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Politics › Re: The Real Map Of Nigeria -the Ultimate Truth by johnie: 5:32pm On Apr 21, 2011
ideylaff:



LIKE I KEEP REITERATING, POLITICIANS NEVER FIGHT THEMSELVES, THEY JUST DISAGREE TO AGREE, WE ARE THE OUTSIDERS AND ITS OUR VERY OWN LIVES THEY MORTGAGE WHEN THEY MAKE DECISIONS BASED SOLELY ON EGO, PERSONAL INTEREST AND WHAT NOT U HAVE.

Time will tell
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Gbam!

To me, there are only two political parties in the world:

1. That of the politicians
2. That of  the rest of us who are not politicians

The party of the politicians have "zones" to which they rotate power from time to time through what we call elections

In the USA, the two zones of the politicans' party are the Republicans and the Democrats
In the UK, we have the Labour and Conservatives. Of course there is the minority zone called the Liberal Democrats
In Nigeria we have the PDP, CPC, ACN, ANPP, etc

If you think they are out to get power for our party, I dey laff

grin



johnie:
BBC Interview with Ivorian Reggea Star- Alpha Blondy:

I would not want to be a politician - no way, because I love life too much!

You cannot be a good politician if you are not a good liar. You have to be able to lie with conviction.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13063216
While we are at it, you may also be interested in this :

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=639186.msg8154204#msg8154204
Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 5:26pm On Apr 21, 2011
Yes, that one you saw around 1:06 is from Africa.

It is actually from Somalia, the home country of BlueNWhite (the Nigeria Hater).

This happened in Kenya which offered to host their parliament (http://allafrica.com/stories/200506130909.html)

Maybe this is why they havn't had a central government for some years now.

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Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 5:15pm On Apr 21, 2011
Do you remember Benny Hill?

This is what he qould have made of the lot:

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Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 5:08pm On Apr 21, 2011
And Mexico


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Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 5:04pm On Apr 21, 2011
And Sri Lanka

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And India

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Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 2:44pm On Apr 21, 2011
Even the women are not left out,

in South Korea,


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Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 2:38pm On Apr 21, 2011
And Bolivia

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Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 2:36pm On Apr 21, 2011
And Russia

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGaaqH2o6I[/flash]
Nairaland General › Re: Is Nairaland Server Flooded? by johnie(op): 2:31pm On Apr 21, 2011
Some people are trying to 'moderate' the site a la Egyptian revolution?

The amount of hate spewed on the site since the presidential elections have been outrageous!
Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 2:26pm On Apr 21, 2011
And Ukraine

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Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 2:23pm On Apr 21, 2011
And Slovakia and Taiwan!


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Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 2:01pm On Apr 21, 2011
Before you start castigating our lawmakers.

Take a look at this:

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It happens even in the US of A!

grin grin grin
Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 1:57pm On Apr 21, 2011
I guess you are all familiar with the fracas that broke out last year at the house of representative.

Here's how it was reported on Kenyan TV:


[flash=400,400]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/96ZulEt2h5c[/flash]

and CBS:


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLWCgq4LPA8[/flash]

The newly elected lawmakers might want to take some lessons from this and begin karate, boxing and wrestling lessons.

grin
Nairaland General › Is Nairaland Server Flooded? by johnie(op): 12:25pm On Apr 21, 2011
I have been experiencing difficulties accessing Nairaland since last night.

I have tried 3 ISP links but keep getting 504 gateway time-out error.

This post is from my phone.

Anyone experiencing the same?
Politics › Re: The Demystification Of The North by johnie: 6:22pm On Apr 20, 2011
skydeexie:
@bermuda1, You've gotten this analysis right on the spot and dead on target too! I wonder why this topic is not on front page already. Most of the posters have digressed from the main thrust of your analysis.

Behold how the mighty monolithic north has fallen, just like the legendary Goliath. The cat has been let out of the bag - a case of united we stand, divided we fall. The north has been using this divide and rule tactics (especially the religious factor) to a very devastating and conclusive effect to achieve their secret agenda of perpetual rule.

