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Realtord43:
Are you now downplaying transfer fee?
will a average player command same fee with a world class player?

Lol... Wow!

I just want to believe this is a rhetorical question sha!

Lemme just believe it is

Realtord43:
Do you believe Arsenal will dish out 70m to buy a average player from ligue 1?

Lol... For you to still Judge a player through transfer fees in this present age and time is surprising.

No wonder the only way you could defend your Hazard ystdy is through his transfer fee to Madrid.

afrodoc:
Hahaha. That would start another round Mortal Kombat. I wouldn't have said anything if you had not talked. I just wanted to clear your mind.

Lol...

I understand boss

afrodoc:
With some it might be due to misconception, but we have some wicked people in our midst as well

We suppose need courier services oo, so that we go know who get that package

Realtord43:
if saka is not average then Nik pepe is a top player when he was playing in france, b4 arsenal sign him

If that's your personal opinion, then who am I to hold it against you.

We're talking about a general consensus (opinion) here and almost everyone except you will agree that Saka is not average!!

You can still be that Wikipedia-analysts who judge footballers by only Numbers!!

It's your choice bro

WhoDeyHause:
Don't mind him bro. Assnal will win their second champions league next season.

Wahala!!!!

mostob:
We all get different taste sha

Have you seen the leaked 3rd kit?

afrodoc:
Your case is different. There are people here who are pro-DDG just because people they have real and imaginary beef with are anti-DDG. Some are defending DDG because 1 or 2 of the posters criticizing DDG criticized their own favourite players. It really does not have much to do with understanding the role of a ball playing GK or not.

Ohh... And all this while I thought it's just due to misconceptions about the GK thingy

Lemme disembark then

Englishisamust:
Still trophyless .whether you buy ball distribution keeper or ball playing goal keeper or ball dribble goal keeper. Unaa still dey trophyless . May we not labour in vain like arsenal

Lol... It's your right to troll. Na free world

pkasso:
Sterling's case is an interesting one because he has the numbers and trophies to back up that claim. Years from now, you go see kids dey argue say Sterling na one of the GOATS of his generation based on his stats. Na us wey watch am go dey tell dem say the guy no great like that. Sterling is just a good player who was part of a great team. He has never and will never be the main man on any top team. Na why I dey laugh when Chelsea sign am. This guy no fit drag teams to titles.

Football is now internet-first and Statistics before actually judging a player so I won't be surprised if 10yrs from now, Sterling would be termed Goat. Plus he's British, so they might even overhype him ontop.

That's why it's doing me somehow if a good player is talked down or not really acknowledged because of he doesn't have that statistics to back him up. There's big difference between watching someone live and just going to Wikipedia to look at stats in order to judge a player. Na one of the reasons I tackle Real.tord ystdy sha


And as for the bolded, it's true. He's always part of a main team and can never be a main man. And it's very very difficult to be world class if you're not a main man (at least in your department)

Expert17:
Receipts full ground 🤣🤣

What most don't know is that preventing shooting opportunities is far far better than saving shots. And you can only stop opponents via claiming of crosses, playing out from the back, keeping possession of the ball, commanding your area etc....

That's why the fraud - De Gea will always be ranked in top 5 for shot saved every season.

Lol... Actually, most people don't know the importance of ball playing GK. I won't lie, I was guilty of that before we bought Ramsdale but Omorr, once Ramsdale is distributing ball and how it aids us to maintain possession and do quick transitioning, that's when I really appreciated the value of a true ball playing GK. Aside that, De Gea lacks many other things too that he covers with just Saves.

The thing is that until "that" GK comes and they experience it, that's when most people here that are Pro-De gea will really appreciate what most of you are saying from beginning. Even I have to experience it to know how important it is.

Just keep on doing your good work sha, nothing do you

Expert17:
With all the risky moves and passes Ederson makes at Man City I wonder how many errors leading to goals he has.

Onana with 0 errors leading to goals, despite his high risk style our shy Spanish GK always ahead in errors ...odogwu

Lol, how you take dey bring rebuttal receipts to defend your case against any talk/concern people drop here?
And sharp sharp for that matter as if you don dey wait to present am already


I dey feel you sha!

pkasso:
Make una dey calm down. Saka never reach WC levels. Even Vinicius sef. Consistency + multiple exceptional performances at the highest level is what makes you WC. IMO, once you are world-class, you will always be world-class. Your form and performances may diminish but that tag is permanent. It's a recognition of what you've done or achieved.

By the way, is Sterling world-class? E get why I dey ask

Lol... True words.
World class bar is high and Obvious. It shouldn't be reduced to something ordinary where any good player can attain.

As for the bolded, definitely No!!

Any player who have uncertainty over him on whether he's a good player or not is certainly isn't world class. In fact, Sterling was more heralded in Liverpool than Man City even though he posted more numbers in the latter.

Ironic, Yeah, but that should tell you all you need to know

MorataFC:
You too sef dey fall hands, how can you say Saka is above average?
Saka is a world-class player, the only winger that I rated ahead of him for now, is Vinici Junior.

Lol... I still feel he's a top player but not World class yet but he's nearing that level. Even Vini, I still don't rate him as World class

He(they) obviously needs that numbers consistently to reach that World class levels

Realtord43:
you are just a distraction.

He's no distractions...
He's right. Like i showed you what you're asking through Ratings, explanations and examples.

How you want make I do am again.?


Okay back to Saka.

Please, Name me your Top 10 best clubs in the world (just your personal Top 10).

I'm getting somewhere with the question..

