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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 4:21am On Jul 21, 2017
emmanuelex1:
ALRIGHT I WANTED A HEALTHY DISCUSSION TO SHOW YOUR IGNORANCE BUT YOU RESULTED TO INSULTS. NEVERTHELESS I WILL SHOW FEW OF MY EXPLANATION AND WILL STOP AT THAT BECOS I DO NOT WANT TO BE TEMPTED TO INSULT YOU FOR CALLING ME DEVIL AND A LIAR. GOD BLESS YOU AS YOU READY THE BELOW.

CATHOLIC RECITATION SHOWING JESUS IS THE ONE WE ACTUALLY WORSHIP - HERE ARE THE MAIN PRAYERS OF THE ROSARY
• In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost
• I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day he rose again. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sin, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. (Said before the Rosary)
• Our Father, who art in heaven hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. (Said before each decade)
• Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. (Said after each decade)
• O my Jesus, forgive us of our sins. Save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls into heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy. (Said after each decade)

RECITATION CONCERNING MARY

• Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you. (Luke 1:28)
Blessed art thou among women (Luke 1:41-42a, Luke 1:48),
Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus (Luke 1:42b)
Holy Mary, Mother of God (Luke 1:43)
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen (Luke 2:35, John 2:3-5 )
JOHN 2:3-5 ==== 3 When the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.” “Woman,why do you involve me?” Jesus replied.“My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”
The "Hail Mary" written above has the scriptural references after each line. Some Evangelicals feel that it is blasphemous to say that Mary is "Holy." Peter quoted Jesus, "you shall be holy because I am holy’" (1 Peter 1:14-16). We don't think Evangelicals would think that is blasphemous. Jesus said that human beings shall be Holy, because Jesus is Holy, and also Mary is Holy because Jesus is Holy. Her holiness is derived from him. Mary's obedience to God and closeness to Jesus made her holy. Our nearness to Jesus makes us Holy.
We are asking Mary to pray for us. She is praying the same way a pastor might pray for you or me. We think she is a kicking prayer warrior than our Catholic Priest or Pastor or even better than Evangelical pastors.

I HAVE BEEN PACKAGING ALOT OF EXPLANATION FOR YOU GUYS BUT EXPECTED NO MORE REPLIES FROM ME BECOS OUR DISCUSSION IS NO MORE HEALTHY DUE TO INSULTS YOU HAVE RAINED ON ME. MAY GOD BLESS US ALL, IN JESUS NAME AMEN.
emman, again that's just a copy and paste of your above post smiley

where are the Bible verses showing u r to pray to Mary
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 4:20am On Jul 21, 2017
emmanuelex1:
ALRIGHT I WANTED A HEALTHY DISCUSSION TO SHOW YOUR IGNORANCE BUT YOU RESULTED TO INSULTS. NEVERTHELESS I WILL SHOW FEW OF MY EXPLANATION AND WILL STOP AT THAT BECOS I DO NOT WANT TO BE TEMPTED TO INSULT YOU FOR CALLING ME DEVIL AND A LIAR. GOD BLESS YOU AS YOU READY THE BELOW.

CATHOLIC RECITATION SHOWING JESUS IS THE ONE WE ACTUALLY WORSHIP - HERE ARE THE MAIN PRAYERS OF THE ROSARY
• In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost
• I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day he rose again. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sin, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. (Said before the Rosary)
• Our Father, who art in heaven hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. (Said before each decade)
• Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. (Said after each decade)
• O my Jesus, forgive us of our sins. Save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls into heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy. (Said after each decade)

RECITATION CONCERNING MARY

• Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you. (Luke 1:28)
Blessed art thou among women (Luke 1:41-42a, Luke 1:48),
Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus (Luke 1:42b)
Holy Mary, Mother of God (Luke 1:43)
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen (Luke 2:35, John 2:3-5 )
JOHN 2:3-5 ==== 3 When the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.” “Woman,why do you involve me?” Jesus replied.“My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”
The "Hail Mary" written above has the scriptural references after each line. Some Evangelicals feel that it is blasphemous to say that Mary is "Holy." Peter quoted Jesus, "you shall be holy because I am holy’" (1 Peter 1:14-16). We don't think Evangelicals would think that is blasphemous. Jesus said that human beings shall be Holy, because Jesus is Holy, and also Mary is Holy because Jesus is Holy. Her holiness is derived from him. Mary's obedience to God and closeness to Jesus made her holy. Our nearness to Jesus makes us Holy.
We are asking Mary to pray for us. She is praying the same way a pastor might pray for you or me. We think she is a kicking prayer warrior than our Catholic Priest or Pastor or even better than Evangelical pastors.

