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Android17:
I had to make sure it was you many times before responding.

Just read what you wrote again then think deeply.

I highlighted the part that shows you are rushing to respond without understanding what is being discussed.

Lol... You're just evading the question sha. You're so smart with that and it was expected

A goal gave you a platform to win a game through Penalties.

Whether the team uses that platform judiciously or not is another discourse entirely.

As long as that goal provides that platform, It's never ever inconsequential.

Maybe the word "inconsequential" have a new meaning that I'm oblivious to

daveP:
Hi Guys! Been forever.


Are y'all ready for the new formation MA is bringing to town?

Longest time here.

Welcome back 😉🙂

mostob:
Nice analysis. As for that number 3, our game plan was not to press individually but to block the passing lanes from their defence. In short, our pressing was more about positioning and shadow-marking. I think Havertz did his job perfectly.

Hmmm....
Blocking passing lanes and shadow marking?

Well, lemme just believe that.

FakeNEWSevryday:
I think his position was that @ the end of the day, Arsenal won the trophy🏆
Look at Kane he has scored hundreds of goals without winning any trophy but Foden has not scored half of his goals but had trophies, so Kane's goals is inconsequential (less important) to the trophies foden had won.

Kane's goals can never be inconsequential whether they won trophies or not but that's another discourse entirely.

For the game on Sunday, The game went to penalties which was courtesy of Palmer's goal.

Remember, Without that goal, there would be no penalties.

When we start taking things one step at a time, we'll always see the importance of things.

Man city losing is due to Kdb and Rodri fvcking up when it matters, it doesn't affect Palmer's goal in any way at all.

OVA200:
Person go dey yarn rubbish with full chest.

How can a goal that push the team to penalty be inconsequential?

Without palmer's goal arsenal win in the 90 minutes.

Penalty is different reality.

Facts!!

Him no hold Kdb and Rodri for missing Penalties, na Palmer goal wey give them opportunity to take those PKs naim be inconsequential

Leyqute:
You want hook am for neck. Android no go gree.

I guess Son's goal in this game is inconsequential because Tottenham lost the match.

Or let's put it this way, the Man city 4 goals they scored, all was Inconsequential

MorataFC:
🤣🤣🤣
Andr.oid17 Oya answer the question
Is Mbappe hat trick also inconsequential?

Omorr, that situation Taya me.
Imagine calling that hat trick inconsequential coming from 2 goals down.

Omorr!!

Android17:
Did City win?

I asked a question

A goal that determines one's team to participate in penalties, how is it inconsequential?

When you answer that, we can now go to the next stage whether city won it or not.

Android17:
For a goal to be consequential it means it affected the outcome of the game in the scorer's side.

Did Palmer's goal affect the outcome of the game in City's favour?

I do respect your views most times cos you've a way of giving very valid points but Omorr you see this bolded..... Lai lai!!!

Anywhere you read that stuff or anything that made you believe that hogwash is what I don't understand.

A goal that made both teams play Penalties to decide the winner is what you termed INCONSEQUENTIAL because his team lost on penalties?

How can a goal be Inconsequential when it's the main decider for penalty shootout?

Imagine someone calling Mbappe WC final hat trick inconsequential France eventually lost out on penalties?

Do you know how light Inconsequential means for you to demean Palmer's goal to such extent?

Spy360:
We now have a very good squad that is expected go far in every competition. There will be over 50games to play. One keeper can focus on cups while the other on PL. Then when injury or red card happens, or when any of them starts to misbehave like Ramsdale last season, no problems.

If you look at my quote well, you'll notice I'm not against two good GKs but I'm just interested to see how long Raya or Ramsdale would want to be comfortable with being a second choice.

Here are my reasons why GK second choice always suffer esp if you're in a top club

1. GK can play upto 100 games a season and the issue of a GK being fatigued will never crop up

2. Most GK hardly have injury. Like I said previously, a GK can go even up to 5yrs without having one Injury.

3. No GK that's keeping in a top club would want to share any duties when UCL is involved. Ramsdale for example would want to showcase his talent in Europe as well as EPL. In fact, I can even go further to say, Most top teams never use two different GK for UCL and league. The only team that did it was Barca and it was only one season, the next season Bravo was sold cos Ter Stegen complained that he wasn't comfortable with Keeping only in the league

4.. Both Raya and Ramsdale are second/third choice GKs respectively in their country and they'll need consistent performances in league to maintain hope that they can be acknowledged. Sitting on the bench would certainly do no justice to that.

What's even surprising is that even Pep that's known for stocking quality known players in every position didn't do that in Gk area.

Well, lemme see how it'll play out but my guess is that if Raya eventually comes, Ramsdale time-up at arsenal might be nearer than we think

Spy360:
Na when injury happen you go know. Two is always better than one.

Injury hardly happens to Keepers.

