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mostob:
And you think we can win a trophy with what you summarize here? If you can't deal with pressure as a team, you have no business challenging for the title. Do you think City won't mount pressure next season? BTW, how you take know they all have City on their mind? Until that City match, all of them who got interviewed always hammered on the fact that they're only focusing on themselves. See ehn, Arsenal tried this season but they didn't do enough. Using the 'top 4 was actually the target' narrative is just a cowardly excuse to me.

By the way they played. There's difference between talking and doing esp when we conceded the first goal

Odegaard was making mistakes in that match, arsenal refuses to press instead they backpedalled not to concede the 2nd goal. It has nothing to do with west ham quality that day. Many mistakes and you can't say it's a bad day cos we started brightly. Even Partey was scratching his head after missed pass upon missed passes(either underhit or overhit).

Tell me if it's not pressure?

mostob:
The bolded is just apt. Tell me before that Liverpool match that arsenal were not expected to win the league. Who has the highest winning percentage between City and arsenal?

To be honest, I clearly said that if we win Liverpool, then I'm now confident we would be favourite to win the league. I can dig it out if you want.
The thing is that 5point isn't any advantage against city side. Even Liverpool stronger than us in mentality and experience have fluffed 5points on two separate occasions against Man city when man city pip them.

If you follow my post, you'd know I was reserved about this title talk cos I know who dey my back. While I wanted us to keep on winning, I didn't want to entertain any idea that I'm favourite until I know I give Man city massive point gap or if with still that same 5 points, then it'll be after Man city game with at least 5 games to go. Well, both didn't happen and that Liverpool's and West Ham game was the death knell

I know what Man city with Liverpool experience how they are and I know this team too esp their title experience. They've not been here before.

Spy360:
You think it's easy to win matches under pressure from City and injuries?

A Liverpool fan told me few weeks ago, that he saw hell chasing or being chased by City. We caved in due to pressure.

We will finish with over 81points, that will be about what Napoli needed to win their league. PSG and Bayern have less points and still top their leagues.

I am not going to support the ban wagon of jesters who know not about mentality because their mediocre analysis cannot wash away the improvement Arsenal have achieved this season.

If AC Milan can be excused then it is biased argument not to excuse Arsenal too.

D think say pressure wey Man city dey pumps easy. Make dem ask Liverpool fans how e affect dem too.
Look at all the certified/potential league winners in all the league and compare them with their second position(ie Teams who had same form as us in Barca and Napoli). While we're all In 80+ points, their second is in 60+ points with only Madrid crossing into the 70+ point but at 71. Take our man city and the next team will be at 60+ point

Na only us they feel the heat because na Man city dey our back. Barca have drawn back to back, same as Napoli (and it's not against top teams)but their league is already assured because dem dey pass the others with over 12pts. But they'd expect me to insult arsenal's overall season because we drew against Southampton and West Ham.

Not me!

Spy360:
El Oh El



This investigative journalist you do so deserve national award.

Roland17 needs to make some explanations.

Lol, I won't take credit for anything cos the post is just open for all to see.

What's surprising is that he's hailing his Milan side for exact same thing he's criticizing his arsenal side for. He even had a dig at arsenal in his concluding paragraph

Truly, wahala no dey finish

iamoyindamola:
You are going to far
Even if we lose to LFC and win westham and soton then lose to city
We will still be topping

Mr Near.

We should lose two games against a team we're topping with 5points and we'll still top them?

Weh done Sir!!

mostob:
Normally, if the UCL has a last four comprising Madrid, Bayern, Arsenal and City... Arsenal will have the least chance of winning the cup due to some facts we all are privy of. This is to say we're not in control. It is understandable if we crash out. That doesn't mean Semi final is a trophy but the excuse will be that we lost to a better team. All we had to do is to regroup and go again.
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Compared to the league where we were 5 points clear, we are in control bro. We messed up in 3 winnable matches that would have moved us closer to the podium and you want us to console ourselves with 'top 4 was the Target's excuse? No bro...that ain't me.

Were they playing Bayern?
It's inter bro and we should clap for them

That's not even my issue with the thesis. Imagine an Italian champion whose target is to just qualify from the group stage! Group stage oo!!

Even if we finished 4th, that's suppose to be a norm not a target but we should be happy they reached SF.

