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Scholar8200:
Apologies to the op, I am not an expert here.
However, I see nature as the response of all Creation to the ordinances/laws set by the Creator with respect to changes in the Divine order of creation, after the fall.
If it were all energies , chaos and then order, whence the perfectly reasonable and constant laws (eg Gravity)? Who set those laws?

#sighs for goodness sake simply take a glance into the physics text book to at least understand the simple mechanisms behind these natural phenomenons.. there is no "who" needed in the process neither are these things "laws" as that of a judiciary..

(You mentioned the Goat? I believe those animals underscore the fact of a Creator! Why? If man evolved from Apes, I would have expected that Apes, NOT Goats, would have a goatee!)

You were saying?

I am not here to make any case for biological evolution though, Just used the pictures to show you just how naive the bolded words were.

these other primates also have beards just like humans contrary to your naive expectations.

It can only take great ignorance of these other primates for someone to avow that..

KingEbukaNaija:
And mind you plaetton - the universe coming from chaos was just an inference drawn from a study . Science is open to modifications and that random chaos cause of the universe's formation could likely change .

And this chaos is still in the fore front of universal evolution and modifications, it is still how the totality of natural manifestations occur.

Deep in the macro world, it is the chaotic tussle between Nebula and gravity that births stars, it is the violent nuclear fusion of stars that produces the most basic elements, it is the violent death of stars that scatter these elements in the cosmos making it possible for terrestrial planets like earth to have these in abundance.

There is no two ways about it, Chaos always produces results ...

And can you explain how nature understood that an ordered system has arrived after a chaotic process ? I mean , according to you , blind random processes and chaos made possible an ordered system through luck . Evolution has no goal or direction ... remember ? . So whatever we have now its not even its goal because it has none . Sh.it could change at any instance

No understanding was in place, Nature is ever changing, ever developing and ever chaotic.

The natural process does not understand a galaxy is already an ordered system before another slams into it and larger galaxies are born.

Old stars were less in composition than new ones because more elementary values enters the picture and the system gets more complex and changing.

There are thousands of asteroids that are in close orbit in this system that can crash into earth anytime.

Yes nature is a chaotic process and it is ever changing, it is not stagnant and no result is ever final..

So it will forever keep changing, it will forever keep modifying in respect to the constant chaotic values abound and that is the trait of a random system.

Those emirs are bunch of pedophiles..

OgundeleT:
sonoflucifer. ur room in hell fire has been reserved, the kind torture wey dem go give u go be like why me. just kontinu Jesus is watching you

Hahahahahahaha it's getting hotter ...

I could pay anything to see Jesus' face when the Holy spirit suggested he pull the sacrifice stunt..

Aaaaaah Mary never knew the HS was eyeing her ooo ... Poor girl

Abeg contunu ...**Sips orijin**

frank317:
U go wait tire. He just believes in the existence of his creator, he talks to him and experience this creator. Yet he needs you to prove to him that wht he feels in his bedroom and even inside his head does not exist.

How doesn't winner cover his head in shame even as Ebuka shamelessly feel his is full of wisdom when he is asking someone to prove that what he 'claims' exist does not exist?

Well what do u expect. When someone believes he has an invisible friend who created the world, he could also belief a foolish question is a wise one. Mumu.

While u are being foolish, can u also ask us to prove u are not sucking ur own dick at the moment?

Hahahahahaha you can imagine... Bunch of confused retar_ds who push for primitive superstitions and myths to be accepted as universal truths.

There is no shame in not knowing, the only problem is when irrational assumptions and attendant behaviour fills the gap left by ignorance.. I am never slow to agree not to know what i don't know.

"Man does not know how the universe started exactly YET is a call for study and that is SCIENCE and not a gap meant to be filled by primitive assumptions... If that is so we wouldn't have any need for science.

Left to such lunatics man would still be thinking lightening and hurricanes are as a result of an angry God... Human intellectual evolution keeps murdering that "philosophy of ignorance"

Well I am still waiting.. That proof must be provided .. Employing Burden of proof reversal fallacy will not save anybody here..

Weah96:
Not to mention that his question is non biblical. That is no way to introduce "lost souls" to the Christ who lives inside of you and talks to your gut or heart.

The Bible anticipated skeptics like me and provided a recipe that, if followed correctly by its practitioners, should leave only fools demanding more evidence. Problem is, they cannot show me the magic.

How can someone claim to talk to the thing who is not made of matter and is invisible, and I'm supposed to take his word for it.

And don't forget imperceivable yet they are talking to it and it's talking back..

How dah fuc...k can someone yarn so much dust... If something can talk to you then it is perceivable if its not perceivable then there is no way for it to talk to anyone ..

So all we are seeing here is a regurgitation of primitive assumptions

Talking to the "thing" that caused the universe that remarkably turned out to be a humanoid who has anger issues ...haaaa **Carries hand on head**

LoJ:


Just trying to get some of our people to be interested in Science. But they definitely do no want

Its a slow process bro...

ChappyChase:
No vex, am just stating the obvious

hahahahahahahaha

Chai...Pi day.. Loj where is my own pie?
I hope say i no come late

Hahahahahahaha Grabs a seat
Please continue this story abeg .... Don't keep us waiting naaa!!!

