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Mathematically speaking it is assumed any team can win 100-0 even if it’s impossible unless the match is fixed

Oasis007:


Winning the last Match will only give them 3 Points, their Goals deficit compare to others is enough to confirm their Relegation.

We have all already agreed to that.

Oasis007:


No need to further this Discourse, coz it's already all over the News. Stoke City are in the Championship for the next Season officially.

You are right. Hence, West Brom is relegated as well.

Modified
But that’s taking into consideration Southampton winning this game

BascoVanVeli:
Don't forget Huddersfield on 35 points because they have Man City, Chelsea and Arsenal left.

Sir the key word is mathematically. See Icon4s post as well

Oasis007:
Stoke City is still officially relegated coz they only a get a Match to play while Swansea has 2 Matches remain, but Westbrom still has a Shot till next Fixtures.

Other Factors like H2H and Goals Differences have also officially relegated Stoke City. So officially Stoke City is in the Championship already.

Sir I admitted I could be wrong but I needed u to show me. Your evidence was simply not good enough since we all could simply look at the table and fixtures and determine what it is. It’s not complicated. It only took me less than a minute to realize this.

BascoVanVeli:
Sorry that I am not a math teacher but the fact remains that u were wrong. The Premier league channel stated it was a must win and the same channel confirmed that stoke was relegated, I was only responding to your claim that they could have made a mistake just because CNN made one earlier in the week.

That’s the point.

Modified
At least they would have still been in mathematically

Icon4s:
Merely looking at the table alone it will appear Stoke are not relegated. Why they are out is because Southampton and Swansea are facing each other in an outstanding fixture. Were they to meet different opponents and both should lose it would have been a different story for Stoke.

Lol. I would personally burn that red carpet . Guy stop playing.

solonnachi:
Something tells me that Pinnick has met Tammy in closed doors and who knows, the boy could turn out for Nigeria.

You are late. But let me be sure I get your logic. What if Southampton don’t win today?

Oasis007:


Seem Dudes are checking on a different EPL Table, coz officially Stoke City is relegated. They've played 37 Matches out of possible 38 with 30 Points.

Swansea has only played 36 Matches and presently with 33 Points, while West Brom has 31 Points from 37 Matches.

Mathematically if Southampton wins today, West Brom also would be officially relegated, thus the final Battle for the last Team to be relegated will be between Swansea and Southampton.

Oga u are basing your conclusion on the word that was out there. The koko is the modified. That’s why they needed the win, and that why the word was out there in the first place. It’s very necessary to ask the question, “why?” Now u know. Thanks to analytical minds like Mickael2 and some of us.

BascoVanVeli:
It is very impossible especially since the word before the game was that stoke needed a win to even stay alive and almost every sports outlet has confirmed it so it is not a case of a mistake.

Osimhen is injured. Tammy will most likely never play for Nigeria.

Obi, Onyekuru and Alampasu could make the list.

Modified
And maybe Simy. Lookman could be considered, who knows?

solonnachi:
COULD THESE PLAYERS BE IN ROHR'S 35 MAN LIST?
1. Bazee S. Noah
2. Samuel Kalu
3. Samuel Nwankwo
4. Maduka Okoye
5. Dele Alampasu
6. Vincent Enyeama
7. Joel Obi
8. Brown Ideye
9. Henry Onyekuru
10. Success Isaac
11. Jordan Ibe
12. Kevin Akpoguma
13. Osimhen
14. Sheyi Ojo
15. Tammy Abraham
16. Ovie Ejaria

Fingers crossed. Anything can happen... We are waiting for you Rohr.

Actually U try well well. It’s far better than saying it was on some screen. That’s not enough to convince me.

Mickael2:
I see am late no vex

I’ve alreasy modified it. Look at my post again

Mickael2:
here is the mathematics.

Swansea will play Southampton and Stoke. Southampton are on 32 points and Swansea 33 so in that match if Southampton wins they go to 35 points, impossible for Stoke, if they draw Swansea will move to 34 points also impossible for Stoke and if Swansea wins they will go to 36 points also impossible for Stoke

Usually I have to see with my kro kro eye before I conclude. God give every man brain.

Icon4s:
Bros, na so o.

Because no Oyinbo man talk am then it is absolutely correct.

