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daveP:
How did you guys see his performance vs England? Are you still convinced he'll fit in?

He wasn't effective ystdy even when Serbia dominated proceedings in the second half.

Anyways, I won't even use that to judge him. It's just first game

Like I earlier said, this thing is overblown. Everyone knows Saka is their starboy

Mostob, see that same Telegraph that put on Saka's picture when England lost against Iceland. Same Telegraph put on his picture when they won(even though he didn't score).

All these things no be new things. Na people just wan bring racism card into this stuff that day.

Nb: I promised you that I would try and bring a picture when they win without him scoring yet he'll still be their posterboy. That's me doing just that. I'll drop my pen on this matter hereon.

Saka is now used as a poster boy for lineup oo.

I still feel that previous pix was overblown sha

mostob:
Yea... Fixtures will be out next week Tuesday

Niceee

mostob:
That was from what I observed towards the end of last season o, I'm not the coach. Nwaneri is a midfielder, not a winger. Duberry? Heard he is leaving.

Make we dey see Sha. Na for preseason I go know whether the postulation go hold true.

As for duberry, e go dey really sad if he leaves. I just hope it's just rumors Sha

Shegzdave:
I saw a picture of both of them when they were much younger and they were almost looking like siblings, birds of a feather will always mingle together(they’ve both got Winning mentality and both are chemistry students if you get what I mean😂)

They will definitely win more trophies in their coaching career as both are still young and very good in their jobs.

Na Oyindamola and Rolan reply I Dey wait for like this😂😂😂

Both have been friends from childhood gan gan. Reading about their lives one would deduce that both are born to be coaches. Na just trophies deh wait for Arteta own. Hopefully he'll get those trophies

mostob:
Yea... They can fill in on the wing as well as up front. I think I read somewhere that Newcastle needs to sell before they can buy.

We might be seeing Martinelli on the right more often next season. With Jesus deputising on the left for Trossard.

Lol... So are you saying Martinelli would be Saka's deputy?

Woww... Not bad if this is true but it's unexpected. Anyways, since it's like that, Arteta should use the opportunity to try and promote Dem duberry and Nwaneri. Him no really rate Carabao cup thus make him try Dem for there

🗣️| Xabi Alonso opens up about his close friend Mikel Arteta:

🔸"I'm lucky to have a friend next door who is as crazy about soccer as me. His name is Mikel [Arteta]. We often talk about skateboarding, playing tennis at the beach, surfing and Of course, football too. That kid - even more crazy about football than me. He's a little younger than me and my friends - maybe just a few months.

🔸But, he is a competitive monster. He always wants to win, even if it's just a match on the beach. That's the kind of passionate love for this sport that no one can show you. You were born with it. That is the strong connection between us. And everything is still like that, until today...

🔸One month ago, I received a phone call from my old friend Mikel. And as usual, we still talk about football.

🔸He said, "Hey, we're playing Bayern Munich in the Champions League this week, what do you think about them?"

🔸I replied, "Well, we'll also play West Ham, what do you think?"

If you told us as children that each of us would lead Arsenal and Bayer Leverkusen for the next 30 years, I'm sure we would both be bursting with happiness and shock."

Excerpted from The Players Tribune ✅

Your thoughts...

mostob:
Or we can even buy one of those 'wing strikers'
Rashford, Isak...

Wing strikers is even better cos they can do two Jobs (incase of injury, they can fit in). But then Isak is a no go area. Na Newcastle posterboy be that

Tbh, I'm more concerned about us getting Saka deputy and beefing up quality squad depth than us getting a striker

mostob:
A nice tourney for Havertz and we might as well say goodbye to another striker.

It's the reason I said las las, we fit no even buy striker sef

Spy360:
I neto see the person that marketed Solanke to you. That person is a great marketer.

I go watch am keenly this coming season. Na my football goal be that aside watching arsenal.

