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Hahahahahahahaha this gonna be fun **Shakes head for OP..... Grabs bread and pop corn takes second row seat to enjoy the show**

Haaaaa OP You are just .... well make i just deh observe shaaa

virginboy1:
Why is it that insightful thread like this hardly hits frontage?

Hahahahaha i doubt if something this raw and crude and directly an attack on two of world's biggest religions ever will make frontpage.

Oosie:
My friend, planet X is in our solar system. Its in a elliptical orbit around the sun. It takes 3600 years for it to orbit the sun once. It is believed that it has life on it. This is information that the government don't want you to know. You have too look at the right places if you want to do research on it.

It highly improbable that a planet with such orbital period and distance from the sun would be habitable at least judging from what we know or rather think we know.

If such planet is confirmed it would likely he a gas giant, Ice giant more so and would be the most cold world we know of in our system going from our criterias for life sustenance like right distance from the parent star.

it is more likely for life to exist on Uranus or neptune or even pluto than such an extremely cold world farther away than these other cold worlds too.

I disagree with this unless we need to change our criterias for emergence of life at least in our system

KunleOshob:
This actually a lot of evidence of technology which was way adavanced of ancient civilizations chief of which is the great pyramid of Giza. How it was built is still a mystery till today. Also this website http://s8int.com/ provides a lot of evidence of unexplained ancient technology if you have time, i suggest you go through it, it would prove to be very enlightening

Just because we have not figured out how ancient people built stuff Yet doesn't mean they got help from Aliens, it simply means We don't know yet

MarieSucre:
Nice signature. is that your personal quote?

Hewn from my post on a science section thread, full post on my DP but indirectly by proxy derived inspiration from very many other philosophical quotes from great thinkers.

Like Carl Sagan Pale Blue Dot. You know it right?

Mathematics is the language of the universe and the oil by which science is eaten!!!.

While Einsteins relativity E=mc² explained most of the mechanisms of our macro world it falls short in the quantum world or even a blackhole.

I also wonder why Newton's second law of motion is not there, it explains a lot to us about motion we experience everyday F=ma

anyway hopeful string theory will deduct an equation that unifies everything!!!

urahara:
But funny enough he could spare lot who wanted to have his daughters gang raped to death

It beats me how such a man is more innocent and deserves saving more than little Children..

Belief erodes basic objectivity in human minds when they defend the absurdities in their beliefs.

Muslims would never condemn pedophilia since their supreme prophet was guilty of it

urahara:
But if such a story were to be inside the quran.these hypocritical christians would criticise it without prejudice.they wont ever bother to be saying nonsense like the above statement

This is very true!!!

Annunaki:
Well there are actually pointers in the bible to what you will describe as alien visitation the most compelling being the nephlim story in genesis 6. Also we know that Abraham was from Ur in babylonia which was part of summeria were the annunaki story came from. There is a clear correlation btw the the genesis 6 account of the nephlim which was written in greater detail in the book of Enoch and the summeria stories of the annunaki and when we take into account that abraham was originally from summeria, a pattern bbegins to emerge.

So you are of the opinion that the 'Alien Visitation' theory is legit, then that seems likely that almost all Middle Eastern Semtic deities are originally curled from the Sumerian Annunaki Gods.

-Could it be that Gods to them were advanced humanoids that visited earth?

-E.g i once saw a book about this your Alien theory that pointed how Smoke and thundering sounds filled Sinai when ever Yahweh was said to visit moses. it proposes how it could have been a primitive representation of a rocket landing... thats curious.

explains how of course Yahweh is represented with an almost human-like persona and moses even saw his back (he has a back).

some recognize Yahweh as developed from the Sumerian God Ea (Annunaki) same Deity Ea warned Utnapishtim and instructed him to build a boat in the sumerian flood deluge.

- Could it possibly means these Gods were all aliens who visited humans and due to our primitive nature then they were viewed as beings of unlimited power due to their advanced technology?

E.G Apollo with his flaming chariot could be a jet
ancient coin depiction of the deity Yahweh shows a human figure seating on a winged wheel? does this connote mechanical flight

-Begs the question Where is everybody?
-In what language did they communicate unless of course they taught humans speech.
-why aren't they here anymore? if they are dead their children shouldn't be just like we children of primitive men are still here.

