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![]() hardywaltz: Tribal monkey... |
Comot for here! The man took an unrelated tangent from the issue at hand to "remind" and that doesn't stink of bigotry to u alj harem?? alj harem: @ Joeyfire and ikeyman01. On a serious note, do you take any threat from us serious ? LOL |
Sai Mimiko!!! Iroko for Show |
You say it can't happen in a yoruba gathering abi? When Tokyo comot Bola Ige cap for gathering for ibadan nko Yomieluv: if i say ibos are silly tribes,people go talk say i don start again. |
This is such childish bullshyte. Do u really think like this? onomeasike: the blood of the children starved by biafran soldiers at work.the ibos should await more calamity until they atone for the innocent civilians killed by starvation by biafran soldiers!!yeye |
Yes the statement is a veiled threat oga stop defending the obvious. He is reminding us that most of the assets of igbos are in yorubaland, reminding us that we have been undisturbed all this while. In a saner country opadokun would have had questions to answer in interrogation room somewhere. For crying out loud do u consider the madness on ths site to be normal behaviour? Ths site is a popular playground for extremists. Finally achebe did not abuse yorubas, hs daughter s even married to one so what are we saying? alj harem: So you actually think the above statement is a threat ? Is it not the same thing we say here on Nairaland, have you ever considered that as a threat to ? |
My thoughts exactly. Ndi a na cho ndi fa ga ma njakili abouzaid: Pls all igbos should stop responding to this thread. The yorubas are trying to tempt u into a fight with useless post without statistics and ur falling for it. Pls deny them that joy. Wrestling with a pig in mud would only make u dirty but it would make the pig happy therefore we should not make the pig happy by responding their tauntings. Pls all igbos stop responding on this thread no matter what they say. |
Ngwanu no wahala abouzaid: Bikonu, unu mechie onu unu ka ndi a yiba ara soso fa. |
Yorubas don go far abeg. I really enjoyed the run-up to the election men! Ozonna: Believe it or not, Yorubas are polically more enlightened than the rest of the tribes in nigeria. Look @ the debate, the contestants subjected demselves to the debate. The voters now chose d best candidate by dia own judgement. |
alj harem: you people have started again, when have yorubas ever threaten any group apart from terrorist ? why the lieAlj Harem take time o! “Let our Igbo brothers be reminded that about three-quarters of their assets not in the eastern Region are in Lagos and we have been very liberal and accommodating. We have allowed them to live undisturbed.” Ayo Opadokun http://www.osundefender.org/?p=39637 |
No apologies please. The man wrote his story and that's that. If the yoruba critics attacked his position or what he said directly and its without reasonable doubt proven to be lies then we can talk about apologies but so far all they have done is croak about nobel prize and other motor park details. When will village champions like ayo opadokun apologise for hinting at threatening igbos over achebe's book. When modupe adelaja sad igbos should stick to their trading and forget about public office no igbo leader threatened war and I don't remember any yoruba person apologising on her behalf |
Divisive to you of course. The man called Achebe is a literary legend with his work translated into 40 languages. What are YOU known for? Eko Ile: I wasn't expecting much from your type, you are a sad by product of the same divisive achebe. |
Moderators do your job regarding this and posters like these - whitecat007: Death to ibos!!! whitecat007: you and the rest of your people are sub-human who should have been wiped out and still need to be removed from this earth for the world to know peace. You ibos do not deserve to live among human, and may evil that is bigger than that of biafra befall you ibos over and over again till not one single ibo is walking on this earth. |
Politicians are just wonderful characters. This democracy eh? |
Gowon, the head of state that prosecuted the war, is telling people to go and ask the historians. Smh |
Igbo haters don't need to hyperventilate. Just fast for 3 days that your prayers be answered and we can leave in peace. |
You are a very funny character. Instead of answering my question you are hiding behind a propaganda piece from Egbe omo oduduwa. I will be back to highlight the st.upidity of this trash write-up but the onus s on you to prove your allegation that igbos are CURRENTLY provoking ther hosts. Answer me pls and don't go scouring the globe looking for hack articles to hide behind amor4ce: joeyfire's request for instances of Igbo provocative acts is very silly. Anyway... |
