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Shegzdave:
Ómò, the dude is goal barren ooo

See Me thinking he has a goal already, but they said White was averages a RB last season

Agenda sha

Lol, I know say na typo error you make

I remember during the season I and Mos.tob were talking how those wey never score goal how their first goal should be important goal like Zinny, White and Jorginho (if you're to add that own goal ).

We both came to a consensus that na only Tomi own remain.....

Shegzdave:
I saw a post on Twitter also stating White as our most underrated player but I didn’t realist until now when I saw you and Oyin.damola arguing about it. His looks contributed to that (boy looks soft).

I hope when Arteta wins the EPL, those who try to throw him under the bus will give him his flowers

Lol, I'm hardly on twitter sha but at my ends, na only here I know say White dey underrated sha.

All my Arsenal friends love White even though they still say they prefer Tomi. Even my brother who's a Liverpool fan even acknowledged White's performance last season. I'm even surprised seeing how Sod is rubbishing White's performance last season.


Fingers crossed on how this season will pan out sha

Shegzdave:
Una too like agenda how in the world will someone say White was Average as a RB last season with 5assists and 2 goals? Attacking wise, I prefer White to Yasu who only scored a goal while playing that same position last 2 seasons.. I think Yasu is good man-marking a key player better than White.

Please, let’s give Arteta his Credit, Man did a lot of great jobs with the lads, with their goal scoring abilities, team and squad management(even though he needs to improve more on this), play making of the team, a lot more.

EPL and UCL is the Goal this Season🥂

It just proves that Ben White is the Most Underrated player in our squad. Not bad If he is but it's somehow to paint him like one bad player. I don't know whether it is his demeanor that's deceiving sha

You see that bolded. Nuff said. I don't know whether acknowledging Arteta for what he's done means that he shouldn't be held accountable if he doesn't compete for the league this season.

Hopefully, this season will be exciting and fulfilling for us

iamoyindamola:
Have you gone to court yet
I said what i said

Na here be court

If you talk say you prefer Tomi to Ben White, that's very very understandable.

But to say Ben White was nonsense and that our RHS of attack was weak last season is pure lie.


Lai lai, such misconception no go work for here


Na small small like this player dey take turn scapegoat

BlueRayDick:
Well, that's the beauty of life; We can see the same thing in different perspective

Abi...

iamoyindamola:
White was nonsense compare to tomi if you no like or agree please go to court
Simple!!!!

As usual.
When you have nothing to back it up

RHS side of attack was weak, yet RHS of attack had the highest goal contributions for arsenal last season among all the sides.

Please lord, I want my RHS of attack to be weak like last season and not strong like last two seasons

iamoyindamola:
Saka score goal arteta improve am
Saka lose penalty saka is at fault

I remember this well well against westham

Saka was playing with injuries since we lost to city if his career ended there should we also attribute it to arteta the way owen hagreaves blamed fegruson

You see this thing wey you dey talk like Joke. E be like say you don dey take am serious.

Oya, bring Receipt of person wey talk say na Saka fault say he miss penalty or he was blamed for the draw

BlueRayDick:


Blind loyalist keh? Person wey I no even support his appointment as our coach. I just believe in applauding someone when he surpasses expectation and not throwing him under the bus immediately he takes a mistep

This....

But dem go say we dey worship Arteta and that he's the next best thing after slice bread

Iamoyindamola, you go tell us how our RHS of attack was weak with Ben White who was nonsense when both Odegaard and Saka had their best ever goal contributions in an arsenal shirt


You'll also show us how nonsense White have more goals and more Assists than Tomi, who played RB with both Saka and Odegaard.

iamoyindamola:
So why did your coach buy him?
What position will he play

He bought him same way he bought White and Odegaard and Ramsdale.

And we all hope he'll improve him and give him the environment to shine the way he improved the others too.

And when that happens, Arteta will be given credit

If it doesn't, Arteta should rightly take the stick.

Issa simple sturvs

BlueRayDick:
For some reasons, I want this to happen. Make we sack am, make we come employ person wey go carry us go where we no know.

That time everybody go come calm down.

Lol... If we talk, e go be like say na we be Arteta's blind loyalists

iamoyindamola:
And it affected our right side of attack, saka is just a talented player doing one man mopol job
There are occasion odegaard will have to partner with saka which should have been white

Our RHS attack when Tomi was a RB, what was Saka and Odegaard goal contributions (both goals and assists)?

What was his own goal contributions too?

Make Una no dey make White look like one amateur when even Tomi no get him stats as Rb

iamoyindamola:
Bring out his stats compare it with arsenal players let see how he fare
Just because chelsea was terrible last season
what about when they won UCL, he was unproductive too or his leverkusen days
I no like am too but he is not a bad player

He scored 19 premier league goals in 91 matches. That's an average of 6 goals per season in over 30matches. Worst of it all, he played most as a striker. And e sure me say him assist go worse

Someone that haven't hit double digit in goals as a striker in top club is whom you're making case for? And it's you of all people, you wey dey cast firmino of Liverpool. Even Firmino no get such poverty stats

iamoyindamola:
You were there right??