I HAVE BEEN PACKAGING ALOT OF EXPLANATION FOR YOU GUYS BUT EXPECTED NO MORE REPLIES FROM ME BECOS OUR DISCUSSION IS NO MORE HEALTHY DUE TO INSULTS YOU HAVE RAINED ON ME. MAY GOD BLESS US ALL, IN JESUS NAME AMEN.
emman, that's just a copy and paste of your above post where u r running away from the issue, and talk off other things smiley

where are the Bible verses showing u r to pray to Mary
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 4:16am On Jul 21, 2017
emmanuelex1:
ALRIGHT I WANTED A HEALTHY DISCUSSION TO SHOW YOUR IGNORANCE BUT YOU RESULTED TO INSULTS. NEVERTHELESS I WILL SHOW FEW OF MY EXPLANATION AND WILL STOP AT THAT BECOS I DO NOT WANT TO BE TEMPTED TO INSULT YOU FOR CALLING ME DEVIL AND A LIAR. GOD BLESS YOU AS YOU READY THE BELOW.

CATHOLIC RECITATION SHOWING JESUS IS THE ONE WE ACTUALLY WORSHIP - HERE ARE THE MAIN PRAYERS OF THE ROSARY
• In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost
• I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day he rose again. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sin, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. (Said before the Rosary)
• Our Father, who art in heaven hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. (Said before each decade)
• Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. (Said after each decade)
• O my Jesus, forgive us of our sins. Save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls into heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy. (Said after each decade)

RECITATION CONCERNING MARY

• Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you. (Luke 1:28)
Blessed art thou among women (Luke 1:41-42a, Luke 1:48),
Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus (Luke 1:42b)
Holy Mary, Mother of God (Luke 1:43)
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen (Luke 2:35, John 2:3-5 )
JOHN 2:3-5 ==== 3 When the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.” “Woman,why do you involve me?” Jesus replied.“My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”
The "Hail Mary" written above has the scriptural references after each line. Some Evangelicals feel that it is blasphemous to say that Mary is "Holy." Peter quoted Jesus, "you shall be holy because I am holy’" (1 Peter 1:14-16). We don't think Evangelicals would think that is blasphemous. Jesus said that human beings shall be Holy, because Jesus is Holy, and also Mary is Holy because Jesus is Holy. Her holiness is derived from him. Mary's obedience to God and closeness to Jesus made her holy. Our nearness to Jesus makes us Holy.
We are asking Mary to pray for us. She is praying the same way a pastor might pray for you or me. We think she is a kicking prayer warrior than our Catholic Priest or Pastor or even better than Evangelical pastors.

I HAVE BEEN PACKAGING ALOT OF EXPLANATION FOR YOU GUYS BUT EXPECTED NO MORE REPLIES FROM ME BECOS OUR DISCUSSION IS NO MORE HEALTHY DUE TO INSULTS YOU HAVE RAINED ON ME. MAY GOD BLESS US ALL, IN JESUS NAME AMEN.
ha ha emman, in all of that only @bold, and @underline, is the only part given to the topic of "praying to Mary", and u give no verse showing that Mary is to be prayed to

Luke 2:35 has nothing to do with we should pray to Mary,
but your confusion is understandable

Luk 2:35  (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

John 2:3-5 also has nothing to do with we should pray to Mary

(Joh 2:3)  And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
(Joh 2:4)  Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
(Joh 2:5)  His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.



@underline, show from the Bible that we are to pray for Mary,
like u said u would
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:32am On Jul 21, 2017
emmanuelex1:
Since you are Christian I plead in the name of Jesus Christ copy and paste here again and see my reply. I am waiting you.
u emman r definately not in Jesus name
Jesus christ doesn't know u and all other liars:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it

In Jesus name means "in the authority of Jesus",
it means "according to God's wil"

liars do not have Christ's authority
lying accusers are not doing God's will.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:19am On Jul 21, 2017
emmanuelex1:
I can be blackmailed I have my explanation fully ready, if you claim you have posted the recitation please copy it and paste again please.
emmanuelex1:
I can be blackmailed I have my explanation fully ready, if you claim you have posted the recitation before please copy it and paste again please.
emmanuelex1:
I can be blackmailed I have my explanation fully ready, if you claim you have posted the recitation before please copy it and paste again please.
lying accusing emman

