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malvisguy212:
Like it or not, HELL EXIST and its is the home of the rebellions, the wicked and sinful men.

johnydon22:
Mary let out a frustrated sigh as she stepped into her room, her feet aches from the shoes that was barely her size, her heads were throbbing and dry sweats stuck on her fading make-up.
"How could he say that to me?"
"Does he really love me then why does he have to threaten me?"
She cursed under her breathe dumping her weight on the bed and her thoughts wandered to the event that just transpired between her and Josh, she could still recall vividly.
Mary has been dating Josh for as long as she could remember or at least she thought so, he was a handsome tall young man with a charming smile, intelligent and smart and was sweet.
They had been childhood sweethearts all through primary and secondary school and now in the University their relationship flourished and bloomed.
Until she started noticing gradual change in Josh, he got angry easily these days and sometimes would attempt slapping her out of anger, Josh who usually opened the door for her now went ahead without looking back, he even blamed her when one of his friends slapped her.
In short their relationship can simply be defined now as 'a one sided romance' she knew she had to end it for her own good but how will she go about it.
She had managed to summon enough courage today, called Josh and informed him of her visit.
Josh's face grew blank and red as Mary rented her grievances and told him she wanted a break from the relationship.
She could notice his face twitch and his eyes dimmed and lost it's sparkle. it was hard to place what he really was feeling but she dreaded every second of that moment.
Then Josh spoke, his voice was calm and mild at the same time oozed with every ounce of seriousness.
"Mary i love you so much, i am madly in love with you mary don't leave me because i love you and don't want you to go"
He said holding her shoulders
"I know Josh but i just need...."
"You just need what Mary?" He cut her short "Let me tell you something Mary, if you leave me i will take away everything you hold dear and will surely kill you myself.
If you stay with me i'll save you and you will be safe because i assure you no harm will come to you from me but if you go on with this your act of rebellion i will make your existence a horrible one, don't you see i love you mary?"
He sighs
"It's either you stay with me and love me like i love you or it will turn out ugly" his eyes were cold and she could feel his heart beat freeze.
A chilly cold ran down her spine, she wants to opt out of this relationship but apparently if she did, her life is on the line.
she certainly have no choice here. "How could Josh be this cold, abusive and a cheap blackmailer to get love?" she asked.
* * * *
Everyone who reads the above story can agree Mary is being abused here by a very dangerous boy friend who is blackmailing her into loving him or she gets murdered.
As bad as this is, this is done globally in a large scale and nobody is seeing anything wrong in that profession of blackmail, act of abuse and show of tyranny.
More than 4 billion people are under the umbrella of such situation in the name of one religious belief or the other.
Almost all the popular world religions boast of a setting where there is a God who loves humanity so much, needs man to conform to his will and love him back, worship him, revere him and be in a one sided relationship with him or He burns them in hell for eternity for choosing to become his enemy by not loving back or conforming obediently to his will.
Is there any difference between Mary's situation and that these religion has dipped their followers in?
I say "No"
Both are abusive, tyrannic, barbaric, sadistic and a petty show of cheap blackmail..
If the basis of your religion is roped around a God who is offering you salvation from his own torture schemes, Is it really really salvation or blackmail?
Is the issue of threat in order to instill conformity to a reciprocation of love really anything near love or just an emotional rape?
Why are the concept of God peddled by these religions subject to such petty tyranny, sadism, abuse and prone to cheap blackmail?
Free choice is not roped with options, when a choice roped within options it is no longer an exercise of free choice but a limited right on what to choose.
If the person offering you salvation is the same person threatening you then it is not salvation, it is an emotional genocide and abuse of an individual's choices..
We have heard reasons from the victims of these religions and their excuses for succumbing to such barbarism in the name of a religious doctrine always rings.
"It is better to believe and be on the safe side than disbelief and risk that torture"
This affirms that the basis of religion isn't really certainty in the actuality of their distinct deities, not Faith as an exercise of this uncertainty but rather fear of the abstract concepts of a torture chamber or the unknown and greed for a blissful paradise.
That fear drives the faith and ensures the stoic clutch to uncertainty.
I have always wondered how such God concepts also claim perfection and omni-everything but still acts with so much childishness and insecurity that even humans cannot stoop that low.
How can there be a perfect God who resorts to cheap blackmail to ensure conformity and still claims a profession of love, that is an insult to the human idea of what Love is or should be.
Now the most unjust part of this setting is that, the victims are always blamed for the actions of the perpetrator.
You get excuses like "God doesn't send you to hell your rebellion does" that is what i call an unparalleled show of unstable wits and pitiful Stockholm syndrome.
Just like the above story, if mary goes ahead and break up with Josh, Josh kills her and then says he wasn't the one that killed mary but rather mary killed herself by deciding to quite their relationship even when he told her that would cost her life.
It is inherently absurd but such abhorrence found in many religious doctrines are rather seen as a moral position, that is one demeaning and dangerous thing about these beliefs.
It ensures the glorification of such absurdity and respect of such unparalleled abhorrence
With just a little knowledge of what Love no human would ever regard such sinister blackmail to be love, Love is not violence and hate, obedience conformity or forceful, threat or ruin and neither is it bloody.
With all said and all known, it is not wrong to admit there are billions of victims of this punny blackmail and abuse but it is always OK when the abuser is claimed to be an alleged universal judiciary.
This is what to mull over, if there is this threat of torture and wrathful violence roped around the concept of God your religion reveres and this also comes with an offer of salvation and love from the wrath and torture schemes of the same God.
Ask yourself
Is this really salvation or abusive blackmail..

