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Christianity Etc › Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by johnw47: 12:09am On Sep 21, 2019
Janosky:
Johnw FRAUD Theorist, your Lies been laid bare.....
only in your blinded false accusing mind, oh know nothing lying pharisee™ Janosky/OneJ:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Janosky: *** https://www.studylight.org/
lexicons/hebrew/7069.html



** Gesenius' Hebrew and Chaldee
Definition
(1) to found, create [see note below]
the
heaven and the earth, Genesis 14:19,
22
Genesis 14:22 men, Deuteronomy
32:6;
Psalms 139:13; Proverbs 8:22.."


If you're not lying, show everyone the Hebrew meaning of the Hebrew words in Genesis 14:19,22. Genesis 4:1 and Proverb 8:22. you're here been denying....

Nothing genuine about you.....
Come and recycle your LIES
@bold, you are concerned about everyone seeing you being shown up for your false knowledge and fraud, laugh


oh duh duh duh great fraud Janosky/OneJ, qanah means: create, purchase, to own, to buy, possess, etc.
depending on content

in proverbs 8 it means to possess, God posessed wisdom, He didn't create wisdom
God always had wisdom oh most duh one
and the Word who is the personification of wisdom of course always existed in Father God

Truly Father was never without His wisdom-His Word, oh most confused and fraudulent one smiley


קָנָה
qânâh
kaw-naw'
A primitive root; to erect, that is, create; by extension to procure, especially by purchase (causatively sell); by implication to own: - attain, buy (-er), teach to keep cattle, get, provoke to jealousy, possess (-or), purchase, recover, redeem, X surely, X verily.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by johnw47: 10:57pm On Sep 20, 2019
Jesus shows in many places throughout the new testament that He is God
for those with eyes to see:

Luk_18:19  And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Mat 20:15  Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by johnw47: 10:56pm On Sep 20, 2019
Janosky:
https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/hebrew/7069.html


1 get, acquire :
a. of God as originating, creating, קֹנֵה שָׁמַיִם
וָאָרֶץ Genesis 14:19,22; Deuteronomy 32:6
(Israel), Psalm 139:13 ( כִּלְֹיתָ֑י); Proverbs8:22

c. of Eve, acquiring קַיִן , ׳אֶתיֿ (i.e. with the
help of ), Genesis 4:1 (J).



** Gesenius' Hebrew and Chaldee Definition

(1) to found, create [see note below] the
heaven and the earth, Genesis 14:19, 22
Genesis 14:22 men, Deuteronomy 32:6;
Psalms 139:13; Proverbs 8:22..

(2) to acquire for oneself, Proverbs 4:7,
15:32 16:16 19:8 Ruth 4:9, 10 to obtain,
Genesis 4:1 (Eth. ቀነየ፡ to possess, to be
owner).


Johnw FRAUD Doctrine LAID BARE...
laughing still
lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw
your continued copy and paste definitions, is because you have nothing else
you have no knowledgeable reply to my posts and the scriptures therein, of course

you heap big runaway fraud Janosky/OneJ smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by johnw47: 10:55pm On Sep 20, 2019
Janosky:
https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/
hebrew/7069.html

Home / Bible Lexicons / Hebrew Lexicon
Bible Lexicons
Old Testament Hebrew Lexical Dictionary
Entry for Strong's #7069
קָנָה
Transliteration
qânâh
Phonetics
kaw-naw'
00:00 / 00:00


Word Definition [ Brown-Driver-Briggs |
Strong ]
Brown-Driver-Briggs' Definition
1) to get, acquire, create, buy, possess
1a) ( Qal)
1a1) to get, acquire, obtain
1a1a) of God originating, creating,
redeeming His people
1a1a1) possessor
1a1b) of Eve acquiring"