That's what made the news.
Coupled with the fact he was sent home prematurely.

Dem go send player home from world cup because of ability?

iamoyindamola:
If i am to compare him with tomi for RB
White did nonsense abeg
He's not versatile kankan, even kiwi worse for the LB and it's annoying that is the point i am making
Don't force another position on players that can't adapt to it

This is one misconceptions you guys dey muse me.

White with 2goals and I think 5 assists did nonsense last season compared to Tomi 1 assist and zero goals when he(Tomi) played full season shey?

You guys just don't want to personally see White as RB sha cos you for no dey talk this thing

iamoyindamola:
I am asking what make you think they won't score more with ebening
Don't forget the argument abeg
When i mean lazy i am talking of pressing and marking please

Didn't I answer you?
Are they strikers?
If you can't see the clear answer in that my response then it's not my fault na

2.. Aside from pressing and marking, he's not productive nor highly creative and that's facts. No dey do as if you no know Havertz.

iamoyindamola:
But can/did he bench them?

Yes... 100%

Everyone knows it's the issue he had with the assistant coach that's making him not to get call up and not because of his ability that you're making it seem.

iamoyindamola:
1. What made you think they won't score the same under ebening

So i haven't said it here before that harvetz was chelsea top scorer, sometimes to argue with you can be tiring
2. This same morning i said harvetz is a technical player but lazy

1... Cos under ebening, our goals are concentrated on strikers. Either Laca or Auba.
Under Arteta, it's shared. (And I'm not strictly talking about last season)

2... I answered you that football needs more than technical but lazy players. For Havertz to perform, he'll need to be less lazy and more productive (aside his technicality). If he does such, it's an indictment of Arteta's improvement on him. Issa simple sturvs!!

iamoyindamola:
Yes but on this mandate i stand gidigba
I like him as a cb but that rb position they vex me aje

As long as you say na agenda, no yawa

iamoyindamola:
1. How many years did ebening use with saka and ESR

2. Have told you we got odegaard because he was cheaper even though madisson is epl proven but also injury prone
Please include rice oo because i don't understand why we left caicedo for him

3. As for harvetz, they play same hartevz that was joint top scorer for chelsea last season
They play

1... So you know that they scored more goals for arsenal under Arteta shey?
Is that not improvement..
Do you know if Arteta is not a good coach, there high tendency that Saka and Martinelli will stagnate?

2... Aside from being cheaper, Arsenal and Arteta wanted Odegaard. Moreover, Madison was not injury prone as at when we were linked to him. It was very clear Odegaard was Arteta's first choice and it's the same reason he handed him the captain armband and vice captain after lacazzette. Even if na 50m, everything points that Arteta would still have gotten his man except if Odegaard claims he doesn't want to come and Madrid also didn't want to sell

3... Suddenly, Havertz whom everyone is angry we bought is now Chelsea's highest goalscorer. I didn't know he could get such encomiums from a moniker not named Spy

So as e dey now,

If Havertz flops... It's on Arteta

If Havertz shines... It's because he was once a golden generational talent thus it has nothing to do with Arteta.

You want to have it both ways init??

iamoyindamola:
White way no fit enter england team of maquire,tyrion mings,dunk of this world
Abegi

Make we just agree say na Agenda make you talk this thing

iamoyindamola:
I am sure arteta can't say ESR and saka are his products or he developed them
Saka and ESR have been scoring since ebening days
As for your list because one or people no like them no mean they are bad
Everyone know i no rate rice but he no mean he's a bad player before by tomorrow you go link the success to arteta

Show me the goals Saka and Esr have been scoring during ebening time let's compare with Arteta's own.

If na one or two persons, you think I'll create that list. More than two persons (excluding me) was against Ramsdale, Gabriel, White and Odegaard (at least I can proudly say I was in favour of us buying him instead of Madison but that doesn't mean I would troll those who did).

And yeah, na only you no rate Rice, so it'll be petty of me to include him if he shines but if someone like Havertz turn world class here, do you think the credit won't go to Arteta?...

...After how everyone here was against his signing bar Spy and maybe Mo.stob?


NB: I didn't say they're bad, but as at signing them, they aren't upto the class players they are today reason why most of us didn't want them

Na only here I dey read say White no be good player.