I do not really buy into the Ancient astronaut visitation theory but it is curious i agree

afonjay:
my man u really hit d point but one is in trouble than each other. Saraki is in trouble than others

We'll get to see the end of the dance brother

joseph1013:
[b]SYRIA, ISLAMIC STATE AND THE BIBLE

Just seeing the news that last month, US Secretary of State, John Kerry said IS (Daesh) was "genocidal by self proclamation, by ideology and by actions". He said this Islamic group had committed genocide against Yazidis, Christians and Shia Muslims.

Attacks against Yazidis included (just like Boko Haram) the execution of hundreds of men and boys and enslavement of hundreds of women and girls. The women and girls were sold as slaves or forced to "marry" IS fighters, which is the Islamic way of saying they were forcibly used for sex--they were raped.

There cannot be many people, regardless of religion, who are not deeply horrified by this systematic brutality. But Christians would do well to remember Numbers 31.

In this Bible chapter, God ordered Moses to punish the Midianites. The Israelites attacked the Midianites as commanded, killed all the men and brought all the women and children back to their camp. But, in verses 17-18, Moses was angry that they had failed to killed everyone, so he ordered all the married women and boy children to be slaughtered but the virgin girls to be kept for the men.

According the the Bible, God ordered the 32,000 virgins to be shared among the soldiers and other men. Thirty two virgins were sacrificed to God.

Fortunately, there is no reason to believe this story is true but, if you believe it, ask yourself what exactly is the difference between the behaviour of God and the behaviour of IS?

Remember that question next time you get on your knees to pray.

...........

Numbers 31:17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.[/b]

To this one would point the right accusing finger at the concept of "Revealed Faith" claimed as a basis by these religions.

Not only is faith a dishonesty clutch at exercising belief on things without reason to be believed.

'Revealed faith' in this essence is not only complete nonsense but a dangerous and extremely lethal nonsense.

Dangerous because it gives people confidence in their own claimed righteousness, and exercise of faith that they can earn a false courage to kill themselves and this removes that barriers associated with killing others.

Cus the worth of human life has been diminished by the claim of a revealed charge by their respective God(s) that needs to be carried out.

Such dangerous clutch at dishonest false delusion is dangerous for our continuity and as long as they are people who think they are receiving direct instructions from the creator of the universe on who to kill or what to do with others.

Such actions as you have shown here both that of the bible and IS actions will continue!!!

KingEbukasBlog:
The Lord has to be praised

Hahahahahahahaha Don't worry na El Rufai things sure pass Person no go sleep for them again? them no fit praise am when it's dawn abi the praise go spoil?

Abeg who carry El Rufai number

Bolade005:
Bro, you obviously are not married yet. It's not like you don't want to get her what she want but they'd just crave something impossible at weird hours. My wife once woke me up at 1am telling me she want roasted corn. Where on God's green earth will I get that at that time?. I couldn't and she wept from that time till about 4am or so when she dozed off. Nothing wey I no take beg my wife, she didn't stop crying and calling me an uncaring husband. Numerous examples sef that I can't begin to write here.

I pray your wife is not the type that crave weird things during pregnancy.

Boss you didn't notice this in my post

I'd get her anything she asks for at anytime as long as it is possible

You can only do what is doable

KingEbukasBlog:
Choi nwanna I concur with your post . As I submit that post na so tey I just hibernate lappy sleep . I no be winsh oo . I be like say you no sleep sef

I sleep ooo but my problem be say once day break i no fit sleep again.. And the constant singing from the church close by did not even make it easy for sef

Ayomikun37:
Thoughts are ideas generated through the process of thinking... I don't know how to define it in Biological terms because it still remains a puzzle for science to solve. I therefore do not think that there's a generally accepted model yet...

Consciousness in general is what which still puzzles human study which we are getting 'this close' to solving each day but human thinking ability has been credited biologically to the brain

Now in the biological sense The Frontal Lobe of your brain is responsible for thoughts.

Now my ideas of thoughts though personally to me these parts of the human consciousness thinking, problem solving, planning would be understood better with the general understanding of consciousness of which of course we have never been able to disassociate with our brain and every other neuroreceptive network YET.

so since the brain directly as we know it is responsible for thought and the brain is matter, what conclusion can we draw from this?