Spy360:
Recall we have had this discussion before when we compared Jesus and Nketiah. We both concluded that Nketiah has a better goal per games ratio than Jesus and evn't en Havertz. And that it's because he focuses more on scoring while the others who play as false strikers focus more on chance creation.

Nketiah is the record goal scorer in England at youth level. That includes every British top striker you know today. I saw his potentials. He is 24/25.

We can agree on the fact that Arteta's formation or tacticsal pattern only allows for a false striker who must drop deep. That does not favour Nketiah. If Arteta changes his pattern to allow a true striker, Nketiah will bench both Jesus and Havertz.

You will always call youth level

There are many players that made it at youth level but couldn't cut it at senior level. Examples abound

Anyways, whether true striker or not, I don't see what you're seeing in Nketiah. He's not making that 9 his own at all.

Havertz for example I watched him keenly at Chelsea, I know he's good at playing 9 reason why I advocated that the best place to play him without us gnashing our teeth always is the Cf position (not midfield like we originally intended). He doesn't work hard like GJ (even though he does work hard) but one thing you'll agree with me is that you'll feel his presence in that Cf position. That's something I don't get to see from Nketiah at all. It doesn't matter whether he's a true 9 or a false 9.

I believe he's a midtable striker and there's nothing wrong with it

germaphobe:
Heard Nelson told the club he's considering leaving

Lol, he's not serious. So he's still considering?

This is someone that doesn't make match day squad when everyone is fit. He should be pushing his agent now to be looking for club already

Jamiuokolla:
Unfortunately, this isn't what we are talking about in the UTD context...

If you check Patrick's post, he clearly stated that the DoF should sign players who are best fit for the pattern of play the club adopts... apparently for continuity and sustainability. In this regard it is the manager that has to "adapt", and not the other way round. With this, we can also assume that the DoF would literally be the one to also "pick" the coach that would be best suited to the club's football philosophy.

I actually agree that the DoF should identify and maybe recommend players to the manager....at least for a club that is still struggling to get back to its glory days...However, for the purpose of accountability, the gaffer's voice should still carry more weight -we all know who gets the heat when things go south

Naah... Coaches voice ought not to carry more weight when recruiting players cos Las Las, coaches job are mostly transient compared to players.

It should be a joint responsibility and understanding. Ten Haag and the Dof should decide what style and pattern of play they want to adopt, once this is settled, then the Dof would get to work to give him the kind of players that would suit such pattern.

That's the synergy most top successful teams do.

mostob:
Your differences are spot on. What about experience? Experience matters a lot especially as he will be featuring for us in UCL. Solanke ain't different from Nketiah jare.

And yes, the striker market may be scanty but I trust Arteta and Edu to find a suitable one for us.

Lol, experience shouldn't be a problem na. This guy have been in top flight football for how many years now. It's not as if we're buying one greenhorn from Africa or far east Europe.

Anyways, let's just see wetin Arteta and Edu go get for us. Las Las, we fit no buy any Striker sef

Jamiuokolla:
I understand but how would the issue of DoF getting Bums be addressed?

If the new DoF is also a lover of serial wánkers like Antony, wetin go happen?

A good Dof will hardly get bums cos he'll have all the time to analyze and dissect the players they're watching, something a coach won't have on his hands.

Take example of Liverpool Dof. Klopp wanted Brandt(mostly because he knew him due to German things) when he wanted to buy an attacker to complement/complete their attack, their Dof (Edwards) noticed that with Klopps style of players Salah would be good and he pointed Salah to Klopp instead of Brandt as someone who will gel well into his system (both players were very young then) and since both coach and Dof were in very good working relationship and understanding, Salah was bought and the rest is history. Tho exceptions may be made for one or two players (for the coach) but mostly it's the dof responsibility to identify players that'll fit into system

Also Dof won't go all Transfer window wasting time on De Jong that will never come. Something Ten Haag did on his debut season

engrelvis:
Maybe am not getting sometin right. Why will Dof be in charge of recruiting players? That shud be the duty of a coach.Better still they can work together to achieve a common goal. Also lf ETH fuk up tomoro there will be no excuses.