***Johnw FRAUD Doctrine LAID BARE...
Johnw keeps laughing at the foolishness of his FRAUD Doctrine...
laugh
lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw
everyone knows the diffrent meanings of "qanah" depending on content
or can look it up, but you fraud Janosky/OneJ know nothing
Christianity Etc › Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by johnw47: 6:21am On Sep 20, 2019
JMAN05:
The beginning is the beginning of God creating other things.
phony mano, the beginning is the beginning of God creating all things
not all other things as your perverted nwt say's

JMAN05: God does not have a beginning, Jesus has.
oh know nothing false jw, Jesus is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

and Jesus certainally had no beginning, nothing was made without Him:

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 



JMAN05: It didn't say 'in the beginning was God", rather "in the beginning was the word".

Did u get d point?
ha ha ha, God(Father) and the Word(Jesus) were in the beginning

in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God (in the beginning)


Joh 1:2  The same was in the beginning with God. smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by johnw47: 6:01am On Sep 20, 2019
Janosky:
Genesis 4:1, how did Eve possess a child?
lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ
oh duh, eve gave birth to a child, she didn't create him, oh duh mumu brain

Janosky: Genesis 14:19, how did Yahweh possess the heaven and earth?
oh duh duh, that verse is about God owning the heaven and the earth, such a most duh false jw

and Father God always possess wisdom, He didn't create wisdom
and with the word-Jesus Christ being the personification of wisdom
is yet another scripture showing that Jesus wasn't created


Janosky: Proverb 8:22-30 & Genesis 14:19 showcase your mumu FRAUD.
you have no clue about proverbs 8 oh greatly confused fraudlent one

Gen 14:19  And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 

posessor of heaven and earth means owner of heaven and earth, laughing



oh great know nothing fraud
Christianity Etc › Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by johnw47: 3:22am On Sep 20, 2019
John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

polytheist false jw's believe that God(Father) was with "a god"
that is two god's that phony jw's believe in, a almighty god the father
and a mighty god jesus, laughing

christians(true, and some not) believes about that verse, is that Father and the word is God, supported by much scripture
and just as the verse say's without changing it, which phony jw's have done in their perverted book nwt
Christianity Etc › Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by johnw47: 3:07am On Sep 20, 2019
Janosky:
Gbagbo FRAUD, your diversionary tactic of Acts 1:8 is your ploy to derail this thread..
truly lying fraud Janosky?OneJ

christians are to witness Jesus, you false jw's witness your false jehovah who has "a god" with him

Act 1:8  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by johnw47: 2:38am On Sep 20, 2019
Janosky:
Johnw FRAUD man who confessed "the Father begat Jesus" done TWIST & change tune sharp Sharp.

Jesus and his Father is NOT "the same eternal Spirit that is God"

1 Cor 15:27
For the Scriptures say, “God has put all
things under his authority.” (Of course, when
it says “all things are under his authority,”
that does not include God himself, who gave
Christ his authority.)

Two different, separate spirit beings ,says the scriptures..., NOT Johnw FRAUD THEORY.
lying pharisee™ deceiver phony jw Janosky/OneJ
you lie about what the scriptures say
you are lying again still always, oh great fraud

the Word come Jesus Christ certainally is the Spirit of God:

2Co 3:17  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 

Gen_1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Psa 33:6  By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

Psa 104:30  Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

oh know nothing Janosky/OneJ fraud smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by johnw47: 12:41am On Sep 20, 2019
Janosky:
Johnw FRAUD man who confessed "the Father begat Jesus" done TWIST & change tune sharp Sharp.
lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

and i still say "the Father begat Jesus" oh confused cannot stop lying fraudster

Janosky: Jesus and his Father is NOT "the same eternal Spirit that is God"
lying fraud, my father is human flesh, i am of his human flesh
Father God is a eternal Spirit, the Word-Jesus is of His Fathers eternal Spirit


Janosky: 1 Cor 15:27
For the Scriptures say, “God has put all
things under his authority.” (Of course, when
it says “all things are under his authority,”
that does not include God himself, who gave
Christ his authority.)