Like I said, they're are a lot different from Outfield players

My Thoughts On Yesterday's Game

1.. Arteta Learnt His Lesson From Last Season:
It's good to see Arteta didn't go Gung-ho or toe-to-toe against this Man city side as against last season where we were looking to take the game to them and suffered severely for it. Yesterday, we were very very conservative and looking to hit them on the break while our defence was rock solid. The pivot of Rice and Partey were good in intercepting and tackling in midfield, which made Man city got restricted to few clear cut chances in the first half especially while we were able to create quality chances of our own.
Hopefully, he sticks to this pragmatic approach when we're facing Man city home or away this season.

2. Ramsdale:
He was really exceptional ystdy as he made three outstanding saves in the second half to keep hope alive in the game. Amazingly stopped a penalty too for that matter(back to back matches). Arteta said they've been working on him in catching penalties and so far, it's been proving to be yielding result.
......But, I was not really impressed with his distribution ystdy especially when he had to go long. Needlessly gave the balls away to Man city which mostly piled the pressure on us. I'm one of the believer of him being a good ball distributor and I just hope ystdy Is just an offday for him in that aspect. But aside that, a really great game from him.

3. Havertz:
Center forward is the only place I see him as less of a liability in this arsenal's setup even though I was displeased seeing him start over more credible regulars (Trossard or Nketiah).
I was not really impressed with his game ystdy as his off the ball duties was evident. Gave Man city defenders time and space on the ball to effectively build out from the back which piled the pressure on us most times. Odegaard sometimes have to start the pressing and on few occasions motioned for him to press. (Only on one situation that he really pressed and we won the ball to kick-start a quick attack)
His on the ball duties was just good in phases. Sometimes, it's head scratching as he would lose the ball on any slight pressure, on a very few times he'll hold the ball well and give a recycled pass. Even his misses were in phases also (one good and one bad)

4. Trossard is too good for the bench:
He's the only one with X factor, most times when all hope are lost. Right from last season, he's the only one who's trying to force a goal most times when we're trailing and be did same ystdy. I believe another person in his position would have been looking to cross that ball into the box instead of taking a shot when there's a space for goalbound shot. Statistically, the team tends to score more goals with him as a CF whenever he starts.
This brings me to Martinelli. I noticed he hardly takes all these routine curling shots at the edge of the box most wingers are known for (eg Palmer's goal) and the few times he'll try it, it's never accurate. My hope is that he work on this cos that can mostly be the difference between drawing and winning or losing and winning.

5. I'm hoping that ESR sees more game time and opportunities this season and Kudos to our defensive line, they really marshalled Man City's attack well prior to the introduction of Kdb.

Great game, great win. Nice 🏆🏆🏆
Unto the new season and unto Forest

COYG!!!

Android17:
I realized I am chatting with someone who has problems with comprehension.

If a goal was consequential why did City still lose the game? Yea. You don't know what it means for something to be inconsequential.

Read. Digest. Reply.

Till then, not wasting my time trying to educate you.

You go need explain that bolded sha.

Are you saying Palmer's goal was inconsequential because we equalised and eventually won through Penalties?

iamoyindamola:
Leno, Martinez and bravo all went to lower clubs compare to the clubs they left which are not top clubs

... Except Bravo tho who went to Man city.

But you're making my point. No good keeper would want to stay as second choice when he can easily get first choice as a number 1 in another club.

If Raya replaces Ramsdale this season (for example), I doubt Ramsdale (with the pedigree he has acquired in EPL) would want to sit and compete, instead he'll look for another club where he'll be guaranteed number 1 spot even if it's a lower club.


GKs competing for one spot is a whole lot different from Outfield players competing for one spot

iamoyindamola:
None of these examples of keepers you listed were great na
Ter stegen is good but was second choice to neuer
Leno own worse he was never considered ahead of trapp
Bravo is a clown at best
No body knows Martinez until after our fa cup triumph
My conclusion these keepers are good only Ter stegen was above average the rest were average at their best

Lol, I was Specific na.. I wasn't talking about their countries, so the issue of Neuer or Trapp shouldn't have come up

I said Ter Stegen/Bravo for Barca..
Ter Stegen was a very highly rated GK (I think from Leverkusen) when Barca bought him even though they had a very very good number 1 in Bravo.

Same thing with Leno/Martinez, as well as Leno/Ramsdale for Arsenal

And when I mean great, I simply meant that both Keepers are good enough to be number one in any top club.

It's just like Liverpool buying Ederson. Allison would never agree to be benched one bit. Once he does gets benched, the next thing is to look for another club

mostob:
He should kukuma stay put after signing for Forest since his first game will be at the Emirates. Make he no waste tfare

True talk oo.

