Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:03am On Feb 14, 2020 |
Safarigirl the assistant coach 1 is in charge of the CHAN team (SE team B) |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:02am On Feb 14, 2020 |
Madam Trabelsi has been in that managerial team. we need a spark. Something new to add something, not a learner. safarigirl: There are two assistants, Yobo is one, the second is a Tunisian, Nabil something. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:56am On Feb 14, 2020 |
Na the list be this  safarigirl: what is the Tunisian's job?
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:53am On Feb 14, 2020 |
Is there a new assistant on board? I only know if trainers and GK coaches. Assistants have always been Nigerians. safarigirl: what is the Tunisian's job? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:51am On Feb 14, 2020 |
I’m waiting for komekn to come and defend Yobo, because Yobo Na he main man  he go hear am |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:49am On Feb 14, 2020 |
Until I seee am for coaching bench safarigirl: i thought he was still there |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:49am On Feb 14, 2020 |
I defend the appointment of Yobo as our defender trainer. The NFF needs to go back to work and find us a sound assistant. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:46am On Feb 14, 2020 |
Which one u come dey bring Salisu into this matter na? Abi na me no dey keep up with the latest? safarigirl: nah, he isn't.
For now sha, Yobo has no immediate engagements, and until he messes up, I hold my peace.
Except a coaching license is a necessity, as in, without it, he will not be allowed to coach, I reserve my comment....besides, for all we know, man is working on it right now. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:45am On Feb 14, 2020 |
How are you sure he will? The burden of explanation rest on those who are backing Yobo, because he has nothing to show for it. It can go either way but I have more reason to believe he will not improve the team coaching wise than otherwise Danielnino00: How are u so sure ? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:37am On Feb 14, 2020 |
So Salisu is back in the team? Insult to injury safarigirl: Is it not Salisu that handles the CHAN team?
The Olympic Eagles? Are they not disbanded until further notice? Or did Imama qualify the team for Olympics?
There is no immediate need for Yobo's expertise in any position aside the 'assistant' role. And if it arises, we will see how it goes.
Even coaching certificate people dey do rubbish, so, until Yobo does his own, I honestly cannot be bothered about a certificate. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:25am On Feb 14, 2020 |
I hope the experience he gets from Rohr he will use it well when he handles our Olympic Eagles and CHAN team. Abi would he be assisting then? safarigirl: he is ASSISTING, not coaching.
An assistant, can be an understudy. He will not be in charge, at any point.
He can enroll for the license, while on the job, just like people enroll for Masters and even First Degrees, while in employment. Maybe he will be promoted to Head Coach, after getting his certificate.
This life is not that complicated |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:23am On Feb 14, 2020 |
no be attack, na just statement some of you are not comfortable with. This whole matter can be put succinctly -- Yobo is not qualified for the job Now that we have stated the fact, let's move on. safarigirl: I am not defending Yobo
I am asking the people attacking Yobo to give it a rest.
Buhari has proven how useless he is, so, I can castigate him. Yobo is yet to do anything to deserve castigation.
I was defending Buhari before he entered office, but after his woeful performance, I am castigating him. Same way, I am giving Yobo the benefit of doubt now, pending when he actually messes up
Like I have been saying, unless someone can provide evidence of Yobo messing up in a similar position, I have no issues with his appointment. Posterity will judge |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:20am On Feb 14, 2020 |
gbam @ bolded. The missing link has always been a quality assistant. This move for Yobo will not improve the team coaching wise. Mikel was the big bros the young team ran to, but that didn't guarantee success at the WC. Now we clamoring for another big bros in Yobo considering some of your arguments here. The question is what have we added to our tactical bench to move our football forward? tbaba1234: You are emphasizing my point
At the highest level of leadership, you might need extra training. Just like you need extra training to perform at the highest level of coaching. Yobo can coach young amateur boys but again, he is under qualified for the role of a senior team coach.
Mechanics undergo training to be mechanics, they do not just open cars and start fixing. They spend months learning to do the job. Even though involved in making traditional medicines are involved in some level of training before they start mixing concoctions.
Yobo has no coaching training whatsoever not CAF or UEFA.
Look at the difference in Manu Garba's team in 2013 when Amuneke was his assistant and in 2019. That is what a quality assistant can add to a team. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:13am On Feb 14, 2020 |
performance is above fine jersey. Let Nigeria reach quarter final for WC with a bad jersey and you think fans will not start buying more? We have population to our advantage we could achieve even more by performing better. safarigirl: Tanzania don't have a footballing history
I never said performance is irrelevant, I said they should go together. Nothing is above any
After all, if you qualify for World Cup finish and your jersey no fine, who go buy am? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:10am On Feb 14, 2020 |
connection get level na.. cry wherever you have audience lol safarigirl: If he cried, he must have done so to the right people. I did not see Yobo crying on Nairaland for the job, did you? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:08am On Feb 14, 2020 |
At least we qualified for the world cup. That's performance to some extent. If Tanzania like let them make the finest Jersey in the world and you think they will cash out like us? safarigirl: Nike cashed out on the last jersey sale, and most of the fans who bought the jerseys, never watched the team prior to getting the jersey.
The jersey sold its self |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:06am On Feb 14, 2020 |
Like Yobo did not cry for this job or at least have been working on getting the job. Let the guy express himself. That's the first step. safarigirl: like I said, he can try his luck the next recruitment phase.