Issorait!!!!

iamoyindamola:
So having our own personal choice means the players he got were bad
Ramsdale played for 3 clubs and all relegated plus his price over too much for such calibre
Bros arteta didn't sign gabu
Xhaka was okay when wengay signed him what are you talking about
We had saliba on loan only for us to blow 50m on white, till date i think it's still a stupid deal
Mind you if we are talking of good arsenal players remove white abeg

Odegaard: we got odegaard cos of his price, Maddison was expensive but I am glad we did because odegaard is the boss
zinny: no one here hate zinny we only ask him to stay on his lane
I was only mocking him as a cry cry baby, how does that mean he's not a good player
Nawa oo

You didn't add awilo and viera, i am wondering why

So arteta improve saka, martinelli they play, he should also improve atleast one of the academy players na

All i know is we owe ebening gratitude for ESR and saka without him saka would have gone to another club
I am glad ebening came before him for this reason

Arteta signed Gabriel. It's facts

You're just buttressing my point with a dose of Amala by the side. The Ramsdale, Odegaard and Xhaka, most of us wouldn't want them here if given the chance. If we later claim after 2yrs or so that these assemblage of players are good enough, then we need to credit the manager for that too. It's an easy something that doesn't need Amala turning.

Zinny no suppose deh the list because it's only you I felt was not really keen on his signing.(that's why it's in bracket, just a little dig )

As for awilo and Viera, no be everybody wey person sign must turn star. Moreover, there's still chance for Veira


Martinelli and Saka improved under him and that's facts. At least, Saka goalscoring will tell you that.
But you see this improvement of our play, one day I go break am down for here


Lastly, nobody said they shouldn't credit ebening esp for Saka, Martinelli and Esr but the Koko of the matter is that the core of the players are Arteta's players not ebening and if you feel they're ripe to compete for the league, then at least acknowledge Arteta. Simples!!!

iamoyindamola:
Which players?
Oya mention them

Ramsdale.... Almost all of us

White... Almost all of us

Odegaard... Some sections of the fans here didn't want him after his loan

Tomi... Almost all were undecided. No excitement

Xhaka... We all wanted him gone even if it's free.

Gabriel... Most of us here weren't keen on his signing.

(Should I add also Zinny because of you? )

That's like 5 core players who raised their games to high levels all thanks to Arteta (with Xhaka now gone on a high)


I don't want to even talk about the improvement of other players we even love like Saka and Martinelli

iamoyindamola:
Same problem with Felix
These players won't survive modern day football even pep don't buy them
If you can't press you are useless

And I don't like such players ehn except of course you're too good to mask up your deficiencies

iamoyindamola:
Same coach that continues making silly decisions that affect the team

Lol, what of the good decisions that affects the team?
That one is not on Arteta shebi?

The way Una dey praise players while ignoring the coach's impact, one will think Arteta came and met these players on ground. That's what I find surprising with the takes.

What's even more surprising is the fact that most of these players y'all called very good players is in fact players we all labelled not good enough when signed.

iamoyindamola:
Havertz is actually a very technical player but if you are lazy in football
All your attributes disappear

He needs to man up oo.
Unfortunately, modern football doesn't have time and space for lazy players

ObaIgwe1:
When the rumor of us getting Kai started, I thought it was a bad joke being promoted by Chelsea fans till the reality set in. The question is can anything good come out of Nassareth? Well Jesus came from there. But what good thing can come from Kai from all we have seen him done at Chelsea? Well miracle no dey tire Baba God.

I have decided to give him and Arteta the benefits of the doubt till they both convince me that we don't have another Pepe case at hand... Maybe there is something about him good managers are seeing that we are not seeing. Remember even Carlo Ancelotti (One of the few managers I respect) was also interested in him but walked away cos of the price tag on him..

Fingers crossed. But I pray he cook for the sake of my dear club...Arsenal.

Lol... Same here
Na just the benefit of doubt I dey give Arteta sha and for the sake of arsenal

Hopefully, he'll cook. He has my support as an arsenal player

ObaIgwe1:
Honestly we have the best squad at the moment, unfortunately I cannot say the same about our manager... Though I believe Arteta is fast improving but like I said earlier on this thread, I cannot rate him better than Pep and Klopp.

The community shield should give us an idea of how competitive we will be this season.

Klopp and Pep are certainly the top two coaches in the league no doubt.

It's good how our team are being shaped and also they depth and versatility we have. It will be interesting to see how Arteta utilises all of them effectively this season.

I just hope we won't have a stagnant first 11 like last season. I just hope he rotates more, especially in midfield and attack

mostob:
I always like to give players benefit of doubt at times..with valid reasons though.

I was against Jorginho because he is not exactly a DM. Man is just like a DLP which means he was not a suitable cover for Partey.


As for Havertz, I first heard of him when he was at Bayer. His entire travail at Chelsea might be due to coaching issue and position. Arteta has been eyeing him since January.

We wait.

Make we dey see sha. That him invisible talent must showcase by force