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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:41pm On Jan 29, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
another excuse again tuchel said he want defenders, boehly clearly stated that he wouldn't sign any player without tuchel consent,hence why we didn't sign Ronaldo so any player we signed tuchel had a hand in it ,he has the power to reject or accept ,tuchel made phone call to kounde, kounde Wasn't convinced,give Potter that phone kounde will fly straight to chelsea,you are just bringing up excuses ,I don tell tuchel ain't really smart apart from champions league he has nothing to boast of ,no sweet football , patternless , depends heavily in wingbacks, bottled two finals against Liverpool
You think it's not the recruitment team that does the talking and convincing mostly??

Most clubs recruitment team is the one that have most influences on players signings. Mudryk didn't come to Chelsea because of Potter for example. Mudryk came to Chelsea because of the plans Chelsea have for him and the future reason why he was persuaded and that's the work of the recruitment team
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:37pm On Jan 29, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
let me give an example why Potter is smarter than tuchel whether recruitment team on not , badiashile was bought because Potter said he wants to play back four and our defense lacked left footed center back,as usual recruitment did their works ,,Potter chose badiashile because if his composure in the ball , height and long passes sometimes,that is a smart coach ,he knows what he wants he knows what area we lacked,to matches badiashile players we didn't concede,Silva had peace of mind,I will say it again tuchel has no excuse ,had it been he looked at chelsea properly and identified where we lacked we wouldn't be having lots of problem , signings we have been making so far a 10/10,I'd you think Potter didn't play a big role I don't know what to tell you.


#jo.dera
#hens.ben
You see what I'm saying?
Potter made his plans and the recruitment team went to work and identified Badiashile.

You see how it works?

Is it not something Tuchel lacks (good recruitment team)?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:34pm On Jan 29, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
you are deviating tuchel had a full summer, can't tell me nothing ,how can all his target suck?
Didn't he clear himself?
Why wasn't he given a good recruitment team?

Did he tell you he needed the 250m?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:32pm On Jan 29, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
rubbish talk ,as coach you want to tell me that tuchel didn't notice auba is old and finished ,as a coach you want to tell me he didn't notice that as soon as Kante and James had injury our performance drop,na dunce be that now.
Tuchel have made it very clear that he would be involved in managing players not getting players in.

Boehly wanted fofana, Cucurella and Gordons and he went in for them using data this data that. If Gordons have come now, you'll Still blame him on Tuchel. Give him the right recruitment team and get him the right players and you can be fully justified for calling him out if he fvcks up. Man made it clear he isn't interested cos he's not available for talent id, same thing happening with Potter.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:19pm On Jan 29, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
stop defending tuchel for Christ sake ,he was giving enough money to get his target ,he squandered it on defense,told boehly we don't need Midfielders,now here we are spending all over again , boehly wants to cut losses with all tuchel previous signing, brother scout or no scout, you shouldn't be bad as that stop defending nonsense
Which is better...
Giving money to someone who isn't ready for talent id and prefers managing good players or getting a good recruitment team for him to get him good players.?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:17pm On Jan 29, 2023
GTOkowa:
Although Tuchel never had those guys, but i don't think u as a coach will go and bid for this Aub na if not madness. Reason am na.
That's the only person he trusted cos he have worked with him previously and he was successful at Barca.

If he had a good recruitment team, he would have done better.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:12pm On Jan 29, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
you still don't get it,we took Brighton scouts because we want to copy their model for cheap players, developing and selling,so if we sack Potter today they stay ,they gave tuchel fucking £250m to spend, enough summer time go bring target and you are giving me bullshit excuse,to make matter worse tuchel couldn't even convince kounde or raphinha to join us but Potter did with all his target even malo gusto ,who I'll clearly compete for game time with James , Continue defending rubbish
That's the same thing we're saying. They know Potter can't do it alone reason why they brought his recruitment team to join him. Good recruitment team, something Tuchel lacked. So blaming Tuchel for poor recruitment no gel.