ChappyChase:
How old will she be by 2030? And would she not have died from cocaine overdose or any drug abuse related death?

Abeg no spoil my fantasy na ...

Nature8:
Lol.. I'm telling you bro, I don't mind going there with the love of my life and start a new life there.. This earth and their evil self..

Hahahahahahahahahaha If earth fails we all fail because EARTH is all of us..

ValerianSteel:
ESA's Chief believes that NASA should first look to the Moon before thinking of sending man to Mars or even building a settlemment there.He believes Moon has the answer to survivability on another planet.Why not start with a star 3days away rather than a planet two light years away.

He also wants to build a Human Village on the Far Side of the moon with plans to use conditions there to determine how astronauts can survive on Mars.He believes the Mars mission is not yet ripe in 2030.

However NASA has said they would return to the moon by 2020 but the Mars programme remains.

Also should NASA visit Europa before or after a manned mission to Mars.

Johnydon22

To me both the Moon and Mars are important to our Solar system explorations..

and yes the ESA chief is correct.. NASA is planning a manned missioned to the moon by 2018- 2020s ..

And it will be long duration missions and not the few hours missions of the Apollo's.

KingEbukaNaija:
Lmao .. Day 3 .. Johnydon22 has not proven the universe needs no creator .

That is not even the BOP game . Just simply show me . See why the universe needs no creator . This is the cause , here are exactly how events took place with evidence - images and videos included . Remember faith is illogical right ?

Not spamming threads with ludicrous vacuous garbage-deserving imaginations of mentally indolent people who claim impossibilities made possible the universe .

Are we joking here

And here we go again...

the logical fallacy of burden of proof reversal continues... Chai seriously i'd be ashamed if i am having a personal relationship with the universal cause but yet can't proof it's existence rather rely on asking others proof for the negate...

Common you can do better than this, you are claiming to have a universal creator and we are the ones demanding proof for that to validate your claims otherwise it remains an idiotic superstition but all we get in return is burden of proof reversal.

How many times have i taught you here that the burden of proof is on the claimant and not the person who doubts it .. Chai

So day 3 heading towards day 4 and you are still unable to provide for us empirical evidences of your personal creator who talks to you

I am a very patient person, so i'd wait as long as it takes you... I am still waiting, stop the shameful logical fallacy..

I'm sure weah96 is waiting with me, i hope we don't grow beards waiting

KingEbukaNaija:
Lmao . Interviews are held by journalists and professors were interviewed to give their view on the theory . Its more embarrassing because Stephen Hawkings tried conflating different ideas and ended up in a mishmash of assumptions. In summary , He wanted to sell books to the credulous atheists - sadly he made money from your desperation to disprove God . Ouch !

And gullible atheists like you picked on these things and claimed they preclude God's existence . Lwkmd . I wish every atheist would watch the video tho

Mr. Man science is advancing with theists in charge

Hahahahahahahaha we are still yet to see one science theory with "god did it" in the equation ..

I don die..

Nobody is trying to disprove any God, science aims at establishing truthful approximations through empirical studies and so draws a fine line between that and belief.

Keep calm and enjoy the ride of scientific advancement.. It is a Killer of God(s)...

I know how much it hurts seeing your "god" being murdered by modern science ... Sorry bro, we feel your pains

Another weak and pathetic rebuttal . Because there are so many fakes , there can't be a true one - if at this stage you come up with this distasteful inane argument you dont have any business discussing this topic with me .

Lmao.. here we are about to see "My God is the better God others are fake argument" that's a clutch for kids you know

The fact remains there are 5,000 of such abstract concepts and yours is one of them and everyone thinks they got the right one and are having a personal relationship with it.

Don't worry though you've got the right one

Your opinion is insignificant . Your raucous rants cant stop God from existing . DEAL WITH IT . You are simply a unit of the universe observing change - the birth , the growth , the demise of ANYTHING . You really need to understand the Logic of God and EVERYTHING
Cheers bro . Stay safe and dont do drugs


Rotfl

Hahahahahahahaha i sense someone getting worked up defending the "god up the gap" here

My opinion was influenced by the method of modern science which involves empirical deductions and study.

So no matter what, no matter how emotional your attachment towards your beliefs are it never leaves the sunday school into the science board DEAL WITH IT

Oh yes that is a remarkable and profound deduction i am almost impressed..

We are all units of a whole, parts of the bits that unites the music of the cosmos.. .

KingEbukaNaija:
And you floundered terribly when you attempted refuting them . .

Rotfl ...

I understand bro . Now run along and tell your friends your experience .

And let me not see you make those puerile arguments ever again

Hahahahahaha one thing i am good at is letting the arguments speak for themselves..

Anybody reading would notice the idiocy of comparing natural manifestations to artificial objects ...

Everyone is looking at the experience plain black and white no need for me to blow my trumpet, it speaks for itself..

So i am still waiting for you to provide proof for this your creator that you are having a personal relationship with.

You are gonna give us the proof ....!!!

lalasticlala:
Link to source of pics

done .!!!..added to the last post ...