Just look at your unashameable repeating of your lies

I have posted and even given link to where I posted the hail Mary
I won't be foolish like u r and post the same thing over and over again
u know the hail Mary, if it's important to your case then post it,
or go back to my post where I posted it, and give your answer from there,
I'm not going to keep doing things for a habitual liar

Post your Bible verses that don't exist smiley showing Mary is to be prayed to, to pray for us
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:03am On Jul 21, 2017
emmanuelex1:
I did not notice it, but what stops you from copying and pasting here now again?
u did notice it mr. lie, I even posted a link to it because of all your lying denials, oh scaredy cat

u r scared to post Bible verses, that's surely off the devil,
but the reality is they don't exist and u would rather
just go on post after post, page after page lying and accusing than admit the Bible verses don't exist.

u heap big untruthful one emman
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 2:47am On Jul 21, 2017
emmanuelex1:
Point of correction I ask Mary to pray for me. You call me liar but you are the true liar here. I am yet to see a full recitation, my explanation is ready but I am just waiting for the recitation. Nevertheless while I wait for your team I also busy with other things I hope you no I am not jobless. You will eventually get my reply when I see the recitation I requested. If have typed the full reciation before kindly copy and paste and note I do not you commentary added. Just the recitation please
repeated lies again and again, if u emman have bible verses showing that Mary is to be prayed to,
u would post them and not be giving lying excuses all the time for not posting them.
The reason you don't post Bible verses showing that Mary is to be prayed to is because they don't exist
and u would rather go on lying and accusing like your god does, than admit they don't exist.
Christians are happy to post Bible verses showing them to be right, that say's a lot, doesn't it oh great lying accuser
who cannot post Bible verses showing u to be right cheesy

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 2:31am On Jul 21, 2017
emmanuelex1:
Y not type the full recitation and see my explanation instead of this you took time to type or better still copy and paste it if you have typed it before. I am yet to see the full recitation.
the same lies over and over again and all to evade the truth smiley

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74:
emmanuelex1:
Oh I never knew you agree with some part of the recitation, but even if you agree with some parts I still requested you type them in full while I give a full explanation. Please do not insult me again, I wonder what kind of Christian you are. If i was coward I won t still be requesting the full recitation, and moreover you can not beat me or arrest me even if I choose to be muslim
@bold, u r a coward, u say you will post Bible verses showing that Mary is to be prayed to over and over again,
and then over and over again you run away not posting them smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 2:24am On Jul 21, 2017
emmanuelex1:
If you can not type simple recitation only, then do not mention me again because I do not appreciate insults and do not force me to insult you. You type words that are even more than the words of the recitation yet you can even type me the recitation only. If you admit you do not no the recitation I will help you and also explain using Bible verses. Please do not insult me becos you think you no more.
ha ha, I posted the full hail Mary to you,
u blatantly lie in every post oh son of the devil.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 12:44am On Jul 21, 2017
u emman believe that mary should be prayed to
and prayed to for intercession to God

u emman said u would post Bible verses supporting your stance
and ever since emman u have been lying and running away from doing just that

u use many lies over and over again like good little sons of satan do
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 12:33am On Jul 21, 2017
emmanuelex1:
Please do not agree with anything yet, Moreover I observed you did not even reference the bible while agreeing to some you choose to agree with. I need the recitation only I do not want your commentary because I will do that my self referencing the Bible. Please type only the recitation. Thanks
@bold, duh oh blind one emman, there is no need for me to prove parts of the hail Mary that I agree with

but there is need for u to prove with Bible verses the part of the hail Mary to do with praying to mary,
and which u replied to me many many times that u will,
but then just as many many times, u, like a coward run away from it

it is impossible for you emman to say the truth,
u just post your lies, post after post, u r a natural liar, just like your father satan is:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.




@underline, u know the recitation has been posted mr lie: https://www.nairaland.com/1087122/why-catholics-pray-rosary-bow/56#58602366

and being a liar and a coward u will never reply with Bible verses to the long time issue:
"we are to pray to Mary to pray for us", all u can do is lie and then run.




look at all the lies from u emman in your many posts on these many pages,
is there a bigger liar than u emman in the whole Nairaland forum,
u emman keep speaking lies to run away from the truth,
satan the father of lies certinally is your father, worth showing again:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

fancy u choosing emmanuel as your user name,
Emmanuel means God with us
maybe u think u r God,
God is certinally far from u emman
if your parents gave u that name, they should see what a liar u turned into.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74:
emmanuelex1:
I poted it repeated just for to know that I only wanted you to type the full recitation first before I can answer. It is either you accept you are ignorant of a novice about the recitation you criticize. Please do not quote if you can do not even know what you criticize
@bold, ok, I posted the full recitation, and I even gave some commentary on it, so now u can post your Bible verses showing that we are to pray to Mary
@underline, ok, I know what it is that I criticize, so now point out with your Bible verses where I am ignorant of the recitation that I criticize,
and let us see who is ignorant of the recitation, you or me smiley



johnw74:
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of death. Amen.