And this 5 point clear is nada! We still have them at Etihad and they have a superior goal difference than us. It'll take a very very strong experienced team to win/draw them at Etihad while winning all our whole matches without feeling the heat from Man city.

mostob:
We didn't lost the league because City was chasing us. We lost the league due to woeful performances.
A win against Liverpool, West Ham and Southampton and we would still be ontop regardless of City's performances.

Like I said, you're expecting us to get over 95+ points to win the league. Anybody that watched that West ham game knows that it's title pressure that caused that performance after we conceded the first goal and that because there's no room for error, thus they became too careful and passive to a fault.
Southampton same thing. Two Mistakes!
Odegaard, the chief space scanner hurriedly gave a pass without scanning his area and it resulted to goal. Same thing he did against Man city. You think say no be because of Man city in their minds? Dey play!

This same Napoli lost/drew against team that's similar to west ham and Southampton or Liverpool in their league but nobody call them bottlers. Why because the person pursuing dem no deh like Man city.

Me, I'll look at their overall performances and know that this experience is a learning curve. Same thing next season and they won't be spared

mostob:
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Did the player punched above their weight? Yes
Did injury affected us? Yes
Were experience and winning mentality lacking within out squad? Yes.
Did we bottle the league? Yes
Should we throw the players and coaches under he bus? No (due to the facts above)
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But that some fans went thus, 'Top 4 was our target anyway so we overachieve this season' is exactly what some of us were against. If we had tried more and win it, nothing stops us from competing again next year.

You see, that's my issue.

Most of you claim you didn't throw the team and the coach under the bus but most of you guys post here says otherwise.

Talking about how the team is shambolic or Arteta isn't good and why they're bottlers is throwing the team under the bus. Like Spy said, you all are looking at the final result instead of the overall process. That's akin to saying Saka is a bad player in euros2020 because of the missed Pk. Knowing how badly England needed that win the way we needed this league, maybe you guys can agree with them that Saka is a bottlejob in that competition too

Tbh, we need to be realistic and most of us aren't. We still think arsenal prior this season was an elite team when we all know Arteta Is making us to get there. Team that haven't been in UCL for the past 6-7yrs.

If you watch this season well, first half of the season, we played beautifully knowing fully well we were looking for top 4. We kept on winning our matches as out then rivals kept on dropping points. It reached a stage we were no longer looking at them(and ourselves) and more at Man city. Mistakes ordinarily Partey and Odegaard wouldnt make, they were making it back to back and the worst part is that it was costly as it yielded to opponent capitalising and scoring us. If you think the players didn't feel the title pressure which is a different kinda pressure ... Abeg think again.

The good thing is that they have the experience now. They are very young and not even at their peak. We'll surely get better with their experience and hopefully by good signings same way we did last season entering into this season.
This is what I'm looking forward to, not doing as if this team is at their peak hence shouldn't have faltered. The way most of you are saying it, someone will think we might not have another chance again next season. They may be right and they might also be wrong, but one thing is certain, a person or team on the ascendancy would always have another opportunity compared to the team that isn't.

That's what I'm banking on with respect to this season's performances, their age profile, the talent in the squad and possible good additions.

Anybody wey never fail before, make him raise hand up!

mostob:
Jo.dera, UCL and EPL are different competitions. If Arsenal should reach the semi final of the UCL next season and lose to Madrid or even Bayern, the players will be applauded. That is it. You can't compare both scenarios.

Lol.. let us don't even go there tbh.
Are now glorifying UCL semifinals or what?
Who even remember semifinalists?

We can write thesis for UCL semifinalists but can't write thesis for absolute improvement a team made throughout the season?

Humour me!!!

The same epistles and thesis I wrote when I found out we lost the league is the same thesis Roland wrote ystdy for his Milan side.

Yet I am accused of having a mediocrity mindset for seeing the progress made this season by arsenal by the same person who wrote similar thesis for his Milan side.


It's all good!!

Spy360, This is when you know someone have fair assessment when it has nothing to do with Arteta.

AC Milan...

Target — qualify from group stage.

Milan actually qualified from the group stage, punched above their weight but lost the s/f.

Verdict: The team tried and they punched above their weight. Proud of the lads. It's a success

Arsenal...

Target — Qualify for top 4

Arsenal actually qualified for Top4 and punched above their weight to compete for the league

Verdict: Arsenal are bottlers and both the team and the coach no try. It's a failure. Underachievers!!

