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^^^ well that's just a lot of accusing and confusion, but most importantly a lot of changing Bible verses to say something else dolphinheart tried to give diffrent meanings to every verse that shows "Jesus is God" many words are needed to try and refute Bible verses, and he sure uses many words and his explanations for anyone who read it are truly pathetic false jw dolphinheart doesn't believe the Bible verses that say "Jesus is God" and he rejects them and tries to explain them away This is why false jw are antichrists, they deny the true Christ they try to have you believe He is "a god" "an angel" dolphinheart refers to, God and the Word being God, as a "two headed God" false jw disbelieve very many scriptures on the many doctrines, and change what they say they say when Thomas called Jesus "my God" that he meant something else they say when Father said to Jesus, "thy throne O God", that he wasn't calling Him God they believe the verse that say's "God is one" but thay don't believe the verses that say "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" they don't believe, emmanuel meaning God with us, means Jesus is God they don't believe the scripture that says "God purchased us with His own blood" as has been said for decades, false jw change the scriptures to suit their satanic doctrines of course to their own peril these are just a few Bible verses that false jw disbelieve on "Jesus is God": johnw74: |
cynosure489:oh boy, dumb gets dumber It's true, the queen of heaven is not actually the queen of heaven that's just what this false goddess is called catholics do give Mary the title of a false goddess don't go handling any guns will you johnw74: |
cynosure489:duh, no, she is not actually queen of heaven, she is a false goddess with a false title ![]() |
^^^ dolphinheart, do you see yet that these Bible verses show that Jesus Christ is God, or do you reject them along with others Bible verses that have been posted showing that Jesus Christ is God? |
^^^ all of that confusion, and copy cat accusing, falsely saying things to me that I honestly said to you and adressing many things that have nothing to do with Jesus being God althought with your lack of understanding I know you think they do You know that I don't have discussions with non believers but if time permits in a day or two I will show how ridiculous your long post is In the mean time here are more scriptres showing that Jesus is God which you can disbelieve and twist around: Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Thomas called Jesus "God", false jw would say "my Lord and my angel" After The Father through John, showed that Jesus Christ is not an angel in earlier verses, He then showed that like Him, Jesus Christ is God: Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Baptising in the name of God: Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Three persons, one God: 1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. Mar_12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: the Greek for Lord is "Kurios" meaning God. or, Hear O Israel; God our God is one God Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. God is one The Father and the Word is God God purchased the church with His own blood: Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. false jw dolphinheart would say: to feed the church of a god, which he hath purchased with his own blood. to feed the church of an angel, which he hath purchased with his own blood. |
joyandfaith:Saying that op will eventually become atheist is just another way of saying, duh I don't know anything, so I will just lie and accuse like the good little false j witness that i am Pro_19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish. |
joyandfaith:The posts about Jesus being God are given with Bible verses which Bible verses do you reject calling them rubbish? |
cynosure489:There is no queen of heaven mentioned in those verses and many will tell you that the woman in revelation 12 isn't Mary but Israel, who also gave birth to the man child the time is the end times, read the chapter and refrences the chapter is talking of a time that is still future the crown of twelve stars represent Israel, the twelve tribes, the same as the twelve gates of the New Jerusalem represent Israel Rev_21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: also the twelve angels are twelve stars read early chapters of revelation and see where stars represent angels |
I'm not answering this post for the unbeliveing false j witness but for the benefit of any who wan't to know. johnw74: God was manifest in the flesh: dolphinheart:Jesus Christ being God in the flesh is not false doctrine as christians know however we also see that Jesus Christ being "a angel" "a god" certinally is a false doctrine the KJV and Interlinear Bibles are not corrupt as false j witness say In the Strongs Greek, the word is "theos" God In the Interlinear it is "Hos" which is also God You like to use the word "he" that word "he" is referring to God, which you cannot see dolphinheart:Most know that the Father is God but not many know Jesus Christ is God 1Jn 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1Jn 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Him in verse 1 is referring to the Father-God the him's and he's in verses 2-5 are also referring to God, because no one else is mentioned but