malvisguy212:
open a thread with the title "hell". You will read insultive comment from atheist. What does it imply ? Telling someone not to smoke or he will die young, is its a threat or warning ?

DrLazDevitan:
''God gave rise to life,solely he has all right to take life''

Do you know how this world of ours will turn to if we were to work aright with this thought?

malvisguy212:
bro, you have time to reply the op. The word "HELL" is given the atheist a sleepless night.

ayoku777:
Matthew 25v41 -Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS:

Can you see? Hell was never made for man; hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. But those who follow him will end up where he is headed.

If you tell your friend or loved one, don't road-trip with that guy, he is going to drive his car down a cliff, if you follow him that will be your fate; are you threatening your friend or telling him the truth? Is that threat or truth?

The devil is the first sinner, he is the first person to use his freewill to turn his back on God and rebel against Him. To turn your back on God is to road-trip with the devil.

If God tells you that if you turn your back on His love and His salvation, then you're road-tripping with the devil and will end up where he is headed -which is hell. How is that emotional blackmail? It is only truth!

Hell was not made for man, it was made for Lucifer and his angels. But those who follow him will end up where he is headed. And making that clear to people is not emotional blackmail or threat, but truth.

Telling people where the bus they're boarding is headed is not blackmail and telling people the destination of the person they're road-tripping with is not threat. It is truth in love. I would want to know.

Shalom

timonski:
@op. It seems you lack the holy spirit. Earnestly pray for wisdom. You are almost 30 for christ's sake!

IAmTobore:
You don't have to insult me or my belief before you make your point.

The Angels never went there to destroy the city. Though that was their primary mission. But they had a change of objective when they met Abraham. And the new objective was "savage the righteous and destroy the wicked". If you look at the story, you will understand that the angels had only made contacts with LOT when things got out of hand. They never savaged anymore persons after LOT. LOT was also lucky to have found the angels, if not he would have gone down too. There might have been righteous people too amoung those that were destroyed with the city. But they couldn't be saved.

The city was destroyed with "lava rain" (a rain of molten magma). I don't see how anyone could have been omitted from the destruction.

Now let me ask you; are you saying GOD should have pardoned the city because of the kids?

gatiano:
Clap for yourself, You are quite observant. You are the first person ever to ask what Gatiano means. A lot of people carry their names, nicknames around not fully understanding what they mean and how it affects their personality, particularly the names of people they interact with.... Anyway, I will tell that another time.

When I said "It is not there and not here, but where? nowhere. Yes but No and perhaps maybe. Theories and speculation." I meant modern scientific findings or researches are done with such hastiness and hurry, that at the end of the day, the findings confuses the researchers, let alone the readers. Scientific findings now in the modern times are done with gaining glory, honour and most of all payday(money), and attaching names and patents ; The next thing is that race and contest would begin, russia battling with the united states the first to reach the moon, the space etc. Einstein as his laws and theories, the chinese have theirs too, so are the indians and russians. scientific researches then becomes a battle to show supremacy. Laws and theories keep changing all the time. Prove- with the level of medicine and pharmaceutical prowess that is claimed, there are still more diseases and defects out there- what is the reason for the many pharmaceutical and medical research companies? Gain profit. Trillion of wealth in the world, more people are lodged into poverty. The modern scientist

Let us compare that to the Ancient Scientific researches. Do you see any names attached to all of the great monuments still standing today? No! That was because they were not built for names or glory or for profits, They were built and made for the good and development of the people and nations as ONE. Thus, They took their time and were extremely patient into studying every details. Some researches can take 1000 or more years. Researches are passed from father to son and to the next generation (Tell me, how can there be unemployment in this case if you are born with jobs waiting for You and I)? Don't get me wrong, There is competition within the ancients too, but not with scientific researches or findings.
The ancients took time to study the precession of the equinoxes, which took almost 26,000 years, how many generations is that? Guess what, the modern scientist wants to claim credit for that and stylishly insert their names and patents. The ancient will never say "They discovered", They will say "They Rediscovered" for which they would have big celebration across the nations. Your ancestral clan's name is among the builders of the pyramids, so is Mine.

