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daveP:
heard rumors ke? How? Wasn't that his agent acting on his behalf again?

Now you know. Don't break it until it's breaking news.

ChrisKels:
I got played, I never broke the news until the idiot said "yes I am ready". I never broke it when he was still contemplating

So you and Chriskels get the same intel? But what benefit is it for us to know in advance? This is why Rohr himself doesn't like revealing stuff until the did is done. think Ehizibue.

tbaba1234:
Gernot Rohr today in an interview with Colin Udoh.

"There was one problem with Phillip Billing. It was the agent of Billing who called me and he said that he was interested in playing for Nigeria cos he is not playing for the senior team of Denmark and so he wanted me to call him. I said i don't have his number and he gave it to me"

Billing just used Nigeria to gain the attention of Denmark. The guy agreed and then withdrew. This is one of the reasons, I do not like saying names until everything is done.

if Denmark hear dem fit no invite am last last.. hahaha

Subzero047:
Not new, he did the same to Huddersfield and then mocked them them in his twitter account

he used us, deceived us, but didn't rubbish us in the media

mofied
well yes, he said he heard rumors, and didn't know where it was coming from. so you are right somewhat

Subzero047:
So Billing used us, deceived us and on top of that rubbished us in the media

I am pained

Thanks tbaba!
I won't support any player who does these kind of things. They should be exposed and thanks Collin Udoh for putting it out.

tbaba1234:
Gernot Rohr today in an interview with Colin Udoh.

"There was one problem with Phillip Billing. It was the agent of Billing who called me and he said that he was interested in playing for Nigeria cos he is not playing for the senior team of Denmark and so he wanted me to call him. I said i don't have his number and he gave it to me"

Billing just used Nigeria to gain the attention of Denmark. The guy agreed and then withdrew. This is one of the reasons, I do not like saying names until everything is done.

Where is the source my brother? I am not disputing what you posted. But put the source so it is verifiable.

ChrisKels:
Rohr on how Billing played us in order to get the attention of Denmark.


Yes my Intel never lied to me

In continuation of our discussion, theGoodJoe yesterday, I had wanted to share a post on Akon's development efforts not only in Senegal, but sierra Leone and several other countries.
My friends, we need to change our mentality,. Let me start from my home front in the Delta State. There are several federal government projects still pending in Warri and environs just because of the feud existing between the ijaws, itsekiris and urhobos. If a project is put in place in a Itsekiri land, wouldn't Urhobos and Ijaws still stand to benefit? These tribes are all neighbors. there is no way development will not spread to the environs. And conversely, if projects where put in place in Urhobo land and Ijaw land... But look at the situation today, Warri that used to be the oil city and used to attract other investments is a dead zone.
For progress to happen we need to put sentiments aside. I am not saying it should be a free fall for anyone coming in to invest. Negotiations have to be made so it ends up a win-win situation.

Let me leave you with excepts from that post so I don't get banned a second time.

Akon, who is bringing electricity to 600 million people in Africa, is the exact definition of someone who gives back. The singer said he has been building his own futuristic city in Senegal that he will name Akon City. Nick Cannon had him as a guest on his Power 106 Nick Cannon Mornings where he discussed a wide range of topics including being involved in politics, wanting to run for political office, and helping to continue developing artists behind the scenes.

The St. Louis native plans on running the whole city he is planning on renewable energy sources. Akon says he will use his cryptocurrency, ‘AKoin” to build the city’s economy. He has dedicated his life to helping people in Africa. The Grammy-nominated singer had originally announced last year, his plans for a futuristic city that would be built on 2,000 acres of land that was gifted to him by Senegal’s President Macky Sall.

‘It’s Akon city. It’s all renewable, the Akon-tainment solar city. It’s all renewable. A real physical place, it’s going to have a real airport. It’s a 10-year building block so we’re doing it in stages,’ the singer tells Cannon in the interview.

Akon also has his own company, Akon Lighting Africa, a project started by him along with Samba Bathily and Thione Niang in 2014 that aims to provide electricity by solar energy in Africa. Since launching, Akon’s group has operations in 14 nations, including Guinea, Senegal, Mali, Niger, Benin, and Sierra Leone

if you are really good at making deductions you would have noticed from the flow of our argument that I wasn't insinuating that what I said was a fact. talking about fallacies, in one of your post you claimed that Keshi had an ego and he would have not been able to manage these set same crop of players. How do you come about that conclusion since you stated it as a fact? Fare enough, ain't it?
Which player in this current team is bigger than Mikel. Didn't Keshi manage Mikel? Dig out the facts about players he had management issues with. I'm waiting.

