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MrPresident1:
Fool

poor tormented ™false prophet pre1

laugh, say's nairaland's biggest

1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

some churches are having differences of opinions on
homosexuality, homosexual marriage, homosexual ministers, etc.

and of course the sects who mostly agree with their peers, is because their god and deceiver satan
loves to have God's churches having differences, while his churches appear righteous

concerning the false jw sect:
Mat 23:28  Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

non denominational bible believing christianity is the way to go
apart from the staunch christian churches

john 17:23 is about Jesus apostles, and it also applies to christians since Christ
today christians are persecuted daily around the world

some unbelievers who know no better, think false jw's are christian, so they may have sometimes been targeted


Joh 17:14  I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 
Joh 17:15  I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 
Joh 17:16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 
Joh 17:17  Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 
Joh 17:18  As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 
Joh 17:19  And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 
Joh 17:20  Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 
Joh 17:21  That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 
Joh 17:22  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 
Joh 17:23  I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.


true christians are all considered righteous, and are one with each other and with Christ through faith
no matter what denomination they belong to

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.

and boy do false jw's ever boast in thinking they are saved

Maximus69:
Jesus loved everyone but the Pharisees made themselves his enemies, Janosky, Barrister, OneJ and a host of my brothers out their love johnw47

™false jw mad max

ha ha ha, janosky, barrister, max, and a host of your brothers love johnw47
what a typical load of puffed up false jw bull
it was you false jw mad max, that first posted to me
and your post were anything but loving
go read it, sickening liar

and of course we know who the descendants of the pharisees are:

Mat_23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Maximus69: but he kept accusing and cursing us repeatedly,

i kept saying the truth about you, oh habitual liar

Maximus69: for instance he labelled me as MAD MAX

laugh, you are mad ,with a foul tongue and puffed up to boot:

Maximus69:

it will take at least SIX fully armed military police officers to subdue just one single military intelligence officer of my kind

i'll make him eat and drink through his anus!



twelve Combatant mobile police officers are just like bloody civilians before one military intelligence officer!

Maximus69: not because i ever insulted him,

oh cannot stop lying pharisee, laughing

Maximus69: just because i'm of another faith.

oh poor false jw, i do show up yout church of satan, don't i

Maximus69: So Janosky is responding to johnw47 the way Jesus responded to Pharisees who kept insulting, accusing and cursing him! John 8:44

laughing, you know very well oh cannot stop lying mad max
that it is i who responds to pharisee false jw's like Jesus did to your fore fathers:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Maximus69: While i have ignored him completely! Ecclesiastes 3:7

you stopped posting to me because i exposed the lies in your every post to me
just like i have exposed your lies in this post about me

Maximus69: Either way both of us are responding based on his attitudes towards us. Each only chooses what to do as God's holy spirit directs our heart!

your impersonable spirit isn't holy but is satan himself, true


mad max you are such a phony cry baby and of course lie like hell


Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

MrPresident1:
The LORD thundered. That thunder is the trumpet.

The sound of the trumpet is the thunder

Stiffnecked John

™false prophet pre1

i see, thunder is trumpet, laughing

1Sa_2:10  The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them: the LORD shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed.

out of heaven shall He trumpet upon them, ha ha


thunder
רָעַם
râ‛am
raw-am'
A primitive root; to tumble, that is, be violently agitated; specifically to crash (of thunder); figuratively to irritate (with anger): - make to fret, roar, thunder, trouble.






Jdg_6:34  But the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet; and Abiezer was gathered after him.

the Spirit of the LORD blew a thunder, laugh


trumpet
שֹׁפָר    שׁוֹפָר
shôphâr    shôphâr
sho-far', sho-far'
in the original sense of incising; a cornet (as giving a clear sound) or curved horn: - cornet, trumpet.


really false prophet, you are wrong in everything

thunder/raam, is not trumpet/shopher



2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

MrPresident1:
The LORD thundered with his voice

Psalm 18:13
The Lord also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.

yes, the Lord's voice was loud, it roared.
laughing, oh confused ™false prophet pres1

1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Janosky:
Explain what?
Are you kidding me?
Some thing is wrong with your reasoning ability... You've lost it.

laugh, poor ™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

everything is confusion to you:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

MrPresident1:
Stiffnecked John, which version of the Bible, you liar, did you see roar-shouted? I thought you have been quoting from KJV all along, but in order not to agree with what I am saying, note that your agreement is worth nothing, you went searching for translations of thunder to roar-shouting, what is the meaning of roar-shouting? Why don't you continue quoting from your roar-shouting bible? Why use it on only this occasion and then revert to KJV afterwards? John, to make yourself credible, continue with your roar-shouting Bible.

