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Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 5:39pm On Sep 27, 2015
Rilwon:
Make you just dash me '5ft join my 5'9ft. grin
That will be 10'9ft... you smoke!!! cheesy
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 5:34pm On Sep 27, 2015
Rilwon:
So in case one of your smart intelligent kid at the age of 6 - ask you about how life came into existence, what would be your response?
I would tell him that man is still learning, scrutinizing and studying to find out and with time maybe he will be among the team that will finally perfect that scientific study....


Which is the truth, i'd neither assume up an answer or feed him with ancient superstitions of primitive men who never knew what a galaxy is..

If by then man has finally proven and discerned this information, i will be sure to relay it to them too.

So lets simply tells the kids the truth and not superstition ..smiley


How do you intend to show them how the world is? For example if happened to ask you how this world came to be.
[b]How this world came to be.. Lol..Planetary formations are common scientific knowledge ..

I will take my time to explain to them planetary formations, actions of gravity and matter, because that is how every planet formed....

about showing them the world..i also answered that here...

Teach the young ones the very essence of goodness which stems from being good because they want to be good.

Because it is good to be good, show them goodness and kindness.
Teach the young ones to be nice to people because it is good to be nice to
others.

Hypatia of Alexandria said "To teach superstition as truth is horrifying, the
mind of a child accepts them and only through great pain or perhaps tragedy
will they be freed of it.

To my young ones i am strong in my conviction that i will never teach them
to fear anything, they will never grow up with fear of anything.
Not the fear of me, not the fear of any deity or the fear of a mythical burning
furnace.
I can only teach them to always think but will never force or impose on them
what i want them to think, they are the ones to decide and make their
choices when they are old enough.

I intend to raise them to "Be Good for goodness sake" i intend to teach
them to place humans first before ideas.

To look on the scientific method and consistent logic in other to make sense
of the world.…

I intend to show them that only their actions towards others is what makes
them either good or bad and nothing else.

I intend to show them that their nature as humans is not fallen, broken or
sinful but very beautiful, intelligent and strong.

And i will never teach them myths as truth or fables as truths But rather i
will teach them myth as myth and fables as fables and reality as reality.
The young minds know nothing like hatred, intolerance, racism, sexism,
indoctrination, bigotry, homophobia, prejudice, misogyny.

They do not yet understand things like Love, tolerance, joy, compassion,
acceptance, human decency, empathy, integrity, beauty and truth.
nor disturbing emotions like fear, greed and jealousy.

For the first and most important formative years of their lives they will
only know what you teach them.
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lol. Its all right. I don't like this arguement of whether God exist or not. The world would be boring without people like you..lol. I'll let it slide.
Am sure you know me quite well when it comes to such arguments. . . smiley
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 4:58pm On Sep 27, 2015
Rilwon:
Hmmmmmm! cheesy cheesy Na you dey enjoy nah.. 6.9inches dayummmn! I wan tall like you o grin grin LWTMB

Lmao.. 6'9ft no be beans oo. . . even though am the tallest guy in my area..

one of my teammate is taller than i am....
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 4:54pm On Sep 27, 2015
Rilwon:
Well, they will decide for themselves. You can't possibly decide for them. If they choosed not to be an atheist rather they prefer to accept Islam, you can't stop them.
I answered this here on one of my threads.

I know some might be asking will your children be atheists too?
The answer is "NO" I am an agnostic atheist and i will neither raise my kids
as ATHEISTS or theists because that will also be indoctrination of the young
minds into my own ideology.

No i will let their mind be free and for them to decide what they believe or
what they don't when they are grown enough to do that . .
I cannot decide for my Children, i will simply show them the world as it is
and their decisions should run their lives not mine....
https://www.nairaland.com/2621170/threatening-children-hell


That you think that your intelligence makes you feel that their is no God doesn't make it true, does it?
Nope not at all, i don't consider myself intelligent to be sincere and so it has no weight on my atheistic stance.

There is nothing compelling that suggests that belief in a God is not anymore than just wishful thinking..

You and i have never argued or are we ever going to argue the existence of the sun neither do you tell me to read the quran to see the sun exists.

No the sun is evidently existential and so both of us KNOW it exists none of us need believe it by FAITH.. we are simply sure.

Now relate that to the existence of Gods..smiley



I only know one person outside nairaland. And its even on fb, not in real life. So I was thinking maybe every other person is in my shoe. Sorry, my bad!