@ TOMAKINT - I've been reading through your posts for days now and just saw that you are a yoruba man. Its commendable that you're trying to educate people but bear it in mind that bigotry is a condition of mind and spirit and not a point of view. Its going to be impossible for logic to prevail in such a scenario. I thank God for you because its very easy to follow the bandwagon along the wide popular paths of life that always lead to hell. God bless you for embracing the truth because we will all face God alone. Luke 13:24 tomakint: @ Dayokanu, I am sure you know the meaning of nemesis, my Bible calls it the ‘Law of Retribution’ the Buddhist call it ‘Law of Karma’, if you look at your Nigeria of today you will see the Igbos have been vindicated and from all indications of what is happening in Nigeria of today, “It is clearly written in the sky now that Ojukwu is the clear HERO while Gowon (Mr Go On With One Nigeria) and his ‘gangs are the clear VILLAINS in the Nigerian Civil War”! I have read many books and articles on the war and I have come to realise that there are many hearsays yet to be documented on the war that I have heard from many people who actually took part in the war that makes my heart melt. I have heard from some unscrupulous elements on this forum that no Igbo were killed in Yorubaland which are all lies, the truth is, many Igbos who were trapped in many Yoruba land shortly after the war started were massively killed or betrayed into the hands of Nigerian troops, it was that diabolical. I doubt if you have ‘human blood’ flowing in your veins when you pick up any book on the war and see the gory details of the war towards innocent lives. I can see you grinning cheek to cheek as your trigger-happy Brigadier Benjamin Adekunle (a man you so much love to be like) with his AK-47 spraying anything called ‘Biafrans’ (be they toddlers, pregnant and nursing women, babies, helpless youths) with his bullets. My question to you is; “Where are your ‘warriors’ today and look at the same breed (The Igbos) you love to hate today? |
My guy stay focused on the issues at hand. All u have done is post links to blogs of atrocities that no other medium on earth carried. Even if u are a tribalist at least u should have a sane moment or two. Abeg answer the posers. Do you or do you not know that there was a midwest rebel atrocities commission set up by gowon that after ages of tryng, could NOT find ANY evidence. If there had been any shred of evidence I know one of you would have put it up here since. Its not about screaming Igbo Igbo Igbo so bigots can clap for you show me some facts. I remember how one comedian on nairaland put a blog up sayng that igbos are from syria, pls get a source that is a little serious dayokanu: We know typical Igbo everyone else lied you are the ones who tell the truth Just like Okpara, Azikwe, Osadebey were very upright and angelic men while Bello, Balewa, AKintola, Maimalari were the devil and the corrupt ones. |
Nowa omogui's article is 30 percent truth and 70 percent lies. He is the only source on earth of information on so called biafran atrocities. His articles will be gobbled up by lazy bigots but people who really want the truth will look deeper. There's no honour in lying against your "enemy" dayokanu: I am sure every Igbo after 1970 knows what the Law of Karma is and you are simply preaching to the choir here. |
Honestly I can't say for sure. I know for a certainty that biafran troops swept into the midwest and through to ore unchallenged, so there wouldn't have been any real engagement per say on their way to ore. I know that the group that forced them back from ore was led by Joe Garba ayobase: I need to know pls. Were they engaged by Nigerian Soldiers of Yoruba Ethnicity? |
At times I doubt if blogs are a good thing. its very funny how all the information on alleged igbo atrocities are has only come from one blog. No report by any foreign neutral media, no clear cut documentation by nigerian media. Its startling how far gone most ppl are into lies and revisionism. Do you know that there was a panel of enquiry into alleged rebel atrocities put together by the FG after the biafran army retreated from the midwest? Now u guys have expo, go and research and let me see the results. Till then mere quotes from a blog doesn't cut it Didn't the midwest have newspapers to carry the news? Didn't any foreign print media which would have surely reported it, have the power to publish such news? I respect wrters who have the guts to put their writeups together into a book that can be critiqued for generations to come. I am not going to swallow a featherweight article because it lends more bullets to my ammo or grease to my engine against a particular people. I challenge you to go and look for a book called "let truth be told" by d.w.muffett. The writer was with british intelligence and was very pro- sardauna. He painted facts n wild colours but even he didn't lie blatantly about igbos massacre of midwesterners dayokanu: How did the Biafra troops conduct themselves in the Midwest when they invaded? Lets hear from a son of the Midwest Nowa Omoiguis account |
