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Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Will Go To Heaven More Than Christians If... by johnydon22(m): 10:17pm On Apr 06, 2016
KB524:
MAY YOU PERISH IN HELL FIRE for your irreverence utterance to most revered figure on earth.REPENT WHILE U STILL LIVE
You are a barbaric monster, your wicked utterance is disturbing really. How can you wish another human burn literally just for speaking ill of one dead dirty sun baked arab man.

Why are abrahamic faiths so aggressive and always use threats to ensure conformity.

I may not know your religion inside out but for the fact that it involves the belief of others burning in a literal fire because they don't share it's doctrine and revered concepts.

tells me everything i need to know about you and your religion.

And personally to me it is repulsive, barbaric, disturbing and wicked..
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerians, What Is God Doing About Our Current Problems by johnydon22(m): 10:08pm On Apr 06, 2016
analice107:
Am good. OK, will be waiting for your call. How's your bea?
she's splendid thanks... Will call you tonight
Science/Technology › Re: New Group Created For Curious Minds by johnydon22(m): 9:07pm On Apr 06, 2016
RobinHez:
A new bbm group has been created for those interested in discussing science and technology. If you're interested please put down ur bbm pins so you get added to the group.
BBM was too boring that i had to uninstall it and it was chopping a lot of my RAM..
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerians, What Is God Doing About Our Current Problems by johnydon22(m): 8:59pm On Apr 06, 2016
analice107:
You no get my time nah.
No not that. have been a bit busy, will call you. Hope you are good?
Science/Technology › Simplified Physics With Johnydon22 Part 1 (newton's Laws Of Motion) by johnydon22(op):
Being a bit busy but shouldn't stop us from making out time to add something to the intellectual development of our society.

I have decided to make a series of Simplified Physics sessions, explaining some fundamental aspects of physics in lay men terms for easy understanding by all and sundry..

I hope you enjoy them and contributions also are needed


NEWTON'S LAWS OF MOTION

No doubt Isaac Newton redefined our view of the universe and motion, and changed the global perception of universal motion..

It started simply with a basic question as it goes.. Newton was in his backyard when he saw an apple fall from a tree and he asked a question.

"Why should that apple always descend perpendicularly to the ground, why can't it go side ways or upwards but always to the earth's center?"

[color=000099]then he deducted, since the apple always falls towards a direction then there must be a force drawing it towards it.

therefore does the apple fall perpendicularly or towards the center? This then implies that if matter draws another matter then this force attraction that is acting on the apple from the earth is also acting on the earth from the apple.

https://www.chrismadden.co.uk/images/cartoons/apple-jobs-dies-cjmadden.gif

Both are drawn towards each other. [/color]

then the next question was

"why then doesn't the moon fall to earth, does this force also stretch beyond the earth as far as we thought, perhaps it is and it is even responsible for the moon's orbit" Newton thought to himself and set out to tender a mathematic solution to these suppositions.

remarkably he was right, it was the cause of orbit and i will explain this using his first law
NEWTON'S LAWS

Then newton developed three laws of motion which you can see in almost everything around you and apply these laws also.

-During the Hellenistic ages, Aristotle was one of the brightest minds of that era sort out to solve the problem of motion. He wondered why objects in motion eventually slow down and stop.

He concluded that [color=007700]"Objects in motion get tired and that is why they slow down and eventually stop[/color]

This explanation held sway through the Hellenistic era and a greater part of the medieval period until dispelled by Newton's deductions (laws)


FIRST LAW

also recognized as the law of Inertia.

This law states A body at rest will remain so until acted upon by an external force and a body in motion will remain in motion at a constant velocity and direction unless acted upon by an external force

So contrary to what Aristotle thought, a body in motion does not get tired and eventually rests but rather slows down due to external forces acting on it.

E.G: kick a soccer ball high up into the air, normally that ball should remain in a constant direction and velocity but due to air resistance (external force) and gravity (external force) it slows down and falls back down.

E.G 2: In a vacuum, an object will forever keep going on one direction at same speed. .. like in Space.

https://2012ojhssports.weebly.com/uploads/1/0/3/3/10332437/5719402.jpg?513

Explaining how that is responsible for orbits:

Since we now know that an object in motion will always remain so in one direction unless acted by another force, this was the initial condition of the celestial objects.

