Jeromejnr:


This man, you are still talking. After your beating round the bush on our last discussion and your eventual evasive action.

I have exhausted my energy abeg! I don't even have your time.

With all you said in our last discussion, I had closed your case already.

menesheh:
Why are you pained.

Atheism is not "something coming from nothing bla bla"

johnydon22:
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- Big bang does not assert nothing but rather the expansion of a singularity. .

johnydon22:


- It is not matter and energy but energy rather.

- it is an observed phenomenon.

- energy changes from one form to another and never had it been annihilated in a reaction.

- energy is an eternal particle going by that law of energy conservation...

johnydon22:


Law of energy conservation states: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed..

In other words the interacting elements gravity/matter also was. . . therefore needs no creator

johnydon22:


" The universe was born with the Big Bang as an unimaginably hot, dense point.
When the universe was just 10-34 of a second or so old — that is, a hundredth
of a billionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second in age — it experienced an
incredible burst of expansion known as inflation, in which space itself expanded
faster than the speed of light. "

johnydon22:


Actually your confusion is of your own making. . . If you followed this thread you would have seen scientific theory asserts the universe began from an infinite point (Singularity) which is energy ...

Which in every sense proves that energy transcends from one form to another, some in greater quantum value and some in less but never annihilated as the first law assert..

Energy can never be created nor destroyed but changes from one state to another..

Stephen Hawking:
"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going"

sonmvayina:


judge for your self, that is the cylinder seal...it is more than 3 thousand years..i dont think that was done by the people you called primitive, do you?

Richirich713:
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johnydon22:


You see what i will not have here is to misrepresent my assertions in order to make stupi_d unrelated points.

- Atheism has nothing to do with science

- My discussion based on the Big bang theory was sorely scientific

- Those words you put up there are scientific postulations of the big bang and even from the website jerome brought up..

Please i beg you in the name of everything here not to misrepresent my assertions again ... am sure this thread is clear enough for people to see the basis of my assertions..

I wouldn't take such idiotic straw man again!!!

johnydon22:


You see what i will not have here is to misrepresent my assertions in order to make stupi_d unrelated points.

- Atheism has nothing to do with science

- My discussion based on the Big bang theory was sorely scientific

- Those words you put up there are scientific postulations of the big bang and even from the website jerome brought up..

Please i beg you in the name of everything here not to misrepresent my assertions again ...

I wouldn't take such idiotic straw man again!!!

hahn:


Bar man, abottle of pure water for that tall dude.

Him don try

Lol... the thread has been treated and finished. . . My illness is even holding me down now..

Anyway it has been served. . am done with it... let me go take my medications..

Johnydon22: Signing out..

johnydon22:


Lol... the thread has been treated and finished. . . My illness is even holding me down now..

Anyway it has been served. . am done with it... let me go take my medications..

Johnydon22: Signing out..

Richirich713:


Didn't u tell me:

"Law of energy conservation states: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed..

In other words the interacting elements gravity/matter also was. . . therefore needs no creator"


Sure seems like u trying to use science laws to support ur atheist views.

Then tried to used the same law to to support ur view that energy was eternal to avoid having to say wat most atheists say, namely "nothing created the universe "

Yet nw u say u don't know how the universe came into existence.

hahn:

Bar man, abottle of pure water for that tall dude.
Him don try

Richirich713:


Didn't u tell me:

"Law of energy conservation states: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed..
In other words the interacting elements gravity/matter also was. . . therefore needs no creator"

Sure seems like u trying to science laws to support ur atheist views.

Then tried to used the same law to to support ur view that energy was eternal to avoid having to say wat most atheists say, namely "nothing created the universe "
Yet nw u say u don't know how the universe came into existence.

Jeromejnr:


I tire for the guy o.

He is never straight forward.

That was why I had to stop because it was getting no where.

Richirich713:


Didn't u tell me:

"Law of energy conservation states: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed..

In other words the interacting elements gravity/matter also was. . . therefore needs no creator"


Sure seems like u trying to use science laws to support ur atheist views.

Then tried to used the same law to to support ur view that energy was eternal to avoid having to say wat most atheists say, namely "nothing created the universe "

Yet nw u say u don't know how the universe came into existence.

Richirich713:


Yes I agree he is never direct about his views(since he doesn't like the word belief).

He doesn't state clearly what his views are on the origin of the universe.

Shollyps:
pure water for bar?no jor
bar man!!!two bottles of ORIJIN for johnnydon22

Richirich713:

Richirich713:


Didn't u tell me:

"Law of energy conservation states: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed..

In other words the interacting elements gravity/matter also was. . . therefore needs no creator"


Sure seems like u trying to use science laws to support ur atheist views.

Then tried to used the same law to to support ur view that energy was eternal to avoid having to say wat most atheists say, namely "nothing created the universe "

Yet nw u say u don't know how the universe came into existence.

Jeromejnr:


I tire for the guy o.

He is never straight forward.

That was why I had to stop because it was getting no where.

frank317:


U are even the worst. What's really blocking ur ears? I have read more than ten occasions in this thread where Johnny has clearly defined his position on scientific theories yet u keep on saying the same thing. I have never seen a dumb person like u in my life. Even my 5 years old niece cant be like this.
Pls go read the bible and dash ur ten percent income to a man who claims to be a man if God. That's the only thing ur dumb brain can understand.

dalaman:
@ jeromejnr

We agree that the scientific postulations are wrong. Please can you explain explain the process and mechanism through which your God spoke light into existence using the Hebrew language?

Jeromejnr:


First of all, who told you God spoke Hebrew?

Jeromejnr:
Dedicated to Chizzled06, Ifeness, Menesheh, and the fellow deluded lots.

dalaman:


The Hebrews wrote the creation story that you were indoctrinated with and made to accept. If he didn't speak Hebrew then tell us what language and mechanism he used to speak light into existence.

ifeness:


Coming from a self acclaimed,voluntary slave to Jesus. I hope you get better grandpa.

Jeromejnr:


Well, everything has a particular frequency it operates in, light has a particular frequency and so does sound vary in frequencies.

I expect since He is Omnipotent and He wanted something, He would speak in that particular frequency for it to be birthed. The language is unknown for now the same way among many scientists the cause of the Big Bang is unknown.

We don't follow God because of the mechanism He used in creating light, we follow Him because we have encountered Him.

Jeromejnr:


Coming from someone who created our air with his mind.

Jeromejnr:


You dare to quote me?

Don't even start with me. I thought you guys were intelligent not knowing it was all assumptions.

You read where he defined his position on scientific theories but yet he uses it to spite theists and call them deluded with no absolute proof to back his claims.

So you guys are now somehow running away from science and saying atheism has nothing to do with it. You need therapy, straightjacket and strong medication.

johnydon22:

Actually your confusion is of your own making. . . If you followed this thread you would have seen scientific theory asserts the universe began from an infinite point (Singularity) which is energy ...

Confused....? You are on your own in that...



Which in every sense proves that energy transcends from one form to another, some in greater quantum value and some in less but never annihilated as the first law assert..

Energy can never be created nor destroyed but changes from one state to another..

Your confusion remains yours...

johnydon22:

Actually your confusion is of your own making. . . If you followed this thread you would have seen scientific theory asserts the universe began from an infinite point (Singularity) which is energy ...

Confused....? You are on your own in that...



Which in every sense proves that energy transcends from one form to another, some in greater quantum value and some in less but never annihilated as the first law assert..

Energy can never be created nor destroyed but changes from one state to another..

Your confusion remains yours...

malvisguy212:
Genesis 1:1, "In the beginning
(time), God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter)."