5inchdick:
For your mind, I dey here 24 hours to argue with you.
.......

You didn't make this statement but it birthed the argument. You kinda endorsed it with your reply.

I could swear I saw a statement giving direct analogies. it must have been written by someone else or you modified it. And I think you did modify them.

I agree with most (not all) of the points.

solonnachi:
Analysis: 5 Things Gernot Rohr Brought Into The Super Eagles, Number 5 Is Why Nigerians Love Him?
opera.com May 26, 2020 4:21 AM


The appointment of our Franco-German coach is something of a mixed understanding amongst football lovers in Nigeria.

He came like a fresh breath of air diffusing and slowly removing the offensive and decaying foul environment that had festered on in the Super Eagles for a long period of time. Gernot Rohr was a man on a mission when he took over the hot seat in the year 2016.

I call the position of the Super Eagles coach, a hot seat because every single football fans in Nigeria know that it is a position that can make or mar the coaching career of whoever is occupying it.

Thankfully Gernot Rohr gave his all and brought five noticeable things into the Super Eagles that has ensured his survival as Coach of one of the biggest team in Africa.

1.More On Merit And No More Excess Favouritism



Although over the years, Gernot Rohr has had his own favoured and constant regular members of the Super Eagles first team, but it has not taken away the fact that to enter the Super Eagles, it is all about merit!

Gone were the days when some players felt they own the national team whether they are doing well in their respective clubs or not.

Gernot Rohr came into the Super Eagles to change all that- if you are Under-performing in form especially at club level, chances are high you lose your place in the Super Eagles. Isn't this true?

2.All Round Consistent Football Pattern

Remember the days when the Super Eagles do not have a distinct and direct football pattern or play? We had to rely on many of the juggernauts or succinctly, superstars who will bail us out.



But Gernot Rohr changed all that by bringing into the team a regular football pattern of ferocious attack and disciplined defense mixed with quality football passing and movement.

Under Gernot Rohr, we played football more on the ground than blowing it into the air hoping for the best.

3.Seamless And Easy Transition

Gernot Rohr brought a seamless approach of transitioning from old to new. He showed Nigerians how to replace without displacing quality. I am talking about how Gernot Rohr facilitated the easy change of former players with quality ones.



From when Enyeama had an issue with the National team setup which brought fears to the mind of Nigerians on who will replace the experienced Goalkeeper- Gernot Rohr intelligently and slowly experimented with 4 Goalkeepers till he arrived at two obvious quality choices we have right now based on form in the mould of Uzoho and Maduka. True or not?

Look at our incredible vibrant midfield with the array of quality brimming all over the place, not to talk of our defence and attacking line.

4.Competition Everywhere In The Team

The Hallmark of any great team is the presence of quality competition in the respective positions. Save for one or two players in the Super Eagles, there is a very strong competition for places in the national team setup.

Everything is down to Gernot Rohr relentless effort to continuing searching and inviting the best of the best Nigerian footballers, mostly from overseas(Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, Ligue 1 and Bundesliga) which has drawn the ire of certain segments of Nigerian football fans.

But let us be honest, our local league is actually not reliable at the moment to produce the kind of quality players gracing the Super Eagles on a regular basis.



Do not get me wrong, I am an advocate of the Nigeria Professional League but let be honest with ourselves, most of the discovered foreign based Nigerian players are premium quality! Is this not the fact?



That is why we can bank on Joe Aribo of Rangers Football Club if Etebo is not performing or a Ramon Azeez. Imagine the massive competition in our attacking line- From Iwobi to Chukwueze, Desser, Osimhen, Iheanacho, Emmanuel and hopefully Bukayo Saka. And the Defence?- That one is full of serious competition giving Rohr good headaches in terms of selection.

That was the content Nigerians signed for, putting every players on his toes to appreciate the privileged opportunity of playing in the Super Eagles.