In the second paragraph, You'd be forgiven to think reaching and losing in semifinals is a trophy the way arsenal is derided for finishing second

Issorait!!

Roland17:
Overall, I can beat my chest and say the boys tried. Going into the season, getting out of the group stage would have been considered a success but they did not stop there, they kept pushing and punching above their weight. Making it into the semi-finals with this squad makes me proud of the lads.

Unlike some bunch of overachievers who would have reminded me the goal was not to get to the semi-finals but to make it out of the group stage!

#FORZAMILAN

iamoyindamola:
Exactly and it's my opinion which I am entitled to

True... You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm never against any opinion tbh. My only concern is tabling opinions as facts

iamoyindamola:
How do you top the table for 93% of the season and still not win it
No be JuJu be that

Lol.. because of agenda, bottling it's no longer huge point gap difference, it's now days at the top.
All these chewing gum sites looking for relevance

And oh, it suits your agenda well to troll Arteta whom you didn't like, so I understand

We had the chance to RUN away with the league — Maximum point 5-8points


Someone would think that at a certain time, we were topping Man city with 12-18points before we blew it up.

One useless picture stats was even posted here that we had 93% percent of winning the league and we bottled it while Liverpool of 2018/19 have 57% chance of winning the league and bottled it.

Na people wey no follow Liverpool of 2018/19 would believe that myth of 57% while our own is 93% when on both situation, Man city were pursuing those two teams closely with 5point difference for a long stretch.

The people who are highly disappointed are people who didn't put things in perspective. I'm sorry to say

We and Napoli had similar form this season (with just a difference of ±1or 2points separating each other each passing week) but at one stage, Napoli was topping 2nd position with as much as 18points while we, we're always looking at our back because of a 5point gap each passing week.

I remember always telling guys here that 5point is nothing especially if na Man city you're competing with but some certain people have already made up their minds. Check Napoli's fixtures, they didn't even started brightly and along the season, they still drew matches back to back (at least on two separate occasions). All those times they did dropped such form, nobody remembered that Napoli were bottlers or they were found out, but we, once we draw one match, because of Manchester city wey dey our back, you'll start seeing epistles of why this team is weak and why Arteta is a poor coach or that he's found out. No breathing space at all, something most champions enjoyed when they make such an incredible form but for us, No, we must be immaculate to win the league

For crying out loud, this team made the best start in its history. No arsenal side made such an incredible start, not even the invicibles, but you guys won't see it because Man city are always at our tails. You're concerned that we were at the top for so long forgetting the fact that it takes another kind of mentality to be at the top for Months while being followed closely by another top team throughout those months.

Leicester example is even worse. Those guys that were drawing matches at first and losing more than their wins before picking form in around October. People that won league before even the 80 point mark because of how poor everybody is that season.

You can keep on calling the teams bottlers and weak or calling us who saw the progress mediocres or better still, cherry pick the match we fvcked up to suit your agenda.

Na Una sabi!!

andrew444:
Bayern Leverkusen get money to pay am pass arsenal ? I doubt

it's not about money, it's about 1st team assurance mostly. I think Arteta didn't assure him of that next season.

The falcao comparison is just that they mostly jump club immediately their club qualifies for UCL.

Fkhalifa:
1st paragraph....

I insist both this Arterta and the previous Arsenal sides still lacked that killer instinct to achieve the big prize at hand, it has always been let's take positives...

2nd para
This Arterta side have also bottled Europa, Top4 and EPL

3rd para
It didn't take Liverpool too long before they won those big prizes ( Top4, EPL and UCL)

If Saka and Odegard sees it's just all near success, they would jump ship to big winning sides.

1st paragraph — it's your opinion. If you think so, I respect that.

2nd paragraph — Klopp lost Europa, EPL, UCL and Carling cup before his first trophy. Were you one of those who called him a bottler then? If I can remember vividly, you were one of those who were on Klopp's side.

3rd paragraph — If to you, 4 yrs(or seasons) isn't long before Liverpool won the big prizes, then why are you dragging Arteta who just have 3yrs and an fa cup to boot?
I even see you putting top4 among these particular category yet hours ago you said Top4 isn't an achievement.