The question should be "why not".?
Coach already have a lot of work on his hands normally, from tactics to strategizing to keeping the players motivated and focused. Adding recruitment process to his workload should be an enormous task for him.

What you should be looking at is that the coach should have a good working relationship with the technical director for things to go smoothly and fast. That's what successful teams do

Shegzdave:
I know Nketiah is not the guy but Solanke isn’t much better than him

Lol... Issorait.

Personally, I go try watch am well next season

mostob:
Jode.ra o... Solanke really?

What is the difference between Solanke and Nketiah? Both are top 4 strikers at most. We don't just need anyhow striker but the one that can improve and raise the mentality level of the team. A game changer that can influence a game singlehandedly.

Lol, I have highlighted the difference between Solanke and Nketiah earlier. If there's any of the difference you feel is false, let me know

See ehn, Strikers hard for market. The worst part is that most of the Strikers we're being linked to (or most of us even want) and technically "one season wonders" too if we look am well. From Sesko, to Dovybk to Gyokeres. Aside Osimhen who isn't a one season wonder, which other Striker are in the market (and young) aside from those first three?

We need to make our own "striker" and what we need is someone who has the needed attributes and that's exactly what I listed earlier. Game changing and influence will come automatically with game time and confidence as long as the said player has the mentality.

I believe Solanke has Matured enough.

But then, it's my opinion tho

Spy360:
I honestly do not consider Jesus as a striker. He is at best a support striker or attacking midfielder just like Havertz. The only true striker we have in that squad is Nketiah and the system doesn't favour him.

It's not because of true striker or false striker. It's because Nketiah is not that good. I'don't have confidence anytime the guy is starting

I dunno what you see in him sha but currently I think the best for all parties is for him to move on

Spy360:
I am laughing at you thinking that Solanke is better than Nketiah. 😂

I won't argue. I am only going to pray that Nketiah leaves for another club perhaps replacing Solanke at Bournemouth so we can check something.

Lol... I wish we fit do swap deal sef

Ballzproblemm:
Crystal palace hawking olise like gala 😅

Lmaoo...

Madonna once said : You only see what your eyes want to see



Crystal palace is advertising their new Jersey for next season. You're here seeing "buy olise"

You funny sha

timbros:
Is it because of Ribery you made that analogy?

Yes boss

BlueRayDick:
They should give a 17 year old Amateur 50k per week contract ? 😂

U’ve got jokes . How much do u think Fabio Viera and Smith-Rowe earn sef ?

Lol, Spy went extreme there Sha but I know he didn't mean it that way
He probably just want arsenal to do everything in their power to make sure he doesn't depart colney.

I know say na the news Sod drop ystdy fit trigger this reaction from spy cos I know most arsenal fans won't be happy if he left after all the hype and exploits he's been garnering

Spy360:
Chai!

Nketiah is highly underrated. Let him leave and we will regret not tapping his potentials.

Underrated how??

I dunno if he'll be a late bloomer Sha but presently he's not looking like someone that will be our Cf. Nketiah needs to be sold.

He's not imposing enough
His link up isn't that great

In fact, to cut the long story short, he doesn't fit a title challenging team currently. I know I defended him as a good deputy when guys where clamoring that he should be sold but then that was because we were top 4 contenders. Now, unfortunately, I'm afraid we don outgrow him.

As for Solanke, I believe he'll do well with quality players around him.

He's fast
He's aerially dominant
His linkup is good
His physically imposing
Can take on his man

While Goal scoring has a hitch here but he's proven that with a quality coaching and settled team he can really Excel. Scored 29 efl goals and 19 epl goals shows the mark of someone who can excel when he's surrounded by quality(anyone who knows Iraola from la liga knows he's a very decent coach so it wasn't surprising for me seeing Solanke with his output this season). He's 26yrs of age also, so he fits well into our age criteria too.