You are a stiffnecked liar, and your ego is your undoing.

When you accept that your Master is a darkskinned Negro, your enlightenment will start.

laughing, such is the confused babble of poor tormented ™false prophet pres1


Joh 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father.

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

MrPresident1: 1 Samuel 2:10
The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them: the Lord shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed.

2 Samuel 22:14
The Lord thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice.

1Sa 2:10  The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder(raam) upon them: the LORD shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed.

^^^ out of heaven shall He thunder-roar upon them

2Sa 22:14  The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice. 

the LORD thundered-roared with His voice

thundered in these verses means to be loud-to roar




thundered
רָעַם
râ‛am
raw-am'
A primitive root; to tumble, that is, be violently agitated; specifically to crash (of thunder); figuratively to irritate (with anger): - make to fret, roar, thunder, trouble.


extremely confused false prophet pre1

all of your confusion and lying and changing the subject is to get away from the fact that you keep making false prophecies and are a false prophet
but then you are even wrong on the subjects that you run away to

such a duh false prophet, false accuser, false everything

Maximus69:





They're not targeting anyone's wealth.
They're not after dominating others with politics.
They're not forcing anyone to join them.
They're ready to teach anyone what they know.
They're the most peaceful global group.
They're never part of the ruling class.
They're never part of any kind of war.

They're not targeting anyone's wealth.
They're not after dominating others with politics.
They're not forcing anyone to join them.
They're ready to teach anyone what they know.
They're the most peaceful global group.
They're never part of the ruling class.
They're never part of any kind of war.
They're wolves in sheeps clothing.

Mat_7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Janosky:
Stop your rants.
Isaiah 9:6 , NEVER spoke ANYTHING about creation .
Your invented Jesus is "Everlasting Father of Creation"
Show us the Bible where you coined your FRAUD.

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ
and way heap big fraud

i already explainse it to you, and of course you don't understand
but here it is again:

johnw47:
™lying pharisee deveiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

laughing, oh duh duh duh
Jesus is the Everlasting Father, and Jesus created the angels, man, and all things
so Jesus is Everlasting Father of Creation

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

such a so so so blinded duh one


2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Janosky:
Now that the previous post exposed your Hebrews 1:8 FRAUD, you quickly jump to "Father and the Word is God" LIE.
Your LIE NOT in any authentic verse(s) of the Bible.
Shame on you, Johnw FRAUD.

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

truly you never ever expose anything but your lies, however your frauds are exposed every time i reply to you

oh know nothing, God in john 1:1 is referring to the Father
Father and the Word is God. not "LIE" as you say, oh great fraud and liar, but truth:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the word was God

Janosky: *@1)

Exodus 4:15,16, Yahweh was with Moses, Moses was God. Moses is Yahweh.
Your John 1:1 satanic FRAUD twisting your mumu brain.

Johnw FRAUD man Pharisee.

laughing, that confusion is of course yours, not mine,

Janosky: @*2).
Psalm 45:6 (NIRV) Your throne is the
very throne of God. Your kingdom will
last for ever and ever. You will rule by
treating everyone fairly.
** The Son Jesus Christ in heaven is sitting on the throne of God his Father's throne. Compare Rev 3:21. Luke1:31-33.1Chro29:23.

again, non comprehend anything one
"Jesus throne is the throne of God" as i say
not: "God is your throne" as you say. God is not a throne oh so duh one

Janosky: Johnw FRAUD man, ogidigan of LIE,LIE.
Please, STOP twisting the holy Bible for your mumu FRAUD. -"God sits at the right hand on His Father on the throne of God"

oh duh most confused one, truly Jesus sits on the righ hand of His Father on the throne of God
read the scriptures again, ha ha ha, reading them again makes no difference to a truly blinded non believer:

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



deceiver Janosky/OneJ

your mixing your words with mine is to try and confuse the matter
and hide your fraud and lies

truly God is not a throne, Jesus does not sit on God, but on His right hand
and i remind you again that Jesus doesn't literally sit on God's right hand
it means Jesus sits to the right of Father on the throne of God

but don't worry yourself, you will never understand anything, just go back into unconsciousness


1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

concerning the wicked:
Psa 10:7  His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity. 