Moon for example would float directly in a straight line at a constant velocity in the vacuum of space until it comes within the earth's gravitational reach (external force)

So since matter attracts matter (gravity) the earth is attracting the moon towards it but the moon also is travelling straight.

so it has to obey both forces, its initial direction and the second force (earth's gravitational attraction). with both forces at a conflict of supremacy on which direction the moon is to take, the moon takes the part between both forces thus obey both at the same time.

and an orbit is born, it is both falling towards earth and going in a straight path interpreted in a circular motion.

https://media.wiley.com/Lux/34/331234.image0.jpg
SECOND LAW

This law states [color=#000077] The vector sum of the forces (F) on an object is equal to the mass (m) of that object multiplied by the acceleration vector (a) of the
object
[/color]

This means that the force of an object is equal to the mass of the object multiplied by the acceleration.

Simply put "acceleration of an object is directly related to the force applied and inversely related to the mass of the object.

thus F=ma

F= force
m=mass
a=acceleration

So if you kick a ball now, the force your KICK impacts on the ball can be calculated by multiplying the acceleration of your ball and the mass of the ball.

m×a=F
https://www.physics4kids.com/files/art/motion_laws2_240x180.gif

THIRD LAW

This law is quite simple ..

[color=000099]For every action (force) there is an equal reaction [/force) ..[/color]

You can see this when you seat on a chair, when you put you weight on a chair, an equal amount of force is needed from the chair to hold your weight or it will collapse.

..For every punch you throw at someone's nose there is an equal reaction from the impact...grin

There's also the example of shooting a cannonball. When the cannonball is fired through the air (by the explosion), the cannon is pushed backward. The force pushing the ball out was equal to the force pushing the cannon back, but the effect on the cannon is less noticeable because it has a much larger mass.

If the cannon ball and the cannon are of equal mass both would move at different directions at the same velocity but since the cannon is more massive the force was just enough to jerk it backwards.

That example is similar to the kick when a gun fires a bullet forward...

Also when you collide or bumb into someone, the force that throws you backwards is equal to the one that throws the person towards the other direction.

https://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59783000/jpg/_59783911_014562973-2.jpg

Here sums up our lesson on motion, i apologize for the length and we are open to questions and other submissions that will improve the quality of information passed and knowledge gained.

Pictures credit: www.Google.com

Cc. Loj, UjSizzle, teempakguy, sukkot, hahn, Antiparticle, RobinHez, mrphysics, dekatron, menesheh, prot0n, sirWere, OpenMinded, freecocoa, krystalzkris ..

Expect more "Simplified Physics with Johnydon22" series on many more topics..

Takes a bow
Christianity Etc › Re: Reasons Why Atheist Are Confused People by johnydon22(m):
virginboy1:
To me, Atheists who think "belief" is the only problem of this world and Theists who think "belief" is part of the major solution to the problems of this world are no difference. It is either they are both blind or not being realistic.
Kaykaymil:
But in this life either you stand for something or You stand for nothing.
No virginboy is correct...

Belief is not the Only problem of the world neither is it a solution to world problems.

Belief is harmless in essence but once it becomes an enemy of truth, it should be discarded because it then is a problem to the world.

We should try to know things rather than believe things.

Belief is a mark of uncertainty but an exercise of agreement none the less, it is dishonest but once held personally as an opinion is fine.

But once it seeks to be held higher than empirical deductions and study, it becomes a nonsensical and deplorable concept.

And discarding such is not an act of rebellion but out of respect to human intellect..
Science/Technology › Re: Nigeria To Send An Astronaut To Space by johnydon22(m):
Joke of the century.

We don't even have One observatory in Nigeria, Just one observatory just 1 like this .. tiny winny 1.

And this daft minister of Joke and comedy ministry is talking about sending Astronauts to space.

We don't even have a healthy astronomical/cosmological agency, Physics and Astronomy in Nigerian universities are joke to other foreign universities..

We'd prefer poking around temples, churches and mosques getting brain clogged with undiluted myths and legends.

He should first talk about a good science background in our schools.

top notch up to date scientific discoveries and knowledge should be added to our school curriculum.

Get observatories in Nigeria.

Develop a Physics and Astronomical agency and join the other nations in developing cosmological knowledge.

Open a ground for free thinking and scientific importance and draw a line between Our science and religious beliefs.

Only then can Nigeria move a little bit further.

About sending Astronauts to space, its not about just going to space to poke around and fall back to earth.

It's a further step in development of astronomical knowledge, so its not about planning to pay engineers from other counties to make our rockets and launch for us just to pay a visit to space.

