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Politics › Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 8:36pm On Nov 21, 2019

0monnak0da:
Please clarify the emboldened
,WHO did not release

Ironsi didn't release them

Politics › Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 8:26pm On Nov 21, 2019

0monnak0da:
Why did Ojukwu release Awo 48 hours after Gowon Ordered the Release even though Ojukwu had been governor nearly 8 months and 3 months earlier Awo had written to Ironsi seeking Pardon
Why THAT MOMENT?

Did Ojukwu go along with the order because HE AGREED with it or did he INITIATE IT independently

Did he issue a different pardon

Ive been saying it over and over. Ojukwu AGREED and was in total support. Ironsi was not a good politician. He was scared to release Awo so as not to offend the north because their most important leaders had been eliminated in a coup designed to install Awo. I've read accounts of how there were attempts to murder Awo in prison. He didn't release Okpara, K.O Mbadiwe, RFK and co either.

Ojukwu like many young officers from the South admired Awo but in the military you obey your C.O. and Ironsi was in charge

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Politics › Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 8:23pm On Nov 21, 2019

0monnak0da:
Why did Ojukwu release Awo 48 hours after Gowon Ordered the Release even though Ojukwu had been governor nearly 8 months and 3 months earlier Awo had written to Ironsi seeking Pardon
Why THAT MOMENT?

Did Ojukwu go along with the order because HE AGREED with it or did he INITIATE IT independently

Did he issue a different pardon

double post

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Politics › Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 8:16pm On Nov 21, 2019

LegendHero:
No I don't know. Can you please give me a source to back your claims? I want to learn.

Go look up page 183 of Ademoyega's "Why we struck".

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Politics › Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 8:14pm On Nov 21, 2019

0monnak0da:
OK what about the release of Obasanjo in 1998?

Did the Governor of the state say he wasn't aware that Obasanjo was to be released?

Politics › Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 7:56pm On Nov 21, 2019

LegendHero:
Lol, dont mind them. Normally I should have stopped answering them since page 3 of this thread but that will give them more power to peddle the false narratives.

This is their modu operandi.
Deny the truth to the end even if you are taken back in time in the face of strong evidence.
Bring out personal assertions to try to bend the truth and invalidate its authenticity.
Resort to personal abuse to digress the author from the subject matter and pollute the thread.
Lastly, make sure you keep lying, lying, lying, and never budge anytime to accept any truth.

[b]I even have the video where Gowon convened the national conference in Lagos in September 13th, 1966 with all the regions represented. He was trying to ask the way forward from Nigerians and what mode of government system we wish to practice. How was he be able to convey that conference without him having control over Calabar prison a month earlie[/b]r.

Another faulty comparison.

A constitutional conference in Lagos attended by all regions in September does not in any way infer that Gowon had any authority over the Eastern Region. I hope you know the Eastern Region refused to attend the next conference held in October. Why did Gowon not force them to attend if he had control?

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Politics › Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 7:44pm On Nov 21, 2019

LegendHero:
It does not matter whether the governor knows or not. The chief warder of Calabar prison (a federal one) take orders from the Supreme military council leader and he will follow orders either the governor of the region knows about it or not.

Just like Buhari can give command for any federal prisoner in Kirikiri to be released and Sanwo-olu will dare not question the directive.

Sanwo-Olu is a very poor example. You cannot compare a democratic climate to a military command and control structure and the protocols involved. Who controlled the soldiers in the Eastern Region?

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Politics › Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 6:35pm On Nov 21, 2019

LegendHero:
What is actually your conculsion?

Was it that Gowon ordered the release of Awolowo and Ojukwu obliged or you mean Ojukwu actually released Awo himself?

I answered this question in my first post on this thread. Kindly answer the question. Can the chief warder Calabar prisons release Awo without the Governor knowing about it?

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Politics › Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 6:01pm On Nov 21, 2019

ProudDick:
But you saw him on prison uniform.
What concerns ojukwu with a federal prisoner? Does buhari needs tambuwal approval before releasing dasuki? Was the federal prison under the control of ojukwu?

So you think the prison chief warder can release Awolowo, the leader of the Yorubas without the Governor of the region knowing about it? In a military regime? Not possible.

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Politics › Re: MC Oluomo Of NURTW Signs Bilateral Trade Agreement With Chinese Firms. Pictures. by joeyfire(m): 5:45pm On Nov 21, 2019

Menthol on the move cool

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Politics › Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 4:53pm On Nov 21, 2019

LegendHero:
All the things you wrote up here is just based on speculations and you have not cited any credible sources to back your claim.

I released sources both video, pictures and papers from: New York Times, Reuters, Britishpathe, and Premium Times to back my claims that Gowon released Awolowo.

Can you please cite one credible source to back your claim that Ojukwu did instead?

You are actually the one being emotional, you most likely didn't read what I wrote dispassionately. Let me summarise, there was definitely a compromise or understanding between Gowon and Ojukwu for the release.

Almost all of your sources are the same, just brief statements. There is nothing really detailed to show us the mechanisms that can prove that a prisoner as important as Awo will be released without the military regional governor knowing about it. How is that even possible? In a military regime where one didn't recognise the other?