^^^ describes you exactly oh cursing deceiver and fraud Janosky/OneJ

MrPresident1:
John, you have not answered this question

™false prophet pres1

i did reply to your nonsense, oh cannot stop lying one
go and read it again

Joh 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father.

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


[quote author=MrPresident1 ]The knowledge has modulated, another prophecy has unfolded, if I did not give 30th September, it would have been difficult to move to this next higherlevel. Do not let the dates be your stumbling block to knowledge.[/quote]the very confused excuses - lies of a false prophet:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Isn't He lovely
Isn't He wonderful
I never thought I'd ever see
Someone Lovely as He
Isn't He a Lovely Saviour, yeah

Janosky:
**@1)
Revelation 3:5,12, Did Jesus (now spirit) say Yahweh (spirit) is his Father in heaven?
Where is the equality in heaven ?
VERDICT :
Is John14:28 = Revelation 3:5,12, in the spiritual realm ?
Answer: Yes,200%.
In Spiritual realm Yahweh is GREATER than Jesus. No equality.
**@2)
Hebrews 1:8 is a true copy of Psalm 45:6.
Psalm 45:6 (RSV) Your divine throne
endures for ever and ever. Your royal
scepter is a scepter of equity;


Psalm 45:6 (NIRV) Your throne is the
very throne of God. Your kingdom will last
for ever and ever. You will rule by treating
everyone fairly.

Psalm 45:6 (MSG) "Your throne is God's
throne, ever and always; The scepter of
your royal rule measures right living.


Psalm 45:6 (CEB) Your divine throne is
eternal and everlasting. Your royal
scepter is a scepter of justice.


Psalm 45:6 (GNT) The kingdom that God
has given you will last forever and ever.
You rule over your people with justice;"
**** Revelation 3:21, Jesus Christ says it's his Father's throne,your Heb1:8 na wash !!
Compare 1Chron29:23. Luke1:31-33.
Johnw FRAUD Hebrew 1:8 is a FRAUD.


***@3)
If we were to assume on your FRAUD Hebrew 1:8 , why will Yahweh anoint 'God Jesus' above 'thy fellows' in the spirit realm?

**SERIOUS FOOD for thought**#
(*I)
If Yahweh and Jesus were coequal in the spiritual realm, why will Yahweh anoint Jesus 'above thy fellows' inferior to Yahweh ?
(ii)
It is pointless for one spirit being to anoint another coequal spirit being.
Only a Superior Being with superior powers can anoint another being.
**PROOF
** Yahweh is far far Superior to Jesus Christ in the spiritual realm.

Johnw FRAUD, shame on you and your Trinity scam.
Johnw FRAUD no get sense, no thanks to the Trinity scam.
Kikikikiki

™lying pharisee deveiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

Jehovah is a name for God, and Father and the Word is God, john 1:1

would you like me to post again some verses showing that Jesus is Jehovah? smile




you still believe that the Father is Jesus throne, Father is a throne
Jesus sits on His Father, laugh, oh so duh one
truly Jesus sits at the right hand on His Father on the throne of God
which makes perfect sense with Father and the Word being God

Mar_16:19  So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God(Father).

^^^ Jesus didn't literally sit on Father's right hand, but to the right of Him, i need to point that out to you,




you say your confusion over and over again oh great confused fraud
but then it's all you have






Father never said to a angel sit at my right hand:

Heb_1:13  But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

^^^ of course i have seen you false jw's do the twist on that one too




1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Janosky:
"Everlasting Father of Creation"
Where is that your FRAUD in Isaiah 9:6?
: Johnw FRAUD shame on you.

™lying pharisee deveiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

laughing, oh duh duh duh
Jesus is the Everlasting Father, and Jesus created the angels, man, and all things
so Jesus is Everlasting Father of Creation

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

such a so so so blinded duh one


2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Janosky:
Johnw FRAUD, the entire Hebrew chapter 1, shows that Yahweh elevated Jesus Christ above angels,his peers/companions in heaven where Christ was elevated.
Verses 4-6,9 is CRYSTAL CLEAR.

Which of the apostles was mentioned in Hebrew chapter 1?
Johnw FRAUD is a PATHETIC LIAR.