God The Father and the Word is "God" Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. "he" that was manifested in the flesh is God God is one The Father and the Word is God dolphinheart:Noo ooooo ooooo! He is the Son, duh dolphinheart:The Son being an heir to all that is the Fathers doesn't make Him not God me being an heir to all that is my fathers does not make me not human like he is, duh again dolphinheart:see already how the confusion clearly still lies with you. The great mystery of godliness is that "God" was manifested in the flesh to be Saviour of the World false j witness say that "an angel" "a god" was manifested to be Saviour of the World Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. God with us, not angel or a god with us Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. How can Jesus Christ name be called "The everlasting Father" A. because The Father and the Son are one: Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. God is one The Father and the Word is God "a god" or "an angel" is not, and cannot, be called "The everlasting Father" only God can be called that. Two persons in those verses, one God. I won't bring the Holy spirit into it the thread is about Jesus being God. |
urahara:cool, go to your place |
johnydon22:With the thread not being about the Holy Spirit, it cannot be about trinity the thread is about Jesus being God (two persons in God as per John 1:1 ) didn't think that would be hard to understand. |
BAZETU12:duh, Jesus is also man, God is Spirit the thread is not about Jesus being a man, even you know that it's about Jesus Christ also being "God" which you don't believe, ok |
johnydon22:This thread is not about the trinity doctrine, but about Jesus Christ being "God" opposed to "a god' read the thread title. |
Rilwayne001:The truth would be silly to a trolling muslim |
cynosure489:You like to call Mary after a false goddess ok, continue |
God was manifest in the flesh: 1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1Jn 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. we are the son's of God when He-God appears we will be like Him He-God was manifested to take away our sins |
cynosure489:Yes, because it is written in the Bible Mary was not called the queen of heaven in the Bible cynosure489:of a false goddess |
tolugar:@red, I myself don't think it's a good move to give Jesus Christ's Mother, Mary the title of a false goddess. tolugar: |
oluminnic:You explained that fairly well, but they must have chosen to ignore it. God created man and woman, the woman came from the man and they are one flesh, the man is head of the woman in the same way God bought forth Wisdom-the Word, the Word came from God, they are one Spirit, Father is God of the Word. It's normal that the Son worships His Father, some think that it means they are not one Spirit, then they must also believe that woman taken from man are not one flesh, it must also mean they don't believe what is written in the Bible. |
Wonderful Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. And there are four other names of God there. |
tolugar:The queen of heaven is a false goddess that is worshiped, provoking God to anger. In Jeremiah 7:18: The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes of bread for the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to provoke me to anger. Question: "Who is the Queen of Heaven?" Answer: The phrase “the queen of heaven” appears in the Bible twice, both times in the book of Jeremiah. The first incident is in connection with the things the Israelites were doing that provoked the Lord to anger. Entire families were involved in idolatry. The children gathered wood, and the men used it to build altars to worship false gods. The women were engaged in kneading dough and baking cakes of bread for the “Queen of Heaven” (Jeremiah 7:18). This title referred to Ishtar, an Assyrian and Babylonian goddess also called Ashtoreth and Astarte by various other groups. She was thought to be the wife of the false god Baal, also known as Molech. The motivation of women to worship Ashtoreth stemmed from her reputation as a fertility goddess, and, as the bearing of children was greatly desired among women of that era, worship of this “queen of heaven” was rampant among pagan civilizations. Sadly, it became popular among the Israelites as well. http://www.gotquestions.org/Queen-of-Heaven.html |
dolphinheart:false j witness have finally got bolded part right, after decades of saying that the angel in that verse is Jesus false j witnesses have argued to me with their usual bad manner that the angel in that verse is Jesus They wouldn't admit they were wrong, that takes courage, at least they are not lying on that one point any longer Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. false j witnesse's used the same dumb spirit then as they still do now in these verses saying that Jesus is an angel when the verses clearly show He isn't. Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. and some false j witnesses say Michael is not an angel, just chief of the angels they change and twist the written word of God all over the place to try and suit their satanic doctrines Michael certinally is an angel, he is an archangel which means "a chief angel" G743 ἀρχάγγελος archaggelos ar-khang'-el-os From G757 and G32; a chief angel: - archangel. Total KJV occurrences: 2 you see there from strongs greek dictionary, that archangel is "a chief angel" Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. And also you have some false j witness saying Michael the angel is Jesus and you have some false j witness saying Michael not an angel is Jesus Of course Michael the archangel is not Jesus the Christ false j witness lies all over the place, with much confusion |