Most coaches depends on good recruitment team that fits with their ideology. Most of these things na Boehly handiwork that's why you'll hear data this data that early this season. There's a reason he washed his hands off once these recruitment minds came on board
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:01pm On Jan 29, 2023
FirstbornWds:
Better ooo. Before them declare am wanted.
grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 4:57pm On Jan 29, 2023
FirstbornWds:
How do you people confidently spew rubbish and sleep well at night?
That's sarcasm to the one who says Potter is better than Tuchel without trophies. Y'all just didn't read the script grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 4:56pm On Jan 29, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
OMG keep quiet,I said tuchel never wanted a collaborative approach to signing players how is that hard for you to understand? and in case you don't know,two of our scouts came from Brighton,right hand to Potter , datro fofana was scouted by them from Brighton,same with madueke,do you think tuchel will work with this kind of names? absolutely not
There's a reason they came from Brighton and that's because they are needed to help potter in talent id.

Tuchel have made it clear that he's not interested in talent id, just managing of good players (because he's not good at it) cos it's demanding. Give him the guys Potter have and he'll still do wonders too.

I wonder which talent id Potter will be doing when he's managing Chelsea and thinking tactics
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 4:47pm On Jan 29, 2023
hensben:
Tuchel never had these guys, it was just him and Boehly so it was difficult because Voehly is inexperienced. This new scout identify players that have the chance to become world beaters, that’s the difference.
Thank you for saying the truth and clearing the air. I just saw that anti-tuchel rant by ballzproblem and I just shake my head.

This was someone praising Chelsea for bringing in Vivell and Stuart into the recruitment team, something Tuchel never had.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:56am On Jan 29, 2023
kokaneprodigy:
It’s the challenge from the offside player that deemed it an offside offense.
For obvious reasons you are deliberately leaving that out.
If only he made contact with the defender, I would have agreed with you but I'm not seeing any contact. At least, that contact would have made that challenge valid.

Our differing opinion emanated from the fact that Rashford didn't touch the ball, thus not interfering with play while I argued otherwise. This same player didn't touch the ball too and if there's no contact with the defender, then he clearly should have been onside(as per your claim) whether challenge or not!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:03am On Jan 29, 2023
Kokaneprodigy, This is pictures not videos, so it won't capture my point I've been insistent on...

My main point is that

1... the pass being made to the offside players(in this case Man u and Sevilla)

2.. how they(the offside players) made the play active by chasing the ball

3... How they stopped at the last minute for their teammate(who's onside) to receive the ball without they(the offside players) touching the ball

These 3 scenerios was what happened in both games. You've talked about contact by Sevilla player on the Cadiz player which is valid(if true). But I'm not seeing any contact at all instead the Cadiz player slipped
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:37am On Jan 29, 2023
iamoyindamola:
27
omorr, and I thought he's a young guy ooll
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:32am On Jan 29, 2023
iamoyindamola:
That guy useless pass awilo sef
There's one fofana in lens he's their captain but he's around 28yo
And we can try amrabat too he's a good ball carrier, just that he look like person way fit slap arteta for training 😄
Seko fofana don reach 28? shocked
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:25am On Jan 29, 2023
Lush100:
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U neva watch onana game be that
Make Onana go learn good ball control first. Let's forget about progressive passes and beating press. Just good ball control first

We dey look for person wey fit be good deputy for Partey no be just anybody
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:04am On Jan 29, 2023
kokaneprodigy:
I’m not trying to be intelligent, I am intelligent. The player challenged him and made contact. Yes he touched him.

On Saka I’ve asked you to share the video as I didn’t see the first half of the match you refused so that your lies won’t be debunked.
I no know where you see contact sha.

Cadiz defender slipped as there was no contact
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:45pm On Jan 28, 2023
kokaneprodigy:
You didn’t see that the guy that was offside made contact with the defender causing him to fall down?
I checked that thing Well and there was no contact.

Maybe another person can confirm
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:23pm On Jan 28, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Leave kokane he just they play
Same thing happened yesterday saka never touch ball he anticipated the ball and the ref blow offside
Lol... grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:22pm On Jan 28, 2023
mostob:
Hallelujah grin grin
Amen!!! grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:14pm On Jan 28, 2023
hensben:
Na when both retire him go really know say cr7 and Messi nor be mate. Make cr7 Dey deceive them for social media. grin
grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 7:09pm On Jan 28, 2023
Brighton have placed a £90m on Caicedo.

Abeg make we move to option B, time no dey
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 7:08pm On Jan 28, 2023
mostob:
The injury may not be that serious bro...
It is his ribs according to report
He's playing next week against Everton.