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Politics › Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 3:31pm On Nov 21, 2019

This video just shows Awo arriving in a car and shaking hands with Gowon. How does this prove anything undecided

This thing has been debated non-stop for years since Ojukwu said he was the one that released Awo. Unfortunately all the people (Gowon and co) who have been speaking contrary to Ojukwu's statement did not start talking about it until AFTER OJUKWU DIED... Gowon has also not written a book or memoirs for us to read and scrutinise.

My honest opinion is that the release of Awo would have been of huge PR benefit to Gowon/FG and Ojukwu. Yes Ojukwu did not recognise the government of Gowon but would have happily played along with the release if Gowon requested it and there was definitely no chance of Awo being released without Ojukwu's knowledge, it just doesn't work that way.

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Politics › Re: Bomb Found Behind A School In Awka, Anambra State (Photos) by joeyfire(m): 12:25am On Nov 20, 2019

The guy played with his life

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Politics › Re: Joe Igbokwe Takes Swipe At Air Peace After Completing His Trip via ARIK and DANA by joeyfire(m): 12:20am On Nov 20, 2019

villagecraft:
Read exact statement as posted on his Facebook timeline following his rejection to board and fly with AIR PEACE

“JUST TO INFORM THE MANAGEMENT OF AIR PEACE THAT I GOT A 9am ARIK AIR TO ABUJA AND STILL COMPLETED MY ASSIGNMENTS. I AM HEADING BACK TO LAGOS WITH DANA AIR. THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE IN NIGERIA. I KNOW IT IS DIFFICULT TO MANAGE SUCCESS THAN FAILURE. NIGERIA WILL DEFEAT BOKO HARAM
Edward Hillary, the first man to climb Mount Everest did not succeed at the first attempt. He addressed a World Press Conference thereafter with the enlarged photograph of Mount Everest behind him. He turned back to look at the huge photograph and said: “ MOUNT EVEREST YOU DEFEATED BUT I WILL COME BACK TO DEFEAT YOU” and he did and became the first man to climb Mount Everest. Air Peace will not defeat me.
IAM NOT TOO SURE THE CEO OF AIR PEACE CHIEF ALLEN ONYEMA INSTRUCTED THE OVERZEALOUS AND UNCULTURED WORKERS OF THE AIRLINE TO BLOCK ME. IAM WAITING TO GET A RESPONSE FROM THE MANAGEMENT.”

Lalasticlala, Mynd44, OAM4J

sharrap and clean your gutter

Politics › Re: Enlighten Yourself:SE Must Embrace APC To remain Relevant In Nigerian Politics by joeyfire(m): 7:21pm On Nov 19, 2019

God forbid which APC. E be like say una no sabi us at all. Igbos are going to gain a lot from being mainly in the opposition party. Greater unity of purpose and identity. Let's go there

Politics › Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by joeyfire(m): 4:08pm On Nov 19, 2019

I've been laughing at the SW ppl's comments. I don't take them seriously because everything is calculated towards Tinubu's 2023 pipedream grin

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Politics › Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by joeyfire(m): 5:59am On Nov 19, 2019

0monnak0da:
On the basis of Regions

Your founding fathers who signed up to Nigeria at independence conceded that the North have more federal legislators than the South.

Unless I am lacking knowledge on this subject, this is a fallacy. Total hogwash.

Politics › Re: Why Do Some People Get Depressed When SS And SE Are Mentioned Together ? by joeyfire(m): 5:53am On Nov 19, 2019

raumdeuter:
Why Bayelsa people no vote APGA why be say na Hausa Islamic Yoruba party dem vote

That guy concluded that Igbos hate SW/North because Abia didn't vote APC. Your question doesn't apply here.

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Politics › Re: Why Do Some People Get Depressed When SS And SE Are Mentioned Together ? by joeyfire(m): 2:36am On Nov 19, 2019

LegendHero:
Why did APC not win in Abia?

Also, I don’t have time to be going on and on about a subject matter that is evident.

People reading this knows where I’m coming from and you also know what the truth is.

Gracias!

This is ridiculous grin

Pls why did APGA not win in Lagos?

APC is a useless, tribal party that is dragging this country down fast! In almost every area from security, economy, national unity, human rights and corruption. This is not football banter of Arsenal vs Chelsea. There are consequences for our choices. Police commissioners and judges are kidnapped now on the road and Generals travel by train. You expect SE to accept such a party because it favours your tribal agenda?? Big joke forget it

Foreign Affairs › Re: Adolf Hilter Destroyed Democratic System After His Election – Prof Anya Slams by joeyfire(m): 10:58am On Nov 18, 2019

KEVIND:
How democracy produced a monster.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/opinion/03iht-edkershaw.1.9700744.html

Politics › Re: I Loss Hope In Nigeria Because Of Buhari by joeyfire(m): 7:26am On Nov 18, 2019

raumdeuter:
This is better than the days of PDP and OBJ

How is it better. Under PDP Nigeria was among the fastest growing economies in the world. Today it has the highest number of poor people and is number one in the world for open defecation.