5.Building An Exciting Project For The Future



Gernot Rohr at the moment is well on course to creating and building one of the most exciting team in the annals of Nigerian football.

He definitely came with that template as we are gradually taking our rightful spot in African football as one of the most fearsome teams.

He has brought back that fear and respect for the Super Eagles. Teams now know our fearful team can tear them apart. Gernot Rohr project has made Nigerians to fall in love with the Super Eagles once again- 90% of Nigerians now look forward to when the Super Eagles will play.

Maybe that is why Nigerians love him and do not want him to leave yet?. His exciting blend of quality youth and experience in the Super Eagles can win us the Nations Cup and a respectable outing at the Qatar World Cup!

Is Gernot Rohr one of our best coach ever? I do not know, but certainly he is someone who has really done well for the Super Eagles. And renewing his contract is an imperative thing that NFF must do as quickly as possible.

From Opera News Hub

I'm not anti-Rohr. Let's get that out of the way so you can argue with a more balanced approach.

We are not arguing about who achieved their mandate or who didn't. I was only stating that the mandate giving always borders on trophies won and how far the coach can take the team in tournaments. On that note, Keshi has a better result clearly.

5inchdick:
Before Rohr's appointment, you know the state of the national team. Missing out on two AFCONs and was ranked among no footballing states in the ranking. What was Rohrs mandate? Get to the AFCON semis and Qualify for the World cup. Did he fail on that? Nah, he delivered the desired result.

go siddon bro

BascoVanVeli:
She is 100% right and u know it.

AKON IS BUILDING HIS OWN CITY IN SENEGAL
by Cedric 'BIG CED' ThorntonDecember 2, 2019950

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Sean “Diddy” Combs ran his city years ago, but Aliaune Damala Badara “Akon” Thiam is actually building his own! According to The Shade Room, the singer should have his own city built in 10 years.

Akon, who is bringing electricity to 600 million people in Africa, is the exact definition of someone who gives back. The singer said he has been building his own futuristic city in Senegal that he will name Akon City. Nick Cannon had him as a guest on his Power 106 Nick Cannon Mornings where he discussed a wide range of topics including being involved in politics, wanting to run for political office, and helping to continue developing artists behind the scenes.

The St. Louis native plans on running the whole city he is planning on renewable energy sources. Akon says he will use his cryptocurrency, ‘AKoin” to build the city’s economy. He has dedicated his life to helping people in Africa. The Grammy-nominated singer had originally announced last year, his plans for a futuristic city that would be built on 2,000 acres of land that was gifted to him by Senegal’s President Macky Sall.

‘It’s Akon city. It’s all renewable, the Akon-tainment solar city. It’s all renewable. A real physical place, it’s going to have a real airport. It’s a 10-year building block so we’re doing it in stages,’ the singer tells Cannon in the interview.

Akon also has his own company, Akon Lighting Africa, a project started by him along with Samba Bathily and Thione Niang in 2014 that aims to provide electricity by solar energy in Africa. Since launching, Akon’s group has operations in 14 nations, including Guinea, Senegal, Mali, Niger, Benin, and Sierra Leone.

Akon is also the owner of two successful record labels, Konvict Muzik and KonLive Distribution. The labels were responsible for signing acts such as Lady Gaga, T-Pain, R. City, Kardinal Offishall, and Red Café.

He is the first solo artist to hold both the No. 1 and No. 2 simultaneously on the Billboard Hot 100 charts, not just once, but twice.

--blackEnterpriseDotCom

There is a reason why coaches have mandates. I've never heard an SE coach get the mandate to win 20 number of matches out of 30 for example. It's always based on winning a cup or making a certain level of progress at tourneys. some kind of arguments is not just worth it.

benji93:
He could? Did he? Of course, he did. Rohr would be glad he can achieve what Keshi has. Do you not remember the crop of players Keshi won with, and to top it, we got to the knockout stage of the world cup, the following year. We have not had this crop of players in a long time, honestly. Most of them are young but we've got a talented bunch in our hands. I repeat Rohr better do something with this. And I actually do believe there are local coaches out there that can do as much as Rohr with this crop of players. He hasn't done much with the team anyway. By this I mean we will have to wait till he starts winning trophies to properly assess him. The thing is we would like to have a number of local coaches excelling, and acquiring some technical shrewdness, although at the moment good local coaches are very scarce. Thanks do our system.