Chai...sorry..wrong person grin
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 4:38pm On Sep 27, 2015
Rilwon:
Wowwwwwww! I love that bolded part.. smiley wink
You no trust me again?

I get eyes na..... but seriously she's just like a female version of me wink . . I have found my eve ooo cheesy
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 4:32pm On Sep 27, 2015
Rilwon:
How about that girl on your profile pix sometimes ago? I don't know frecocoa BTW, watsupp about her?
Uuuuhnm... leave that one first grin


True that bruh! Intelligent people will surely produce intelligent kids.
Seriously don't want my children to think tragedies are as a result of belief, that's horrible

You don't know her outside NL, do you? - Yet you think she's your ideal woman.. Ol boy!
If i didn't know her outside NL you think i would say she is angry
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 4:28pm On Sep 27, 2015
freecocoa:
Johnny, I see you.wink
!
@Rilwon here she comes. . .here is my baby. .

She's an atheist just like me, a sweetheart outside Nairaland and an outstanding girl in terms of beauty and intellect..

She tops my list of prospective wife of johnydon22...
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 4:23pm On Sep 27, 2015
truthman2012:
I said God is not in a place where there is stampede and you said you agreed. Why did you agree as an atheist? Do you now believe there is God? This is a display of hypocrisy at its highest. In fact you do not even know your own self.
Hahahahahaha now i understand your problem. . You can't read. .

Sir you have disgraced yourself enough for one day, i am trying to save you the embarrassment but you keep embarrassing yourself...

here is my reply..

Agreed.[size=20]
It has to be existential in the first place before being able to be anyway..[/size]
So you don't know the meaning of the words in bold.. never knew you can't even read either..

this is serious...
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 4:08pm On Sep 27, 2015
Rilwon:
Loooooooool! BTW, I'm getting married to his daughter grin grin

lmao grin. . for me..

. . .am so gonna get married to freecocoa for real... wink My children gat to be intelligent..... She's just my kindof ideal woman!!!

But seriously i wonder what truthman2012 teach his kids...
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 3:53pm On Sep 27, 2015
truthman2012:
The mental state of your dad might not be capable of doing what am doing here. Poor him!!!
[b]Exactly, i so much agree that your mental state and that of my dad is not the same. . You are so correct sir that i had to share that post wink

His mental state is quite so sound that he concerns himself with what every mature man would and ... He is a boss ..He is a father and he acts like itwink

Unlike you whose mental state is so out of line that you come to NL and start exchanging words with young boys. . .Don't you have shame?

Just imagine what someone who is a full grown man is laying out in public.... Sir please why not respect yourself and your old age and act mature for once..

Who ever sees your activities here knows exactly who has a mental laps or is suffering from chronic psychosis..

Why not leave this degrading actions of yours and go spend some time with the children since you have time to spare that you come to NL and starting exchanging words with young men.

The little kids need you more and your wife too...please my warm love and regards to them, hope they are good.
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Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m):
truthman2012:
You are surely out of you mind. Go and rest your brain as you are not making any sense.

I maintain Catholicism is not Christianity as there is no example of worshiping the image of Mary in the bible. Is that what freaked you out? Or are you freaked out because I debunked your 6million people claim?
Pa am begging you stop doing this to yourself in public. . .You really don't know the meaning of "Debunk"

You neither falsified nor denied the fact that 6million catholics gathered for a pope's mass in Manila, you only said catholics are not Christians. .

Please check the meaning of "Debunk" in a dictionary again you need it...



Such stampede could only occur where people worship idols. I have been in a Christian congregation where a very large crowd were in attendance. When we were called to the altar for a spiritual excercise, the crowd was so much that my legs were hanging amidst other people's, I mean my legs couldn't touch the ground, yet I was carrying a baby in my hands. There was no single case of anyone trampled to death.
You were in a gathering of a few thousand people and there was no stampede, that is nice.

The pope held a mass of 6million attenders and there was no stampede even though you also claim catholics are idol worshippers and so are prone to stampede.

But that 6million crowd was managed swimmingly and there was not one single death or injury. . This shows proper management and space is needed for a successful occasion..

Tragedies has nothing to do with belief or religion. . Tragedies befall people of every faith and non faith alike.

Stampedes happen both in church and mosque even stadiums or any large societal gathering

. . .At your age you still possess a childish mindset that tragedies are as a result of belief, i marvel at the type of things you would be teaching the young ones you have at home..

