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Silentgroper:
everybody dey form busy ... No one really wants to help make the thread work.. I've tried on several occasion to ressurrect the thread but it just keeps going back its regular state .. Me sef kukuma leave .. when the other folks are up to it . It would come back alive...

Hmm..
I hope it better comes back oo

MSGAMBLE9:
Please don't remind me of Spur's own... glass cup commot my hand in awe of shocked that day...


We can't use fluidity alone to win the league, we need grit and decisiveness especially when you are been chased by the Unrelenting Citizen.

Lol.. Anytime I remember that spurs own, I dey always vex I no go lie.

True, we need that decisiveness in order to win league. It's just paining me that Jesus misses goals good strikers ought to hit on target/score.

Na why the way Martinelli and Jesus dey miss clear chances just dey vex me. I know how many points we don drop due to missing big chances. Aston Villa, Tottenham and Liverpool ystdy.

Silentgroper:
Gomez was dangerouser .. lol ...



Klopp should start considering playing gomrz at that left back .. He looks tidy down that wing..

But bros, wetin happen to una thread na. Una just allow that fine thread die laidat. Haba!!
And Una get correct fans oo

You, Capa.ldi, Minem.erys, anfiel.dfan and co, make Una try resurrect am biko

MSGAMBLE9:
Talking about being clinical, did you notice how Jesus blast that lay-off from Nelli in the first half like nothing is at stake... that should have been 2-0 cos he has grounds on VVD.


Even Jesus is not all that.

Jesus dey taya me sometimes with his poor clinicality.
At least play correct shot, if GK save am, we go know but he just blasted it high. It was frustrating
Same thing he did against spurs that would have made it 2-0 too

WhoDeyHause:
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Spy360:
I like Hausa.

He thinks like me. Away from the crowd.

If calling Saka and Martinelli "the worst wingers in his arsenal's history" is thinking away from the crowd, I beg I wan join the crowd with full chest.

Say you wan reason away from the crowd no mean say you go deh talk say 1+1 = 5

Spy360:
Alvarez this season cannot be called a bench player

True, since he's started almost all matches due to Kdb absence.

daveP:
a few. Not much in epl.

You see why Shegz.dave said the person just dey look for talk wey no dey?

BlueRayDick:
All that one Gakpo was struggling to impose himslef in the game, Firminho go don dribble our defenders score solo goal sef join

I just deh reason say the day we go beat dem for anfield, Salah suppose don comot.

Na since those 3 and Klopp come EPL, anfield turn slaughter house for us. Last season and this season wey 2/3 of the three no deh start, we dey see draw

Last season sef, we for beat them for anfield. Na just dat Firmino wey Sabi score us even with him 2 eyes closed, naim spoil show.

I'm just looking forward to the day Liverpool go dey lineup with

Gakpo. Nunez. Diaz

Hopefully, our anfield run go end

daveP:
The truth is there are teams in EPL that will bring the max out of this Nketiah we dey frown at. Same for Nelson. Players are at the behest of managers. That's why top experienced manager bring out at least 70% of a player under them unless they no wan align. And sometimes, talent is just too much(Ronaldinho) sotey any lifestyle can be ongoing but wont impact onfield. So, yeah, some teams want our players too. We also want some team players as well. Infact, Alvarez alone from City. O boi!!

True talk.

But aside from Alvarez (man city), which other top teams would you want their bench player too and which player is that (attack only)

daveP:
That question sha go make person think abeg. Tok true. 😁😁😁


Its more of impact sha. We are getting there.

Exactly, we're getting there. Hopefully, we'll have more strong quality bench coming in that we will all be happy about.

But on a more serious note, the question made me think, but not about our team. I had to see other teams too and their bench and I noticed that most of these teams would even love to have our bench as starters Tbh.

Na we dey underrate this team

daveP:
I'm not saying he's not quality. But back it up with stats na. Big games only.

Remember ratings of big 6 games player is a thing, using Heung Min Son as the face of that Table. Though not a sub. But easily gives results in big 6 games. We are getting there. We are! 😎

Lol... If you're looking for stats, I doubt you'll hardly see any even with all those top clubs you're eyeing.