I agree Mary is full of God's grace,
and that the lord is with her as He is with all believers,
I agree she is blessed among women, her cousin Elizabeth said so, and God chose her to be the Mother of the Christ,
and definately blessed is the fruit of her womb, Jesus Christ

but I don't agree with the bolded part that people are to pray to Mary asking her to pray for them,
that is from man, and is not Bibical.
Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Mat 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74:
emmanuelex1:
I poted it repeated just for to know that I only wanted you to type the full recitation first before I can answer. It is either you accept you are ignorant of a novice about the recitation you criticize. Please do not quote if you can do not even know what you criticize
smiley no where is there such a liar-false accuser as u emman
u certinally take after your god:

This below is Jesus speaking, who u don't believe:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

I posted the full recitation for u as u asked,
now where are the Bible verses showing that mary is to be prayed to,
which u said u would post, oh huge lie teller

u obviously don't believe the Bible or Jesus, who said this:

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death

u don't believe the Bible or Jesus and yet u claim to know the Truth, ha ha

Joh_14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74:
xaggar:
“Ye are my witnesses, saith Yahweh, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” Isa 43:10 KJV
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Messiah Yeshua;” 1Tim 2:5 KJV

Simple and clear! Stop adding your false imaginations. You are not up for an academy award for the best liar.
Isa 43:10  Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Yes exactly, there is only one true God, unlike false jw's two god's: mighty god Jesus, and almighty god Jehovah cheesy

And the next verse says: 

Isa 43:11  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

^^^ That's Yahovah

vvv and thats concerning Jesus

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. 

You see there, Yahovah is God, Jesus is God, there are many more verses like that, if you don't believe, ask and I will post them also.


For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Messiah Yeshua;” 1Tim 2:5 KJV

Yes the man Messiah Jesus is mediator between God and man,
before becoming man, Jesus is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

If you don't believe that Bible verse oh false jw, academy award winner for the sect saying the most lies,
then ask me to post more Bible verses showing that Jesus is God.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 7:06am On Jul 19, 2017
emmanuelex1:
YOU are just a SCAM, I only requested you to type me full recitation so I can explain using Bible verses, how can you criticize with half Unclad knowledge? please I need the full recitation then I promise will quote the bible verses for you to understand. Is the recitation difficult for you to type? Please do not quote me if you do not type the full recitation.
wow, you have virtually posted the same thing three times in a row, the devil is greatly confusing u more and more

yes I have done what u requested, now post the Bible verses showing that Mary is to be prayed to,
which u have been saying u will do many times,
but as many times u have lied, not posting them:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 6:56am On Jul 19, 2017
emmanuelex1:
YOU are just a SCAM, how can you criticize with quarter Unclad knowledge? please I need the full recitation then I promise I will quote the bible verses for you to understand. Please do not quote me if you do not type the full recitation.
smiley u keep repeating yourself, that comes from your confusion, which comes from your unbelief

I answered u already and am waiting on the bible verses that u said u r going to post showing Mary is to be prayed to.

Now don't be a liar yet again and again, post them.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74:
emmanuelex1:
YOU are just a SCAM, how can you criticize with half naked knowledge? please I need the full recitation then I promise will quote the bible verses for you to understand. Please do not quote me if you do not type the full recitation.
ha ha, ever the false accuser, u take after your god:

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.


I quoted the part of the "hail Mary" that we are talking about(praying to Mary):

"pray for us sinners, now, and at the hour of death amen"



I don't know why u want all the hail mary quoted, but sure, here it is:

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of death. Amen.

I agree Mary is full of God's grace,
and that the lord is with her as He is with all believers,
I agree she is blessed among women, her cousin Elizabeth said so, and God chose her to be the Mother of the Christ,
and definately blessed is the fruit of her womb, Jesus Christ

but I don't agree with the bolded part that people are to pray to Mary asking her to pray for them,
that is from man, and is not Bibical.