Now they are crying like overfed and pampered babies realizing only too late that the game is finally up. They've gone up a notch higher to reveal their true basic character of killing, stealing and destruction. As a middle belter this is what we have been clamouring all along, that if we can only join forces with the entire South; politically, religiously and economically we can take charge of our various destinies and no so-called "northerner" can ride on our shoulders ever again. This is the very war that Plateau State has been fighting all these years - imagine that in the twinkle of an eye the entire north was engulfed in religious and political crisis.

As you're already aware there's no distinction between religion and politics in Islam - no separation between 'state' and 'religion', they are one and the same thing. Herein lies the crux of the matter - the South and Middle belt are always gullible in believing the muslims that such a separation exists when as matter of fact it does not. This is what they have been using as a means of control to ensure they rule us forever. To the muslim you can’t have or pursue one without the other, politics means religion and vice-versa. That is why their first target in any attack are Christians and Churches. However, belatedly our own Christian Clergy and politicians will be the first to say this fight has nothing to do with religion.

Mark it, if Nigeria finally separates or divides, guess who will first call for this separation - the North. Even in this mayhem and confusion they unleashed on us, we could hear the distant thunder and call for separation being echoed in their midst - calling for "araba" that is separate now. I might add that this might well be the beginning of the end. The pattern of election has already betrayed itself with a clear delineation and demarcation of the new boundary of two brand new countries in the making or possibly three - that is if the middle belt decides to be on its own too. What a great scenario this can turn out to be. With the entire South having Lagos as its new Capital, Middle belt having Abuja as their new Capital and the North possibly having the half of Kaduna or Kano as their own new Capital. Does this sound like a daydream? I make bold to say NO. With God all things are possible.

I would like to[b] advise the Igbos and other tribes who may not feel secure in the "New North" [/b]to start considering relocating to the Plateau [/b]as there's plenty of land especially fruitful and vast agricultural land to accommodate everybody. Plateau State will readily assist in this direction. You may not realize it, Plateau is the most friendly and peaceful State to live in regardless of all that has been happening in the recent past, of'course we all now know the cause of our problems.

If we can put our heads together and [b]sink our minor differences and misunderstandings as we have done in this election
and unless by special arrangement or agreement, no northern Hausa muslim can rule us in this country again, not ever. We need not separate in war but if it becomes inevitable given the current madness in the north, who are we to say no. The military can eventually sort themselves out in the new arrangement.

Remember, they also desperately tried to enlist sympathy from the armed forces as the last trump card in their arsenal to woo them into taking power. But the military are now the wiser for it, even though there are still some rogue elements within that establishment who will readily dance to their mischievous plans. They jubilated in some of the northern states capitals on the wild rumours that the army has “taken over” power. The so-called “North" will never remain or be the same again. Wise up Southerners and Middle Belters, there is power in UNITY especially the power of religion. Not all muslims sanctions the madness that is going on but the trouble is they must be seen to be toying the majority and Islamic view else they’ll be the worse for it. Imagine the destruction they visited on their own people just because they’re supporting the “wrong” party. That is why you will hardly hear any condemnation coming even from the educated ones. No matter what happens from now onwards, Nigeria will never be the same again in terms of political and religious re-alignments.

Given the choice of unfettered freedom, most muslims will prefer to live in a new Nigeria devoid of all this unnecessary bloodletting and wanton destruction of property in the name of religion – consequently they will opt out of islam completely if not for the death fatwa on apostasy declared by their prophet that, “Whoever changes his (Islamic) religion, kill him.” (Ibn Abbaas – Al-Bukhary No.6922) Only the brave will survive!

John 10:7-11(KJV)
"7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.


10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:
I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep."
Nice write up.


I agree that we have seen the end of what was considered the monolithic north.