After match, make him just join their team bus dey enter Forest with them

iamoyindamola:
Yes I also read Raya is in Colney already and you are right about turner
Those America deals were to improve our franchise no be say we like America players if you add 2 of em together them no reach 15m that we buy them

But having Two great Keepers sha (in Raya and Ramsdale), I no know how e wan take work.

It couldn't work with Ter Stegen/Bravo for Barca
It couldn't work for Leno/Martinez for Arsenal.

I'm still looking for clubs that have two great Keepers and It worked for them in keeping both happy.

It'll be interesting to see how Arteta manages them

TeslaFC:
Those of us who clamored for Bruno after having to deal with Jesse Lingard as our creative outlet pre-Bruno rate him very high.

We’ve always known he’s a top top midfielder but these stats are mind-blowing.

I think averagely, it's only Man u fans that rate him highly (and even some people here still have doubts).

My point is not about Man u fans tho, My point is about Rival fans rating him high in the same breath they're rating Kdb (World class Midfielder things.

Trevor012:
Ask that same Jo.dera if he will exchange Odeggard for Fraudnandes right now he will laugh at you.

Even the Odegaard sef, there's high tendency that if he'd gone to Man u as at that 2020(same time Bruno came here), he wouldn't have been heralded the way he is now.

If they'd given you Odegaard in 2020, I doubt you would still want him now

iamoyindamola:
Is this picture real

E fit be.
I read that Turner is already on his way to Forest and with the way our Social media handle dey delay to do things, then there might be some truth in it

iamoyindamola:
Them get nzunu and Micheal jackson na why them no go dream

iamoyindamola:
Kill joy person no fit dream in peace again

Dem too dey dream without putting things into perspective.

Na so Hens.ben talk say if dem get Enzo for January, say dem go finish top4 abi second.

Now we don dey hear say na Caicedo be the only key wey go both free Enzo and make Chelsea top everybody


Anyways, dreams are free

TeslaFC:
Look at the stats and prior comment. Very poor output from our attacking trio.

No matter how most of us might want to paint it but the truth is that Bruno Is way underrated than how he normally should be rated

If he was playing for the top two clubs since his arrival in EPL (Man city or Liverpool), I'm sure he might be named alongside Kdb by now. The only big reason why he's not being rated very very highly (as one of the best midfielders in the world) is because he's in Man u.

Kantebets:
with pochettino we are better.Bleep league position

You make noise pass like this beginning of last season only to disappear later.
E sure me say you go still disappear again, then reappear beginning of next season with another round of noise and cruise.

Sha, na your thread you, it's your right to make all the whole cruise and noise👍👍

I think say dem talk say we buy Havertz to play Midfield??

So Nketiah dey, Trossard dey(na this one pain me pass), dem no use dem, Na Havertz him go use

Tohh!!

Today is the Curtain raiser for the EPL games!!

Perusing the thread ystdy, I saw where Roland dropped a link about England re-opening the alleged rape case of Partey.

If it's that serious, then it means we might not see Partey start today. Only God knows how that our Midfield combo will be.

We've won our last 5 community shield (dating back to 2005) beating both Manchester clubs, Liverpool and Chelsea in the process. I just hope we continue the good run of form!!

Time to start Watching my boys again! It's been long.

COYG!!!!!

BlueRayDick:
Who blamed saka here?

Leave oyindamola make him dey talk wetin him no know.

I ask am make him provide receipts that day but him pretend as if him no see am, yet everytime he'll always be saying "that's how we blamed Saka for the penalty miss".

Me sef, I don dey "moya lookaway" anytime him just drop that quote

mostob:
This is not hasty conclusion o. One thing about EPL is tactic no dey last long. You get? By the time Dem target Onana, man go dey drink beer the way fish dey drink water ni. I doubt he would even last two seasons in EPL.

The good thing about time is that it'll reveal all things. Make we just deh patient

iamoyindamola:
No they turn amala
Is Haller a good CF? Yes he's
So losing pk makes him a flop, no wonder you guys were blaming saka too😂

I say we go see that good CF this season na.

Simples!!

iamoyindamola:
Lmao
Didn't your arteta bottle same league
What a joke

You no trust your Haller again?

ChristoBam:
If na we sign Ederson too. It'd be the same useless trolling while wanking to your DDG that no one wants.

Only fanbase that's similar to ours in this aspect is Arsenal. Deluded lots were also trolling and rooting against their team because of a past-it Ozil

Na wa oo.

We deh our own still dey receive stray bullets for this Una matter?

iamoyindamola:
Same you called him good when I asked last season
Omo

I did?
No be the same Haller and Scammaca I no rate wey West ham sign them but you claimed otherwise while bringing West ham for always killing strikers

Make I check my receipts to see our basis of argument sef


Modified: I just saw my receipts now. Oya, you win for this one.

We go still dey wait for Haller sha. If na you, I know say you for drag me as Haller take bottle the league for Dortmund when he missed that crucial penalty. But we move!!


Make we see your Haller this season