You ended up using Son, a starter, as example. That tells me you can't easily spot out good quality attackers in bench for these top teams. Which is my point all these while.

If you say we don't have a player scoring consistently against big teams, that's another discuss on its own (and I might even still debate it sef )

But now using quality bench to drag Arsenal? No naahh!!

If all our players are fit, I feel we have one of the strongest quality bench (personnel wise). That tells you a lot. Na just Arteta deh loose guard

daveP:
Yeah. You're right. This is where usage of personnel is now the koko. Is like the selling off a player cos he no give desired results with a manager's game approach. Only to suddenly become a banger with a relatively less popular manager all rounda. Few clubs get maximum of a player's potential truly.

Why I said that is because you think or feel most top teams have good options coming from bench while we, we just dey delulu ourselves with Trossard and Nketiah.

C'mon na. Give this our team some credits

daveP:
You still never answer o. Or should i draw inference from this new assignment you've dropped? 🤗

In present reality Yes.

If Trossard for example, is playing for Man city or Barca or Madrid or so, you'll still point same Trossard as a quality option coming from Bench.

But now, he's with us, you think he isn't quality enough?

Lemme tell you the truth, none of Liverpool attackers fear me(aside Salah and Jota). Th rest can have the good days once in a while but they never scare me like the Liverpool I know. How much more "their bench"?

One thing I'm certain about is that most teams have dearth of attacking talents as bench. Gone are the days you'll have Ronaldo on the pitch and Ronaldo2 on the bench. The football world is no longer producing good attacking players for one to be easily benching.

Aside from Man city (with Alvarez), I can hardly count any other team that have quality sub attackers that'll grip the fear out of opposition when coming on(unlike those days).

Why we may not have the best and hope for improvements, sometimes I still feel we underrate what we have.

To put it fairly, Most top teams would Kill to have Trossard starting for them and not even on bench. The underrating is too much sha

BlueRayDick:
Mane would’ve roasted White since na

Luiz Diaz no capitalize at all

Even Nunez, when he came on and tried capitalising, his final ball and decision making was off.

Omorr, as I deh watch am, I just dey remember those trio. Chaii, our defence really suffer for their hand sha

daveP:
A question i just saw on twitter


In a big game,you need goals to win. Are Trossard and Nketiah the subs you bring on to make that win possible?



😒😒😒😒

This question pain me. E suppose pain you too

Please, indulge me.

Do this for any big team, I want to know their options. Man u, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man city, Tottenham, Barca, Madrid, Bayern, psg, Juve.

For arsenal, you've given two.

Please, lemme see the two each for all these clubs I beg you.

One thing I'm thankful for in this Liverpool team is that they no longer have Mane, Salah and Firmino partnership.
This Liverpool attack is very very subpar compared to those trio(imagine only one clear chance Salah had and he scored )

With the big chances, Mistakes in our dangerous zone in our half and half chances we gave them today, we for collect like 3-1 or 4-1 at least.


Those guys really gave me pstd!!

Hausa:
The Saka and Martinelli situation has been a cause for concern, and it is only being covered up by the immense displays of Rice and the defenders.

When Sanchez and Ozil were trying their best, the defence was whack aF.
The defenders are now doing well, and our attack is toothless.

Their unpredictability is a sign of IMPROPER DEVELOPMENT.
That's why they tend to blow hot and cold from time to time.

Our attack is not totthless.

If you're looking for the definition of toothless, go to man utd thread.

While I want improvement in our attack play, especially that Martinelli but I think your criticism is over the top, with all due respect

Omorr, this is the worst performance I've seen from Martinelli in an arsenal shirt. He's been poor lately but this is the height of it. Gosh, I almost hated him today

Also I noticed our players, attackers mostly are mostly predictable in their moves. Once we reach 18yard box for a shot, Saka is always expected to cut into his left and shoot while Martinelli does same in the opposite flank. The worst part is that opposition knows that's what they want to do and they'll block the space leaving room for shots with their weaker foot, yet our attackers would still want to force it and it's killing our goalscoring chances. Last season we were very unpredictable as Saka scored some right footed shots at the wing (Everton and Leeds for example) while Martinelli scored some left footed shots (west ham and crystal palace for example). Now, they don't even try it at all. If they don't cut in to take shot, No show!!
Also Martinelli needs bench time.

