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He don hit woodwork abi.
make i watch the match

Eartquake1:
Abraham is really up and running

Ligue 1

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Lille 2-1 Nantes

Victor Osimhen
WhoScored Rating: 8.35 (MOTM)
4 Total Shots (2 on target; 2 GOALS)
26 Touches
11 Passes (73% Success)
1 Key pass
1 Dribble (4 Attempted)
1 Aerials won (6 Attempted)
1 Tackle
2 Clearances

Random selected MRI testing was done for the 2009 U17 class. I cannot defend their ages based on the fact that the MRI testing was not done on all of them. But today, the situation is significantly improved with compulsory MRI testing at various stages leading to the U17 WC, although not perfect.

komekn:
Check Omeruo pictures in 2009 are age 15 and check him now. What do you notices very little change over 10 years including height.

Go and look at Iwobi, Ejaria, Ojo, Onomah, Iorfa, Fikayo at 15 and see the difference.

Ajagun, Omeruo, Kayode, etc are from the set where anything goes whatever you declared is what you are. I remember when Fortune Chukwudi was alleged to be over age his defence was " Na only me "

Or better still look at Neymar and Coutinho at that time.

France should be the next stop for our lads, after Belgium. No need going to Turkey to waste time lol

Bolowolowo:
Apparently Onyekuru is in France as we speak to complete his move

See below you will find Joe Aribo's positions in 16/17, 17/18, 18/19, and 19/20 respectively

forgiveness:
Aribo is never an AMF.

Bright start Osimhen. Amuneke’s U17 2015 class is coming good.

I'm just saying we don't have that culture of excellence. Not saying it never happens in other fields. The kind sudden money when they come from sports sha, can easily get into a man's head coming from a country when they promote, "I better pass my neighbor". Many don't challenge the best in the world but compare themselves to one neighbor for their area.

Humility017:
but how come you see some Nigerians from even poor and average families... so bag first class and various academic awards and distinctions when they're opportune to leave the shores of Nigeria for schooling abroad...?

the truth is anyone who is self driven and goal oriented will always make progress irrespective of wherever he finds himself...

some Nigeria players are not self driven....
Equaveon made reference to during their time how you'll have to train extra hours and give no sleep to your eyes all because you don't wanna loose your place in the SE set up.....

have you ever watched CR7 personal trainings?
if you've done...you will know that some of these exceptional footballers will see and enjoy watching work extra hard to be where they're today....

where you're coming from is not an excuse...neither should you allow it stop you.

talent is simply not enough

everything na upbringing.. The Nigerian environment does not encourage this. You can't expect them to just change mindset as soon as they land abroad

Humility017:
Marcus Rashford on learning from the best
“I still watch clips of loads of players - Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar.
"If they’ve done something at the weekend I’d want to know how they’ve done it.
“Messi’s natural abilities are crazy. It’s a joy to watch him."

tell me why will such a player not improve.... I doubt if half of Nigeria players follow this path... many on getting to Europe start to club and engage in wild party and forget about their careers others are just comfortable being a mediocre and don't wanna contend for the best...

this is simply phenomenal for a young lad

Did you follow the link? you are talking about a coefficient based on last 5 seasons. I'm speaking of that based on last season alone. Both are from the same source. Have you even visited the official site?

andrew444:
Google is there for you

Can't say more

oga read very well.

UEFA's coefficient rates the leagues based on the past 5 seasons. But it also breaks it down season by season. I am going by the last season.
check well

andrew444:
Your coefficient is wrong ,Spain is number 1

You are also rating dutch league ahead of Russia ,ok o

Thank you

I was watching this game at the early stages. I later abandoned the match not knowing Samu was in the bench ol

tbaba1234:
Samu scored against Bologna in Preseason.

Kingsley Michael started the match.

The main question is do we need RB reinforcement in this team? The purpose is to always improve the team. If we were fully satisfied with what we saw at the AFCON then there will be no room for any argument. First, let's start with our bench. Is our RB options in the bench good enough? If yes, how about those that were placed on standby?
I am not speaking of a 22 man SE team here. I'm thinking 30/35. So there is definitely room for additions/replacements. We must promote continuous competition, meaning new faces who deserve it should be welcome. Let's remove all sentiments. The second question is, is he Nigerian, and is he ready to play for Nigeria today? If you have a son you would treat him as your son, regardless of the past, just as every father has failed in one way or the other. Nigeria as a country being the father, analogously.

charlesemeka85:
His father wanted to use him to hold the nff to ransome. Actually he met with Rohr but by then was demoted by wolves to their u23 team. There is no way Rohr would have called him up when he wasn't seeing playing time in wolves then and on the process we got the likes of Aina and ebuehi who showed more interest playing for us

I will be Posting a SE HOPEFULS BEST XI every week. This will be a cumulative team of the season.