Politics › Re: Gov Dickson Of Bayelsa Breaks Down In Tears On Realising Pdp Lost by joeyfire(m): 9:10pm On Nov 17, 2019

Big body without brain

Politics › Re: Jonathan Taught Dickson A Lesson With Governorship Election In Bayelsa by joeyfire(m): 9:09pm On Nov 17, 2019

"If Dickson wan enter APC through back door we go show am say we fit use front door enter" - Patience Jonathan grin

I saw this somewhere online but its something she can say

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Politics › Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by joeyfire(m): 7:48pm On Nov 17, 2019

Omnibus:
True. I admire him as a person and his belief in one Nigeria, though we all know we shouldn't be one

He is a great man. A true believer and not a mercenary like so many of his peers. Even if what he believes in is fake he genuinely loves it.

If not for him there would have been atrocities against Igbos after the civil war and it would have led to guerilla war that might have lasted until today.

Politics › Re: Remembering Biafra In Border Closure by joeyfire(m): 6:48pm On Nov 17, 2019

I dare say this country has lasted as long as it has because of Obasanjo. He really believes in this British colonial contraption

Politics › Re: I Loss Hope In Nigeria Because Of Buhari by joeyfire(m): 6:30pm On Nov 17, 2019

OP- Once Buhari won in 2015 i lost hope in Nigeria. We are witnessing the return of Abacha. By the time the rubber stamp national assembly passes the Social Media Bill and Hate speech laws everybody's eye will clear. The APC has already destroyed the economy and institutions. Freedom will be the final target

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Politics › Re: Bola Tinubu: The Drug Dealer Who Wants To Rule Nigeria by joeyfire(m): 6:11pm On Nov 17, 2019

raumdeuter:
If Buhari drops Osinbajo and picks an Ibo man you will see Ibos singing Buharis praise

Only Igbo efulefus.

Politics › Re: Ijaw Hoisting The Flag Of APC On Their Land (Photos) by joeyfire(m): 6:04pm On Nov 17, 2019

Dickson handed APC this victory. Now he can join them openly instead of pretending

Politics › Re: Bola Tinubu: The Drug Dealer Who Wants To Rule Nigeria by joeyfire(m): 1:33pm On Nov 17, 2019*

chizgold80:
The 2023 battle for the seat of the President, federal republic of Nigeria is definitely on, with various interests and persons across the country already justling for the number one seat. One of such persons is a frontline politician and the current leader of the All Progressive Congress (APC) Alh Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

Bola Tinubu is, by all standards, an astute politician who's political cunning, bravery, and sacrifice in the 2015 political calculations, led to the defeat of a sitting President and the constitution of the present APC led federal government.

What most people don't know about the leader of the APC is that he is a convicted drug peddler who had to forfeit a fortune to the United States of America on conviction of drug related charges and escaped prison through a plea bargain.

According our investigation, the United State's District Court, Eastern District of Illinois, Eastern Division ordered the forfeiture of funds belonging to Alh Bola Ahmed Tinubu, held in nine different accounts in First Heritage Bank, Citi Bank NA and Citi Bank Int'l, in a case docketed and dated October 5th, 1993 after he was convicted of Narcotics trafficking.

https://ikengachronicles.com/bola-tinubu-the-drug-dealer-who-wants-to-rule-nigeria/

Tinubu's criminal record is clear as daylight. But the truth is that many politicians have dirty linen somewhere hidden. My issue with him being president is that he is not a good administrator. Besides mobilising IGR in Lagos (no big achievement in a former FCT with 20 million people) he has no legacies for future generations to point at except MC Oluomo and the army of touts smoking weed all over the place. No infrastructure or transport systems. Absolutely nothing!

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Politics › Re: Great Recovery Of South-East After Nigerian Civil War by joeyfire(m): 1:11pm On Nov 17, 2019

horsepower101:
I have even lost count of how many igbos that have been elected in various countries this year alone. Imagine if I start counting the last 10 years.

IGBOs are very very very GOOD in POLITICS. They have proven it over and over.

This caricature practiced in this sick country called Nigeria is not politics. Igbos have been doing democracy before the white man came. Others were doing ranka dede and baba sope. That's why we are so incompatible

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Politics › Re: Great Recovery Of South-East After Nigerian Civil War by joeyfire(m): 12:47pm On Nov 17, 2019

YungMillionaire:
Igbos are no longer Biafrans but Nigerians. They should be treated as such. This is why I support an Igbo presidency. Unfortunately, Igbos are not very good in politics. It would be beautiful if Igbos can get a Tinubu-like political figure. Igbos should send someone like Peter Obi to go and learn politics under Tinubu for like 5 years.

Igbos are not good in politics but the first black senator in Italy is an Igbo man. His party is even right-wing and anti-immigration. Nigerian politics is designed to promote the most useless ones to relevance (orji uzor kalu and rochas) and keep the best far from power. If that's the type of politics that one Nigeria is all about then yes we are not good at that type.

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Politics › Re: APC You Are Truly Wicked WARNING Graphic Images!!! by joeyfire(m): 10:04am On Nov 15, 2019

helinues:
It is only those who their lives are not valuable to them attend political rally

So why bother having a country huh

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