It's about knowing what you are doing there and not just visit for visiting sake...

Space travel is not an achievement if you have no reason or purpose to go there!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerians, What Is God Doing About Our Current Problems by johnydon22(m): 4:52pm On Apr 06, 2016
analice107:
Hello Jon
Hey Ann.. being long we talked dearie
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerians, What Is God Doing About Our Current Problems by johnydon22(m): 4:43pm On Apr 06, 2016
analice107:
There are no Gods, you forgot?
Ann you are better than this.. You couldn't read between the lines ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Exclusive (photos&video):girl Turns 2 Python During Iginla's Crusade In Cameroun by johnydon22(m): 2:30pm On Apr 06, 2016
..Haaaaa the day Africans will be freed from stupid, moronic superstitions and abject pitiable gullibility such as this is the day they will be ready to join to global field of scientific giants.

Python?

where is the python?

What exactly has Christian religion turned africans into? Is this clown show of brain dead first class gullibility salvation?

I am ashamed when ever i see things like this.

21st century humans should be well above this but alas some simpletons would rather remain neck deep in such demeaning bullshiit and clown party.

Even a cheap unplanned unscripted youtube amateur film is miles ahead of this clown show..
Christianity Etc › Re: Reasons Why Atheist Are Confused People by johnydon22(m): 2:24pm On Apr 06, 2016
UyiIredia:
The debate was about evolution and he was ignorant of my points against your precious theory. God wasn't involved.
The debate was about evolution? ..where do you keep your brain before coming here.

Me debate you? ..lol.. I have suffered.

No it was just a small lesson on the fallacious application of "God of the gap" argument, "Appeal to ignorance"

any gap should be filled with any assumption, hence once you have a question about "nature" assume up a God for it.

You never really even mustered a point banter words like "ignorance, god, fairyland"

You lot need an upgrade, perhaps physical discussion can ensure that?
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerians, What Is God Doing About Our Current Problems by johnydon22(m): 1:07pm On Apr 06, 2016
Joshthefirst:
Tell that to the indigenous communities that missionaries gave medicine and education to. Mtchew.

The missionaries came first to preach the gospel, Mary slessor came and abolished the killing of twins in calabar. Missionaries came before the colonialists and their cultural domination.

And by your logic if I was born in stalins regime I would be spouting the victories of an atheist state.
Cognitive dissonance is something i see you are quite good at, always going in circles and arguing off point when stumped.

Your argument was rubbished here.

Many missionaries were also colonialists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Christianity_and_colonialism

Islam followed wherever Arabs conquered

Christianity followed wherever Europeans conquered
Had Arabs come to the south of Nigeria, you would be claiming that islam is
the one true religion
But you had to stick to your gun shamelessly going over some meaningless babbles.

It is a known fact that "the flag comes with the cross and the moon and star sign follows arabic (islamic) propagation.

Bishop Desmond tutu even testified to this in his famous quote "When the missionaries came to Africa, we had the land and they had the bible. they taught us how to pray with our eyes closed when we opened them, they had the land and we had the bible"

Chinua Achebe painted a clear picture of how the cross led the flag and the flag nurtured the cross in the conquest of the African society.

Civilization is a consistent and progressing thing and not a mark of colonial outreach.

It can be propagated by trade and commerce relationships, and inter-tribal and communal relationships.

Nobody needs to colonize the other for civilization to encroach.

Fela once said.

"Africans think they are independent but still under colonial rule in terms of religious subordination"

An act of Stockholm syndrome, worshipping the very hand that whipped you and carried you off you land..
Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 12:51pm On Apr 06, 2016
vooks:
This is another thinly veiled antitheistic rant.
The best you can do to your kid is to share your values to them

There is nothing like 'good because the world deserves good', teach them right and wrong and consequences of both.

But as I always remind atheists,and most are quite moral in fact better at morality than theists, they lack any logical basis for their morality ultimate meaning and purpose.



It took several young lives lost in a river and nearly mine before I learnt the dangers of drowning. If mentioning consequences of bad 'instills psychological trauma and prisons their minds', consult your nearest armchair sophist
quite very nonsensical this is i must say.

I have always affirmed any human who asserts "Humans have no logical basis for a good ethical and moral conduct" without an external coercion stemming from an alleged punishment or selfish reward scheme is not moral in essence and i call that line of thought stupi_d and dangerous to human development and well being.