Please stop banking on the tragedies of others to insinuate religious supremacy, it is disturbing as well as evil...


God is not in a place where people are stampeded to death.
Agreed.

It has to be existential in the first place before being able to be anyway..
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 3:23pm On Sep 27, 2015
truthman2012:
My health? Thank you. If you live up to my years you are 'lucky', as it were, as you don't believe in being blessed.
[b]Hhmmm i take it you are my Dad's age then, but then i don't see my Dad on the internet exchanging words with Children.…

My elder brother who is a married man comes here to NL to read news and topics, i don't see him quarrelling with children over belief and doctrines... And you are proud of your Childish actions?

If you are up to the age you place yourself then it has been confirmed here that Age is not synonymous to knowledge.

Because frankly anyone who reads your posts will always see a touch of childishness and outright ignorance.

A man your age is still here dragging and exchanging words with Children over bible and quran and you dare speak about age here.

If you are really up to the age you claim here then your activities here on NL is quite shameful and demeaning...

I am a very young man in my early twenties, if you are half as old as you claim here. . .Then everyone who reads this can surely see that the young can teach the old and give them proper schooling when the old ones start acting like kids.

Anyway am sure you have learnt a very vital lesson today..
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Christianity Etc › Re: Feeding Of The 5000, Did It Actually Happened? by johnydon22(m): 2:58pm On Sep 27, 2015
Teempakguy:
Why is it difficult for you to believe that the earth was created by natural means, but is easy to believe that God came out of nothing?

The formation of the sun is very well known. In fact by 2025, we will finish completing our own mini-sun on earth.

The formation of the earth is also well known. It is a form of fractional distillation. In fact, unlike what genesis 1 claims, when earth was newly formed, it had no water at all. It was a completely dry ball. water . . . arrived later.

The life forms you see now, developed over billions of years.

It's all really easy to explain with science. And because of this, we have started replicating these phenomena.

What will you people then say when we recreate everything God is said to have created. huh

Don't forget according to the bible, earth was created on the first day along with day and night..

And then the sun (Parent star of earth and cause of day and night) was created on the fourth day..

How can day and night be before the sun exactly. . .shows you whoever wrote this knows nothing about the solar system at all...

Absolutely nothing, that person wrote from an understanding view point of a primitive man who had no telescope or knew the sun and other stars was actually too big for the earth..

And 21st century modern beings who know that the sun is the cause of day and night, the planets and stars form as a result of the action of gravity on matter..

are abandoning this verified knowledge in order to hold still to some ridiculous postulations of ancient men that goes contrary to what is..

This again is how "Faith" is both a dangerous and dishonest thing to possess..
Christianity Etc › Re: Feeding Of The 5000, Did It Actually Happened? by johnydon22(m): 2:34pm On Sep 27, 2015
mcfynest:
Am a christian sis. Atheist believe that God (a supreme being) exist. Anyone who claims to be an atheist but doesnt do believe in that is a leaner.... I have been there...
Now rush and take your medicine, looks like you skipped it..
Christianity Etc › Re: Feeding Of The 5000, Did It Actually Happened? by johnydon22(m): 2:32pm On Sep 27, 2015
mcfynest:
You no go churchhuh
To do what?
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 2:31pm On Sep 27, 2015
Rilwon:
Don't allow that to get on your nerve. Truly, things like this frustrate my person too, hence the reason why I dont consider myself to be a member of a particular sect of Islam.
I am proudly agnostic atheist and everyone on this forum is well aware i refute both islamic and Christian ideolgies, you yourself can atest to that.

The only thing that freaks me out about the guy is discriminating against other christian sects (i have no problem with that) but this thread was even an attack against muslims, why jump into attacking other christians?

I am allergic to such hypocrisy and outstanding idiocy..
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 2:27pm On Sep 27, 2015
truthman2012:
Honestly, you are in need of serious help. What did you learn in your Seminary if you call judgemental for condemning idol worship?
What i call judgemental is calling other christian sects to be non-christians because their doctrine do not relate to yours.. what i call blatant hypocrisy is not seeing the problem in your religion or sect and attacking the problems in others, what i call discriminating is excluding other christians from Christiandom and what i call utter dumbness is this Childish and utterly disappointing posts that betrays a very low mentally stabe human..

Catholics don't deify mary anymore than you deify your pastors or even the bible itself. . .


I think it is no more worth it talking to you further. Your knowledge of the bible has been turned upside down by the Devil, who you might not even believe exists.