You can't say you were never given a chance, when you never sought it to begin with. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:05am On Feb 14, 2020 |
you are castigating Buhari and defending Yobo. Choose one side. safarigirl: people go for leadership training seminars my guy, you cannot become the COO or CEO of any decent organization without proper training.
You have a defective leader, because he never got any proper training. He was just handed positions, same as the one before him.
Buhari is grossly underqualified for the position he occupies, but this is where we are.
He is not yet the coach, he is just an assistant. There are plenty of midwives in Nigeria without nursing degrees, hundreds of mechanics without engineering degrees and they fix cars well enough.
Thankfully, the role of an assistant coach is not a life and death role, like that of a medical practitioner.
Basically, football is not as important as all the professions you are comparing it to. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:04am On Feb 14, 2020 |
Above all, you build a brand by performance on the pitch. No matter how our jersey fine if we break fans heart, e no go sell safarigirl: Football is a brand my guy, just because you refuse to acknowledge the marketability of it, does not make it any less a brand.
Competitions need sponsors, and sponsors look at marketability. Everything is a business eventually, so, you need to always bring your best to it, from every angle.
Some of you are stuck in 1990-2005 football era, that is why you still have limited view of the sport. Football has gone beyond being a game for a bunch of loud, unruly, drunk men to enjoy at a bar, it has expanded to include a variety of persons, some of who care for the aesthetics, just as much as the game.
It is the same thing with most sports.
Winning is still top priority, but there is no reason why you can't look good while at it  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:01am On Feb 14, 2020 |
I can also make the argument that there are good players who attempted coaching but failed woefully, so Subzero047 deserves a chance. safarigirl: did yo u apply, they did not give you the job?
You have as much stake, how many caps do you have as a Nigerian international? Which trophy did you captain the team to?
When next you hear NFF is recruiting, drop your CV, I hear people still get lucky in job hunting.  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:59am On Feb 14, 2020 |
True talk.. at least we rep for WC. safarigirl: Nothing spoil at all, at least we go parade jersey, some other countries no go even get jersey to parade |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:58am On Feb 14, 2020 |
arrogance would always be a problem whether you have achieved a lot or not. Let's not leave the matter at hand. You've got to have a badge and experience to earn a position like the Assistant coach of SE. Talking about branding, how is this even good for a brand called SE?  At least I will understand if we lack Nigerian coaches with experience and badge. But this is not the case. Danielnino00: If Oliseh has achieved a lot in his managerial career, then his arrogance won't be much of a problem.. but for somebody who is still new in the business of coaching, he needs a lot of humility... |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:27am On Feb 14, 2020 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:27am On Feb 14, 2020 |
how old is that Odegbami sef abi na Oningbinde? Our elders are failing us big time. tbaba1234: I believe Odegbami's statements influenced the choice of Yobo. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:25am On Feb 14, 2020 |
Like Rorh has not drawn or lost against weak teams jihday: tactical ingenuity that can't beat Tanzania  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:23am On Feb 14, 2020 |
What is even the proof that he would succeed? His defenders are so confident that he would succeed based on how they feel and nothing concrete.. It could go either way. But I wouldnt take chances especially when we need a sound assistant to Rorh. edi287: I am not expecting him to fail - I just want things to be done the right way. The only way this would make sense is if Rohr personally asked for him(well acceptable at least). This just looks like NFF listening to Odegbami in thinking that Yobo is actually good enough to coach us to a WC. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:21am On Feb 14, 2020 |
Turn by turn mentality. Everyone deserves a chance without earning it.  safarigirl: I don't really care for what he has shown, like I said, I only care for results and as long as he has not shown me anything to prove otherwise, I cannot waste my time on negativity.
Everyone deserves a chance, no be everybody go get experience before dem get work, some people will get experience on the job, and not every experienced worker is actually good. At least, that much we have proven, with some of your listed examples.
You are already expecting him to fail, I have no expectations. I keep an open mind for now, and that is what a Super Eagles fan should do, instead of hoping the (assistant) coach fails. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:19am On Feb 14, 2020 |
if u be NFF chairman.. na handsome contest dem go dey do for pitch and bench safarigirl: Me, I'm just happy there is one less pot-bellied man, and one more baby boy on the bench, for now  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:18am On Feb 14, 2020 |
I will rather have an arrogant Oliseh as a coach then Yobo who is coming to learn a trade. Rohr don talk am say he go talk to Yobo about getting his coaching license.. Interesting, we defend hiring someone without experience or badge. Me sef I go take experience over badge. But this guy has nada. safarigirl: they go together  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:14am On Feb 14, 2020 |
The point is with Fortuna Sitaard he had to axe the more experience players and ran the team like an authoritarian. Something he couldn't do with SE without opposition. Of course you also expect that would affect the psychology of the team, an the results. His problem is more managerial than tactical. We are talking of a coach who was once named the best coach in the dutch 2nd tier. What has any of our coaches won in Europe? jihday: I don't understand your first line, did the NFF force players on him? Or did they tell him to start packing graduates of his brother's academy into the SE |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:06am On Feb 14, 2020 |
na coaching we dey talk now, not management safarigirl: did he not quarrel with the club as well?
Somebody that carry trouble from his village  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:05pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
He proved it at club level where he was able to coach on his own terms, and we all know how that ended. For Nigeria, he had to be a good manager as well to perform well. jihday: sadly he couldn't prove it, couldn't get out of the group in Chan, we struggled to draw Tanzania away from home. I'm not sure I'll agree he's a good coach |