By all means we must always look at the lessons learned in 1966 but the onus is on that guy to prove that igbos are "provoking" their hosts to warrant genocide or large scale violence today. Abeg allow the guy to answer. As for katsina's comment about bookish people joining the army, we know the attitude of the northern elite to educationand we have seen the results today in the north. I have my personal opinion of why katsina and his ogas (gowon excluded) wanted everyone around the illiterate and easy to dceive but that's for another time ayobase: Joey, scapping 1966 events, means scrapping the war. |
Shuo! Benedictus o who told u that northern soldiers had been moved back to the north. I hope you are aware that Joe Garba who led the force that pushed the biafrans back from ore was a northerner Ubenedictus: oh! By the time ojukwu started d war the northerners had already been ordered back to the north. Wu was ojukwu going to fight, besides for a waring army to pass thru and nothing bad happened is like say the Dog helped you in safe keeping d meat u droped on its plate. It is imposible. |
Bros, some of the people of ore may have fled but at least we know that the traditional leadership received Banjo and there were (as far as I know) NO killings or atrocities of any kind. If biafra intended to occupy they would have committed evil while they were on ground. As for biafran troops probably having to kill yoruba soldiers en route to lagos my answer is they would have had to kill NIGERIAN soldiers of yoruba ethnicity. No shaking for that one. The bone of contention for me is that biafran troops indeed entered NIGERIAN soil en route to the seat of power and conducted themselves in a manner that showed they were not after yoruba lives. The army of bigots on NL know its true. I challenge anyone to prove this Madawaki01: so why did they remove d governor of d region and put an ibo man there,from what u said,one cud hav seen dat u didn't tink b4 u typed....so they wil march to dodan barracks without killing civilians,or yoruba soldiers or u don't know dat if they take dodan barracks they wil appoint anoda governor 4 d region....why not conquer d whole north first b4 marching to lagos,when biafran forces entered ore,the pple residing there ran away,why?they know looting,killing of civilians and destruction of their properties wil follow,there is no way an armed forces of anoda tribe wil enta anoda tribe and won't cause harm to d pple....u make me laugh joey |
Fixed dayokanu: No be today. E don tay wey Yoruba be hausa slaves |
Chinua Achebe: The lynch mob comes Out On October 14, 2012 · In The Orbit Tweet By Obi Nwakanma Publication, this past week, of Chinua Achebe’s memoir of Biafra, There Was A Country, had the Awoist camp up in arms. The Awoists – followers and defenders of the legacy of Chief Awolowo- have expended a lot of verbal grapes on the person of Chinua Achebe. It felt like a dangerous mob unleashed on one of the world’s most important cultural icons. All Achebe did was tell the truth about Awo. In his new book, Achebe writes about many things. His memoir is a deeply reflective tour de force into the events that shaped the Achebean era – an era of great promise that slipped into great infamy. Chinua Achebe has given shape and form to the truths of this era. But truth, particularly if it is uncomfortable and disconcerting is also dangerous. It unsettles too many comfortable myths.Awo is a great industry for mythmakers. Among the provocative truths that Achebe tells in his book is Obafemi Awolowo’s war crime of genocide by the “diabolical policy” of starvation against Biafrans. I should say here, that it is a bit sad that out of the very many important issues that Achebe raises and explores in his new book, the one that has gained so much attention is his comment on Awolowo because Awoists do not want such dirty linens aired. It makes them nervous and uncomfortable. It drives them to tears and to rage. Achebe calls out other important members of the Gowon administration like Anthony Enahoro and Allison Ayida, including Gowon himself, on the same issue of genocide against Biafrans. The clear evidence of Achebe’s allegation is based on Awo’s own statement: “All is fair in war, and starvation is one of the weapons of war…” But we do know that all is not fair in war. There is something called the “Geneva Convention” and Awo’s war policy violated it. You do not starve civilian populations in war. It is called a war crime. Awo’s storm troopers and Brownshirts have nonetheless trooped out in great strength and have come only short of calling for Chinua Achebe’s head for his exposure of Awolowo. Calls ranging from a ban of all his books to a “Nuremberg trial” of him and all the Biafrans have been made in response. An obscure two-penny actor, who also claims to write books by the name Femi Robinson says Achebe’s books, from Things Fall Apart, should be banned. Ayo Opadokun has made innuendos of ethnic cleansing by reminding the Igbo that much of their property is in Lagos, and presumably the Igbo, like Achebe, should be circumspect about the war.  