Havertz. While he's not been bad lately, but our attack dulls with him when he's on the ball. Sometimes players will be running and I'll be expecting him to release the ball to the attacker esp in space only for him to turn back and pass(killing the potential goalscoring chance). His workrate esp and confidence is getting better but he needs to add attacking facets to his game. He's an attacker Mf for crying out loud.

I think arsenal had their moments while Liverpool had theirs. Tho we were lucky with the Odegaard handball and Trent miss but overall it's a fair game.

Defence was good except for Zinny. Sometimes his overconfidence can be very very tiring. Tried defensively at least in the second half compared to his first half roasting. We need Tomi quickly

Not a bad result but we could have been better clinically

Before I drop pen, Big Hats off to Saliba and Rice. Those two have been holding this team well and giving the forward confidence. Gabu deserve a mention too


COYG!!!!

Hausa:
As a Gunner, I'm not sure if I'm the only one worried about our attackers, saka and Martinelli. Then add Odegaard to the mix.
They're just too poor for my liking.
Yes, every player tends to have off days, but the off days of saka, Martinelli and Odegaard are so much that it tends to be covered up by the better displays of Declan Rice, and the rest of the defenders on the pitch.

I said before that saka and Martinelli are not Special Talents. If you see a Special Talent, you'll know.
The problem with the both of them, including Odegaard is that because they have no models, they're unlikely to develop more than they already have. I will never get carried away by the goals they score because, no. They're not DEVELOPING.

Compare with Fabregas, who had a lot of models around him (Henry, Bergkamp, Pires, Viera, Edu, Kanu, Campbell, Toure, Hleb, Rosicky, Diaby, Adebayor, Gilberto, Ljungberg, etc), it was easy for him to raise his game and also learn from the best.
Who and who would I consider models where saka and Martinelly can raise their game and learn from? There's literally know one.
That way, you can see that years have gone by and there's nothing like GAME PLAY IMPROVEMENT in saka and Martinelli. We might want to say, "oh, they scored 15 goals a season." Yes, they did. After that, there's nothing else to show in their game.
It becomes a cause for concern because you genuinely wonder where these attackers can take us.

I was under the impression Trossard was better than Martinelli and saka, but the lack of models in the team means he's struggled to even replicate the game play he brought from Brighton, and has struggled to even raise his game.

I've been a Gunner for more than 20 years and I can tell you for free that saka and Martinelli might be scoring goals and giving assists, but they're the worst attackers we've had since I v following Arsenal.
I hope I'm NOT the only one paying keen attention.

I believe you're the INLY ONE paying "keen" attention

iamoyindamola:
Shebi 😂
Jodera was telling me because he was rb last season he’s better than tomi

Emphasis on Last season.

Him don start again..🤔

mostob:
Heard A FB and a midfielder are the top priorities.
Logically, it seems Toney's deal was already done together with Raya's going by what #arsenalfanatic is saying.

Do you think Arsenal will buy a player that hasn't kicked competitive ball for months to help us in title run in?

Hmmmm

BlueRayDick:
U are ignoring one major thing, our playing style! Nketiah comes to the middle to receive ball when we are transitioning the ball into the opposition's final third, Jesus does same. U can draw inference that it is Arteta's instruction they do that. Any player we get that will be unable to do that will just be warming bench. That is Arteta's style.

If u ask me, I will support Arteta getting another striker but I won't be surprised if he doesn't get the type of striker u are suggesting sha.

I would even be surprised if we get any striker at all.

I hope we do but I just feel it's the media that's forcing all these striker needs Tbh. Jan no far again sha, let's see

daveP:
That pass would have been a boost for Nelli and Saka.... breaking the Anfield embargo for all of epl. The little things do matter mehn. Split seconds and vision with a pass. If na Fabio, we for be champs by now, gunning for a 2nd. See the TAA trying hard to be Usain Bolt to no avail. 😂😂😂😂

That day I was just vexing why it wasn't Trossard that was in that position instead of Nelli(you remember it was Trossard that gave Nelli that ball).