If you cannot find basis to be good to other humans (moral) other than just "a belief" in an external authority then humanity has no hope with people who share such thoughts because they are all a potential dangerous time bomb to our continuous existence.

Morality is a human construct, a product of societal relationships and every human, Atheists or not has every logical basis to be moral and ethical in a society.

-Love

-compassion

-Empathy

-Sympathy

-Pity

-Community

-Social bond

-Family

-Love for earth and things in it

-Obedience to societal norms in accordance with societal well being, equality, justice and freedom.

Oh there are thousands of such logical basis why "Atheist" as well as any humans should and should be moral and ethical.

Only that you have been roped to only see as a basis the coercion by the threat of a hell and the greed in the clamor of a reward.

Those are not even basis themselves but are acts of fear and selfishness and so it is someone who has such mindset is to be said to have no logical basis for morality.

You may assume up claims of an external love, like being good for the love of God.

We do not need such assumptions and misplacement of human emotions, we do not need such "fear" masked as "love.

Rather it should be, Be good to other humans for the love of other humans and be good to earth for the love of earth

No external coercion involved or the need of an assumptive authority neither is it seen as a means to a selfish end (paradise) or fear to escape a punishment (hell).

I'm sure everyone can see who has every logical basis to be moral.

The assumption of an imaginary consequence to threaten children into conformity is a dangerous grasp of deception and abuse.
and itself can never be a moral approach to child formation and instruction.
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is God And He Answers Prayer by johnydon22(m): 3:48pm On Apr 05, 2016
asalimpo:
so the guy was gonna harm her!! c'mon dude. stop being daft. The dude was tripping,
he doesn't deserve the brush off.
only an idiot will think my comment was st.upid.
whether he was tripping or head over heels or even over the moon, she has the God damn right to refuse any advances.

which planet are you from?

No woman is under any obligation to agree to any advance or even pay mind to it..

grow the fuc_k up my brother
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is God And He Answers Prayer by johnydon22(m):
asalimpo:
The guy is tripping for you - why dont you stop being a b*tch and give him a chance - You gals and your stu.pid formings...
What's even the big deal about you sef. You could be as ugly as bulldog to begin with?
And you cannot even listen to yourself? Is that how to talk to people, is it by force that she must oblige to meeting any dic_k and harry on a faceless forum.

People have the right to protect themselves, refuse any invitation or proposition anytime any day.

Only an idiot would raise dust over it

I am sure people who read this knows who the stupi_d person is here...

when you talk to a girl and she refuses, either raise your shoulder stretch your shirt and move on or try harder she may well reconsider.
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerians, What Is God Doing About Our Current Problems by johnydon22(m): 3:36pm On Apr 05, 2016
The God(s) are still using swords and riding horses there is nothing they can do for us who now fly on aeroplanes.

There are no gods flying down to help humanity, the power to mar or save ourselves sorely rests with us.
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is God And He Answers Prayer by johnydon22(m): 3:32pm On Apr 05, 2016
juhan:
yes.....u're asking God to say hi to you? There's a reason why He is called God nah there's no way He'll just say hi to you just like that.....
In the bible 'God' (Yahweh) used to visit moses like tomorrow no deh, yarn with the guy one on one.

He even saw God's back (God is a humanoid)

then God even came and stayed with the elders, talked to the entire people, divided a sea, rapped music for Job and then made a public announcement on Jesus's baptism.

Now suddenly he cannot say "Hi" because he's God grin all the other times he has being doing it he wasn't God?

Remarkable how God was a popular rapper and magician showing his talent everywhere in the bible.

then suddenly now that we have video cameras "He went on AWOL"

And your excuse is "because he's God"..

That's not only a very wretched excuse but a lame one as well
Christianity Etc › Re: Igbo People Are The Hebrews Of The Bible ... 100% Proof by johnydon22(m): 5:13am On Apr 05, 2016
TRHM:
This message is for the Igbo people .... and those who might be interested.

These videos provide proof that the Igbos are the Hebrews of the bible:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbIlL4Wj3aM&list=PLr4G1DkkRSVQjiFAgxT5cRsgGCEr7GEZm&index=2

For a long time, Igbos have been decieved into thinking we are of Jewish origins. But these videos proof we are not Jews but we are the people of the bible.

As a result, we Igbos, are to return to the original biblical Hebrew worship,

Christianity is not the biblical worship, it is a form of paganism
Judaism also is not the biblical worship, Jews actually don't care about the bible but about the Talmud.