I have a few questions :

1. When most people talk about the break up of Nigeria (which I do not support), they usually think the country would break into two (north and South). I find it interesting that you are suggesting three new entities – North, S. West and a third one comprise of the Middle belt , SE and SS. I find it interesting that you are appealing to the SE (which I take to mean including the SS, possibly because of oil?) to join you in the middle belt to form a new country. Question is this: What makes you think that the SS or SE will go with you. They’d rather be on their own.



2. Just as you are canvassing for them to join you, the SE would want to be on their own and probably seek to convince the SS to join them. I am not sure about the SW.

3. Meanwhile the SS will also want to be on their own without any links with the other zones. But then consider the Ijaw people who stretch across the coast of the south from Ondo through Delta , Rivers and Bayesla. What happens to them? Where will they go? Wont’ they presfer to be on their own? Do you think the Edos, Itshekiris Urhobos, Isokos and other such nationalties will go with the south west? I doubt. O you think the Ibibios and Efiks of Cross Rivers and Akwa Ibom would not want to be on their own too?

Left to me, I think Nigeria is best left as it is. We only need to work harder at this democratic project. I believe that our size and diversity is actually an asset and not a liability.
Politics › Re: Cnn: Jonathan Pledges 'new Dawn' As World Leaders Applaud Nigeria Election by johnie(op): 5:53pm On Apr 20, 2011
@kobo, follow Bawss1's advice.

Horus' instructions work.

presido1:
The only meaningful thing you have said since you joined NL.
Haba Presido1!
Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 5:45pm On Apr 20, 2011
Trump lashes out at George W. Bush and Obama

By: CNN Political Producer Shannon Travis


Palm Beach, Florida (CNN) – Donald Trump has more harsh criticism for one of the most recognizable men in the world: George W. Bush.

In a display of bipartisan bashing, Trump lashed out at the nation's 43rd president as he criticized the 44th.


"George Bush gave us Barack Obama. If it weren't for George Bush, we wouldn't have Barack Obama," Trump said on Friday. "So I'm not thrilled with George Bush."

The billionaire real estate mogul made the comments at his famed Palm Beach estate Mar-a-Lago that sits on 20 acres and boasts 126 rooms. The star of NBC's "The Apprentice" spoke to reporters in a hastily arranged news conference moments before a posh, poolside party at the estate and hours before he was to speak at a Tea Party rally.

Trump was pressed to explain his comments.

"Because he[Bush] didn't have a great presidency, especially at the end. And because of his actions, and because of his aura, it was very tough for a Republican to win," Trump said. "And in all fairness to John McCain and to Sarah Palin, I think it would have been very, very tough for anybody – for Abraham Lincoln – to win after having followed George Bush."

Trump has previously let out harsh criticism of the 43rd president.

In a March 2007 interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, Trump said, "Well, I think Bush is probably the worst president in the history of the United States." He cited the war in Iraq, calling it a "total disaster" and added later: "Look, everything in Washington has been a lie. Weapons of mass destruction - it was a total lie. It was a way of attacking Iraq."

Trump now sees Obama as deserving that notorious distinction, calling him "the worst president in the history of the United States." Among other items, Trump reasoned that the president has not done well handling foreign affairs, such as the conflict in Libya, and that "Obamacare" is bad for the country.

Headlining a Tea Party rally in Boca Raton on Saturday, Trump will make his first appearance at a campaign-like political rally this year. The rally will mirror others across the country over the weekend as conservative activists protest government spending days before Monday's deadline to file taxes.

Media and public interest in Trump has recently increased as he's questioned President Obama's birthplace. And his popularity with Tea Party activists has also increased. The reality television star boasted that interest in Saturday's rally ballooned after it was announced that he would appear.

"It was supposed to be 300 people," he said. "When they heard I was speaking, I heard it's going to be anywhere from five-to-ten thousand people."

And yet Trump has publicly supported one issue that Tea Party activists despise: the bank bailout. When asked if he can win Tea Party support given his support for this issue, Trump demurred from a direct response.