If the near successes is prolonged, of course they(Saka and Odegaard) would rightly be frustrated and would want to jump ship. It's understandable.

My plea is that hold the team and Arteta accountable when we have that near successes or underperforming when we're at our peak, not this season that's like the foundation. From next season upwards, if we're not winning Trophies and challenging for trophies (or having near successes), then hold them accountable.

andrew444:
So he decide to leave arsenal after qualifying for the ucl after how many years out ? Na Bayern Leverkusen he see join 🙄

The move shock me

Lol.. him just be like falcao

Who knows, Maybe Arteta didn't assure him of first team spot next season cos the move is weird

andrew444:
Gunners bow is Xhaka leaving arsenal for Bayern Leverkusen

I don’t understand this move

Xhaka tried this season for us but if we can get massive upgrade on him, it'll do us a whole lot of good.

Not criticizing him but we'll actually need someone better to take us to that next level

Spy360:
Those attacking Arteta would have sung a different song if those loses were earlier in the season and our winning run was towards this end of the season where we still managed to finish second with over 80points.

They would have ordered a statue for him.

But because it happened the other way, they feel it is bottling. How do you bottle something that you never had before?

Arsenal were never favourites for top four by almost all bookmakers. So how did we bottle something that we were not given the chance

Them go say na mediocrity talk be this.

What even surprise me most is with their trolling — you'd think this boys didn't put effort into challenging for this title or that we didn't even show any ambition that we wanted the title.

I was here under Emery regime. Emery never had this kind of backlash from most fans here in his first season when he prioritized Europa for top 4. The kinda criticism Emery got wasn't even half of what Arteta is getting now. At least, I can't remember most folks talking about how they should sack him when we shamefully lost to Chelsea. Even sef, Emery didn't even hit any goal that was even set for him that season.

But for Arteta, dem don say we dey call am god that can't be criticized or should be sacked even though he met one of the goals.

If na rival fans dey do all these trolling, I for understand I swear.

afrodoc2:
Lol the guy no check well well.

I don’t think people understand the level of focus and quality it takes to compete with this City squad. If Champions League was a true round robin league with no knockout stage City would have won multiple.

Riyad Mahrez will lose small form and Pep will bench him for nearly a month going with Foden and Grealish. Immediately Grealish loses form he too goes to the bench and you have Foden and Silva. By that time Mahrez is back on form.
It is even worse in central defence. Laporte and Dias will be missing (sometimes for weeks). and Stones and Akanji will keep things ticking along.

Meanwhile Arteta had to play Saka and Martinelli come rain or sunshine. Saliba went down and the defence went kaput.

This Arsenal side is one of the youngest (if not the youngest) in the league and they played the best football an Arsenal side has played in over a decade. What the club now needs to do is back the manager so that when Saka hits a poor patch someone equally good can come in. The same for Odegaard, the central defence. Rotate players, keep them fresh, substitute early so they get some rest. They also need to get a prolific striker

There is no doubt in my own mind that Adete is on the right track. Problem is that he (and all other managers in the league) are facing an apex predator in this City side.

100% apt especially the bolded!!

iamoyindamola:
Aku Bottling oo
So chelsea, liverpool, scummies united and spuds will fold their arms and watch us top to lose it to city again abi
Make una they play if arsenal enter top4 next season na miracle especially with ucl football
That your coach way no fit manage more than 11 players make una they play na here we all gather they

You can keep on worrying and watching others progress and ignore the ones in front of you and concerns you.

Shebi no be you talk this same thing last season wen we lost out on top 4. Only that this time uel replaces ucl?

Continue!!!!...

Spy360:
My brother, though I hoped for it and prayed for it, I knew it was going to be near impossible unless some events overtakes it like a change in formation or a red card or something.

There have been gradual but steady improvements in our first eleven since Arteta joined. This season we took on the big six and came out tops most occasions, unlike before. I saw a team that was no longer afraid to face big teams. I hope this improves further by next season. I hope by next season we can go head to head with Man City in terms of quality of play and also quality of players.

Next season many pundits will begin to consider us as genuine challengers and then we would have no place to hide than to face the title squarely.

It will all begin with an early and successful transfer business in the summer. I am looking forward to addition of the likes of Rice and Caicedo in midfield, Diaby and Vlahovic in attack, and Guehi in defense. If this happens and early, I don't see why we won't give City another run, and this time we will be successful.