Chinua Achebe It is a great wonder what Igbo property in Lagos and Yoruba magnanimity“permitting” the Igbo to reside and thrive in Lagos has to do with Achebe’s book, except to draw, as did many of such fierce and ignorant diatribes, Achebe as somehow voicing an “Igbo agenda.” I think Ayo Opadokun exhibits not only pitiable small-mindedness but ought to be censored and warned. Meanwhile, the Igbo do not seek his permission or anybody’s permission for that matter to live and thrive in Lagos. Igbo who came to Lagos, and who reside everywhere in Nigeria do so because they can. They are Nigerians and have a right to live and prosper anywhere in Nigeria and be protected under the laws of Nigeria. They do not need the magnanimity or permission of Ayo Opadokun who himself is a settler in Lagos much like the Igbo residents. Ayo Adebanjo, Femi Fani-Kayode, Biyi Durojaiye, and Ebenezer Babatope all threw their hats in the ring in challenge of Chinua Achebe’s view of their idol. But it seems as though against Achebe’s articulate and textured views, these are Calibans learning their first curse-words against their master! They “cuss out” the writer, Achebe, but they are yet to contradict him. It is not just enough to defend Awolowo. It is important to defend him with facts; to show that Achebe has lied against him. But the evidence is too compelling. Achebe has not lied against Awo. Even in his 1983 interview re-published to prove and indemnify his innocence, Awolowo does not deny his policy of starvation. He accounts for how he visited the East in the heat of the conflict, in his official capacity; saw “Kwashiokor children” and found out that the food allegedly sent by the Red Cross and Caritas was being hijacked by soldiers: “So I decided to stop sending the food there. In the process the civilians will suffer. But the soldiers will suffer most.” This is illogical and counterintuitive,and it is a compelling evidence of Awolowo’s deliberate policy of starvation. It is enough to bring him before the International Criminals Court to face the kind of Justice meted out to Milosevic and Charles Taylor in whose company he belongs. But, no! his followers say. Awo was right in using the strategy of mass starvation to end the war. These guys do not belong to a civilized century and have learnt nothing from war!The poet Odia Ofeimun for instance has spent an entire career on Awo, laboring to turn him into the first modern political saint in all of Africa. Odia’s project of apotheosis makes him mouth, in reaction to Achebe’s work, what I can only describe as blasphemy. He wants Achebe and those in Biafra who defended themselves against the Nigerian onslaught to face a “Nuremberg-style trial.” In Mr. Ofeimun’s rather strange and, dare I say, warped logic, those Biafrans who knew about starving children without surrendering should be put to trial for genocide. But not Awo who ordered the starvation of children. He blames the victim. It is not just enough that Odia Ofeimun continues to defend atrocities meted against other humans, like all zealots, he is incapable it seems of honesty in this matter. He defends a legacy that includes genocide. The Biafrans did not start the war and therefore did not prepare for a vicious war. They were pushed to war when the Federal Army began a two-pronged attack and they defended themselves. The Biafrans made serious efforts before and during the war to avoid war and settle the Nigerian question amicably. At each point, they were subverted by the Federal government. People who come under siege defend themselves, Mr. Ofeimun; they do not surrender. The Biafrans did not hide the fact of massive starvation. In fact they made it a central issue, and on each occasion when it came out, Enahoro and other Awoists in Gowon’s government denied it and put it down to “Biafran propaganda” until compelling evidence pushed them in the Niamey talks in 1968 to make starvation a “legitimate instrument of war.” Biafrans always pushed for settlement, but without precondition. Awo wanted nothing less than to “crush” Biafra by any means as he declared during the Commonwealth Conference of Prime Ministers in London in 1969: “This war must be fought to the finish and the federal government is poised for the final push” Mr. Ofeimun may have forgotten; the honest accounts of that war are available, and among the great chroniclers of the event is a woman called Suzanne Cronje whose book published in 1972 indicts Awolowo and the Nigerian government. I recommend that Nigerians seeking honest intellection read this book side by side with Achebe’s and the truth will set us free from writers who wish that other writers be tried for telling the truth. |