"Well I actually think the tea party is more of a party of common sense."



http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/16/trump-lashes-out-at-george-w-bush-and-obama/

Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 3:48pm On Apr 20, 2011
CA GOP official sent picture of Obama as chimp, didn’t think it was racist

By Kase Wickman
April 17, 2011 @ 10:27 pm


Marilyn Davenport, an elected member of the Orange County Republican Party central committee, said she doesn't think a photoshopped image she sent of President Barack Obama's superimposed on a chimpanzee's body is racist.

She sent the emailed the picture of Obama and two chimp parents to friends Friday, with the caption, "Now you know why — No birth certificate."


"Oh, come on!" said Davenport said to O.C. Weekly . "Everybody who knows me knows that I am not a racist. It was a joke. I have friends who are black. Besides, I only sent it to a few people--mostly people I didn't think would be upset by it."

One of the people she sent it to was County Committee Chair Scott Baugh, who, he told the LA Times [2], immediately emailed Davenport back, telling her that it was "dripping with racism and is in very poor taste."

Baugh said the most the committee could do was to censure Davenport, but he called on her to resign. Davenport says she won't.

"I'm sorry if my email offended anyone, I simply found it amusing regarding the character of Obama and all the questions surrounding his origin of birth," she said in an email to fellow party members. "In no way did I even consider the fact he's half black when I sent out the email. In fact, the thought never entered my mind until one or two other people tried to make this about race. We all know a double standard applies regarding this president. I received plenty of emails about George Bush that I didn't particularly like, yet there was no 'cry' in the media about them."

Davenport is also associated with the Tea Party, and this isn't her first political scandal.

Michael J. Schroeder, the former chairman of the California Republican Party, told the Daily Mail [3] that it was a "three strikes situation for Marilyn Davenport."

"She was a passionate defender of former Newport Beach city councilman Dick Nichols who stated that he was voting against putting in more grass at Corona del Mar's beach because, he said, there were already 'too many Mexicans on the beach'," said Schroeder.

She also sided with Los Alamitos Mayor Dean Grose, who sent out a controversial doctored email depicting the lawn of the White House converted into a watermelon patch [4], just before Obama's inauguration.

Tim Whitacre, one of Davenport's colleagues on the committee, described Davenport as a "polite, gentle grandmother" to the LA Times [5], and said she should not be punished for the email, since it was not sent in her capacity as a committee member, or to the party at large. It was a personal email, he said, one that he received and saw as "a light-hearted stab over the birther question."

Whitacre also said that Baugh was blasting Davenport as "political payback" because Davenport has criticized Baugh's leadership in the past.

URL to article: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/17/ca-gop-official-sent-picture-of-obama-as-chimp-didnt-think-it-was-racist/

URLs in this post:

[1] Davenport said to O.C. Weekly: http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/04/racist_orange_county_republica.php
[2] he told the LA Times: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/04/gop-official-defends-obama-chimpanzee-email-party-leader-calls-it-racist.html?cid=6a00d8341c630a53ef01538ded7543970b
[3] told the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1377725/Now-know-theres-birth-certificate-jokes-Tea-Party-member-racist-email-showing-Obama-parents-chimps.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
[4] lawn of the White House converted into a watermelon patch: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/25/white-house-watermelon-em_n_169933.html
[5] to the LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-davenport-20110417,0,157428.story

Politics › Re: The Nigerian Political Class And Their Foreign Counterparts by johnie(op): 3:36pm On Apr 20, 2011
Republicans will make US a ‘Third World’ country: Obama

By Agence France-Presse
April 15, 2011 @ 7:43 am


CHICAGO (AFP) – US President Barack Obama accused his Republican foes of wanting to turn the United States into a "Third World" country Thursday as he rallied support for his reelection campaign.

The attack came a day after Obama savaged Republican budget plans and unveiled his $4 trillion deficit reduction drive that aims to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans in order to preserve key social services.

The debate over fiscal policy will prove critical to the 2012 campaign, and Obama sought to frame it as a "stark choice" between investing in the future or watching the country fall apart.

"Under their vision, we can't invest in roads and bridges and broadband and high-speed rail," Obama told a select group of the Democratic faithful at the second of three fundraising events in his hometown of Chicago.