Gbamsolutely!! I believe it'll improve further. It's amazing that the few Matches we dropped points back to back was prior to Man city. And it happened twice. And both times we dropped out of the top spot. Maybe coincidence, maybe pressure.. I don't know but I believe the boys will be stronger next season
I would be very disappointed if it repeats itself next season or subsequent seasons but not this season as we aren't even at our peak yet.

Fkhalifa:
Arsenal can make their most die hard fans troll them...I have seen/read lots of fans doing so ...

It's quite disgraceful to lose the league in that manner, it eventually depict the Elephant story of trollers.. I was expecting the team to let City work for it till the last day, but Alas..
.0-3 loss at home in a 3 games to go.

As it is, Many fans would lose confidence in the team in achieving top target prize... But some cool fans would still keep singing " We try we come again next year".

Don not be surprised if Saka, Martineli's and Odegard all respond to big clubs who can help them land big trophies...

And that has been the Arsenal story over the years, Build, almost there, lose key players, recycled pattern again and again.

Lol... The way most guys here wailed last season when we lost out on top 4, you'd think we'll never make Top4 again. In fact, if few of us have any power then, dem for sack Arteta forgetting how the team played and that just few quality additional players and we'll get into top 4.
We fail to see the bigger picture sometimes.

The issue is that you're comparing Arsenal of latter Wenger years to this one. Those ones were serial bottlers and most of the time not ambitious except one or two players all due to the mediocrity Wenger allowed. In fact, that 2nd position we took was a fluke cos I know when other big teams sit up, we'll be done for. That team was on a downward slope and the last decades proved so

This arsenal is different. It's on an upward drive that needs few quality additions to become quality challengers again. I wonder how you didn't see it when you were one of those who saw Liverpool's upward drive under Klopp even before he won his first trophy.

The only reason dem Saka and Odegaard would go is if arsenal and Arteta decides to show no ambition.

So far for the bolded, I don't see such cycle repeating itself soon

afrodoc2:
The people trolling Arteta are the people who have never liked him. The 90-95 points that Pep has made the minimum benchmark for winning the league is unattainable for even some of the greatest United and Arsenal sides of the past. City's squad has far more quality, depth, and experience than Arsenal's. Pep benches/rests KDB, Haaland, Foden, Grealish, Mahrez, Laporte, Ruben Dias at will and there is no drop in quality, and sometimes he even benches 2,3,4 of them at the same time. Can Arteta try the same?

His first season Arsenal had 56 points. His first full season it increased to 61 points. The next season 69 points. Now it will be greater than 80 points.

90 points no be beans. Arteta tried but he was facing a juggernaut.

The first sentence is Facts. That's why any match arsenal drop point any matchday, he's always come under harsh criticism. If no be bottler or that he's found out, you'll hear "we need to sack him" like say na like so dem dey sack coach.

The bolded is what I'm pointing out also . I remember he did that squad depth thing against Sporting and we know how we were eliminated on penalties(abi we were beaten blue black on penalties). Just benching Partey, Saka and Odegaard and Trossard and we knew how Sporting were playing us off the park. Immediately those guys were in the pitch together, Sporting starting playing deep as most teams played against us this season neither did they have any chances. We fell off with penalties yet Arteta was still branded a failure for bottling Europa forgetting to look at our squad depth. In fact, na that dey I know say our 2nd 11 mostly no be am and I'm just praying for nothing to happen to any core of our first 11. Yet, na same squad depth we expect to carry us over with over 90points. Let's even neglect the experience title pressure brings which Man city players are experienced at but we are just getting to get used to.

Let's ignore the progress we've made this season which can be a foundation for future seasons.
Let's pretend it wasn't right that Arteta prioritized the league over Europa when it was at our advantage like say almost all of us won't do the same in his shoes.

Spy360:
Am I happy that we lost the league? No. But I am not going to rubbish the efforts of people if they actually gave their best shot at it. Finishing second to Man City is by no means a disgrace.

This is the long and short of my thoughts and opinions.

Calling Arteta or the team a failure as if they did a disgraceful something I don't just understand. This is just branding all their efforts in vain or refuse to see the progress just because they punched above their weight.

If it's from rival fans, it's understandable. If It's pouring out your grievances and disappointment, it's understandable.