Science is simply Seeing, Looking at something is different from seeing something. When we look at something, we can't see details, When we see, all details are clear. imagining is also seeing(imaging). There is a word "foresight" , is there a word called "forelook"? If everybody had microscopes and telescopes, so called scientists would be jobless.
When we put what we see into data, and measurements and with proper timing and patience, through correct simple calculations we will reach the truth not a theory. Ancients don't have theories, they have truth and exact. "Many have eyes to look but do not see", means no observation (science).

As Lungs is for breathing air, So is the brain for expanding mind. The same thought that expand the mind using the brain as mechnism is the same thought that is expanding the universe. Similarity between the brain nerve cells, and the universe. There are several trillion nerve cells in the brain. Thought travels at 24 billion miles per second (Elder says), I can't yet prove it.

sonOfLucifer:
True Story.

Christians and Muslims will get the government to sponsor their 'pig'mirage to foreign countries, because Jerusalem and Mecca are Holy lands, not Osogbo or Owerri.

Holidays for Christmas, Ramadan, Eid-els and Easters.

Chistians and Muslims will fight and kill each other. Atheist and Animists , on the other hand, are going to hell.

Christians and Muslims can block federal roads in the name of their Gods.

But try to stop prayers at a public function in a 'secular country', they play victim. I tire for una. Na una preach heaven pass, na una like Earth pass.

ValentineMary:
I doubt if there is a universe made up of anti matter because according to an experiment carried out in university of Liverpool, where they mimiced the original state of the universe, it was discovered that more amount of matter than anti matter was made. Thus all the anti matter were anhiliated leaving a fraction of matter enough to make a galaxy.

CoolUsername:
I haven't seen God but I've seen spaghetti.

Teempakguy:
in english.

"If conputers were dragons, I would be a dragon lord. If they were pythons, I would be harry potter. I wine and dine with code, I speak with solid state intelligence. I am programmer."

beginner in C++, boss in QBASIC, Enthusiast in FORTRAN, beginner in Python, More than Enthusiast, but not professional in Arduino C)

KingEbukasBlog:
Experience is a path to knowledge . Empiricism could deter the comprehension of what cannot be observed by sensory perception or experimented on to ascertain validity .

KingEbukasBlog:
Science is the study of nature - the material/physical universe . So anything that is immaterial it observes it as non existent .

KingEbukasBlog:
So how do you then obviate the limitations of science ? .

KingEbukasBlog:
Science has its apparent limitations . Philosophy is not scared to go beyond .

Ayomikun37:
Good evening sir. Pardon me for replying this late... My aunt was having her newborn's naming ceremony today, so I've been kinda occupied all day... My repiy to your post is gonna be kinda long, but since my phone here only allows 1000 characters per post, it may take quite a few posts for me to complete it, and I'll like you to reserve your comments until after I'm done, please...

KingEbukasBlog:
Philosophy is the way young man

Naijaboy007:
mods pls do the needful, we need more opinions on this

Annunaki:
The summerians did not have the most basic astronomical instrument which is the telescope. Has it occurred to you how they could possibly have amassed that much knowledge without external help? Human knowledge as we have it today was developed and built on over time, it didn't just happen. How come ancient people had knowledge we are just discovering today some of which we are yet to comprehend.

Annunaki:
I am not of the opinion that it's legit though I think it's very plausible and there is a lot of evidence from our ancient past that points in that direction. I know you are 'atheist' and you have your reservations about gods or God but I don't rule out extraterrestrials being messengers(angels) sent by God to intervene in human affairs and some of these messengers were mistaken for God/gods by the ancients.

Annunaki:
It doesn't make sense that ancient people who are far less developed than us are able to construct ancient monuments far beyond our level of comprehension despite all our advanced technology and the knowledge they used to do this is lost even though these amazing feats are repeated in various unconnected civilizations all over the world. Surely they must had help from an external source who holds the key to this technology.