"I mean, we would be a nation of potholes, and our airports would be worse than places that we thought -- that we used to call the Third World, but who are now investing in infrastructure."

Republican plans to shrink the reach of government is "not a vision that's impelled by the numbers" but a "choice" to give a trillion dollars in tax breaks to the rich rather than ask those who have been "blessed" to "give a little more," he said.


Obama said his vision was one of an ambitious, compassionate and caring America "where we're living within our means but we're still investing in our future."

"If we apply some practical common sense to this, we can solve our fiscal challenges and still have the America that we believe in," Obama told supporters at Chicago's N9NE restaurant.

"That's what this budget debate is going to be about. And that's what the 2012 campaign is going to be about."

The events in Chicago were Obama's first fundraisers since he officially launched his bid for a second term on April 4 and were expected to raise about two million dollars (1.4 million euros).

Analysts predict Obama -- who raised a record $750 million ahead of the 2008 election -- will build a billion-dollar war chest this time around.
But money won't be enough to win, senior advisor and 2008 campaign manager David Plouffe told a crowd of 2,300 supporters gathered in a ballroom at Navy Pier ahead of Obama's speech.

"If only the people who normally vote in presidential elections vote in this election it will be too close," Plouffe said as he urged supporters to get more people involved in the campaign.

"You've got to get these people to get involved and to vote so we can make sure that we succeed in this election."


Obama established his 2012 campaign headquarters in Chicago, the first time a presidential reelection campaign was not based in Washington.

He said the campaign wanted to be "rooted in your hopes and rooted in your dreams" instead of influenced by Washington pundits and powerbrokers.

Obama reminded the cheering crowd of the sense of hope and possibility they felt when they celebrated his election as the first African-American US president in Chicago's Grant Park.

"And yet, even as we celebrated -- you remember what I said back then? I said our work wasn't ending, our work was just beginning," Obama said.

"We've still got business to do. We are not finished.

"We've got to reclaim the American dream for all Americans. That's the change we still believe in," the US leader added.

"We took office in the middle of the worst recession in our lifetimes," Obama reminded supporters. The recession, he said, was "so bad that many families are still grappling with the aftershocks, even though the economy is growing again."


Barring a dramatic turn, no major adversary from within his party is likely to challenge Obama, who turns 50 in August.

As for who might run against him from the Republican Party's ranks, uncertainty reigns.

Former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney have taken the first official steps toward candidacy, while conservative former House speaker Newt Gingrich and even real estate mogul Donald Trump have hinted at mounting bids for the Republican nomination.

In less than a month, the 64-year-old Trump has jumped from 10 to 19 percent support among Republican voters, tying with former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, according to a CNN poll released this week.

Republican officials worry that the crowded field of possible White House hopefuls could end up helping Obama, who could be vulnerable as the US economy limps out of its worst downturn since the Great Depression of the 1930s.

URL to article: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/15/republicans-will-make-us-a-third-world-country-obama/
Politics › Re: Cnn: Jonathan Pledges 'new Dawn' As World Leaders Applaud Nigeria Election by johnie(op): 2:04pm On Apr 20, 2011
^^^

roflmao
Politics › Re: Ribadu's Expensive Gamble by johnie: 1:56pm On Apr 20, 2011
Lagosboy:
This is is what Nuhu Ribadus close friend El Rufai said today and it is on SR. He must know something we all have been analysing. I am reluctant to see him as a mole but I am of th eopinion a deal was struck in the last 72 hrs before the election with or withour Ribadus knowledge.

Ribadu cannot go to CPC again IMO or maybe he could but El Rufai will always work against that as he wants to position himself now as the CPC fighter and pseudo opposition leader.

Everyday I am more convinced that Ribadus adventure was a misadventure of some sorts and he lost the gamble.
I still maintain my earlier position on this matter:

johnie:
Good to see that you guys are still having a go at this.