Two different, separate spirit beings ,says the scriptures..., NOT Johnw FRAUD THEORY.
oh duh, know nothing, it's two seperate person of the one Spirit
but you satans mob will of course never know or understand things of the Spirit:

1Co 2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:46pm On Sep 19, 2019
John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

the spirit is needed to accept and know that the Word come Jesus is God

1Co 2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 

without the Spirit a person cannot know things of the Spirit

the Word being God is foolishness to false jw's
the Holy Spirit being God is foolishness to false jw's etc.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:42pm On Sep 19, 2019
Janosky:
Romans 8:3
"God did by sending His own Son in the
likeness of sinful man,"....

Rev 3:2,5,12-14,21.
Mumu Johnw FRAUD man, God's son in the spiritual realm in heaven was sent to earth in the likeness of sinful man".


Your brain has been poluted with Trinity FRAUD.
laughing, confused fraud lying pharisee™ Janosky/OneJ
Father God sent God the Word to become man, need the verses? cheesy

1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:09pm On Sep 19, 2019
Auki:
100% Correct. They used their God given brain to pass Exam only but freeze their brains and senses to the truth.
God will tell them all what they did and they will be in absolute everlasting anguish.
trinity be in "absolute everlasting anguish" for saying like God's word say's
that Father is God, for saying like God's word say's that the Word come Jesus is God
for saying like God's word say's that the Holy Spirit is God

laugh, plenty of mumu's in this place
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 10:51pm On Sep 19, 2019
Janosky:
*** Romans 8:3
" For what the Law was powerless to
do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God
did by sending His own Son in the likeness
of sinful man, as an offering for sin. He thus
condemned sin in the flesh, "


Galatians 4:4
But when the time had fully come, God sent
His Son, born of a woman, born under the
Law,"

****
Romans8:3, Galatians 4:4,

"God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man,"
PROOF, God sent his own Son in the spiritual realm, before he was born of a woman in the likeness of men, on the earthly realm.

Johnw Pharisees FRAUD man.
lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

big big fraud, God sent His own Son, oh so confused one
how does that show the son is not God, it shows the Son is not the Father, laugh
know nothing phony Janosky/OneJ who doesn't believe the multitude of scriptures showing Jesus is God
such a evil false jw, making God a liar
big confused mumu fraud

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by johnw47:
Janosky:
Okokobioko !!!!!!

You can now see that the Logos was wisdom personified at Proverbs, 8:22, (Rev3:14) a created being working with Yahweh at creation of the world.
(Genesis 4:1. 14:19. Hebrew Qanah= give birth, produce, possess, bring forth, beget, acquire, gotten ,create).

The Church Father, Tertullian wrote that stuff and debunked the FRAUD these Pharisees - bingbagbo, Johnw FRAUD and solite3 have been peddling on this forum.
lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

big big fraud, the Word cannot be created when He already existed in Father God as His eternal wisdom-as his eternal Spirit
the Word is an exact likeness of Father, being of the same eternal Spirit that is God

i have explained these things before with scriptures, but you would rather believe your god and father the devil through your false church

Janosky/OneJ, you a heap big phony jw, and liar like hell, like your daddy:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:14am On Sep 19, 2019
false jw's are of course as we know false prophets

Q. what is another name for A FALSE PROPHET
A. A FRAUD


false, phony, fraud, take your pick smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:01am On Sep 19, 2019
Barristter07:
All things were through the Father ,
lie lie™ barrister, all things were through the Father and the Word, as shown
and of course you don't believe God's word:

Father and Jesus Christ created all things:
Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ

all things are from Father and Christ:
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

^^^ that verse also shows that Father and Jesus Christ is the one God, the one Lord, like john 1:1 also shows

Father and the Word made man:
Gen_1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness


Barristter07: because he needed no agency to create Jesus who he used to made others .
Father didn't create Jesus, nothing was made that Jesus didn't make:

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him(the word); and without him was not any thing made that was made.