brocab: dolphinheart:false jw's all over the place are paranoid paranoia is from satan all fear is from satan satan is their father you would have noticed that false jw also lie all over the place satan is the father of lies Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. false j witnesses lie often, with other witnesses supporting them in their lies Pro 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish |
joyandfaith:Pro 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish. |
themall:Jesus Christ talking: Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Jesus Christ speaking: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. ^^^ see how you are just like your father Pro 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish. |
themall:fake jw themall lies in nearly every post with Jehovah as his witness, and thinks Jehovah doesn't see it lying constantly with no regard at all for Jehovah, what is his end: Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
joyandfaith:supposed jw keeps lying, saying God's Church loves to kill people and other fake jw support you giving likes to your lies you will answer for blaspheming God's Church |
fake jw themall says I'm a nigerian pastor but cannot say what pastor I am or what church it is that I pastor fake jw themall says he debunked 9 things in my post but he cannot show them fake jw themall lies befor God all the time, and has no conscience about it fake jw themall lies in nearly every post, with Jehovah as his witness, and thinks Jehovah doesn't see it lying constantly with no regard at all for Jehovah, what is his end: Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
themall: themall:phony paranoid jw themall cannot answer any of his lies, not a single one and is reduced to this babel |
themall:show me all the 9 parts of my post that you debunked and I will show you how you love to lie time and time again |
Jehovah's Witnesses and Mental Health mental health by Matt Slick Please understand that this article is not mean as a put-down of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I am simply displaying research information which raises serious questions about the Watchtower Organization. It has always been a belief of mine that cult groups put an excessive burden of legalism upon their adherents--this is because they do not have a proper understanding of grace due to their lack of understanding of who God is and what He has done for us. Often these aberrant groups require substantial commitments of time and energy from their membership in order to maintain a good standing in the group. Since cults are typically short on grace and long on law (mixed with group obligations, guilt-inducing teachings, and isolationism), I have always assumed that this unnecessary difficulty would lead to emotional and mental problems. A few years ago, I heard of an article in a mental health journal that documented the population percentages of Jehovah's Witnesses in mental wards. It took some effort, but I found it. Following are excerpts from that article. Judge for yourself if the Jehovah's Witness organization contributed to the demise of some of its members. (The following quotes are taken from the British Journal of Psychiatry: the Journal of Mental Science. Published by authority of The Royal College of Psychiatrists, Vol. 126, Ashford, Kent, Headley Brothers LTD, 1975. The author is John Spencer). "During the period of 36 months from January 1971 to December 1973 there were 7,546 inpatient admissions to the West Australian Mental Health Service Psychiatric Hospitals. Of these 50 were reported to be active members of the Jehovah's Witnesses movement" (p. 557). "Of the 50 admitted 22 were diagnosed as schizophrenic, 17 as paranoid schizophrenic, 10 as neurotic and one as alcoholic" (p. 557-58). Total admissions Annual rate per 1,000 population Jehovah's Witnesses admissions Annual rate per 1,000 population All diagnoses 7,546 2.54 50 4.17 Schizophrenia (295) 1,826 .61 22 1.83 Paranoid schizophrenia (195.3) 1,154 .38 17 1.4 Neurosis (300) 1,182 .39 10 .76 "From the figures gathered in the Table it is clear that members of the Jehovah's Witnesses movement are over-represented in admissions to the Mental Health Services of this State. Furthermore, it is clear from the Table that the incidence of schizophrenia amongst them is about three times as high as for the rest of the general population, while the figure for paranoid schizophrenia is nearly four times that of the general population" (p. 558). "The study does not shed light on the question of symptom or defense mechanism, but suggests that either the Jehovah's Witnesses sect tends to attract an excess of pre-psychotic individuals who may then break down, or else being a Jehovah's Witness is itself a stress which may precipitate a psychosis" (p. 558). https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-mental-health |
themall: themall:phony paranoid jw themall cannot answer any of his lies, not a single one and is reduced to this babel |
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