As we keep mentioning matter none the less let us not forget no matter is expressly the same and while one may think inanimate matter in this case the correct usage is ORGANIC which is a complex network of reacting active values

So what can we infer from this in relation to your question?

Ayomikun37:
Erm... I really do not know how to define it... can you help?

The reason why i use questions and through your answers give you desired answered answers is for you to understand the very problem was solved by you..

so you can use any human medium you want to get an idea of what thought is

amaechi1:
I honestly love your insertion. However, the bitter pills will be swallowed by Saraki, who has rape Kwarans and the entire country of her common wealth.
People should know when the conquer!

i found that if we looked towards our local original and traditional philosophies, it could help us make sense of many situation plaguing us..

Well we only have to stand and watch them as they dance and play the Igede at let us refrain from stepping to turn ourselves into tools to nurture those who destroy us like the poor masses asking for saraki to be left alone.

we should stay out of their dance and plays, they absolutely do not care about our well being so why massage the very hands that steals from you

the masses always are their own worst enemy

KingEbukasBlog:
When we all share the same view on what we perceive about our environment . E.g When a family eats their dinner . Everyone agrees that mum's food is always delicious - that's our 'collective perception' . It deals with the majority though . But a member of the family might disagree with claim that the meals are tasteless .

Ok collective perception as you used here is the collectiveness of individual perception.

Since you and i recognize individual perception to be fallible how then can collective perception being a product of fallible individual perception not be fallible?

It can be fallible but much more reliable than individual perception since it involves distinct interpretations to collectively arrive at a deductive approximation..

Collective perception can only improve the quality of the truth not necessarily infer infallibility

I get your point though!!!

G'night sorry good morning brother if you be witch i no follow.. day don break

And to add: Since the question is about whether collective perception is fallible, this covers every aspect of perception and if just even one of these shows that collective perception can also be fallible means the whole concept is not 100% certain and therefore fallible.

even if it is as small as 0.1% it is still not total and therefore fallible. . .

Jesuuuuu the church near my house don start morning mass abeg make i sleep first before today's hustles start again.

Reading "The cosmos" by Carl sagan has finished me oo, nothing remain to sleep again before day breaks

KingEbukasBlog:
Let us not restrict ourselves to visual perception because perception involves sensory information - touch , smell , sound etc.

Touch

Through 'Collective perception' we can conclude that a surface is either rough or smooth . The temperature of a surface is either high or low . For temperatures we have instruments that validate our perception . The value after the measurement the hotness or coldness of the body can prove that individual perception is fallible but not collective perception

Smell

How pleasant or obnoxious a smell is can be determined by collective perception . Or is there an instrument that can validate our perception ?

Sound

How raucous , pleasing , mild a sound or music is can be determined by collective perception .There also are instruments to validate collective perception .

Taste

Is a meal salty , tasty , spicy , insipid ? This can be determined by collective perception .

Let me understand something here before i speak .. elaborate on the usage of Collective perception what does it imply in this regard?

..Jessuuuuuuu #Faints
This make-up can scare you to death for dream

This affirms you do not get older with time rather with money on your side time makes you younger

Na thunder go blast that thing weh say boys no go blow

Good info... More of these enlightening information we get the more Africans learn and shed little by little the baseless superstitions we employ to fill these gaps of ignorance.

KingEbukasBlog:
Good job on the links , I understand that science tries to explain these experiences though it is limited by what is physically observed . There are examples whereby a person narrates the surgery procedures or whatever activity performed at that time - he sees himself being surgically operated on , he observes everything that happens within a certain juncture .

Can you explain that ?

I cannot hope to know everything

Someone being surgically operated On is not really dead but rather in a subconscious state induced by the anaesthetic injection.

Or you are implying a clinically Dead patient is being operated On?

Sounds more like a subconscious version of Astral travel which of course is a projection of the illusionary mind.

There is no scientific evidence that astral projection as an objective
phenomenon exists.

There are cases of patients having experiences suggestive of astral projection
from brain stimulation treatments and perceptual anomalies ...

KingEbukasBlog:
But what do we also see ? Blue . Our visual perception denote the colour of the blue sky . Testing is certainly irrelevant because we indeed visually perceive the 'blue' sky .