PapaBrown made a very interesting submission which I think has been largely dismissed but which I consider very plausible:

[b]@OP
You can look at it from another angle. What if Ribadu was in this elections all the while just to scuttle Buhari's chances.  For a job well done, he gets a top position in the Jonathan Government. He uses that position to build political capital and popular support in preparedness for 2015. He enters 2015 with more visibilty and political experience garnered from running in 2011. That to me is strategic thinking and I bet you it would serve him better than working in a Buhari party.
I also believe that was also Shekarau's strategy- use these elections to prevent a Buhari victory and garber enough exposure for 2015.

As per Tinubu, I always used to say it that  since sometime in 2009, Tinubu was in the same ship with Obasanjo. They met sometime in that period.
They had one common goal- breaking the northern hegemony!!  These two men are the greatest political strategists in Nigeria currently and they did a great job in pulling the rug of the northern hegemony!!
The Ekiti and Osun state victories were just trade-offs. Forget all those arguments between Katsina Alu and Salami.
[/b]

Don't call me a conspiracy theorist but I agree with PapaBrowne.

Let's see what GEJ makes of Ribadu in his new government!

wink
johnie:
El-rufai, maybe he learnt his politics lessons when he was FCT minister or maybe after, to me seems to have gained huge political capital from what has just happened.

If you remember, El-Rufai (like Ribadu who he shared an office with when EFCC started and also shared ideologies with) was very brash in his early days at BPE and later the FCT. Remember the spat he had with Ibrahim Mantu and co and how we went about things at the FCT? He seems to have learnt to be more calculative. He had the option of supporting Ribadu or een going against him but he chose to bid his time probably acknowledging that the time was not yet ripe for him or Ribadu.

I remember Prince Ademola Adeniji Adele who at the time he was Chairman of Lagos Island Local governement was considered by many next in line to the governorship position of Lagos. That was during the SDP/NRC days. He was a strong member of the SDP and strong backer of MKO Abiola during the June 12 debacle.

He was locked up with the likes of Polycarp Nwite, Ameh Ebute (Senate President) and other "NADECO" members while the likes of Tinubu managed to escape abroad.

By the time, the dust on June 12 had settled and Abacha organised his five fingers of the same leprous hand (political parties), Adele joined one of them and thought he could cash some of the political capital he had earned during the SDP/NADECO days.

Alas, this drew the ire of the NADECO camp  who saw him and treated him as a traitor.

Of course, the Abacha adventure fell through and inflicted further injury of Adele's political capital.

By the time "democracy" returned in 1998-1999, Adele was like an orphan who unsuccessfully tried to re-integrate himself into the progressive camp.

It took him  a while to find his balance and the best he could manage was a commisioner (for sports and youths development) position under Tinubu's godson, Fashola.

1. Ribadu will find it difficult to re-enter the northern political space as a hero where he would be seen as having betrayed the cult-hero-Buhari.
2. He would find it difficult to shake off the stigma of associating with Tinubu in trying to find space among young anti-corruption elements.
3. He would be seen as being politically naive, a pawn in the hands of Tinubu and/or Obasanjo (depending on how you look at it), as events unfold.

El-rufai on the other had would be seen by the northern elements as a succssor to Buhari. He has always potrayed himself as a nationalist lways associating wih people from the south freely and even commending people like Fashola openly even though he did similar things to what Fashola is doing now when he was in charge of the FCT.




The points highlighted about Buhari are very right. He indeed is a man of high moral principles but in democratic politics, it is very difficult to succeed[b] purely [/b] on that ground.
Politics › Cnn: Jonathan Pledges 'new Dawn' As World Leaders Applaud Nigeria Election by johnie(op): 1:45pm On Apr 20, 2011
Lagos, Nigeria (CNN) --

President Goodluck Jonathan pledged a "new dawn" for Nigeria, days after the electoral commission declared him the winner in a vote hailed as a significant improvement from past polls.

The last election four years ago was widely condemned for rampant vote rigging, violence, theft of ballot boxes and intimidation.

Though marred by violence, reports of underage voting and logistical problems, observers considered the latest election an improvement.