^^^ that verse also shows that the Word, who made everything that was made, cannot be made Himself

Barristter07: And Mr Johnw74 , enough of the lies and twisting ,
laugh, show where i have said diffrently to the bible verses i have posted, oh false accuser like your daddy:
Rev 12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night

Barristter07: Jesus is not the source ,
oh so confused false jw, the scriptures above show that Father created all things through Jesus

Barristter07: No one is called sons of Jesus .
perhaps no one is called son's of the man(flesh) Jesus
but they are called son's of God, and Father and the word is God

Barristter07: but Jesus himself and other angelic and human creations are sons of the Father .
Jesus is the only begotten Son, before He became flesh He is God the Word

confused twister lie lie barrister
1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47:
Barristter07:
U use apart from when making an Exception.

Christ was excluded from things Created through his agency, hence apart from him . or in other words, If u remove him ,



Why was he removed ? Because the Father was his own agency hence the EXCEPTION .


grin
lie lie™ barrister

you are twisting-changing God's word to try and show that the Father created without the Word

you also have a problem with the word "through"

Rom 11:36  For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

in this instance and because other verses show that Father and the word created all, it means the same as "from"
all things are through the Father, all things are through Christ




the word created all things:
Joh 1:3  All things were made by him(the word); and without him was not any thing made that was made.

^^^ that verse also shows that the Word, who made everything that was made, cannot be made Himself

Father and Jesus Christ created all things:
Eph 3:9  And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

all things are from the Father, all things are from Jesus Christ:
1Co 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

^^^ that verse also shows that Father and Jesus Christ is the one God, the one Lord, like john 1:1 also shows

Lord Jesus created the heavens and the earth:
Heb 1:10  And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 

God created the heaven and the earth:
Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

^^^ God created the heaven and the earth, Lord Jesus created the heaven and the earth

Father and the Word made man:
Gen_1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness



they are just some of very many bible verses showing that Father and the Word created all things

the verses show that Father and the Word created everything
the verses show God created everything

the verses are not just showing that Father and the word created all things
but they are also showing that Father and the Word is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.





lie lie barrister, you are truly blinded and love to twist - change God's word, making God a liar
you of course will pay greatly for that

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw47: 10:36pm On Sep 17, 2019
MrPresident1:
Jeremiah 20:7
O LORD, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived: thou art stronger than I, and hast prevailed: I am in derision daily, every one mocketh me.
ha ha, false prophet pres1, you post things like this below to people:

MrPresident1:
Where is this mumu Johnw74 sef? angry
and when people reply to your stupidity and mocking, you say they are mocking me
laugh, do you see your delusion yet, oh little girlie crybaby


also, a fales prophet deserves to be mocked smiley
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smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw47: 10:12pm On Sep 16, 2019
MrPresident1:
Where is this mumu Johnw74 sef? angry
poor tormented false prophet pre1

Pro_26:11  As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

i am always under your skin without even posting to you, excellent
you deserve it smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Other Evidence Do You Need To Believe That Jesus IS Darkskinned? by johnw47: 10:07pm On Sep 16, 2019
MrPresident1:
Johnw47 Johnw74
poor tormented false prophet pre1

Pro_26:11  As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 12:49am On Sep 16, 2019
Father is King of kings and Lord of lords:
1Ti_6:15  Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords:
Rev_17:14  These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

these verses clearly show that Father and Jesus is King of kings and lord of lords
hence that Father and Jesus is God, as John also shows:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 


blueAgent of no understanding copied and pasted others commentarys at great length, to try and show that those verses are lies. of course sewer mouth beelzebubAgent failed miserably

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:25pm On Sep 15, 2019
johnw47:
The Holy Spirit is God

