. But after laughing I talked to myself and later prayed for grace to do it. That is why I say grace is an enabler. Do you know God provided in such an amazing way?
In the church I attend now for some years now, they do not talk about giving all salary but I did not forget my experience and since then for over 5 years, a salary a year is used for people (needy and ministers) and nothing of it comes to me.

trustman: So if you tithe, you are obligated to keep the whole law.

Bidam: What if you love your neighbor as yourself( lev 19:18). Last time i checked,it was also part of the Law.

trustman: So if you tithe, you are obligated to keep the whole law. That is what the Bible says. Maybe you can now begin to see the seriousness of this matter!

frosbel: You work as a pastor ? Does this mean you depend on the tithe ?

frosbel: You work as a pastor ? Does this mean you depend on the tithe ?

frosbel: No problem with being rich but do it on your own sweat.

frosbel: I think these verses apply to your ilk who are deceiving the sheep of God with false doctrines and erroneous error , turning the gospel into a money making venture.

frosbel: "people are laid to rest and do not rise again. Until the heavens are no more, they will not wake up nor be roused from their sleep." - Job 14:12

ayoku777: That's not true! Do you remember the story of the rich man and Lazarus? It was an actual event because Jesus was detailed even to the name of the begger.

Does this sound like someone sleeping and waiting for the jugdment to you?

And in other matters. RIP to Paul Crouch, he was a christian tv media trailblazer. He took the risk when many believers couldn't and he inspired many with courage to do the same. Now christian channels are everywhere.

mekaboy: I wonder why most christians will prefer to take pics with worldly celebrities like psquare dbanj wizkid olamide and post on their facebook page rather than their pastors and spiritual fathers.

Alwaystrue: Looooooolz,
Just seeing this. Thanks, you got part of it. I have learnt to avoid those who cannot bridle their 'tongues'.
e and to talk about people. No hard feelings.

frosbel: Gone to be with the Lord in glory ? How do you know this.

He is dead and waiting like the rest of the dead for judgement day.

Job 14:12
" So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep."

zube01: ...inother words he understands u..so long as u know what u are requesting from him!