"This time around, one of the differences is that both local and international observers said, 'Yes, there is significant departure from the past, '" Jonathan told CNN.

World leaders declared the vote a success, but urged election officials to probe allegations including ballot stuffing and unusually high turnout in some areas.

"This historic event marks a dramatic shift from decades of failed elections and a substantial improvement over the 2007 presidential election," U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a statement.

British Foreign Secretary William Hague described the vote as a "significant step forward" for the nation.



Violence and chaos in Nigeria

Nigeria election decided amid riots

Jonathan said the vote ushers a new era for Africa's most populous nation and its biggest oil producer.

"That should tell you that what we are saying, we are going to do it and this is a new dawn," the president said. "We are going to work with all Nigerians to make sure that changes are made."

Jonathan hails from the oil-rich southern part of Nigeria, an area that is majority Christian.

Parts of the mostly Muslim north plunged into chaos after it became apparent that Jonathan had won, charging that the elections were rigged.

Rioters prowled the streets in the north, shouting the name of Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, a former military ruler and the main opposition candidate.

About 17,000 people fled their homes in the region as violence flared, the Nigerian Red Cross said.

Jonathan appealed for unity as the unrest sounded alarms for the government, prompting it to deploy the military and enforce curfews to maintain calm.

"My brothers and sisters, we are all winners," Jonathan said earlier in the week. "In this context there is no victor and no vanquished. We have demonstrated, even in our diversity, the progress of Nigeria remains paramount for all."

An investigation is under way to determine the perpetrators of the violence, which the president attributed to jobless youth.

"We've been having a crisis in the north, we've been having a crisis in the south, all the symptoms are the same,"he told CNN. "We have a number of young people that have no source of income that we must provide."

If the government does not help provide a source of income, he said, the youth are at risk of being paid to spark violence.

He declined to get into specifics on the perpetrators of the violence.

"The government will find out formally," he said. "If I make some statements, I will be biased in the minds of people and I don't want to accuse anybody."

Nigeria's elections, staggered over three weeks, conclude with the vote for governors April 26.

CNN's Christian Purefoy contributed to this report.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/04/20/nigeria.president.interview/index.html?hpt=C1
Politics › Re: Attn. Jarus, Where Is Aisha2? by johnie: 8:07pm On Apr 19, 2011
Jarus, they want to impeach you o!

Lol
Politics › Re: The Real Map Of Nigeria -the Ultimate Truth by johnie: 6:49pm On Apr 19, 2011
Onlytruth:
^^
And you think there has never been a gang up against the south?
It has happened severally in the past, but none died in the south because of it.

Guys, please lets keep this discourse sane and civil. Thank you.
So you agree that this is a gang-up?

You seem to be making two points here:
1. That the voting pattern shows the north (where CPC has majority votes) is the regular hotbed for violence
2. That the voting pattern indicated what will be the likely result of a referendum on spliting Nigeria into two - I.e. a massive yes vote!

I have decided to only discuss the second point.
Politics › Re: The Real Map Of Nigeria -the Ultimate Truth by johnie: 6:40pm On Apr 19, 2011
Are you suggesting that there is political cohesion among all the nationalities that voted (in majority) for GEJ?

Think again.

If all the the opponents of GEJ in the contest had been southerners from at least two different southern nationalities (Say One from SE and one from SW), would the voting pattern in the south have been the same?


I think not.

That's why some believe the outcome of this election is a gang-up by the south against nothern hegemony.
Politics › Re: The Real Map Of Nigeria -the Ultimate Truth by johnie: 6:27pm On Apr 19, 2011
^^^

@Onlytruth,

See, how many nationalities can we count there?
Politics › Re: Attn. Jarus, Where Is Aisha2? by johnie: 6:15pm On Apr 19, 2011
Please guys, I think you should let Aisha2 be.
Politics › Cpc Will Not Go To Court? by johnie(op): 6:12pm On Apr 19, 2011
The CPC has, however, rejected the result and said it would not recognise any winner from the presidential election.