This message is important for Igbos to understand and follow.

ibosaretherealhebrews.com

One God and one Love.
You people should stop peddling shiiiit in the name of one uselesss conspiracy distorted upside down idiotic history.

Igbos did not migrate from any Middle Eastern part of the world.

they are of niggro race just like every other west african culture, so there are all more closely related than every other part of the world.

You sir should stop trying to attach yourself to what you are over some nonsensical "superior race" idiocy.

there is nothing special in being Hebrew ... and Igbo traditional religion is Henotheic.
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is God And He Answers Prayer by johnydon22(m): 12:11am On Apr 05, 2016
RobinHez:
"in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth!"

Has there been any other who has been able to make such weighty claim? Even science doesn't know what caused the Big Bang!


There is a God, and it is evident in everything we know! If only we open our minds... lipsrsealed
There are thousands that made such claims.

Abira
Adroa
Ahone
Ahura Mazda
Aiomun-Kondi
Alatangana
Amotken
Anansi
Anguta
Anulap
Aramazd
Atum
Awonawilona
B
Bagadjimbiri
Bai-Ulgan
Baiame
Banaitja
Batara Kala
Bathala
Brahma
Bunjil
C
Cagn
Cghene
Chaotroquin
Chirakan-Ixmucane
Cocijo
Coyote (mythology)
D
Daksha
Damballa
Dohkwibuhch
E
Earth-maker myth
El (deity)
Elohim
Enki
Eskeri
F
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Fon creation myth
G
Gitche Manitou
God
God the Father
User:Gonzales John/sandbox
H
Heryshaf
Hœnir
Holy Spirit (Christianity)
Huracan
I
I'itoi
Imra
Inyan
Itherther
Ixpiyacoc
Izanagi
J
Jah
Jesus
K
Karora
Kayra
Kengue
Khnum
Khonvoum
Krishna
Kuk (mythology)
Kukulkan
Kuterastan
Kutkh
L
Lóðurr
M
Makemake (deity)
Mandé creation myth
Mangar-kunjer-kunja
Mbombo
Melek Taus
Muluku
Mwari
N
Nanabozho
Ngai
Ngenechen
Nogomain
Noncomala
Num (god)
Numakulla
O
Obatala
Odin
Olelbis
Olodumare
Omai (deity)
P
Pacha Kamaq
Pangu
Pariacaca (god)
Prajapati
Prometheus
Ptah
Pūluga
Pundjel
Q
Q'uq'umatz
Qat (deity)
Quetzalcoatl
R
Rangi and Papa
Raven Tales
Rod (god)
S
Serer creation myth
T
Ta'aroa
Tabaldak
Tagaloa
Taryenyawagon
Tengri
Tezcatlipoca
Tloquenahuaque
Tonacatecuhtli
Tupã (mythology)
Tzacol
U
Unkulunkulu
Unumbotte
V
Vili and Vé
Viracocha
Vishvakarman
X
Xamaba
Y
Yahweh
Yuanshi Tianzun
Z
Zamba (god)

You need to get out of your shell and be honest with yourself. Your own version is not the only to make such claims.

stop buttering belief into science!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is God And He Answers Prayer by johnydon22(m): 12:06am On Apr 05, 2016
"Actions" are the only prayer nature answers.."
Science/Technology › Re: The Fermi Paradox by johnydon22(m): 11:48pm On Apr 04, 2016
SirWere:
Meh, I think not.

Think about it :

-They are obviously more advanced than us, seeing that the nearest planet liable to support life are a few million light years away.

- They would probably be glad to see another lifeform (assuming we are the first one they see) whom they can share ideas with and stuff.

- For Christ sake, this guys can probably go anywhere in the observable universe. Why conquer Earthhuh


No, methinks UFO will probably be like us, not extremely bad nor extremely good but somewhere in between.
Hahahaha Humans are the most blind and deluded species i know of.

We have not shared ideas and stuffs with other life forms we have close relationship with and share this planet with.

we have not and i doubt if we can even establish any form of communication with these closely related earth neighbours we have around.

But here we are hoping to establish communication with one that is extra- terrestrial from our home planet.

what are you going to speak to the Aliens? English?