Looking critically at the table even Huddersfield on 35 points can still relegate and Stoke on 30points can still survive.

It’s not impossible. The other day, it was written boldly on CNN that Marseille takes on Arsenal in the Europa Cup final.
Abi oyibo no dey make error?
It’s very unlikely Stoke will not be relegated. But you are free to look at the table and prove me wrong mathematically, then I will accept

Modified
Swansea has a game on hand with Southampton.. win lose or draw will condemn Stoke. On that ground, Stoke is relegated.!

BascoVanVeli:
So u guys know more than the premier league channel that put a big R by stoke? After the match it was printed across the screen "Relegated from the premier league"

Mathematically? No

BascoVanVeli:
Yes they are.

It’s a good tally no doubt relatively speaking. I’ve already made a point that the player must have other strengths besides his height. Our scouts will do their job as regards determining what he can bring. They should have access to tapes etc.
I wouldn’t go by Solace’ opinion alone.

BascoVanVeli:
At the same time we want the on form players in the team. If u look at the bottom half in any league 6 goals is a good tally for a striker.

GBAM

tbaba1234:
I voted " The Spirit of Unity" for Nigeria... That was the only one that sounded decent.

Very well said my sister. “Slogans don’t get to play ball” but team spirit is the driving force.

safarigirl:
Finally unbanned.....; D



This is the part 2:



Germany

GIB MIR 5
HIGH FIVE

Hahahahahahahahaha.......


Iceland

Látum drauminn verða að veruleika
LET'S MAKE OUR DREAM COME TRUE


Chai!



Japan

‟感動と幸せ”を世界の子供たちへ！⚽
We take emotion and happiness to children in the world.


Are they an NGO? Do they run a puppet show? Are we still talking about a football team?



Korea Republic

오천만의 심장, 하나로 뛰다
50 Million Hearts Run as One

They better run faster than a race car


Mexico

HOY HAY CIELITO LINDO PORQUE MÉXICO SERÁ CAMPEÓN
TODAY IS CIELITO LINDO BECAUSE MEXICO WILL BE CHAMPION


Wawuu....a bit too long, isn't it? Dries up in the mouth before you can even finish saying it


Morocco

المغرب بلدنا..الروح الرياضية شعارنا..كأس العالم حلمنا
Morocco is our Country, Fairplay is our slogan, World Cup is our dream


If Fairplay is already their slogan, someone obviously wasted time coming up with this one



Panama


HÉROES A BORDO
HEROES ON BOARD.


Heroes, more important than babies on board



Portugal


O PASSADO É GLÓRIA, O PRESENTE É HISTÓRIA
THE PAST IS GLORY, THE PRESENT IS HISTORY
NO MAR DESCOBRIDORES, EM CAMPO CONQUISTADORES!
DISCOVERERS IN THE SEA, CONQUERORS IN THE FIELD!
O FUTURO ESTÁ À VISTA, É TEMPO DA PRÓXIMA CONQUISTA!
THE FUTURE IS IN SIGHT, IT'S TIME FOR THE NEXT CONQUEST!


Someone is obviously more interested in Portugal's history as colonial masters, than their history as a footballing nation[/b]


Senegal

IMPOSSIBLE N'EST PAS SÉNÉGALAIS
IMPOSSIBLE IS NOT SENEGALESE

[i]So, impossible must be a Nigerian then? Or English? Somebody, help us with the Nationality of Impossible


Serbia

Izaberi svoj put do pobede!
CHOOSE YOUR OWN RIDE TO VICTORY

So, can I get a Ferrari?


Spain

UNIDOS, LOS SUEÑOS SE CUMPLEN
UNITED, DREAMS COME TRUE

I'm sure De Gea would love this one



Switzerland

FOUR LANGUAGES, ONE NATION

Just four? Mtchew


Tunisia

يا روسيا جاوك النسور. يد وحدة ملاعبية و جمهور
Russia here comes the eagles hand in hand players and fans

I feel bad for Tunisia...not only is this cheesy, it would also look terrible on a bus


Uruguay

EL CAMINO ES LA RECOMPENSA
THE WAY IS THE REWARD

This looks like a subtle jab at Suarez



All in all, there was zero creativity in these slogans. Countries like Iran, Panama, Russia and Sweden had a better lot than most, however, Saudi Arabia were the luckiest

Saudi Arabia

فرسان الصحراء
Desert Knights
الصقور الخضر .. قدّها وقدود
You Can Do it…. Green Falcons
معاكم يا صقورنا الخضر
With you.. Our Green Falcons


Simple and straight to the point.... Thankfully, Slogans don't get to play ball

In the first place Agu is not even highly regarded by his current coach. THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE. What you would have asked me is to give a more appropriate example. Invitation and dropping of a player are two different things entirely.