National Secretary of the party, Alhaji Buba Galadima, said in the Hausa service of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) monitored in Kaduna at 6:30am yesterday that there was massive rigging of the election in the South-east and South-south, adding that Northerners resident in those areas where prevented from voting.

According to him, it was not possible to score 90 per cent of votes in an area where people did come out to vote.

Galadima, who recalled that Buhari went to court to challenge previous elections, added that this time around, they would not go to court, but would reject the outcome of the election.

“People didn’t come out to vote. How you can you get 90 per cent votes in a place that people didn’t come out to vote? They also prevented Northerners from coming out to vote if they are not voting Jonathan.

“There was no where elections were held in the South-east and South-south. This is more than rigging; it is armed robbery. That is what happened,” he said.

He also dismissed local and foreign observers, who declared that the election was free and fair, alleging that some state governors rigged the election in favour of Jonathan.

“It is a must for us to reject the outcome of this election. We reject the results of the election in South-east and the South-south. These states must be investigated. We would not accept the outcome of the election in those states.

According to him, “The states include Sokoto, Jigawa, Adamawa, Nasarawa, Abuja, Benue, Plateau and the rest of them. We are rejecting more than half of the results from the states. We will not accept the result of this election.

“We will not go to court; we went to court before. We will not accept anybody who emerged as winner of this election.”
Galadima was at the INEC Collation Centre with a petition to be delivered to Jega, but was denied access. Security operatives later collected the protest letter from him.

When journalists accosted him the following dialogue ensured:

Alhaji, why are you here? Are you an agent?

“I came to submit our protest; nobody will sit in his house and vote in Nigeria and expect to hear the result. I will give you the reason why I am here.” (Gave out a copy of his petition).

Where were the results written? In Abuja or where?

“It was written where they wrote them. You know where the results were written. South-east and South-south where there were no elections. I can’t give you the details now. All results must be subjected to forensic analysis before it is announced. If it is announced without forensic analysis, then we will not accept it.”

Was that part of the agreement you reached with INEC?

“Jega is sitting here. Jega cannot do everything. He had people outside and those were the people who were used to doctor the results.”

From what you are saying, we are not expecting any congratulatory message to whoever wins.

“Why? Not to us.”

From the results declared so far Jonathan’s winning.

No, no. From the actual result from the polling stations, Buhari is the winner

What is the figure of the result you consider actual?

I will tell you when the collation is completed.

When?

“When it is completed.”



http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/it-s-official-jonathan-declared-president-elect/89905/
Politics › Re: The Real Map Of Nigeria -the Ultimate Truth by johnie: 6:02pm On Apr 19, 2011
[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=650410.msg8165092#msg8165092 date=1303232193]Nuhu Ribadu will never forget the people of Osun grin[/quote]Doesn't labelling the key for Ribadu as 'former anti-corruption fighter' give the impression that it is only the people of Osun that are interested in fighting corruption in Nigeria?

lol!
Politics › Re: Attn. Jarus, Where Is Aisha2? by johnie: 5:56pm On Apr 19, 2011
Gokuu, easy, this is not time for gloating.
Politics › Re: The Real Map Of Nigeria -the Ultimate Truth by johnie: 5:51pm On Apr 19, 2011
Onlytruth:
^^
The governorship election is local and cannot be used to measure national cohesion.

Since when did someone die in Kano because someone lost gubernatorial elections anywhere in the south?

Only presidential elections are relevant here.
I am not talking about the violence.

I am saying that the division (God forbid!) would not end into parts (north-south). It's more complicated than that.

What would happen will be similar to Nuclear Fission- fission in Anthropology!

We would end up with  anumber of smaller states.

What I am saying is that those states would emerge on that map after the next set of elections.
Politics › Re: The Real Map Of Nigeria -the Ultimate Truth by johnie: 5:25pm On Apr 19, 2011
Hold your horses!

The colours on that map will change significantly after the governorship elections.

You will see at least three dominant colours in clusters. There will be two other less prominent colours.

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