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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 1:12pm On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
hazard had a great peak, his man of the match Award was only behind MESSI.

pls let stay true to actual point, SAKA
Oga, na numbers I need no be This bolded you dey talk. Na numbers you dey use malign Saka and na wetin you use claim say Haaland and Mbappe na World class.

Bring that Numbers wey Messi take pass Hazard slightly for 3 seasons in a row.

I don tell you say we don finish Saka matter.

1.. He doesn't have numbers
2... Hazard is exceptional because he had numbers

Oya bring Hazard numbers wey make am slightly behind Messi for 3 seasons in a row
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 1:00pm On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
Let not digress pls, focus is still SAKA
We don finish with Saka oo.
We must digress.

You must show us that numbers wey Hazard get slightly behind Messi for 3 seasons in a row.

Ahhh... You wey dey shout numbers numbers like say na you invent Abacus.

You must show us oo grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:57pm On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
Are we now towing the part of HAZARD or you want to deviate from SAKA.
We are talking SAKA
Oga, I brought hazards number to show that even when you people are hyping him here at Chelsea, his numbers wasn't that great yet he's been acknowledged as a great player. So why can't Saka be acknowledged as a great player too.

But you brought a claim that Hazard was Slightly behind Messi. Not just one nor 2 seasons. Not even 3 seasons but more than 3 seasons in a row!!

Omorr, you must show us ooo grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:48pm On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord I'll need both goals and assists of Hazard numbers being slightly behind Messi 3 seasons in a row

(You see that "more than" wey you put, I dash you that one. Na just the 3 seasons in a row I only need)


I go like learn new things today!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:44pm On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
you have brought Mbappe, Haaland and now Hazard, just to fit saka.

these are just goals, what abt assists?
Hazard was slightly behind Messi in more than 3 season in a row. Hope you know what it mean to be only behind MESSI?

HAZARD was exceptional for vast period of time.
SAKA hasn't had great peak of form to be rated above AVERAGE.
I didn't bring Mbappe and Haaland because they are way above Saka. I've already admitted Saka is a top player while Mbappe and Haaland are World class hence for now, the duo no be Saka Mates!!

As for the bolded, can you show me the 3 seasons in a row Hazard was SLIGHTLY behind Messi?

I'll be patently waiting
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:08pm On Jul 03, 2023
Hazard league numbers (goals) at Lille

0, 4, 5, 7, 20

Hazard league numbers(goals) at Chelsea

9, 14, 14, 4, 16, 12, 16.

Yet you'll claim these are world class numbers.

Realtord, if you can accept that Hazard was really an average average player at Chelsea and Lille, then we'll have an understanding
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:01pm On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
SAKA numba are still average from the past 3 seasons.

were would you now place a player with average numbers?
Average numbers?

Maybe I don't understand your own meaning of average.

If you Accept that Hazard was Average both at Chelsea and Lille, then maybe I'll accept your definition of Saka been average
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:55am On Jul 03, 2023
BlueAngel444:
just agree you and drew were being st...upid

Ballzproblem said he wanted Madueke to add goals and assists to his game, I agreed, Madueke is good, "it's that end product that makes him not better than Saka." This is what you highlighted claiming I was comparing them.

So it's bad to wish my winger has end product, or u guys just want to be mad.

Someone then said Saka is average because if u had sense to understand my post dem for no dey drag Saka.
As usual, when been caught pants down, the next thing is insult.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:27am On Jul 03, 2023
BlueAngel444:
stop being foo...oolish and mixing up who you are discussing with

You jumped on my post foo..olishly and you can't confidently say Saka dribbles better than Kvara, you're making noise laughing like a clown.

Is it me that mention number of seasons or what not
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:20am On Jul 03, 2023
popizaino:
😂😂😂😂

Your list is a joke. Even Martinelli will slap for saying he is better than Saka.
Lol...
Even Kvara wey just shine one season don pass Saka for Ranking grin

Some people and sentiments eh grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:19am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
Sir, hope you know saka is still a young lad?

if you see saka as world class at this stage of his career then Saka has nothing to play for or improve on!
Oga where are you getting this logic from bikonu?

Ronaldo was already World class as at 2008.
Can you compare the Ronaldo of Madrid to the Ronaldo of Man u?

Was there no vast improvement?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:15am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
all this words are invested by fans to rate their favorite.

calling a player average doesn't mean is not good or a top player, the real difference between average and world class is your CONSISTENCE.

A Average player can give 2 good season top performance and will go DIP next season, most are just on and off with their form but world class is consistent, improving every season on their numbers.