Here are the guidelines for players to make the team:
A. The player is [still] eligible to represent Nigeria with or without a FIFA clearance
B. The player is not in the current SE set up (which I will define as the last preliminary list released by Coach Rohr)
C. Players will make the team based on accumulation of points from the start of the current season
D. Players' performances will be weighed based on UEFA coefficient ranking of the league they play.

Due to lack of any authoritative ranking for second-tier leagues, I will pitch the second division of the top 4 leagues (Based on UEFA SEASON 18/19 coefficient, England, Spain Germany, and Italy in that order) at par with the Netherlands (ranked 7), Belgium (ranked 8 ), Russia (ranked 9), and Scotland (ranked 10), respectively.
Hence, the modified rankings to accommodate the aforementioned second-tier leagues would be:
1. Premier League
2. La Liga
3. Bundesliga
4. Serie A
5. Primeira Liga
6. Ligue 1
7. Eredivisie || Championship
8. Jupiler Pro League || LaLiga II
9. Russian Premier League || Bundesliga 2
10. Scotland Premiership || Serie B

For the complete UEFA Association Club Coefficients ranking for 18/19 season visit:
https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/seasoncountry/#/yr/2019

E. Available statistics will be taken into consideration as well as video clips. My submissions will be subjective to some extent. So view it as my opinions as it's almost impossible to come up with a perfect standard due to the difficulty of finding some important player performance stats and videos in some leagues.

Chima Okoroji has clocked 180 minutes after two rounds of matches in the Bundesliga 2
Here is a left back we need to be watching keenly.

The la Liga have made omeruo a better player. If Success has stayed in the la Liga for 3 seasons, he would have been a beast by now. Some leagues are not just good for certain player’s development. agents should look at their clients as long term investments.

I've not seen Etebo excel as #10 under Rorh, so I'm not expecting Rorh to see him as a substitute to Iwobi.

somehow:
Meaning he should play 10 for us?

I'm not rubbishing Omeruo. But we are talking about players from that same set. Being in Chelsea means they can always farm him to relatively better teams. He had better opportunities for development compared to Ajagun. And that does not mean that Ajagun couldn't have pulled it off despite all odds.

charlesemeka85:
That's not an excuse. Don't make it sound like Chelsea helped omeruo's career. Ahmed Musa started his European adventure in lowly rated vv venlo and from their moved to greater things by playing for Russian giants cska Moscow and earning a big money move to leicester

Moses simon started in Croatia, moved to Belgium and played in laliga for levante last season. Now rumour has it he is about to sign for Nantes in the French Ligue 1

Samuel kalu followed the same route as Simon did and earned move to French Ligue 1 where he plays for bordeux

Anderson esiti started from Portuguese 2nd teir, joined estoril in Portuguese top flight, moved to gent in Belgium and today plays for Greek champions Paok. He almost moved to levante last season but his club in Belgium blocked the move.

Okereke who is painting Belgian league with goals today stated in regional leagues in Italy just to mention a few.

Dont make it seem as Chelsea did omeruo a favor by signing him. They saw something in him which they liked and he had to work hard to earn it and get where he is today. There is no free food in free town

Right!


Etebo also as AML/AMR

somehow:
SS don't control the flow of play, AM does. You know we are talking about 10 (AM) here. Iheanacho is an SS but can't do well as AM because he's not a good passer.

Etebo has always been known to pounce on loose balls during Siasia's time. Did well as SS but right now he hardly does well with passes when he's used in the middle.

Holds the ball longer and not a fast thinker when it comes to distribution.

So in summary, we only have one 10 for now and no need using him there. Let Rohr get another AM. We pay him for this.

I don't want to argue age matter as long as they were all subjected to MRI testing. Else I go follow komekn say all naija bred players are most likely age cheats.

ChrisKels:
Being same set doesn't mean they are same age. Omeruo was plucked from the academy, while Ajagun was a seasoned player with dolphins, Omeruo has added feet to his height while Ajagun hasn't added even an inch since 2009.


Ajagun is an old man

BUT and IFs
The point is Omeruo hasn't had a great club career until recently. He couldn't cut it in the championship. He did okay in Turkey and pretty well in Spain though. Omeruo has had far more opportunities because Chelsea is his parent club. Different circumstances compared to Ajagun. It's arguable they are in the same age range. It's not like young players never played in the NPFL

charlesemeka85:
Omeruo have improved alot since playing in laliga in the colors of leganes who just signed him up permanently.