Realtord43:


Jodera, stop playing with words, ur defination for world class and top player is the same. U jst interswitch words for both.
excellent and world class are same!

so you see, it hard to differentiate btw top player and world class player. Stop spinning it for SAKA

Someone who consistently have 75/100 and someone who consistently have 95/100 are they the same level?

Kilishihunter:
Na why we dey talk say you dey use heavenly race play as you just dey make your guy misyarn at some points, Only similarity between Messi and hazard I might agree on is similar play styles, hugging the wing as advanced playmakers, superb dribblers and playmakers but the numbers, output, big game performances, level of goal scoring and magic is what won't makes the "slightly behind" claim laughable, Only ronaldo was in messi's orbit , Hazard na dem Neymar set back then

Lol... The guy just misyarn. Him think say him fit smuggle that thing inside make we no notice

Realtord43:

You now trolling.
be honest and define a top player and a average player.

I've explained top player and average player for you na

Average player is an inconsistent or basic player's performance.

Top player is a player who produces excellent performance on a consistent level

World class players are players who produces World class performances on a consistent level

The total span across 3years!!

Realtord43:
jodera, who a top player and average player?

Saka is a top player according to general consensus

Hazard is an average player according to you

Kilishihunter:
Chai be like dem don also send you go kirikiri but make I just quip before antispam release you
Why bringing in hazard is setting him up is stating he was not just behind but slightly behind messi, Of course almost everyone knows how much of a force hazard was both for you guys and internationally before his late career woes, Afterall it's what even earned him his big money move to vardrid to probably win the ballon d'or but hazard was never slightly behind messi at any point in time, that accolade was for ronaldo or even vice versa for Messi sometimes

Na only Messi and Ronaldo dey league on their own.

It's a very very big blasphemy to place Hazard and Messi side by side sef how much more claiming he's slightly behind him for 3 seasons in a row

No wonder him just deh beat around bush when asked to backup his claims

Realtord43:
Hey, we are not doing saka and hazard comparism here. Pls just stink to saka been average.

Lol... Why e dey Shame you to defend your legend with Numbers (Same numbers you brought as rules oo).

At least, I fit defend Saka because I was honest enough to claim he's not World class (but a top player)

Oya, You prove that Hazard is world class and slightly behind Messi with Numbers?

Realtord43:
So, has Saka post 20 numbers in a season not be rated AVERAGE?

Forget hazard yet.

Bro, did I ever claim Saka was World class?

I said Saka is as average as prime Hazard.

If you think Saka is not average as prime Hazard and that Hazard is world class, then bring Numbers!!

popizaino:
Only Messi and Ronaldo were better off than Hazard at Chelsea. If you like take centuries to laugh,it doesn’t change that fact above.

Everyone knows me I respect Hazard's play at Chelsea. Anybody who watched hazard consistently will know that Hazard was one of the best players in the world. Person no need to ask for Numbers to tell you how great Hazard was.

But if person wan come use definition of Numbers to malign any good player, Make him just know say Hazard dey that soup too.

Most people just jump on stats nowadays to Judge players without actually watching the players play.

Realtord43:
Longetivity. Will saka maintain or improve on his numbers at a span period?
this is what wil determine his career!

How many Longevity did Haaland have In top leagues?
Abi this one too no be world class?

Realtord43:
Minus assists. For a winger, how many numbers does a winger need to post for seasons to be rated?

You yourself said world class players are few.
You called , Mbappe, Neymar, Salah and mostly strikers (I believe it's present crop of active players you're emphasing on).

So from look of things, World class wingers ought to drop 20+ league goals CONSISTENTLY.

So yeah, according to your logic of Numbers And Consistency... Does Hazard have the numbers like those wingers?

If yes, bring his numbers!!!

Unlimited22:
Jod.era good afternoon sir.


You're a mad man sir.


See as you hold person child for blokos.

Lol... Na just him logic we dey follow oo

Realtord43:
Well be not upto 3 seasons, but there a time Hazard was behind MESSI in performance rating.

Well, well, Well.

Hours ago, you don't believe in ratings but only numbers. Enter Hazard, you now believe in performance rating shebi?

So all the numbers you're maligning Saka for not having, you can't even use that same numbers to make a case for Hazard shebi?

So according to your logic, what's the difference between Saka and Hazard?

Realtord43:
hazard numbers were consistent at his peak.

14-16 league goals on a average? that's his peak

This was someone who was slightly behind Messi shebi?

Na this kind player you dey call exceptional and World class?

Realtord43:
Pls dont do this, using Saka 3 seasons to equate hazard over 6 seasons peak.

Why won't I?

You claimed Hazard was Slightly behind Messi for 3 straight seasonz at least. Prove it with Numbers na!!!

Unless you prove that Hazard was Slightly behind Messi for 3 straight seasonz or you tender an apology for that gaffe, then we might have an understanding

Realtord43:
Hazard was bought with 150m

show me a average player that has such market value?

Antony was bought for?

You see how you're beating the bush when e reach Hazard turn? You can defend Mbappe, Haaland and if I even bring C Ronaldo, you go defend am with numbers.

But for hazard, for Numbers don disappear. Now na transfer fees, how much he earns, how many man of match, and bla bla bla.

Your simple logic of NUMBERS AND CONSISTENCY flew over the window

Realtord43:
Let agreed on SAKA First

If Saka is average as prime Hazard, then yes I agree.

If you disagree, bring numbers that prime Hazard is slightly behind Messi for 3 seasons in a row

Realtord43:
So you have agreed that SAKA is stil average?

If only you agree that Hazard was average here cos their league numbers per season is similar.

Or else, bring Hazard numbers that's slightly behind Messi na