Mat 1:20  But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Janosky:
Wacky post.
lying pharisee™ Janosky/OneJ

if your false jw church had told you that the Holy Spirit is God you would believe it
but because the Bible shows the Holy spirit is God, and that goes against your false doctrines
you don't believe it and call it wacky, making God a liar.
you think nothing will come of it, but truly you will be judged on every blasphemous word that
has come out of your lying mouth, oh evil as can be false jw

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 3:39am On Sep 15, 2019
bears repeating: smiley

johnw47: The Holy Spirit is God


God who is a Spirit, john 4:24, is the Father of Jesus Christ, and mary who is flesh is the mother of Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ is both God and man


Mat 1:20  But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

^^^ we know that Father God is the Father of Jesus Christ, and the above verse shows that the Holy spirit is the father of Jesus Christ
which = the Father is God - the Holy Spirit is God



and so God the Holy Spirit Fathered Jesus the Christ, who is God the Word, john 1:1, made flesh



^^^ Father is God, The Holy Spirit is God, The Word become Jesus Christ is God
smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47:
blueAgent:
[/quote][quote author=blueAgent post=82243029]
[quote author=blueAgent post=82243056][/quote]ha ha ha, no wonder Agent, a no nothing has to stay away for days to find and copy all of that
i doubt any will read it all, let alone reply to a one of no understanding and confusion

Luk 23:9  Then he questioned with him in many words; but he answered him nothing.
^^^ Jesus didn't continue to reply to a sewer mouth false accuser of no understanding either smiley


beelzebubAgent, one of absolutely no understanding of the bible, or of anything for that matter:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Ecc_5:7  For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear thou God.

Mat_7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Equal With God by johnw47:
Janosky:
Gbagbo Mumu FRAUD of a Pharisee....

John17:20-24.
Jesus Prays for All Believers
20 “I do not pray for these alone, but
also
for those who [ j ]will believe in Me
through
their word; 21 that they all may be
one, as
You, Father, are in Me, and I in You;
that
they also may be one in Us, that the
world
may believe that You sent Me.
22 AND THE GLORY WHICH YOU GAVE
ME ,I have given them,
that they may be one just as We are
one: 23
I in them, and You in Me; that they
may be
made perfect in one, and that the world
may
know that You have sent Me, and have
loved
them as You have loved Me.
24 “Father, I desire that they also
whom You
gave Me may be with Me where I am,
that
they may behold MY GLORY WHICH
YOU HAVE GIVEN ME; for You loved Me
before the foundation of the world."

If you were a true follower of Jesus, his words at John17:20-24 won't make you so vicious..
cheesy
hypocrite
Jesus say's about you false jw's and your forefathers:

Mat 23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47:
Janosky:
,@1)
Johnw FRAUD is saying that Jesus is God, DISTINCT from God his Father
oh great fraud and twister of everything said, false jw Janosky/OneJ
i have always said the Word and the Father is the one God as per john 1:1,
look back at my posts and try and quote me truthfully, ha ha, impossible

Janosky: = Jesus is God is NOT the Father God, equals Two distinct Gods..
laughing, oh no twisting false jw
= Jesus is God, and Father is God, two persons, one God, john 1:1, oh huge twisting cannot stop lying mumu fraud

not two gods as you polytheist false jw's believe in, a almighty god the father, and a mighty god jesus, laugh

Janosky: Johnw FRAUD confirms his John 1:1 claims as FRAUD.
ha ha such a liar and blinded one:
2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky: More so, the lying Pharisee doesn't even know the Greek meaning of his John 1:1 FRAUD.
oh but i do know the greek of john 1:1 and i have corrected your confused meaning to you more than once, oh cannot stop lying , tormented twister of God's word
i have explained it to you that even a child could understand, but not a confused mumu smiley

twisting fraud Janosky/OneJ, john 1:1 doesn't mean "the Word was with God and the word was "a god"
that's two god's that you polytheist false jw's believe in