I wouldn’t use the term double standard the way you just used it, but it’s English everyone has a right to express themselves the way they want.

forgiveness:
Your example of Agu and Simy is an epitomy of double standard.

It is double standard when you compared Simy who is yet to kick a ball for the national team with Agu who already had his chances.

It is justice to drop Agu because he has been given the chance but injustice to drop Simy without kicking a ball.

Why do national team coaches send scouts though the stats are already there?

Modified
Following your argument, with stats you don’t need scouts. Why do we need Agali and the others when every Chioma, Haija, and Tope can jump on the computer?

forgiveness:
Yes! The coach can drop any player but that is after the player must have been tested by the same coach to see what he brings to his team.

The National team is not like club you buy players that suits your pattern, it's what you have that determines how you play.

Even clubs like Chelsea will not buy the coach his preferred players and the coach is expected to perform or get out.

My point remains that logical conclusion must be made after the player performing well in his club fails to suit the coach pattern of player. EOD

Okay tell me what’s double standard about it. Let me assume you know the meaning of your claim.

forgiveness:
Look at you! You know how I think? You be God?

That example is floored with double standard. Full stop.

oga yaya Toure would have been dropped any day by Pep, is that injustice to the player? It’s for the general good of the team. The coach knows how he wants to play and the kind of players— based on their attributes — that would execute that winning formula.

If u can’t get my point just forget it.

forgiveness:
Which thinking too much?

You said and I quote 'Coaches don't see it as an injustice to' A PLAYER....... '.

That is obviously generalization which is totally unacceptable.

Except you admit you erred big time in that part to have generalized.

I know how you think, which is why I had to repeat “for example” twice. It’s unfortunate you didn’t get my point after all.

forgiveness:
Your analogy is floored in regards to Agu because the coach didn't ignore his performance in his club and refused to invite him to the National team just because he 'THINKS' Agu can't bring anything to the team. Rather, based on his performance in his club, the coach invited and tried him in his preferred role for him and the world to see if he could bring something to the team before he arrived at a logical conclusion devoid of logical errors in drawing conclusions from mere assumptions based on 'THINKING' or 'THOUGHT' which is inconsequential inconsistent with established fact. That is the point.

So, that should be the factor to invite Simy and others doing well before you hang them with mere 'THINKING'

Oga the context has already been set. You were thinking too much into the statement.

forgiveness:
Can you explain the bolded?

It wasn’t a generalization. That was your interpretation. If Rohr drops Agu — for example — just because he is not adding much to the team, despite him being highly regarded by his club coach (and this is an example), would that amount to injustice?
The question is does Rohr feel Simy can bring something to the team? That’s left for him to decide. It’s not a question of dropping Simy since he’s not been in the scheme of things. At the end of the day, personal ambition is secondary. If any player is really good individually, that player also needs to be really good working with the team.

forgiveness:
Then you should not have generalized by lumping all players together.

If Simy's case is what you meant, I can understand to some extent but I don't agree a coach should drop any good player because he 'thinks' the player can't bring anything to the team. Mbanu!

However, Simy and those doing well should be given the chance to prove themselves.

Hahaha. Your eye don see

safarigirl:
So I just went to the FIFA website to see the slogans and I agree with Joebie, they are all HORRIBLE.


I will be listing some of my favs that particularly stand out for their ridiculousness

ARGENTINA

MAGIA EN MOVIMIENTO
Magic on the move

Really? Magic? Is the Argentine team a circus? Are we going to a magic show?


Australia
ONLY THOSE WHO SHARE OUR PASSION UNDERSTAND OUR PRIDE

This is so plain, so dispassionate. Nothing here should give anyone pride, it can be said with a straight face


Belgium (Nothing is Good here)

Be Fast Be Good Be Belgium !