ValerianSteel:
Or busy maiming and clubbing a suspected gay man to death.

I saw the news.. It was terrible and pure savagery

ValerianSteel:
Yeah I know about the laser beam technology.I believe it's achievable.

where is lalasticlala and mynd44.. This launch happened today and so is the hottest news in the science pitch now..

Do the needful

menesheh:
I don't understand why Mars Rover took a whopping 8yrs or so to reach its destination while there is this estimation of only 7 months for this one.

The curiosity lander took 253 days to reach Mars boss... that's like 8 months and not years..


(duration depends on speed of probe)

Weah96:
I think all pastors are LIARS, just like ALL presidents or heads of state.

T.B Joshua though is in another class of liars. He uses visuals and props to convince people that the lie is true.

I think he was an amateur magician or something.

I watch his emmanuel t.v programme when ever i need a laugh, it's so glaring that it could pass an amateur low budget nollywood movie

ValerianSteel:
The world needs a new form of energy to make space travel faster.

Laser beam propulsion can transport a probe to Mars in 3 days... The technology is still at infancy that it can only be achieved with a very small object but with further developments it may spell the future of solar system explorations.

LoJ:
Let you bae not read that I'm told she is on nairaland.
You may end up with Hulk

Hahahahahahahaha ... As long as she doesn't murder my asss

jmichlins:
you never can tell mate. just recently, the people living in the island of papua never believed that there is life beyond their horizon. aliens maybe in our backyard but not in the form we want them to be or we might be the aliens that invaded this planet. maybe what we call animals are the original owners of this planet. We are way too advanced to be associated with them.

Geofavor:
naah. So, what you're trying to say is that humans probably came from another planet? Not at all!

I have read something like that on one book called Earth's Mysteries asserts man came from another planet i think Mars as found in an ancient stone slab (we came from the red one in a flying boat).. But that is a wild twist and is unsupported by evidences.

-Humans and Animals in this planet shows physical similarities and so cannot be extra-terrestrial from each other..

(Scientifically any complex life that may exist beyond earth cannot possess the same Physical signature as the one on earth..

But most life on earth share this similarities... 2 eyes on top, nose in the middle and mouth below, limbs and etc..)

-DNA similarities suggest a more close relationship between humans and other inhabitants of this planets and not an extra-terrestrial one.

There is nothing known scientifically that makes humans any more different biologically to other animals as an alien life form should..

When we talk about life outside this planet, we are not really expecting a complex or intelligent life form rather simple mircrobile life forms that is enough.

Complex life forms are not the number one priority now but at least an organic signature of a microbile colony or something..

The universe is a vast arena ..

LoJ:
Nice pictures Johnydon22.

I read somewhere that, the astronauts that will be going to Planet Mars, shall never come back on earth. Is it true or misinformation? I was like, who is gonna accept to leave earth forever, as a young man/woman?

It is speculated that the 2030's will see the first set of humans in Mars and yes many people are ready and ever willing to go on that One way trip to the red planet.

Up to 100,000 candidates volunteered for the MarsOne mission ..

I don't mind going if i am going with my crush forever Rihanna

Cc. Lalasticlala mynd44

and then the schaperelli also called EDM (Entry, descent and landing demonstrator module)..

Lands on the Martian surface and the New Rover wheels out to begin exploration of the Martian surface along side the older rovers Curiosity and Opportunity Rovers..

https://www.bisbos.com/images_probes/exomarslanding_550.jpg

https://spacenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/ExomarsRover_ESA4X3-879x485.jpg

With the coming ExoMars mission in 2018 and the deep research that will be carried out deep down the martian surface.. The question

-Is there life on Mars?

May yet be answered in a decades time as these recent probes are tasked with the objective of drilling into martian surface for traces of organic signatures...

Picture credits:
http://spaceflight101.com/exomars/exomars-mission-illustrations/

m.esa.int..

The remainder of Trace Gas Orbiter takes an Orbit around Mars for atmospheric readings while Schaperelli makes a descent and landing into the Martian Surface..

https://spaceflight101.com/exomars/wp-content/uploads/sites/79/2016/03/ExoMars2016_TGO_EDM_Separated_Approach_20160218_1280-1024x577.jpg

https://spaceflight101.com/exomars/wp-content/uploads/sites/79/2016/03/ExoMars_2016_TGO_enters_orbit-1-1024x577.jpg

7 months later, 16 October 2016... Right before the red planet, Schaparelli which is a compartment containing the Mars Rover separates from the Trace Gas Orbiter probe for a descent into Mars..

Trace Gas Orbiter deploys it's Solar arrays and high gain antena 2 weeks after launch and the probe stays on a 7 months drift towards the Red planet..

https://spaceflight101.com/exomars/wp-content/uploads/sites/79/2016/03/ExoMars2016_TGO_EDM_Cruise_20160218_1280-1024x577.jpg

Components of the Trace Gas Orbiter (TGO)

https://spaceflight101.com/exomars/wp-content/uploads/sites/79/2016/03/ExoMars2016_TGO_and_EDM_annotated-1024x724.jpg

4th stage separation and acquisition of space probe's signals
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