Now post the Bible verses showing we are to pray to Mary, or are u just continueing in your never ending lies?
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 6:20am On Jul 19, 2017
Do they have: Mat 28:19 in their corrupted book

Mat 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

In other words, Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of God.

Showing that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost is God.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74:
Peacefullove:
Nice one at bold , You are also God according to the bible but yet your God is superior to you . Same apply to Jesus .
ha ha, Your brain has definately left the building

u jfl think all people are God


I am not God according to the Bible, you just keep on lying concerning God's word, which is typical of phony jw

u r referring to: Psa 82:6  I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.


it's amazing how such simple things need to be explained to phony jw, and even then u don't understand or believe

The Hebrew word for God in that verse that the English word comes from is "elohim", which is used usually for the one true God, but in this instance it clearly is not, clearly to Christians that is.

elohim means: God, magistrate, judges, people having authority etc.

elohim means God when referring to God

elohim means having authority when referring to people,
people have authority in the world, over animals etc.

If u want to insist we r god's, I have no problem with that,
it just means we have authority, but we are not God.

Truly pfl the verse is not saying people are God cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74:
Peacefullove:
whenever you are replying me, let your Bra.in work Sir

m talking about been called " MY GOD " . MY God please.




Is Your God superior to you ? answer this .
false jw plf

duh, u r talking bout "My God", that's what I said

duh, is My God superior to me, He certinally is, that's what I said

talk about letting your Bra.in work, yours is dead it seems
Your confusion comes from rejecting the Truth, and from the devil of course.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 2:00am On Jul 19, 2017
emmanuelex1:
Let me show your ignorance now, I will quote some Bible verses referencing Mary for you to understand a little about Catholicism but first prove to me you are not ignorant by typing the words of the most popular recitation about Mary Catholics mostly say. If you do this I will quote verses for you to now understand since it is obvious you do not want to see a Priest. Please reply this quote with the recitation and I will appreciate a fast response like you recently did. If you do not know the recitations Catholics say then tell how you will appreciate or understand the Bible verse I will quote? What you do not know is that most of the recitations towards Mary is in the bible. Well you need to see a Catholics priest and carry your Bible along while going to see him. Religion is not online gragra.
The hail mary prayer ends with: "pray for us sinners, now, and at the hour of death amen"

of course it is not Bibical to ask mary to pray for us, but it is heretical,
no where in the Bible is found that we should pray to Mary,

u, untruthful emman, keep saying u will post Bible verses showing that the above hail mary quote is true,
but u r just lying again and again, aren't u emman
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 1:38am On Jul 19, 2017
emmanuelex1:
Let me show your ignorance now, I will quote some Bible verses referencing Mary for you to understand a little about Catholicism but first prove to me you are not ignorant by typing the words of the most popular recitation about Mary Catholics mostly say. If you do this I will quote verses for you to now understand since it is obvious you do not want to see a Priest. Please reply this quote with the recitation and I will appreciate a fast response like you recently did. If you do not know the recitations Catholics say then tell how you will appreciate or understand the Bible verse I will quote? What you do not know is that most of the recitations towards Mary is in the bible. Well you need to see a Catholics priest and carry your Bible along while going to see him. Religion is not online gragra.
ha ha, to avoid the truth, u ignorant emman just post the same garbage over and over again.


Mat 6:9  After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Mat 6:6  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.


Jesus said, this is how you should pray: "Our Father"

Jesus said, this is who you pray to: "pray to thy Father"

Believers pray to God alone, some others pray to people(humans) who have died.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 1:08am On Jul 19, 2017
Peacefullove:
Silly copy and paste , Yeshua is not inferior to Joseph and Mary because they are not his God . he never call them My God , did he ? you can show me where .


Did he call his father My God ? Sometimes you need to use your BRA.in.

one question for you ; IS YOUR GOD SUPERIOR TO YOU ?
duh, u missed Hairy's point, Christ was not inferior to Joseph and Mary because all three are human

I leave out the fact that Christ is also God, u confused enough.