Actually this is wrong, when we put our initial perception under scrutiny, we understand that there is no blue sky at all.

Just a colourless atmosphere.

The blue colour observed from space actually is from the oceans which makes up more than 73% of the earth not the sky (our sky is just a colourless atmosphere)

Areas where there is vegetation green is observed rather

A wrong visual perception is seeing a totally different colour , say green . Even the outcome of the test will still need visual perception to ascertain the validity of the results - what colour exactly .

Exactly but this time this perception has been dug past the surface of a seeming reality.

Say a card board sheet is used to make a wall painted to look indistinguishable from a concrete wall.

Surface perception will tell you it is a concrete wall but further probe ( testing) will reveal in actuality the real nature of the wall.

So our perceptive deductions are strengthened by further probe of initial perception.

And none can lay claim to absoluteness or infallibility

it is not easy to be nurturing and carrying the entire being of another human and so the female should be respected and adored for such stupendous task and beautiful wonder.

I'd get her anything she asks for at anytime as long as it is possible even stay awake to make sure she's comfortable while sleeping..

An Igbo adage says The child who dances Igede does not know that Igede is the dance of the spirit, he who dances it is in trouble, he who plays it is in trouble and even he who watches is in trouble

In this recent show of political potboiler of the Nigerian bureaucratic arena. A political music of Igede is at play here.

-The child who dances (Saraki) is in trouble
-he who plays (FG/APC) is in trouble
-he who watches (Us the citizens/masses) are in the trouble.

We watch as it unfolds and thus it goes the circle of Igede trouble is about to unfold before us (Nigeria)

**Observe Mode**

so the economic woes prevented him from wearing a cardigan? If he wanted even 10 he could have them in a flash but he didn't so why romancing with an emotional butter the direct act of volition of an individual

No no this appeal to emotion is totally uncool and way out of line. . . After all he knew he was 73years old before begging and campaigning to be elected not so?

Furthermore KingEbukasBlog to further the course of our enquiry i'd like to point out that contrary to your ideas that the brain is inactive during clinical death current studies and experimentations has show otherwise that the brain remains active and is actually indirectly the cause of the 'heart's demise' due to desperate signals in bombards the heart with in a desperate last minute attempt to save the heart but ends up killing it faster.

Contrary to your view, New Science researches has shown that the brain is active even after clinical death and may be directly responsible for Near Death Experiences at that moment of intense desperate activities and signals sending to the heart.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-23672150

http://m.livescience.com/50389-cardiac-arrest-dying-brain-signals.html

http://www.tested.com/science/life/457112-what-happens-brain-during-near-death-experience/

http://www.nature.com/scitable/blog/brain-metrics/could_a_final_surge_in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2390236/Near-death-experiences-explained-Surge-brain-activity-trigger-paranormal-visions.html

So what do you make of this new information that shows the Brain is active during the stage clinical death (which is the stage NDE occurs) and May actually be responsible for it as study shows?

Like play like play fayose don deh craze ooo anyway but in fela's voice.

"Outside Buhari deh (Craze world)
Na craze man be that(craze world)
animal in craze man skin (craze world)
na craze world be that (craze world)"

'Beast of no nation' forever one of my best fela song, holds a lot of message even what we are seeing now

Please who tried this recently to confirm for us

KingEbukasBlog:
Individual perception are fallible . What about 'collective perception ' is that fallible too ?

Yes collective perception can be fallible too. collectively when we look at the sky we all see a blue sky but in actuality the sky is colourless we only perceive the scattered blue wavelength of light in the atmosphere just like a mirage.

testability in order to confirm falsifiability and provability of a perception is the most trusted means of determining Human perceptibility of reality which of course cannot claim to be infallible too cus absoluteness i doubt can ever be attained.

KingEbukasBlog:
Well I said its tentative conclusion . I also thought of the emboldened text . But when you consider apperception - the mental ability to relate past experiences or what has been perceived in the past to a present experience- you'd realise that if someone keeps seeing a mirage over and over again , he can conclude that indeed it is not real when he now comes close with the intent of observation .

Knowledge can be obtained through observation - what thinkers do.

So now we have established human perception is not a hallmark of establishing what is real since it has shown that our perception can also be linearly interpreted to tender an illusionary projection far from reality?