@underline, ha ha ha, you keep saying it oh false accuser but cannot show it, laugh


™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

@bold, of course like your daddy the devil you cannot stop lying and twisting God's Word, making God a liar

the verse does not say angels are Jesus peers as you lie and say
and of course you don't realise that Jesus(as man) being elevated above the angels show that the angels are not His peers, laugh, so duh

Heb 1:4  Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

fellows-peers was mentioned later concerning Jesus and the apostles on earth, they are all men and fellows - peers

Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 

Janosky: Bible > Strong's > Greek > 32
◄ 32. aggelos
►
Strong's Concordance
aggelos: an angel, messenger
Original Word: ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: aggelos
Phonetic Spelling: (ang'-el-os)
Definition: a messenger, angel
Usage: a messenger, generally a
(supernatural) messenger from God, an
angel, conveying news or behests from God
to men.
HELPS Word-studies
32 ággelos – properly, a messenger or
delegate – either human (Mt 11:10; Lk 7:24,
9:52; Gal 4:14; Js 2:25) or heavenly (a
celestial angel); someone sent (by God) to
proclaim His message.

[ 32 ( ággelos ) can refer to "a human
messenger" (cf. John the Baptist, Mt 11:10,
quoting Mal 3:1; see also Lk 7:24, 9:52).

*** 32 ( ággelos ) can refer to "a human
messenger "
Humans ,anyone bearing Yahweh's message is an envoy, messenger, aggelos.=angel.
John7:16.

***Johnw FRAUD it's not too late for you to repent from Falsehood.

laughing, oh false accuser like your daddy

i have dictionarys and i know that aggelos can refer to a messanger, angel or human
and i know aggelos can refer to a angelic being as opposed to a human being

you have nothing so you post anything, you heap way big pharisee fraud



poor tormented false accuser like your daddy:

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

MrPresident1:
The prophecy is epochal. If you weren't stiffnecked you should know by now, by experience, that the dates I give are turning points for a further deeper understanding of prophecies and Scriptures. It is like progressing from one high level to a higher level.

But Uncle John with the stiffneck cannot understand, because he cannot accept that his Master is darkskinned; this is the beginning of knowledge. You fail to cross it, you continue in ignorance

false prophet pres1

when you are shown up for your false prophecy failures, you lie and falsely accuse
but such is a evil lying false prophet, taking after your daddy:

Rev 12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

MrPresident1:
And I know that you are stiffnecked too

Acts 7:51
Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

false prophet pres1

of course you false prophets are false accusers, liars, like your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:41  Ye do the deeds of your father.

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Luk 18:11 
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 


the pharisee's prayer was about himself and was about glorifing himself
and about how other men are evil

it is exactly the same with pharisee false jw mad max and other false jw's, he is often claiming false jw's are the only ones living God's way and how all others are not, and showing how preety(he thinks) false jw's are, posting many photos of them having pride in their appearance

they must think the poor disciples of Jesus clothed in sack cloth are not saved, oh duh duh duh, such is evil false jw

the self-exalting pharisees= the false jw's


1Co 13:4  Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

MrPresident1:
Now we know that an asteroid strike on the earth is the day of judgment.

1. There will be lightning
2. Followed by the sound of the trumpet (thunder)
3. Then all the tribes of the earth shall mourn
4. Then we all will see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven

false prophet pres1

a asteroid striking the earth causing much destruction did not happen before the 30 september 2019 as you falsely prophesied

Jesus didn't return before the 30th september 2019 as you falsely prophesied, etc.

MrPresident1:
I told you that the dates that I give are epochal but you think I am joking or lying. I am neither lying nor joking. People like stiffnecked John aka Johnw47 and gobuchinny aka hopeless fellow do not understand anything.

false prophet pres1, i don't think you are lying, i know you are lying


Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
The Hebrew word for angels also mean son of God, that alone means Jesus Christ is an angel, anointed above his peers ={other angels, Hebrew1:4-6,9).
Solite3 lying Pharisees, angels are Elohim.
The truth is bitter.

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

quote: "The Hebrew word for angels also mean son of God, that alone means Jesus Christ is an angel"/quote

laughing, in the Old testament, just and pious men, and the kings of israel are all called "sons of God"
does that alone mean they are angels too, ha ha

Jesus the man was anointed above his fellows the apostles

read the whole hebrews chapter it shows clearly that Jesus is not a angel
that is clearly to those who don't twist - pervert God's word, making him a liar


false jw's:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Maximus69:
Only God existed from everlasting, everything /everyone else came through creation!