This one sounds like the lines from a Car advertisement. I mean, you can remove Belgium there and put Hyundai and it would make more sense

From Belgium with Love

I dunno, is it a wedding card? Is it someone's birthday? Besides, isn't that the title of a movie? Only, it's From Paris, not From Belgium


Red Devils on a mission

First team I would think of is Manchester United, obviously!


Brazil


A PÁTRIA DE CHUTEIRAS
THE NATION OF SOCCER CLEATS


This is just ridiculous...nuff said


Colombia


¡AQUÍ VIAJA LA SELECCIÓN QUE NOS LLENA DE ORGULLO EL CORAZÓN!
HERE GOES THE TEAM THAT FILLS OUR HEARTS WITH PRIDE!


Sounds like they pulled this out of a Children's book, like "Here goes Poppy, the Party Pig"


Costa Rica

UN EQUIPO, UN PAÍS, UNA PASIÓN, VAMOS SELECCIÓN
ONE TEAM, ONE COUNTRY, A PASION, GO TEAM


This one is painful to read, because it would have been perfect without the addition of "Go Team" that line just spoilt the rest of it


Croatia

SRCEM DO VRHA!
To the top with heart

I mean...Really?!


Egypt

الملايين
We're back after years, to make millions happy

من قلب الجليد سنعود فائزين.
From the heart of snow we shall return with victory

لما نقول الفراعنة الدنيا تقوم تسمعنا
When you say Pharaohs, the world must get up and listen

NOTHING is good here, it is sad that after 27 years, Egypt returns to the WC with shiit slogans that can't even ginger a six-year old. That last one is particularly daft...why will we get up and listen? Is this football or a music concert? Listen to what? Vuvuzelas?


England

SEND US VICTORIOUS

I know the team can be a bore....but nobody deserves such a bland slogan



France

GAGNER POUR QUE LE RÊVE DEVIENNE RÉALITÉ
Win, To make the dream comes true


Let us ignore the obvious grammatical blunder....this is horrible........


PART 2 in a bit

Salah’s quality is not debatable. But Simy’s is.
6 goals in a season is not impressive and to make matters worse he just started scoring. A coach may not be convinced enough even with his OK goals per minute ratio. There is no guarantee he would have banged goals if he was given more minutes earlier in the season. Seeing something is believing. Anything else Is just an assumption. And to add to that if what Solace said is true it’s a typical reason why many coaches may turn their back on a player — for the general good of the team.

forgiveness:
For instance, Salah is currently the best player in the English league but if the coach 'THINKS' he can't bring what they need in the team and decided not to invite or play him, is it righteousness?

Coaches don’t see it as injustice to a player if they THINK the player cannot bring what they need in the team. But I’m not going to run with what Solace has just said. There must be other strong points in Simy besides his height.

forgiveness:
Any player doing well in Europe should be given a chance to prove himself.

He doesn't fit or fit into the system of play is a way of giving a dog a bad name in order to hang it.

I don't believe in such ideology.

Though he may be right about his lack of pace, clumsy foot work and almost zero dribbles but he should be tried.

I noticed he lacks pace in one of the YouTube he scored twice in the match. The second goal showed he is lacking in pace because he would have scored the goal by racing towards the goalkeeper after the pass he received placed him ahead of the last defender but due to lack of pace two defenders still cut up with him and blocked his target hence the need for him to turn them an place the ball in the net. He did well by using his brain but he can't do that with better defenders.

However, he and those currently doing well should be given a chance to prove himself. That's all.

I’ve not watched Simy play, so what can I say?

TheSuperNerd:
Can Simy resolve Super Eagles goalscoring headache?
By Solace Chukwu, Correspondent


https://images.performgroup.com/di/library/GOAL/75/13/simy-crotone-juventus-serie-a_1hgymgrgbiuau1dn3i16sgaxpp.jpg

The Crotone striker's rich vein of form has made many sit up and take notice, with the Mundial just over a month away


One would think that an event as huge as the World Cup couldn't possibly creep up on you, and yet it has. In five weeks, Russia and Saudi Arabia will set the ball rolling in Moscow.

It'll be three days later till Nigeria kick off against Croatia, but the fact remains that it's already at the door. Yet, unlike one might expect, there remain a number of question marks around the Super Eagles squad.