Because Christ called his Father "My God" how does that make Him inferior to Him
Father also called Christ "O God", Father and Son are both God: John 1:1 and many more
if u ask me to post them.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 1:00am On Jul 19, 2017
Peacefullove:
Is your God Superior to you ?
uh duh, yes He certinally is


And just like Christ’s subjection to Mary and Joseph did not make Him inferior to them because all three were human, so Christ’s subjection to the Father does not make Him inferior to the Father, both being God

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

of course u don't believe the Bible and change it, but bad for u, u will have your reward.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74:
Peacefullove:
Jesus is not God anymore ? #burst into laughter . pls answer



and didnt you read the part that said what you called the fleshly part is the manifestation of God , so are you now ready to agree that Mary is the mother of God ?
@bold, Never have I said Jesus is not God, but u pfl are so confused, which comes from lying, that u talk babble

@red, a fool bursts into laughter at her own confusion

@underline duh confusion reigns in pfl, God was manifest in the flesh is not saying that God is flesh,
truly pfl God is not flesh but a spirit: John 4:24


God was manifest in a burning bush, Q.was God that burning bush? A.no, God is a Spirit
the Holy Spirit was manifest in a dove, Q.was the Holy Spirit that dove? A.no, the Holy Spirit is a Spirit
God was manifest is man-flesh, Q. was God that man-flesh? A. no, God is a Spirit
that man-flesh is the Son of God, His Spirit is God (remember the Word is God, and God is a Spirit)

God and the Word(plural) is God(singular): John 1:1,
God is a Spirit
God and the Word is that same one Spirit, who is God

two persons in that example are God

billions of people are human, though u pfl cannot see, understand, or believe,
bad 4 u



But false jw, u continue believing that God is flesh, add it to your numerous false doctrines.

Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 12:16am On Jul 19, 2017
Peacefullove:
Jesus is not God anymore ? #burst into laughter . pls answer



and didnt you read the part that said what you called the fleshly part is the manifestation of God , so are you now ready to agree that Mary is the mother of God ?
You peacefullove once again lie by changeing what I said, and in doing that you are just taking after your father the devil, and doing what comes naturally to you:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


u peacefullove quoted:

Mary is the mother of the fleshly part
johnw74:
duh, no God is not flesh, and truly Jesus flesh was human smiley

no Mary is not the Mother of God, God existed long before Mary
Mary is the mother of the man(flesh) Jesus, not off His Spirit.


ha ha talk about confused, but that's understandable, u r deceiving false jw,
striking out words, changing what is said etc. etc.

2Ti_3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

and truly, aren't you so so deceived by satan through your elders
u peacefullove had just done a similar thing, striking out part of what I said to change the meaning,
but that's all u have, lies and deceiving, after all you are false jw

2Ti_3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74:
emmanuelex1:
Let me show your ignorance now, I will quote some Bible verses referencing Mary for you to understand a little about Catholicism but first prove to me you are not ignorant by typing the words of the most popular recitation about Mary Catholics mostly say. If you do this I will quote verses for you to now understand since it is obvious you do not want to see a Priest. Please reply this quote with the recitation and I will appreciate a fast response like you recently did.
smiley u such a lying accuser emman, oh ignorant one

emman, i responded quickly, but u ran away again cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 5:15am On Jul 18, 2017
emmanuelex1:
Let me show your ignorance now, I will quote some Bible verses referencing Mary for you to understand a little about Catholicism but first prove to me you are not ignorant by typing the words of the most popular recitation about Mary Catholics mostly say. If you do this I will quote verses for you to now understand since it is obvious you do not want to see a Priest. Please reply this quote with the recitation and I will appreciate a fast response like you recently did.
yet once again another lie from u emman, u cannot stop
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 4:33am On Jul 18, 2017
because you know so little emman, you keep repeatedly lying and accusing others of being ignorant cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 4:27am On Jul 18, 2017
emmanuelex1:
You have a big problem Did you read what I said? for the sake of clarity the essence of me asking to type the most popular recitation about Mary Catholics do say is because I want to reference some verses in the Bible for you to appreciate it. Your case is a case o.
ha ha emman, look at all this bull-lies u talk so that u can get out of posting Bible verses showing that mary is to be prayed to

stop looking for excuses to not post Bible verses about mary being prayed to, and just stop lying and false accusing and have some courage and say, they don't exist. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 4:22am On Jul 18, 2017
emmanuelex1:
Now you can no more quote the Bible to referencing define the truth you have being talking about, it is now obvious from your response that you are ignorant of the truth. Well let me show your ignorance now, I will quote some Bible verses referencing Mary for you to understand a little about Catholicism but first prove to me you are not ignorant by typing the words of the most popular recitation about Mary Catholics mostly say. If you do this I will quote verses for you to now understand since it is obvious you do not want to see a Priest. Please reply this quote with the recitation and I will appreciate a fast response like you recently did.
Of course i can post verses from the Bible to do with "truth"

do u want me 2 post some now 2 show that u cannot help but lie and accuse over and over again?

As 4 the rest u r just repeating yourself which u do all the time because u have no answers.

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