Am happy my knowledge of biblical texts has been used to teach you a little lesson today. . .at least am sure next time you won't go about saying "Jews didn't eat sacrificed animals"

And aaah yes the devil part, that guy doesn't exist. . he only exists in your head where he pulls out imaginary temptation stunts. . .Free your mind from acknowledging abstract concepts..

Now calm down and try gather your wits. . these type of frustration and confusion is not good for your health..
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 2:06pm On Sep 27, 2015
truthman2012:
Why being angry?
My post was very simple and anybody that reads will know i don't sound angry at all.

Am only amazed and wowed at just how hypocritic and dumb someone can get.....its simply unmatched.


As an atheist who once studied the bible, you have lost your sense of discernment. You don't know .
ho a Christian is anymore.
A congregation of people who.
worship the image of Mary is to you a Christian congregation
Take this up with your fellow Christians like Italo and others...

You are only deluding yourself by tagging anybody that don't subscribe to your doctrins a non-Christian. . You are very much like a pharisee..


. No wonder you are no more a Christian.
Your likes makes many christians here ashamed...if what it takes to be Christian is to be judgemental, hypocritic, discriminative and most of all as dumb as you are. . .Then your version of Christianity can never be for someone like myself..

You see why i say you are frustrated and have lost your wits.

1st you attacked the muslims for eating sacrificed animals saying jews didn't eat it but you realized you were mistaken that jews actually ate sacrificed animals.

2nd now you have resorted to attacking other christian sects. . If you are not confused, i wonder what else you migbt be
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 1:44pm On Sep 27, 2015
Rilwon:
To him, catholics are not christians. You dig?


He is no more a christian than any catholic out there. . In fact catholics make up 68% of christiandom.

There are 40,000 christian sects in this world, i believe according to him all the other 39,999 sects are not Christians only his own sect are christians.

Such discriminating and divisive mindset is idiotic and ludicrous. . .Same person accuse others of attacking his religion when he is the one discriminating against other members of his religion, talking down on them and attacking his religion..

That type of nonsensical hypocrisy is beginning to get on my nerve in thus thread
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 1:31pm On Sep 27, 2015
truthman2012:
Do you call the pope a Christian?
Is Catholicism Christianity?
Is such Mass a command from Jesus?
Oh my goodness...i give up... now see it seems you have a problem upstairs..

The guy asked if there ever have been a christian gathering where millions of people were managed perfectly.

And i gave him an example of 6million people were managed without a hitch and there was no stampede...

Now you start finding issues where there is none....Think you are beginning to sound frustrated.

Now attacking other Christian denominations saying they are not christians, you need to slow down and gather your wits cus seems you lost it.

You accuse atheists of attacking Christianity but in the real sense you are the one doing that. . You even discriminate against your fellow christians and you prize yourself a good person?

Your hypocrisy is stupendous
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 1:20pm On Sep 27, 2015
Nadheer15:
Tell me a Christian gathering of over 3 million in which the crowd are managed perfectly? undecided
Actually there have been many of such gatherings..

6million people attended a Mass by pope Francis is Philippines and this is double of the figure of saudi gathering http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30869019
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 1:13pm On Sep 27, 2015
malvisguy212:
keep on fighting for the devil,or do you want to renounced your atheism and follow christ ? The door is still open.
Fighting? Calling a myth a myth is not fighting...

and your devil is a myth too, why not complain that Johnydon22 says it is a myth so it come after me..wink

Here we go
[size=20] He only loves the sweet smell of burnt animals[/size]
Just take all the time you need in thinking about that. . . You will thank me later wink

By the way the smell of burning flesh is not sweet... lipsrsealed
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 12:33pm On Sep 27, 2015
Demmzy15:
Why you dey vex, face them. You've gotten what you're looking for. Coward!
truthman2012:
Yes, I have got what I want. The Devil is pained. I wouldn't have responded to you but because you feel the opposition is a cane, not knowing the Devil is hit where it pains.


You guys got it all wrong. . It wasn't an attack on any religion or opposition of any doctrine..
[size=16]
I only wanted to show Truthman that in Judaism sacrifices are also eaten unlike what he thought they weren't eaten..[/size]

I think am sure he already learnt that...
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 12:28pm On Sep 27, 2015
malvisguy212:
listen my friend, the sacrifice of a righteous man is like a fragrance incense to God , True prayer is fragrant to God. This was taught in the Old Testament, in one of those emblem-lessons which, when
read in the light of the gospel, mean so much the bible say in 2 Corinthians chapter two:
2 Corinthians 2:15
For we are to God the pleasing aroma of
Christ among those who are being saved and those who are perishing.