He had all it takes to be rated among the best in his position in Africa but running to turkey on loan stunted his development. Notwithstanding he has learnt from his mistake which is why he insisted on going to play on loan with Leganes even when Turkish clubs offered him more money to have him on loan last season.

The only league Rabiu has performed well is Slovenia.

charlesemeka85:
Because he played for a more ambitious team who were title contenders and have been regulars in the Europa league then. I doubt if ajagun can make the grades in gent as of then.

AS an AM he can deputize Iwobi. Will he fare well? We will never know until he is invited. But first things first. Let him knock on SE's door this season

charlesemeka85:
No one doubts that but is he better than what we have in our disposal now?

Omeruo and Azeez no be the same set? Isn't Omeruo our best defender today? And how has Omeruo's club career been?

ChrisKels:
Forget sentiments bro, that guy is an old man and he's passed his prime. Can u see he didn't add an inch from his height at the U17s? He has remained same height for more than 10years now

good! that's why I told you earlier there are other factors why players like Aribo etc don't play predominantly as an AM
Ajagun may as well find himself in a similar situation if he gets a chance in the championship.

forgiveness:
I don't know but he is doing it in a better league.

Of course, he can play other roles.

well you cannot be too sure. He has the competitive experience. But maybe he would thrive as an AMR in the championship. it's not like Eze plays mostly as an AM

charlesemeka85:
Now you are making sense. I bet you ajagun can't make Charlton's bench let alone the likes of fulham, leeds united, westbrom, Boro and co

I wouldn't say he is diminishing until he stops performing. Let's remove sentiments. He had a very good game today. Let's see about the subsequent rounds

ChrisKels:
Of course I knew these things before now. Ajagun isnt anything less than 36, na diminishing returns my guy dey now

Will Ajagun get a consistent run as an AM in the championship?
If he is not the preferred choice in that position, he will have to show he is good enough to fill another role, else play second fiddle to the first choice AM. But we cannot say until he gets such opportunity.

forgiveness:
Because second tier leagues are meant for teams not good enough for the main league

Let's talk about the players that are in the team now. Because Eze is not in the set up.
If Iwobi doesn't play as an AM, will Rohr settle for Etebo there? Well, on a second thought, I wouldn't put it past Rohr

charlesemeka85:
Rohr won't try him there because iwobi is better than etebo in that position. If Rohr needs a back up for Alex in the 10 role the best bet is ebere Eze. Even Rohr will prefer deploying iheanacho in that role than inviting ajagun

Well relatively speaking, I know what you mean. But that coefficient thing cannot be followed strictly because the championship and other very good second-tier leagues are not taken into consideration. However I see you point that even the likes of Eze, Aribo etc are usually used more in other positions. Ajagun plays predominantly as an AM. But that could be due to several factors.

forgiveness:
Of course it's not but Belgium Pro League remains a top league as long as no Nigerian is playing on that position and at that level consistently.

I hope you understand my point now.

Ajagun may not develop to be a better player, but that doesn't mean he cannot feel the void that currently exist in the SE even if it means temporarily.

charlesemeka85:
And who said Abraham is not better than oshimeh. Mind u I no follow for ur kind wey dey use sentiment follow players.

The only attractive teams in Belgium are Anderlecht, standard liege, club brugge, Genk and gent others na nonsense. Young players use the Belgian top flight as a spring board to bigger leagues an teams in Europe.

No good young player in the Belgian top flight remains there after a season or 2. Belgium and Holland is a breeding field for scouts from top leagues in Europe who are hunting for young talented players

You brought up Etebo. Rohr actually tried him there. No player has excelled under Rorh as an AM except Mikel and Iwobi.

charlesemeka85:
Rohr won't try him there because iwobi is better than etebo in that position. If Rohr needs a back up for Alex in the 10 role the best bet is ebere Eze. Even Rohr will prefer deploying iheanacho in that role than inviting ajagun

Will Rohr play him there? That's the question. AS far as Rohr playing style is concerned Etebo will not thrive well as an AM. We have just one AM in that team --Iwobi.

charlesemeka85:
Oga say the truth and shame the devil. Etebo is an all rounder whose natural position is playing behind a striker but because of how versatile he is played as a 10 severally for warri wolves and feirense before moving to Spain. He also can play as a striker,central midfielder and winger as well