So blinded from that which is in front of us we are deluding ourselves with that which is far away from us that can be called but a shadow.
Science/Technology › Re: The Fermi Paradox by johnydon22(m): 11:43pm On Apr 04, 2016
OneManLegion:
I did a bit of snooping around yesterday and my gut instincts tell me there almost certainly ARE extra-terrestrial sentient beings.

Sometimes, these conspiracy theorists just have a point.

Who's read on "The Ariel Event"?

Happened in Zimbabwe, on the 14th of September 1994.

Cc. SirWere
Johnydon22
Taurus25
taurus25:
well honestly, till date that is one of the most convincing ive read about coupled with the fact that no rational explanations have been given ......i think a movie about it is in production.
if atall there are truly aliens then maybe its high time they stop their hide and seek game
I have never read that story and i just did so this night but i must say it is not all that convincing to me.

Ok lets imagine the scenario where all the adults in the school were in a meeting leaving only the pupils in the play ground.

-First it is unlikely for schools to leave only pupils in a play ground without an adult eye.

Now on a second question plea

-the school is located at a certain area in a vicinity, surely there must be people leaving around.

hundreds if not thousands.

And out of all this enormous possible numbers no other person saw the craft land except the school children?

Naaaah that is very unlikely.

For that story to have weight there must be other people outside who must have also seen a space craft escorted by smaller ones approach the school.

But nobody did.

the only testimony available are that of the pupils..

No that is no convincing enough for me...

You see when it comes to U.F.O sightings i am very sceptical about it..

In science "eye witness account" is not evidence.

Nei Degress Tyson once said " you cannot come out and claim you saw an alien ship or was abducted by one, such eye witness account doesn't hold water. If you want to be listened to why not grab something from the ship and show to us"

In science nobody takes "eye witness account" as an evidence.

If someone brings out an alien artifact taken from an alien ship, we all know it will be very unusual and different from every other thing we have on earth, therefore can add a little weight to their claims.

Until someone provides solid proof for such claims, such stories remain stories (claims) and in the scientific community remains bogus.
Christianity Etc › Re: Sango, Thor And Zeus....same Gods, Different Cultures by johnydon22(m): 1:10pm On Apr 01, 2016
According to Hellenistic theology, the God Zeus himself was the king of the gods and a father to men, Thor is just a son of Odin and Sango if i am correct was once human before he transcended into deityhood.

Only Zeus holds the title of a Creator father figure out of these deities ... So the three cannot be the same.

they may represent anthropomorphically the same natural phenomenon which is lightening but cultural propagation and copy has led to personification of distinct natural manifestations in many cultures.

Yes they might be the personification of the same phenomenon by distinct culture but with the characteristics heaped on them, they cannot be said to be the same deity.

And OP where is Our Igbo God of thunder amadioha ? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Exposes The Lie Of Horus! by johnydon22(m): 5:31pm On Mar 31, 2016
analice107:
OK, but I called u up with regards to what the OP asked. Like I said, I don't have much ideas about this, so I thought u could answer the OP.
Alright i'd like you to highlight the particular question you'd like me to shed a light on.
Christianity Etc › Re: Reasons Why Atheist Are Confused People by johnydon22(m): 2:56pm On Mar 31, 2016
UyiIredia:
Not from ignorance but from what we know about those things we can be sure that Nature could not have possibly been self-existent and couldn't possibly evolve living things unaided. So God is the guiding hand that not only made nature but life and conscious humans in it. You can keep living in yoir atheist fairyland. That's your business.
Hahahahahahaha marvelous ... This is why we only get these in religious classes....

I am yet to see you provide your works on how natural values cannot interact to bring forth results must require an external hand. . since you know i am sure proving it aint hard so why not bring it out and earn a nobel prize for it.

we all know nobody has earned a nobel prize with that yet so here is your chance.

Its no longer "God created nature fully complex and functional" but now rather "the guiding hand of natural evolution"

Ignorant assumptions is never a placeholder for scientific ignorance, or it will be an ever receding and irrelevant factor.

10,000 Gods may exist but if you will only hide their relevance behind the curtains of scientific ignorance then your god will always be an unneeded hypothesis in the face of scientific discoveries.

grin

Hahahahaha you lot believe in a land of golden street and diamond water and a sunless realm and golden robes and golden sashes with horse riding Gods..

don't worry though, atheists are the ones that live in a fairytale grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Reasons Why Atheist Are Confused People by johnydon22(m): 2:29pm On Mar 31, 2016
Kaykaymil:
What Uyi Iredia means is that even as man when we create things we leave traces of physical composition in them take for instance a computer has a heart = cpu, nerves = wires, eyes = camera/screen.... so Even as we were created by God it was the same self he used in making us.
You can call this an hypothesis but it has already been proven bro
This is ridiculous ... it is a hypothesis that is found mostly in theological classes.