God is the only person that differs from all other heavenly creatures. Apart from God, every other spirit being in heaven are angels!

God first created one angel and this was the one referred to as the archangel,

™false jw mad max

Father never created anything except through the Word Jesus Christ
the Word Jesus Christ created everything including the angels:

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him;(the Word) and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Maximus69: this firstborn creature joined his father in creating all other things, his name according to the Bible is Michael, he is the same person God sent as Jesus!

the word Jesus Christ created all things including michael the angel
nothing was created without the Word Jesus Christ, scriptures above

Maximus69: God never called angels his son because they've always being his sons, they're spirits like him so it's pointless saying "they're my sons when you can't see them"! Genesis 6:1, Job 1:6
When Michael was transformed into an embryo to grow up amongst humans, God had to declared from heaven that this one is his son because people can see him living amongst them like any other descendant of Adam who had inherited sin!

Jesus denier and God's Word twister, God the Word(not michael a angel) became man, and he was not like every other man
every other man couldn't do the miracles that Jesus did
Jesus never sinned, no other man has not sinned:

1Pe 2:22  Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

Maximus69: So God spoke from heaven concerning Jesus so that John the baptist can know that his duty as the one to prepare the way for God's anointed one has been accompanied when the Christ arrived!

To illustrate this, consider where you're living with your wife, inside your mansion, any child found in the same abode "in your likeness" no doubt is your child. God is a spirit being and angels as well are spirit beings!

You only need to tell people if such a child is found elsewhere, perhaps in the midst of strangers. It's then you need to single out your own son and say "this is my son"! Matthew 3:17, Luke 9:35

Well that's exactly what God did in the case of Michael {Jesus} after transforming him into human to be born, bread and grow up amongst sinners!

^^^ what know nothing babble, of course


God is God(Father) and the Word(Jesus Christ)
not God(Father) and the angel (michael):

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

the Word created all that was created:

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him;(God the Word, not michael the angel) and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:16  For by him(God the Word, not michael the angel) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

the man Jesus Christ is not a angel
He was made better than the angels
Father God has never said to a angel "Thou art my Son"
the angels worship the Lord Jesus Christ VVV:

Heb 1:4  Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 
Heb 1:5  For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 
Heb 1:6  And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.


Father of course calls the Lord Jesus: "God"
Father, the God of Jesus, anointed Jesus(the man) above His fellows, the apostles

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


Father never said to a angel: "sit at my right hand"

Heb 1:13  But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?


michael could not rebuke satan, but said: "the Lord rebuke you"

Jud_1:9  Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.


the Lord Jesus rebuked satan:

Luk_4:8  And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan:




michael the angel was of course created
God the Word come Jesus Christ created all things, which of course includes michael the angel 

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.




all things were made by him = He wasn't made

without him was not any thing made that was made = He wasn't made

by him were all things created = He wasn't created

all things were created by him, and for him = He wasn't created


he is before all things = He is God

by him all things consist = He is God






false jw's:

Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

MrPresident1:
John, the major problem of your life is that you cannot accept that Jesus is a dark-skinned person. But that is your problem to deal with, all these raving about failure of my prophecies is just you struggling with a basic truth and fact, accept it stiffnecked John, Jesus is a dark skinned guy.

you false prophet pres 1 of course cannot stop lying
it matters not to me what color skin Jesus had, but it sure it bothering you, bringing it up all the time
and you have changed the subject to try and get away from your many false prophecies

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

MrPresident1: Also John, I have never given a false prophecy on Nairaland , all the dates I have given have turned out to be epochs, but the major challenge is that you are not spiritual enough to take note of the modulation of epochs.

Stiffnecked John

cannot stop lying false prophet, your saying Jesus will return by 30th september 2019
and it doesn't happen is a false prophesy

your saying the earth is going to be hit by a asteroid with much destruction by 30th september 2019
and it doesn't happen is a false prophecy

you cannot stop lying false prophet pres1 and you have been making these lying false prophecies for many years
oh liar:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Janosky:
John14:28. John20:17. Matt 3:16,17. Matt16:13-17. Rev3:5,12.
Jesus Christ in heaven says his Father and God is your God.
Brocab, do you believe the words of Jesus Christ?

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ 

oh duh duh duh, you know not the scriptures but wan't them to say other, like a good little false jw


Joh 14:28  Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Jesus' Father(Spirit) is greater than Jesus(flesh), well who would have thought, laugh


Joh 20:17  Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. 