SAKA is categories in the average class.
In all aspects of life that requires results, there's always rating and grading else how would you measure or qualify someone's success.
Your school makes use of grading/rank/rating
Your place of work make use of grading/rank/rating
Even buying in online stores or sort, they'll still require you to give them rating about your experience with them.

But you think a whole Football shouldn't have ratings and that it's fans that just makes it up.?

Even balon dor and club ranking should should give you a clue but No, ... You feel Football should be an extremity (Average and World class only)

Do you know what's called average?
Anything that requires categorization, Average itself is a poor quality
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:22am On Jul 03, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Going by all these beer parlor analysis
It's safe to call hidden part time world class player
You even try if you said part time.

According to Realtord

1. He doesn't have the longevity (I don't think he reached 10yrs).

2. He doesn't have the numbers too(have that guy scored up to 20 league goal sef, how much more consistently). Let's don't even talk about his UCL goals.

But I'm certain if you call Hazard average during his time at Chelsea, he'll almost use 2by2 ontop your head grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:19am On Jul 03, 2023
Shegzdave:
Just negodu that one... Martinelli will slap that dude for saying that grin
That's the first time I know/remember I've ever called someone's post gibberish/nonsense.

If there was a way I could unread that post I swear I for do am. Omorr e weak me grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:40am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
Still not above been rated average.
in a ranking from 1-100.

50-59 is average players

60-69 is good players

70-80 is Top players

90-100 is world class players


Even normal school results have gradings sef.

Na players you wan come use extremities to grade dem(ie It's either the player is World class or he's average — no in betweens)


Dey play Sir
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:33am On Jul 03, 2023
andrewbaba44:
You don hold am for prick

Even hazard wasn’t consistent for 10 seasons

So maybe hazard was never world class too

Agenda don carry my guy enter bush grin
Lol...
The way he talked about 10years, you'll think say na small thing grin

He forgot these players play an average of at least 50 matches a year.(with a frequency of at least every 7 days to perform consistently)

Imagine waiting to play at least 500 Matches CONSISTENTLY to prove you're world class grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:02am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
If he is not average nor world class, then were do we now RATE(exact word) Saka?
He is a Top player.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:03am On Jul 03, 2023
PDPGuy:
The ‘rule’ is only a permitted trial in the lower leagues of Italy, and Sweden. A possibly full adoption by IFAB won’t take effect till next summer
if this rule had been in place since, dem Ronaldo and Mbappe for don get more goals.

Moreover, this might discourage teams from playing very highline.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:57am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
haaland numbers at molde is cracy, same dortmund and now at city. That consistency. Improvement every season.

SAKA need numba and xpecialy ucl numbers at the big stage and trophies.
Jod.era, SAKA need to improve on is numbers this season
Haaland Is World class and the numbers are backing him up... Everybody knows that. He doesn't needs 5-10 seasons to prove he's world-class to anyone..
His Molde and Salzburg stints are just potential, nobody uses such to judge how World class he is cos that leagues are inferior, so don't bring that here at all.
The main Koko was his move to Dortmund and Man city and how he posted such numbers. At least 3 years/seasons is enough to prove that you're no fluke and that's what Haaland did

If I claimed Saka is world class, your claim for numbers would have been validated but No, he's not, so I don't know why you're shouting "Numbers numbers"

But Like I said, Saka is above average and not very very average like you posited.

His last 3 seasons of very good performance confirms that.

I don't know when the opposite of World class turns to very very average
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:47am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
if you want to use Mbappe and Haaland first few seasons to equate SAKA performance in the last 3season wil do SAKA no good. Saka hasn't done spectacular much compare to what Mbappe and Haaland did in their first few season, Mbappe at monaco won the ligue with his strilling performance, world cup with france that stunned the world, cups success with psg with terrific numbers even in the ucl.
So, this is another logic and definition again.

You've brought in team's trophies as another pointer.

You see why I said you're not consistent?

From.... He needs 5-10yrs of consistencies, you shifted to, he needs numbers, now you shifted to, he needs team trophies


Maybe next will be he needs to beast WC final
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:28am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
Don't just go there pls. We all know how Mbappe started at monaco and even currently at psg. Saka havnt done nothing close to what Mbappe did in 3yrs.

SAKA numbers are quite low so he need longetivity of good consistent football to be rated high. Span of 5-10yrs wil be ok for him to see were he wil belong except he improve on his numbers.

Haaland has numbers bro. He is not average.
You see say even your logic and definition no dey consistent.

First you said players need upto 5-10 years, e reach Mbappe and Haaland turn, e don bend.

Apparently, what's good for Mbappe And Haaland is not good for Saka.

You talked about numbers and chipped how you know how Mbappe started at Monaco. Same Mbappe that scored just 16goals between 2015-2018(3 whole years) is whom you claimed to know that have the numbers.