Christ’s offering is fragrant and acceptable to God. We see this in at
least two places in the New Testament.
Ephesians 5:2. Walk in love, as Christ
loved us and gave himself for us, a
fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. In
Exodus, “fragrant” always described the
incense. Here, we have evidence of
Christ’s offering on the golden altar and
the sacrifice on the bronze altar. Hebrews 5:7. In the days of his flesh,
Jesus offered up prayers and
supplications, with loud cries and tears,
to him who was able to save him from
death, and he was heard because of his
reverence.
So you should focus on finding evidence for Gof existence rather that displaying your foolishness on christian thread.


Hahahahaha i just irked some nerve... Oopps... here


[size=20] He only loves the sweet smell of burnt animals [/size]

Just take all the time you need kind sir.... smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Saudi Arabia Blames Africans For Hajj Stampede by johnydon22(m): 11:48am On Sep 27, 2015
hahn:
What if it is the truth?

undecided

There are up to 3million pilgrims in that place, blaming that stampede on one set of people is improbable and outrightly nonsensical
Christianity Etc › Re: Saudi Arabia Blames Africans For Hajj Stampede by johnydon22(m):
Crispels:
Cc : Lalasticlala Seun Johnnydon20 Meneseh and all patriotic Africans.
[b]
An African adage said "He who doesn't know where the rain started beating him will never know where it stopped beating him"

Africa lost her rich cultural heritage when she adopted the cultures and religions of others and threw hers to the thrash.

Why should we swallow the religions of others and let ours die off, why should an African think his salvation is on another man's land and not in Africa.

It was a cultural and religious holocaust, they murdered and raped our religion mostly with the threat of violence and death and then they made us abandon our ways in order to ensure continuity of theirs.

Fela Kuti who attained great educational heights came home and sang..
"Me i no gree to copy oyibo style"

He continued "If you go to China, korea, italy, na them culture for there be their teacher"

Only few chinese are Christians or Muslims others practise chinese traditional religion and mostly buddism but China is one of the leading titans in today's world.

We lost our roots and our ways, now we are lost in the vacuum and darkness of the people we adopted theirs.

Now they treat us as second class believers to the same Myth they made us believe, they see us a little unworthy of their belief and frankly they are correct because we shouldn't have left our own Religion and culture to adopt another man's religion.

Ever wondered a black man never been a pope before ..

Islam has shown to be racist and look down on African muslims who even here in NL literally worship and revere these Muslim countries.

They fight with all ferocity when ever you speak against saudi but the same saudi don't give a hoot about them..

Since they think it ok to think their salvation is in another man's land, culture or religion, what ever treatment they get from it is their own doing..
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Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 10:13am On Sep 27, 2015
hahn:
Exactly. But the society shapes the mind puts these people in power.

We just happen to find ourselves in a confusing society
Changing things is always a gradual process.

We can only help here in what ever little way by inciting independent reason int young minds that are mostly being destroyed in intellect by the cruelty of our nonsensical superstitious society..
Islam › Re: Muslims: When Abraham Killed The Ram, Did He Eat It? by johnydon22(m): 10:11am On Sep 27, 2015
dalaman:
How will he want to learn when he wanted to use it to mock the muslims without knowing that the people in the bible did same. He must be hiding in shame by now. He wants to use the bible to mock others withut knowing that the people in the bible did they same grin grin
[b]He didn't know much about the old testament cus if he did he wouldn't have opened this thread.

If Muslim Allah is the one that loves smell of burnt animal, truthman will be the first to tell muslim how wrong it is and how absurd it was for a supreme deity who created the universe to be loving the smell of burnt flesh.

But that is one thing with religion, blind hypocrisy. .he won't for one minute apply the same logic and reason he applies to other religion to his because he knows if he did he would find his religion and God concept is as ridiculous as that of other religions.

Everybody pays a blind eye to the absurdities in their religions and point out the absurdities in others.
Jesus likened this to leaving the wood in ones eye to take out a speck of dust in anothers.

A muslim will never see the nonsensical wacky practises and outright lies and implausible attributes of his God but his eyes is open to see these in the Christian God concept same way goes to Christians..

Atheists are just there to tell them both: "Both of you are practising bullshiiiit..."
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