As MJ would sing, "gotta be starting something". Who say make dem no start? But Balotelli has something in mind according to the quote. Na him get he money.

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To answer your question, why not Finidi --Lagos, Amunike --Kano etc

TheGoodJoe:
While we are waiting for all prospects, those here should start something. Finidi - Port Harcourt, Amunike - Owerri, Yobo - Port Harcourt, Kanu Owerri etc.

Does that sound like marginalisation or division?

yes plain logic in any business venture. Those who don't know the terrain will learn from others who have weathered it or at least learn from experts who have done studies. I am looking at all of them as prospective investors. There isn't really any need to divide them in two groups yet again, and have to pinpoint that one group should lead the way.

TheGoodJoe:
Which my position?

I have no position it is just plain logic.

If foreigners see homegrown footballers they know succeeding and making big marks in the African scene. Financially and also boosting developments. They will be motivated to look that way.

Plain logic.

hahaha.. even the homegrown ones won't they still need to seek expert advice?

TheGoodJoe:
You are just burying your head in an antagonistic notion. I repeat no one said it should be regulated. I wonder where your getting that bent idea from. It is not the point in any way.

If any of them wants to start, I bet you they will call their fellow Nigerian footballing friends for their take on things and advice. Why? Because, they know the Nigerian has more familiarity.

Does that sound like marginalisation?

I said, to motivate their foreign counterparts to do the same, not marginalise, the homegrowns need to show commitment.

I wonder why you have a problem with that.

There is a reason why I quoted your first line. Any serious entrepreneur (regardless of where they come from) who is considering embarking on a said biz venture knows well to do their due diligence and get as much knowledge as possible before deciding on whether to dive in or not. It's not in your position to set standards on who should go first.

TheGoodJoe:
No one said it is turn by turn or they can not take the lead. The fact is that you are turning your eyes from the motivational aspect.

These guys can not be motivated to do something they do not know about. They need the familiarity. If they want to, by all means, they are welcomed.

No one has said they should not come.

I am just saying those who know what is on ground, been part of the system and have an idea of the prospects should lead the way. Touch shining a light for the others to find their way in.

Nothing antagonistic about it.

Go ask many successful businessmen today they will tell you stories of their many losses. Investment should be open to all who can. The prudent ones with the thickest skin will make heads way anyway, many will be unsuccessful You want to regulate who should invest based on how successful you think they will be or whether they are homegrown or not.. una matter tire me. we have a long way to go.

TheGoodJoe:
There is what is called risk management and solutions around it. Heck, we have private folks running clubs in Nigeria and to an extent doing well.

To even go back a bit, I remember Bright Stars Football Club, a club that focused a lot on young players. It was like an academy but got chances to play some big clubs.

I remember their under 17 team ripping the then U17 National team, 4-0 at Calabar and raised some quality players like Akpan Brassey and Kelechi Osunwa.

If our local players have the zeal, they will find a way. Private investments are not much sabotaged as compared to those with public attachments.

We need local players looking into the possibility of using seeing the local scene as an investment opportunity.

Oruma lost two billion naira in a ghost oil deal. Imagine if he invested some into setting up a footie club, it would have gone a long way to benefit him.

So if they want to come tomorrow, you say wait first let our homegrown do it first? I don't get the logic. It's not a question of who can do it better now, or who understands the situation better. It is the turn by turn method you are trying to employ.

TheGoodJoe:
You want people that do not know their way around a place to set the pace?

Like you want Adarabioyo, Billing to come to Nigeria and start investing in Football?

The homegrowns have a bigger chance of doing this due to their affinity. For instance, Finidi George who is a Sharks Boy, a fan of Sharks when he was young, grew up to play for the club understands why we must correct the idea of dismantling such a footballing household name.

Finidi could invest in reviving the club and boosting it. It is only after that you can garner the interest of the foreigners.

@bolded. in other words, 'homegrown' should set the pace first?

TheGoodJoe:
A success in such a scheme can also open the way for the foreign borns who want to contribute one way or the other.

I always believed football has the power to transform Nigeria. Glad Balotelli is looking at it as an African team.

From education, early orientation, employment and economic growth. A fast rising local football can achieve this.