Hopefully, he's given us lifeline for us to really get a good Midfielder
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 7:07pm On Jan 28, 2023
Kokaneprodigy, Spy360 and Iamoyindamola.

Did you guys watch any highlights or match regarding Sevilla and Cadiz last week.

Exactly the same thing happened between Man city and Man u but their goal was ruled out.

Here's the link at 40-45sec was when the thing happened


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ftX66U2DjE
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 6:52pm On Jan 28, 2023
mostob:
Thank you. That 'pointing' is exactly why I was furious with Sambi.
Exactly...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 6:46pm On Jan 28, 2023
johnjunior39:
I am not sure Papa Xhaka saw him because what is the meaning of that?

I just watch the clip, I would have done worse walahi even petit attacking midfielder is defending and you are strolling around.

There is difference between low - confidence and zero interest.



Wo, no be lokogna dey do me, Partey is injured for whopping two months biko how do we salvage this, not sure Brighton is ready to sell Caicedo
Lol... It's over sha. I just hope we sign a good DM this January.


Omorr, please no dey joke this kind expensive joke ooo. Partey out for two months fit break person heart.

Good news: I just read the injury isn't serious and Partey will be expected next week against Everton grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 6:41pm On Jan 28, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Now you are getting it
Even gundogan looked back before receiving ball to confirm awilo was with him but he wasn't
Lol... It just made mockery of our press.

Anybody (whether captain or not) in Odegaard's situation will just spark
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 3:44pm On Jan 28, 2023
mostob:
I have rewatched the clip. Do you know why Ode shouted at him? Sambi was probably feeling too big to mark.
Twice, I repeat twice...Ode pointed at Gundogan and instructed Sambi to mark him but Sambi refused. Saliba was supposed to mark Alvarez while Sambi stays infield to mark Gundogan but just stood without pressing.
Ode did nothing wrong whether as a captain or a player.
I just rewatched the clip again and this time without the tension of the match and coupled with Jen.cejyde explanations too, I certainly don't think Odegaard did anything wrong in calling him to order.

I mean, Odegaard pointed at him to Mark that zone (plus player) In order for Man city not get out of that press while he (Odegaard) started out with the press. It's really frustrating after giving your all to a cause only to find out that it's been made futile. It would have been a different case if Odegaard didn't instruct Sambi as well as showing the way.

It's really frustrating sha and 95% of us will do same thing esp if we really CARE!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 3:02pm On Jan 28, 2023
Jencejyde:
Baba I get the point clearly and like I said looking at it purely from a player perspective,I do not believe Odegard acted wrongly as a captain. In fact I personally feel he had to do it to instill back concentration and confidence.

Sometimes as fans we will say our team is not doin well and there is no leadership because it seems everyone is just playing anyhow but when a player decides to show some leadership right there on the pitch, we bemoan the fact that it was done openly and could dampen the other players confidence.

I'd rather bark at you when on the pitch in the heat of the moment so as to ensure that we walk out that pitch as winners rather than keep quiet and lose only to meet you later to say you could have done this or that.

It's pointless after the loss.

We are all entitled to how we feel leadership should be displayed but in this context based on what happens on the pitch, I believe Odegard did what was best in not just sambis interest but for the team.

I believe you also see Ramsdale do this to his defenders. This is football and you can ge5 to some extreme adrenalin levels in a high stakes game . It's only normal to let out steam especially when you feel or see that another team mate is not pulling their weight in support of the cause..
You made sense. I now agree with your Pov of Odegaard being right with what he did
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 2:58pm On Jan 28, 2023
Jokerman:
So if I blame Messi for Barcelona recent struggles, I'm justified then? grin
Was Messi benched by any coach during his time at Barca?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 2:55pm On Jan 28, 2023
FirstbornWds:
I can assure you that his airhead would ignore this question like a plague.

Even the last Euros, fifa dash them 3 penalties inside 4 games, yet they couldn't progress past the RO16
Lol .. him just dey sidestep am sha grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 2:53pm On Jan 28, 2023
Jokerman:
Lol... bro, you still dey blame Ronaldo for Juventus none trophies since 2021 grin grin

When will you blame other players?

When will you blame Martial, Antony, Kean etc?
Na still the same thing we dey talk na grin

We'll start with Ronaldo (the bigger issue) then transcend to the rest. That's what Ten Haag did and as you can see he has bought Werghost to give Martial competition tongue

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