For Nketiah, aside his poaching which I feel he's good at, he's limited in many other aspects

One thing I know about myself is that I don't look at stats (or goals) to see if a player is this or that. I mostly (keenly) watch attributes and skillset such a certain player can bring to this team with respect to what we as a team have cos I believe a good team can make a good player look great while a poor team can make a good player look bad. Also a good/great player might look out of place in a good team whose system doesn't fit such player (it's one key reason I won't pick Haaland or Auba in this team even though they're great players)

Spy360:
Sesko only started making the marks around the second half of last season. He started playing as no 9 when Openda was moved to the wings. Openda was actually the main goal threat for Leipzig taking the season as a whole into account. However a lot of potentials was seen in Sesko hence the hype.

Most of the top strikers available are already in big clubs and they would not be allowed to leave unless an astronomical fee is paid. The move many clubs are making now is to identify potential big things that are yet unknown. The likes of Solanke for me does not look like he will be a top striker. I mean we have observed him for years now and the signs he is showing are those of mid table club level at best.

Arteta and Edu must do everything not to allow Chido Obi Martins to leave for free. They ought to have tied him down before he started blowing hot. They should bless his life with a decent professional contract worth at least 50k. It will not be a waste. 50k x 52weeks = 2.6m. On a good day this guy can fetch over 30m if we choose to sell him.

Yeah, I believe arsenal will try and hold the this Chido boy. If we're serious, we should definitely make a clear path for him into the squad.
And it's true with what you say about Most clubs buying potential big hits and young guys cos proven players unfortunately doesn't come cheap.

Let's just hope we'll get someone good for a Cf. Jesus would have sorted this problem if only he was less injury prone and more clinical than he is

timbros:
Let's start with the debate going on before your analogy.

Who was leading the poll before the voting time became extended? Ronaldo or any other candidate?

Let's deal with that one first.

Ribery and Ronaldo were the favorites

mostob:
You get...
Aston Villa? Dem bin get small affiliation with City probably. The rule is probably preventing them from flexing their financial muscle.

ohh.. I see
No wonder

timbros:
I'm not going into that detail with you, sorry.

What I responded to is your analogy. I want to marry it with the discussion you were having.

You claim Ronaldo was leading the vote and more time was extended. And then you gave the football match example of extra time.

Who will the extra 20min favor? The team leading (Ronaldo) or the team behind (others)?

Lol...
Maybe I'm lost on what we're talking about Sha

timbros:
This was your post I first quoted...



Who will that 20min favor in the context of Ronaldo leading the vote and time was extended?

Obviously as at 2013 it's supposed to be Ribery. The extended votes and immediate recency bias and uproar Ronaldo's hat trick against us Sweden tilted the favor

mostob:
Chelsea are on the brink too. Newcastle? they also have Arab owners.

Lol.. I na why Chelsea dey support Dem cos Dem Know say if akpako nack Man City, Dem fit open their own matter.

Newcastle is planning to head into that direction too with the way they're moving reason why dem dey support Man City.

My question is what interest does Aston Villa have?

mostob:
Yea..make sense for him sha. Just that his development would have been rapid if he had decided to join Arsenal. Solanke? Abeg no. E better make Nketiah stay.

Striker scarce o. Maybe we might go for Vlahovic.

Yeah, perhaps it would have been rapid but do arsenal need another "potential or deputy" strikrt?
I thought we need one that would slot into the team and elevate us instantly like G.j did for us. That was my line of thought all these while.

Reason why I said Solanke is because he can bring that presence to the box compared to Nketiah(since that's what most of us clamoured for). Also he's very physically dominating and good aerially compared to Nketiah. He might be a diamond in the rough that can be polished into a devastating striker with the right element and quality surrounding him. I've not watched him well enough to know his other deciding attributes but this is just few times I did watch him last season.

Striker scarce my brother. Maybe we just need one we could shape into a very devastating one na why I dey highlight Solanke