That pass really vex me ehh. How with that acres of space, he gave that nonsense wrong pass to Saka. Omorr, I wan cry

BlueRayDick:
To buttress ur point, our goal returns during the invincible season was not really fantastic. We even scored more goals last season than the invincible season.

You sef don see am.

Na points be the koko no be Gd!!

daveP:
My bottomline is what I'll still stand by. Don't miss my point with the auba input o abeg. Getting better is the goal. I'm sure we all agree on that. Title winners and missing chances are like 5&6. Are we going to depend on that or continue making more that will make one win title that will eclipse the chances not converted?

Of course, we need to win title but to win the title we need to win Matches.
Who scored which goal is not important as long as the goal is scored.

There's this subconscious feeling whereby if a striker is scoring all the whole goals, the team might want to depend on him and all the scoring responsibility will be placed on him. We saw this during Auba and when Auba went on exile. The season he went on exile, he scored only goals and the team as a whole was doing badly scoring goals(even our position before that was poor). Immediately he was confirmed he won't play for the team again and Laca entered as main striker, we saw how everyone stepped up and we surged for top 4.

Man city is a team winning league without great striker (pre Haaland)
Liverpool won league and gained 90+ point 3ce without great striker.
Even Bayern pre Lewy was winning league without a great striker.
Madrid this season is 90% sure to win league and if they do, it'll be without a great striker.

All what these teams have is that they're aren't a one man team(even though they're some outstanding individuals). Why do you feel our own is impossible if we don't have a 25-30goal striker?

daveP:
One pass we often overlook in why we lost momentum last season was this....

I don talk about this pass like 2-3 times last season. E still dey vex me tbh.

But we move, new season, still competing for league. I hope the boys gets it right this time

daveP:
Yes we got 88 last season. But who else saw the GD that City used to win that league? And some of us are content with that, thinking that the players that gave that 88 would replicate it absolutely. We've even forgotten auba sef. 22goals back to back. That's a consistency we crave but is absent in our Attacking Line right now. A consistency that Ollie was nowhere to be seen but is now bossing on the list of G&A.


Bottomline: Let's aim higher abeg. If you're comfy with 88 then you're thinking very small. Verrrryy small. Considering the teams we are up against. I always say if it went down to deciding title by GD, we won't cos we haven't been set up to give that. But some are satisfied that everyone is netting. Naaaaaah. Factory Reset pls!!

If there's only one person in this room satisfied that all our goals are shared, then I'm certainly that one person. I no dey hide my mouth for this one.

We all know Auba have been giving us good goals frequency but how was the team then? I'm not bad mouthing Auba but the team effort first over any highest goalscorer biko. I hate one man team to be honest.

As as for the bolded, you talk as if the EPL is decided mostly by Gd and that's where you're getting it wrong. It decided by Points! points!! points!!!. The only time it was decided by goal difference was in 2011/2012.(over a decade). Before that, I doubt it was decided again any other season. So why should we be worrying about goal difference when we should actually be worried about points?
You're talking about 88goals scored, when in actual fact you should be talking about the 85points and how we ought to better it. Wrong priority if you ask me. Even Salah that you're always using as example, the season Liverpool won league was one of his poorest goal returns of goals (alongside their front three) but the season he scored 32 goals, they finished 4th.

Like I and Mos.tob are always saying, the team as a whole is missing chances. Quality Chances!!!. Let them start converting the chances and let's get all maximum the points needed. As long as we win the league, I don't care. If dem like let dem score less than 88goals, na dem sabi!!.

Oasis007:


During Sir Alex, all these matches were better watched with fried chicken wings or grilled fillets, coz you were damn certain of max points.

Gone are the days true true.

Truly, life na turn by turn

ChristoBam:
Very stupid mofo. He also did it to Di Maria. Imagine how many years ago that was.

imagine!!

Very useless ref