But trolling your own team for trying to win the ultimate goal but it didn't happen? C'mon!!

Spy360:
When I say they are not good, I mean as good as we thought. We had believed they would even beat City. But the game against Brighton showed that apart from the first team which were strong simply because of their tactical approach, the team as in the entire team including the bench aren't that good as envisaged.

We would beat them this second leg??

My hope for the league dashed when we drew Southampton and West Ham. Anyone who believe we could beat Man city at Etihad must have that faith that Jesus Christ taught that would move mountain.

I think one of the reasons I'm not very emotional and deeply disappointed is that I know the strength and limitations of this team.
I knew presently, we don't have that "extra" to carry us over the finishing line but we're almost there. Previous years, it would have been very enough but Guardiola have certainly lifted the bar very very high that you'll need that extra to go a long stretch

Next season's recruitment will tell us whether we would really get that extra to push us to the next phase or not.


While the first 11 is good, but the bench is not that good. Saying the team isn't good entirely is you just seeing them through the lens of last week's match and not their overall match this season.

Roland17:
Take this mediocre bull crap far from me. Me and you have been fans of this club for decades on this thread. If e dey pain you then stop hiding behind the contentment of coming 2nd and being mediocre!

Tasting the UCL is the reason we were beaten blue and black in the Europa, bounced from FA and the League after being one of the highest spenders going into the season.

Na so!!!
Losing on penalties can now be termed beaten blue black? I see

That's how the other day you agreed we prioritized the uel same way we prioritized the league. Match way na five 2nd 11 we use start.

One of the highest spenders with just addition of GJ, Zinny and Viera this season. All less than or just above 100m euros combined.

Man u, Chelsea, Man city, Newcastle and even Liverpool been buy their players with peanuts shebi?

I noticed you're really disappointed and it's all good. But sometimes overblowing things just to make your talk weighty no dey gel at all.

Spy360:
Their performance today showed they aren't as good as we thought. They were clearly beaten today in their home ground. I can't see a City side, no matter how poor they play crumble this low.

A city side can be dismantled even in their bad day. No team wey no dey crumble once in a while, na make e no extend or repeat itself be the Koko. Leicester once walloped City 5-2 at Etihad, that doesn't make City a bad team.

You'd use this match to conclude about arsenal's team this season while ignoring the other beautiful matches we played even at Emirates? Wahalaeux!!

Spy360:
So if you were asked to analyse this season, will you start from the 2-2 draw against Liverpool or the or the loss to Man City?

We will finish with at least 81points. That's already among the top 5 in the top European leagues this season. Napoli won the serie A with 82points and games to spare. PSG in French league with Messi, Mbappe and Neymar don't have that much points.

We are just unfortunate to go head to head and toe to toe with a side like Man City. I cannot kill the boys for not winning the league. All I can ask for is improvements going into next season.

I've always said it. The only reason why we didn't win this league is because of Manchester city and not because we weren't really good this season. The bar have been set high. Even the Leicester everyone is using as example finished with 81 points. Worst still is that they were officially champions without even reaching the 81points sef(with up to 3 games to spare or more). The 71 points we finished as 2nd would barely scrape us into top 4 on a normals.

People can claim Arteta is a bottler and this and that but I know this team's depth and how far it can go and I know we can't have an immaculate form this season.

Anybody wey no see am that way, na him sabi.

Spy360:
I remember a couple of seasons ago when he dropped to bottom three and we all wanted him sacked. Now he has finished second we still want him sacked. They call it mediocrity to say we improved this season as if we didn't.

I am quite emotional myself but I also try to take things into perspective. No commentator can say that Arsenal and Arteta didn't try this season.

This have been my point all these while. But if I talk dem go say na mediocrity.

Shegzdave:
I don’t think you’re getting the point.
No arsenal fan will say they’re not impressed with the boys but loosing the league in such manner and claiming we overachieved is devastating

This season, I’m always looking forward to when the boys will play every weekend cause of the joy I get when watching them but not grabbing an opportunity when it presents itself is the only thing that got Me angry with the team.

I just hope they get it right with the players they’ll be getting next season

I have so many things to talk about that bolded but presently I don't think it's necessary. And truly I understand your point.

Well.. I'm believing arsenal for next season. I just hope we get it right we the players for next season cos we're really in a very delicate phase atm.