What? Igbos "collectiively" insulted yorubas. When was this bros Degis: Isn't it obvious these Igbos need another round of bashing to recognize that they are Third Class citizens in this Country. After the failed misadventure of the Civil War, the same Yorubas these idiiiiotts collectively abused led their reintegration back into Nigeria. |
The issue of biafran troops on western nigerian soil is a much debated issue. But let's look at the fact that yorubaland was not the target in a strict sense but dodan barracks was the aim of the mission. Dodan barracks that was in the grip of an essentially northern military leadership that was in Lagos! I believe we can draw answers for ourselves individually and draw conclusions aside from what we've been told all these years. There are issues to observe when we analyse the intentions of others. Did biafran troops come to occupy yorubaland in the strict sense of the word? Were there any attempts to remove yoruba traditional leadership in ore or other places where they were on ground. Also I want to ask, where there any crimes or atrocties comitted against yorubas? The enemy took advantage and solidified its grip by twisting and exploiting te truth. What I find puzzlng is the wholehearted embrace of propganda and politics forty fve years later Ubenedictus: an awolowo spoke and advocated a neutral west wen d war started, but how did ojukwu pay back? He brought his army to yoruba land, that was the turning point, if ojukwu had took his army directly to d north and left d yoruba wu said they were neutral alone he would have had a leg to stand on. Ojukwu blew it, he removed d mat from under his own legs and had to bear d consequences. |
Quit puzzyfooting around and answer my question jack. I ask how igbos provoke their hosts and you are reciting the sae 1966 story. How are igbos provoking your people. U haven't been able to outline the much touted provocation that is deserving of conflict. I believe that it boils down to xenophobia and orientation and nothing else. Like I said if you are bigot be proud of what you are. There are lots of bigots in the world so u should feel comfortable in your skin amor4ce: He quoted my comment in which I mentioned one particular act of provocation, but he responded like he didn't see it. Is it that these people are so blinded by greed that they interpret any act of provocation on their part as normal, but when those they provoke react they cry marginalization? They cry for Biafra now whereas they benefit from Nigeria since they sell rice, beans, garri, panadol in various cities across the country. With Biafra and the their history of annoying other Nigerian ethnic nationalities, who would want to have anything to do with them? |
At least somebody is trying to say something now. Amor4ce is hiding behind you but no wahala. Abeg when did igbos declare your place a "no mans land" I would like to know the people and the time. As for what happened in 1966, is anybody still killing your leaders? I've heard a lot about "provoking your hosts" and all that and I want to understand where you guys are coming from, when did igbos come together and announce that your land is no mans land? Also list the provocations abeg thanks dayokanu: For one How do you go to someone elses place and declare the place a no mans land? |
Funny how you lot sing about igbos "not respecting their hosts" and how they "provoke" their hosts and so on bla bla bla. But you never identify any particular way you are supposedly being provoked. If you are natural bigot you should accept it and stop clutching at straws amor4ce: Prior to the January 1966 coup the Igbo people had been provoking the Hausa-Fulani who in turn dealt severely with them. Yet, the Igbo went ahead with their very biased coup d'etat. On May 29 1966 these northerners had a bloody revenge and the Igbo declared a secession. Many northerners would still have harboured grievance against the Igbo for killing their revered leaders, and these northerners would have seen the declaration of war as an opportunity to really get their revenge with the probability that a sizable number joined the military for this purpose. Thus, many of the alleged 2-3 million Igbo victims of the civil war may have been fallen at the hands of Hausa-Fulani soldiers. The Igbo boast exceedingly and do not learn. They provoke others who react. What would this country have been like if the Igbo did not foolishly and continuously seek to dominate others instead of seeing them as equals? What would this country have been like if the Igbo never staged the January 1966 coup? |
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