World Cups are often considered the culmination of a cycle, four years of preparation building up to one month of execution. It wasn't until 2016, though, that Gernot Rohr came on board and kicked off his rebuild of the national side. As such, Nigeria has pretty much only had half the preparation time—it is understandable that it does not have everything figured out.
One such area where clarity seems to be lacking is in the centre-forward position.

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Rohr largely favoured a 4-2-3-1 throughout qualifying, and while he has experimented with the team's shape in recent friendlies, that is arguably his most trusted scheme. The band of attacking midfielders is set in stone: John Obi Mikel is the captain and fulcrum, while Victor Moses and one of either Moses Simon or Alex Iwobi occupy the wide positions. But the identity of the standard bearer up top is in a bit of flux.

The recent friendlies against Poland and Serbia have sparked some concern, as the Super Eagles struggled mightily in attack, and only found the back of the net once in both games: a debatable penalty won and converted by talisman Moses.

While some of that can be explained by a more complex circumstance than simply the identity of the nominal striker, that sudden sense of uncertainty has led to a number of different candidates being thrown about for a late entrance into the World squad.
Enter Simeon Nwankwo , known simply as 'Simy'. The Crotone striker, at 25, has come into a rich vein of form in recent weeks, on target five times in his last five games to aid the Sharks' push to avoid relegation. It is inevitable, then, that his name has come up.

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However, there are a few caveats, one of which is that his total tally isn't all that impressive.

He's scored six and assisted once in Serie A this term, and as stated earlier, five of them have come inside the past month. It is worth noting, though, that for long periods, he was not involved to any great degree: he's only played 930 minutes of league football, and so is contributing to a goal about every 130 minutes. That's respectable enough.
It does raise two further concerns though, one of which is a germane debate on the merits of form leading into major tournaments.

It is something of a paradox: while consistency over an extended period is invariably a greater measure of a player's quality, form - especially on the eve of major tournaments - might be more useful, seeing as a World Cup only runs for a month.

So, do you favour a better player or a hotter one?

The other thing to consider is exactly why it is that a player capable of scoring five in five and infusing life into Crotone's survival push has been in the cooler for so long. To an extent, the answer to this also is the greatest caveat re:Simy - as a footballer, he is not particularly impressive.

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His standout quality is his frankly ridiculous frame. He stands at 6ft 6in, and could conceivably be one of the tallest outfield players were he to make it to the World Cup. Naturally, such a profound advantage would make him a handful and a headache for defenders, if he weren't so painfully static.

There is a concern over how well he fits together with the rest of the team, and his shot numbers - averaging a measly 1.35 per game - do not suggest anything particularly earth-shaking. He is lacking in pace, can be clumsy with his footwork as well, and at 0.4 dribbles per game, he cannot be relied upon to carry the ball.

Indeed, one might say that the combination of Crotone's desperation, Simy's sheer size, and the chaos factor it can foment inside the box, may have been the tipping factors in his sudden return to the starting line-up.

Even held up against some of his competitors, he doesn't compare well. He lacks the work rate and hard, selfless running of Brown Ideye, the technical aptitude of Kelechi Iheanacho, or the finishing ability of Odion Ighalo. Tactically, he also does not fit the Super Eagles' counter-attacking style.

Stranger things have happened, of course, but in all, it is difficult to see just how exactly Simy's skillset aids the team in terms of goalscoring.


Source: http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/can-simy-resolve-super-eagles-goalscoring-headache/2t5aq1j85is11tallotkelo4m


Russia 2018 WC Countdown: 40 days 13 hours 56mins to go

You are all correct. But too much analysis leads to paralysis. We have only 3 choices. Oya make we vote. lol .

Icon4s:
1 is cool but not aggressive.
2 Is too long though it carries a strong message.
3 Could have been perfect if the sentence can be reconstructed but still keeping the key words "wings" and " African Pride". I would have preferred some thing like: "WINGS OF NIGERIA, PRIDE OF AFRICA". And with the Eagle's wings printed on the Bus.

the slogans could be better.. but if u see that of other countries eh, ours no bad.

TheGoodJoe:
Two seems Perfect to me.

go that link go see other countries own.. me sef dey do kamuka vote for them hahah

safarigirl:
I sha don't like any of the slogans. Too plain TBH.

I prefer that 2014 own