If you argue because man has these qualities therefore must require a kind of designer to assemble them and this designer inspired these qualities in man therefore this designer must also have these qualities.

So how can man be designed and that designer that is also similar to man in features do not need to be designed?.

If you argue complexity connotes design then for something to be powerful enough to design man that thing must be more or at least as complex as man.

so if complexity connotes design then that complex designer also must require another designer who in turn must require another designer and so it keeps going.

but if you exempt this complex designer from being designed that means complexity doesn't require design and that kills all your argument..

That special pleading does not work... When something is proven it leaves the realm of faith and belief..
Christianity Etc › Re: Reasons Why Atheist Are Confused People by johnydon22(m): 2:15pm On Mar 31, 2016
UyiIredia:
The evidence from Nature 1) consciousness 2) design in life 3) order in the universe form the basis on which God is inferred as a solution to the question. We didn't just wish God out of thin air.
Oh you did wish God out from thin air because you are only using "God" as a placeholder for your ignorance of the things you listed above.

That you don't know something is a call for study not wishful assumption.. That there is a tree is not an excuse for me to infer tree fairies must exist that is a ludicrous assumption.

That i don't know how a tree came to be doesn't prove tree fairies ... So your ignorance is never evidence of your assumptions.
Christianity Etc › Re: Reasons Why Atheist Are Confused People by johnydon22(m): 2:10pm On Mar 31, 2016
Kaykaymil:
Nicely said in summary we can have problem with religion and not with GOD because the only true religion is LOVE if we all loved each other there would have been no need to ever doubt the existence of God.
The word "God" have many meanings and uses and can be used to represent many values.

So depends on your uses of the word, if it is in the realm of conceptual we can say there is such idea.

If "God" is a living conscious humanoid then i believe substantiation is needed for such claim.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Exposes The Lie Of Horus! by johnydon22(m): 11:24am On Mar 31, 2016
analice107:
I know a friend who is very versatile in these things. Let me call him up, maybe, just maybe, he can help us out. Johnydon22. Pls help us here. I don't really know about horus, but am certain you do.
Horus is an Egyptian deity most times represented with a human figure and the head of an hawk.

He was the son of the God osiris and the Goddess Isis and together they make up the Egyptian triune God family.

According to legend, the God seth killed Osiris and scattered his remains in the nile, Isis reassembled the scattered corpes of osiris and conjured up a penis for him and resurrected him for enough time to conceive a child by him.

the child was Horus bane of seth...
Christianity Etc › Re: Reasons Why Atheist Are Confused People by johnydon22(m): 11:03am On Mar 31, 2016
Richirich713:
Yes flog, rape them Nd burn them, hell what's wrong about that?

I mean we atheists have no moral foundation, so there's nothing truly wrong about rape, murder, stealing, etc. Stalin wasn't truly wrong, it's survival of the fittest.
Of course i do all these things. I murder, rape and steal as much as i want and the much i want is zero (0)
Christianity Etc › Re: Reasons Why Atheist Are Confused People by johnydon22(m): 11:01am On Mar 31, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
No need to rebut. God stops you from raping and maiming people. I'm happy with that.
I am always scared of people who do not find any need for a moral and ethical behaviour towards other humans unless they are being threatened by some freaky monster with a burning torture chamber to be moral.

Always be scared and suspicious of such person because such person have no moral compass, idea or position of his/her own but needs to be controlled by something else, cannot think for himself.

Morality is the product of a society, so everybody in a society has an obligation towards one another for the well being of the society and continuation.

I shudder in fear when i see people talk like that, cus he has shown without the idea of a torture hungry god, he would be maiming and causing havoc on the society.

I murder, steal, rape as much as i want and the much is 0

Somehow he is right we have no morality and that morality i am referring to is one roped in the ideas of his religious doctrines.

I have sex with any consenting adult i want and fuc_k what his religion thinks.

I do not go to church and that is an immoral act according to his religion.

Maybe those are the morals atheists don't have.

What i find moral is actions towards others and that is all..

If people cannot find reasons to be good to others unless threatened to do so then humanity is a sorry lot indeed.

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