.... But e reach Saka turn, his first 3 years meant nothing to you. He needs to do more.


Wetin be the colour of your sentiments again?? grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:20am On Jul 03, 2023
Bluelines69:
You done hold am where no good grin grin
Omorr, I go like see him response especially pertaining that Haaland own grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:06am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
That what am saying bro, Saka having just 3 good seasons cannot elevate him from been above average.

He should stay consistent for 5-10 seasons and then we can know were he will most definitely belong.

mason mount won chelsea best player twice in a row but we all know he is very average.
if he stays 5-10 seasons, he's already world class na. How can you say someone should play at consistent level for upto 10yrs so that he'll be termed world class? grin
How many world class players deh reach 10yrs sef grin

Even kdb never reach 10yrs for Man city sef.

Mbappe that you rated, this will be his 5th year. Are you saying Mbappe isn't world class before 2023?

I'm not even saying Saka is world class but someone who is dishing out b2b2b excellent consistency can never be termed average.

Finally I want to ask...
Is Haaland a World class striker?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:58pm On Jul 02, 2023
BlueAngel444:
you f-up na big time, did I compare both of them. Person dey wish say Madueke go get better end product but because Saka the unmentionable was mentioned u jump on the post like bus conductor.
The only thing Saka is better than Madueke is end product

To you the above is not comparison...

Deh play
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:41pm On Jul 02, 2023
Realtord43:
Yes, he is one of epl best winger currently, but for how long can he maintain such fine form?

how many good seasons had saka have?

we seen winger who had have one to two good runs of form and later DIP. How can u rate those winger?

consistency is key!

SAKA should stay consistence for good number of seasons before he can be rated above average
Saka have had consistent good seasons from 2019/2020— 2022/23. That's three good seasons and still counting..(winning arsenal's back to back in the first two full seasons While coming 2nd in the 3rd season just behind Odegaard).
And he isn't even at his peak yet.
Also, he's always been nominated for PFA young player of the season for the past 3 seasons.

If that's not consistency and above average I don't know what that is.

He's not world class probably but saying he's very very average is just pure lies.

Just say you don't watch him... Simple!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:34pm On Jul 02, 2023
BlueAngel444:
being arsenal's top 3 player no mean say d hype dem dey hype am worth am. Imagining comparing Saka to Vinicius, Saka way him dribble be like Sterling own.

I only said apart from end products, before una start dey foam for my mouth dey talk Gareth bale transformation, tells how Saka if far better. You think if Madueke had a full season in Arsenal Saka wouldn't still be playing lb. Even Gabriel Martilleni is by far far far better than Saka. But where is his own hype. Every where quiet. Guess that's what they call English tax.
Lol... This is ignorance mixed with arrant gibberish you just spewed up there with utmost confidence.

Saying Martinelli is far far better than Saka is even the height of it.

Just keep on with your Madueke delusion and hyping.

Na me f-up
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:28pm On Jul 02, 2023
andrewbaba44:
Saka isn’t even being hyped self

Madueke never better than Ez abde finish na one of epl best wingers grin

we shouldn’t be talking about saka who is close to being world class
Lol .. Looking for ways to hype Madueke I guess grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 9:21pm On Jul 02, 2023
mostob:
Still better pass our own IMO.
I dey wait for 3rd kit.
I omorr the leaked 3rd kit no fine kan kan embarassed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:16pm On Jul 02, 2023
andrewbaba44:
Madam madueke is not better than saka with anything

Stop this your double standards abeg

Saka is better than Enugu Gervinho with everything
... Like Madueke and Saka in same sentence?

Him say people hype Saka because of end products grin

Madueke wey still raw. Person wey him decision making still deh beginner's level naim him dey compare to Saka grin

Chaii
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:13pm On Jul 02, 2023
BlueAngel444:
it's that end product that makes him no better than Saka. People hype Saka because of end product
Na wa ooo....
Saka wey don be one of arsenal's top 3 best players even while playing Lb naim you dey compare with Madueke wey never see first 11??

Which kain JuJu be this? embarassed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 7:22pm On Jul 02, 2023
mostob:
The jersey is cool boss but na the Nigeria (green) factor no make Jodera like am.
grin grin
This corntree don too show us shege
Lol, no be that one boss...
That green design to me is poorly designed abeg grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 7:21pm On Jul 02, 2023
BlueRayDick:
Jodera do u still think this jersey does not slap ?
Actually, personally it still don't slap.

That green is so awkward embarassed

I even prefer arsenal and Newcastle own to this. Them just use poor green painting design destroy this jersey.

Well, make I watch their match see am sha

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