Father is the God of Jesus, oh duh pharisee Janosky/oneJ, and Father called Jesus God also:

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

@underline, Father and Son is God:
john 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Mat 3:16  And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 
Mat 3:17  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Father said he is well pleased with His Son, oh duh, really who knew that
the verses also shows along with matthew 28:19 that Father and Son and the Holy Spirit is God;

Mat_28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Janosky:
** Hebrew 10:10-13

10 And by that will we have been sanctified
through the offering of the body of
Jesus Christ once for all.

11 Every priest stands
daily ministering and offering
time after time the same sacrifices,
which can never take away sins;


12 but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,

13 waiting from that time onward UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE A FOOTSTOOL FOR HIS FEET.


*** Hebrews 10:10-13 says Jesus Christ "SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD," (to sit on his Father's throne) after his sacrificial death and resurrection to heaven.
"the government shall be upon his shoulder " & he shall become "The Everlasting Father" at the same time (as prophesied in Isaiah 9:6.)

Johnw FRAUD you sabi LIE.

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

laughing, the lengths you false jw's go to, to deny the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

Jesus after making one sacrifice for sins sat down at the right hand of His Father
is not saying Jesus didn't create all things, is not saying Jesus isn't Creator - Father of man etc.

so according to you know nothing false jw, when Jesus created the angels He was not the Father of the Angels

according to you denier of the Lord, when the Lord Jesus created man He was not the Father of man

Mighty God the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ certainly is the Everlasting Father of Creation:

Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.




lying pharisee false accusing fraud Janosky/OneJ:

Mat 10:33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 



Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

MrPresident1:
Who goes there? It's Uncle John with the stiff-neck.

poor false prophet pres1

you are to much of a weakie to admit your wrongs
and instead you lie and accuse like your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.




1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


the destiny of liars - false accusers like satan:

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Barristter07:
Thank God u said probably, because it doesnt correlate, if Jesus is a Father, who are his children ?

If he was the Creator, who are his sons ?

oh buh blindeed ™lie lie barrister
it's already been shown with scriptures that the Word Jesus Christ created all that was created
but of course you don't believe God'word making Him a liar

the Word Jesus created the angels so He is Father of the angels
the word Jesus created man so He He is Father of man
the word Jesus created all things so He is the Father of all things


the Word Jesus Christ - Mighty God, is the Everlasting Father:

Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


oh very duh blinded lie lie:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

MrPresident1:
Stiffnecked john

stiffnecked
adjective: haughty and stubborn.


cannot stop lying and falsely accusing false prophet pres1

lying son of your father the devil, you are the haughty one claiming many prophecies
lying son of your father the devil, you are the stubborn one, refusing to admit all of your false prophecies failed

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Maximus69:
Yes! Jesus became father that very minute he purchased NOT all souls but OBEDIENT mankind with his blood!

Adam became father of all humans by having sex with Eve his wife to start procreating.

Satan became father the very minute Eve joined him in rebelling against God's sovereignty.

But none of them is like our overall heavenly father JEHOVAH who is the father of both Adam{Luke 3:38}, Jesus {Matthew 17:5} and Satan {Job 1:6}. He only gives life everlasting to those who proves to be his children by wholeheartedly subjecting themselves to do his will, that's why Jesus will never accept anyone as his brother if such a person is not ready to do the will of JEHOVAH {Jesus' father} Matthew 12:46-50

@underline, false jw compares Jesus the Everlasting Father with satan the father of liars
such is false jw's denial of the Lord and saviour Jesus Christ in so so many things
and in this instance denying that the Word Jesus Christ has been Everlasting Father since creating the Angels

Mat 10:33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.



"Jesus Everlasting Father" is not to be compared with "father of lies the devil"

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

MrPresident1:
Stiffnecked John

false prophet pres1

weakie, you are wrong in every post and you can admit none of it
but such is a godless false prophet:


1Jn_4:1  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Maximus69:
That is why Jesus the great Prince who spent so much trying to make Peace between God and sinful humans will become father to all exercising faith in him forever!Isaiah 9:6

@underline, you ™false jw mad max, of course cannot admit that the Word is already Father having created man and all things. you either don't understand isaiah 9:6 or you purposely falsely interpreter it, or both

the Word is Father from Everlasting, even before He created the world and man,
He is Father from when He created the angels in eternity, not just from when some came to have faith in Him:

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.