I didn't take offense oh. I just made an observation. I know 'we' will open our arms wide all over again if the whites planned to 'invest' in Nigeria

safarigirl:
I was not arguing anyone's Africanness, I was making jokes, first of all. I apologise if the humor was lost on you, taking offense seems to be a new thing here.


You advised me to stop explaining, so, I won't explain. Take it as you wish.

Interesting. So we are now arguing about the 'Africanness' of who invests in Africa. Okay let our 'homegrown' do it na. The discrimination is real.

safarigirl:
lol. Who should invest? The ones that will tell you:

"I have an African dad, some of my relatives are African, but I feel more European. I don't really know much of Africa outside what I see on the internet, Europe is my home. I appreciate the offer though"

My guy, banish that idea.

I have no time for round and round argument. It depends on what you value. I value World Cup performance above anything else.

modifed
And wait let Rorh win the AFCON first at least.

5inchdick:
And then I decide to define it by points gathered and lost in the FIFA rankings.

Follow the discussion. I have already asked the same question.

do4luv14:
The question is that, can they take a boldstep to call up, these same players, without any string attachedd?

Well If i define better result in terms of the WC and AFCON performances will what you said be a fact as you claim?

5inchdick:
He could also have performed poorly too. Fact is non gave us a better result.

Some Nigerian coaches will give us a better result with this same crop of players going by what they achieved with poor call ups. Stephen keshi for example.

5inchdick:
Which better result? Which Nigerian coach do you know who has given us a "better result"? Have you suddenly forgotten the era of "no minnows in football"? You give Nigerians coaches more credits than is deserved and you term an opposing view "ass-licking whites".

Yes, they are a product of the system/environment. It is indeed a Nigerian problem.

benji93:
This is a good point. But note that some of the bad selections our local coaches have made in the past(probably still on) have been in cahoot with NFF officials. In fact, it could have been a pre-requisite for keeping your job, after all, you are a local coach. We can ruin you. They may have done this with foreign coaches as well. These coaches cannot talk about these if they had been required to sign a non-disclosure prior to getting the job. The NFF usually chooses a local coach temporarily after they have messed up, to save face. Do they even have programs to bolster the know-how of individuals aspiring to become coaches, especially those that have attained some success at the youth level? At this point given the derelict state of our institutions, going elsewhere to get that rigorous, more technical training is just fine. I am sure if they want this for our locals through partnerships with successful footballing associations and probably clubs, they could get this done. No plan, nothing. We could continue depending on the expertise of foreign coaches(the better ones of course) for a while, as we try to get those showing promise some world-class training. It's quite painful. I sometimes want ot avoid deriding our local coaches. For all their faults, it's hard not to think, they may just not be armed enough to do better, courtesy of the system that produces them. A chameleon begets a chameleon.

well said!

AndSunGorilla:
Baba Akogun welcome back, I have actually missed you on this thread. Ever calm, full of knowledge, wisdom and yet so humble and modest. Welcome back again.

I forgot to add that I am impressed with Rorh's player selection/call ups.

Modified
Some Nigerian coaches will give us better results with this same crop. But will they make a good selection?
cc: Curtisaxel7

benji93:
As much as this is a decent result, which probably means he deserves a chance to continue, at least over one yeye Redknapp. , unless they find someone else technically better. I an not quite the Rohr fan, and while his flaws are obvious, the man has refused to notice them and readjust accordingly. If he cannot back that winning rate with an Afcon trophy, and subsequently get us to the knockout stage of the World cup in 2022, especially now that some young talented Nigerians are coming in, he would have underachieved. We have had enough 2nd and third place positions in the past by the same local coaches we labeled mediocre, so I don't know why it's impractical to label him as such. It's quite painful that very few or no Nigerian coach is technically sound enough to get us there. I hope some of these guys will go out there, if they haven's already, to get the training that is required(provided coaching is their forte). As someone else suggested, perhaps the growth of African coaches and their breakout into competitive positions have been stifled by the powers that be.

it's natural to find people forming cliques, sometimes for immediate family sef.

komekn:
very funny and what are you a VIRUS

People have opinions and perceptions there are no groupings here just individual opinions unless you are trying to create a supporters club for your preferred contributor, that would be very infantile thinking .