Janosky: John 14:28, "The Father is greater than I am ", says Jesus.
Rev3:12,in the Spirit realm his Father's Superiority is non negotiable.
Johnw FRAUD ,lying Pharisee wey no get sense......
the Father is greater than Jesus, and Father and the Word is God, oh such a duh one of no understanding
go back and read all the scriptures again, but believe them, laughing

false jw Janosky/oneJ, such a huge fraud and twister of God's word, true

and oh sooooo confused cheesy

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47:
Janosky:
Ephesians 1:3
"All praise to God, the Father of our Lord
Jesus Christ, "
laugh, repeating your same confusion, over and over again, post after post

lying pharisee™ Janosky/oneJ

Eph 1:3  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

deceiver, that verse doesn't show that Jesus is not God, oh so confused one.
and of course the word who became Jesus is God, like so many verses show, and which you don't believe:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Janosky: Compare Rev 3:5,12-14.
PROOF Johnw FRAUD is a LEGENDARY MUMU....
who goes to extremes to TWIST the Scriptures ...
YEYE FRAUD Man with FRAUD DOCTRINE.
ha ha, tormented cannot stop lying know nothing

Rev 3:5  He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

oh most confused one, that verse doesn't show that Jesus is not God either, one of no understanding at all

Rev 3:12  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. 
Rev 3:13  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. 
To the Church in Laodicea
Rev 3:14  And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

the beginning of the creation of God; = Jesus began the creation of Father God, as scriptures show.
the word Jesus Christ made all things, without Him nothing was made, nothing was made that Jesus didn't make, john 1:3
showing that Jesus wasn't made. i talked much about this with scriptures, alas you don't believe God's word


know nothing false jw, those verses show that Father is the God of Jesus , they don't contradict all the many verse showing that Jesus is also God
just a couple:

Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

^^^ these two hebrew verses, as well as showing that the Father is Jesus God, show that Father and Son is God, just as John 1:1 does
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

oh great fraud Janosky/OneJ twister of God's word.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 6:46am On Sep 14, 2019
Rev_21:23  And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.



God will lighten the huge city - the New Jerusalem
the Lamb will be the light of it

once again showing that the Lamb is God
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 12:47am On Sep 14, 2019
Janosky:
John20:28, U call me " My Lord and my God"
and I already told you (in John20:17); ," I am going to your Father and my Father, your God and my God",
lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

Father God is the Father and God of Jesus, and you think that shows that Jesus is not God
oh most duh one, that shows that Jesus isn't the Father, but The Word:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 




Janosky: John20:17,is Jesus saying that he is the God and Lord and Father whom Thomas referred to?
oh most confused one, thomas wasn't referring to the Father as my Lord and my God
thomas was referring to Christ as my Lord and my God, which of course is true,
i have posted many scriptures showing that Jesus is God, which you of course don't believe
making God a liar

Janosky: Revelation 3:5,12, who did Jesus say is his God and Father in heaven?
Sin

Jesus said " that God was his Father,".
Compare John 10:33,36.
oh duh, over and over again confusion after confusion


Janosky: If Mr Olamide said that " God was his Father", does that statement actually mean that Mr Olamide "is making himself equal with God"?
duh duh duh duh duh, olajigaolamide isn't God the Word

pathetic know nothing
Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47:
Janosky:
Wacky post.
So, God impregnated Mary to give birth to himself?
lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

oh so duh one, mary gave birth to the Christ who is God the word, not the Father, john 1:14, john 1:1
ha ha, you have as much understanding as the op, of course

[quote author=Janosky ]In other words, You have endorsed Mary as mother of God..
Mumu Johnw FRAUD ....[/quote]mary is the mother of Jesus the man, she is not the mother of His Spirit - the Word of God
oh most duh one of no understanding, a clone of the op

you lot have been blinded by your daddy, is clear, laugh:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

how you hate the Truth smiley
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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