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Christianity Etc › Re: On What Part Of The Earth Is "Garden Of Eden" ? by johnydon22(m): 8:47am On Aug 30, 2015

Need i first tell you that the Genesis creation myth and many other Early genesis works are reworked jewish version of an older myths which is the Babylonian Enuma elish which in turn is the product of an older Myth, the Sumerian texts.

According to the Sumerian Cunei form text written thousands of years before the bible or Quran. . The God's created man and put him in Eden and Eden in Sumeria means "Flat terrain"

Modern archeological scholarly puts Eden in the site of ancient Sumeria which is Iraqi today, but don't expect an ever green garden like many of the myths painted, it's actually a desertic land of which the Sumerians Artificially irrigated after they invented wheels (water wheels). .The name "Eden" stems from the fact that the terrain is flat...It's has ancient Sumerian Origin

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Christianity Etc › Re: God Has No Religion. True Or False? by johnydon22(m): 8:29am On Aug 30, 2015*

[b]Apparently God is a christian because according to christian he is sadistic enough to roast every other people who do not believe as they do in a literal fire... and still within them they still think other denominations are going to hell... He also had a son with a human woman

Or wait God is a muslim because according to muslims to God is another barbaric pim_p who will organize ®rgy in heaven by handing them 72 virgins and roasting other people who are not muslims or who do not believe as they do in a literal fire.

Or Hhmmm i think God is a Hindu, Brahma is the creator of the universe and according to Hindus Christians and Muslims are wrong!!! Totally!!!

Ok ok lets not forget, God is a judaic man, they gave even in the christian old testament which happens to be the Scripture of judaism that christianity borrowed, God chooses Isreal more than other people on earth, takes their sides in battles and even helps them in battles (Hmmmm so God practises idiotic favouritsm.) and this God needs sacrifices, the smell of burning animals is very pleasant to it, imagine the barbarism... And according to them Christianity and Islam and Hinduism are deceiving themselves, God is a Judaic thing and has a special land, Jerusalem.

**No wonder christianity had to add burning something to their theology but this time instead of animals God now will be roasting billions of humans in a hell because he like the smell of burning flesh**

But there are more of it, God might actually be a yoruba, maybe Eledumare Hhmmm and this one started the human race in ile ife and a special Oduduwa to start a special yoruba race.

Or wait wait wait maybe God is igbo after all. Chukwu started life in Nsude and the first man chukwu created was in nsude. .Eri who is the forebears of the igbo race first before other race. . Hhmmm

Or maybe just maybe God is a Greek,the rocking swagger Zeus who can zap any idiot with thunder, Had a son with a human woman (Story of jesus also comes to mind) his name is Heracles or popularly called Hercules and would confine humans to an idiotic and stupendous equally barbaric underworld called tartarus.

And there are another 2900 concepts of GOD i have not mentioned yet . . Hiaaaan that's a lot.

And each is bathed in the cultural decorum of the people where it is found. . This is enough to show that all these God concepts are Cultural constructs of men trying to make sense of the world.. .. I'd let you be the judge of that[/b]

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Unheard Story Of David And Goliath by johnydon22(m): 9:46pm On Aug 29, 2015*

Goliath 6'9??

Bro am 6'9 and am no giant!!!

But really anyone who thinks about it will see the Goliath really didn't stand a chance..
It's like me going to engage tripple H wielding a pistol why the nigga is a clutching a sword. .People will still think am outmatched...But we all know who's gonna get smoked

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Science/Technology › Re: Nasa Starts Year-long Isolation To Simulate Life On Mars by johnydon22(m): 9:26pm On Aug 29, 2015

Am loving this, its breathe taking to think that with each passing day, man takes more bold step that gets him closer and closer and closer to the red planet. .

One cannot help but simply love #Science... I am hopeful that in a short while we will see humans on mars too and then we will fully find out what exactly that planet is all about..

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Science/Technology › Re: Nasa Starts Year-long Isolation To Simulate Life On Mars by johnydon22(m): 9:22pm On Aug 29, 2015

kelechiug:
yeah, read this on the guardian today, but if they sey make i do this one by force, i must sneak my phone inside cuz i must surf net no matter what

You will have fully operational systems inside the dome. . so you have no problem..

Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Noisy Churches Shut Down In Lagos State by johnydon22(m): 9:10pm On Aug 29, 2015

Amusaopeyemi:
Signature sorry.
Btw i'm an atheist.

Lmao. . i knew you were referring to my signature. . I am an atheist too tho...

Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Noisy Churches Shut Down In Lagos State by johnydon22(m): 8:51pm On Aug 29, 2015

Amusaopeyemi:
Hi. I love your bio.

...Lol..

Christianity Etc › Re: The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ by johnydon22(m): 8:34pm On Aug 29, 2015

fantasticshaw:
is biology now a creation of man or the hair on your head not a fiber ?

Pheeew and someone cannot simply recall that Hair follicle is in charge of hair formation in a body. . This are just simple Biology that an SS1 student shouldn't wince before answering...

And please that you or anybody lacks knowledge of how a phenomenon works is not a reason to pull out any idiotic and absurd explanation, rather it is a call for study and research.

Leaving it to people like you, man still would have been thinking that The God Neptune is the cause of winds at sea

The one who made these things is greater than you. The earth is spherical that's true. I guess you are thinking and assuming God to be 7ft tall. Lol. Have you not heard or read that the earth is like a drop of water in His hands. In another place it also says the earth is his footstool. Tell me how big is a drop of water in your own hands and how big is a footstool to you. No wonder the bible says the wisdom (reason) of man is foolishness before God. Respect and fear God bro.

Pouring more myths upon us, Forgot to add he will be coming on a horse too..

If this is the type of ludicrous gullibility you would have us join you in, i say again..

"No thanks, enjoy!!!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Hope, Faith And Love: What Do These Mean To An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 8:25pm On Aug 29, 2015*

[b][size=16]Faith:[/size]
Faith according to the dictionary is (Religious)"A feeling or conviction that something is true without empirical evidence.
(**I know there's another way it is used in English linguistic but i take it you are meaning it in a religious sense**)

So according to religions "It is the evidence of things unseen and things hoped for"

which obviously is synonymous to the dictionary definition because it about believing something without evidence and then ludicrously terming your act of believing that thing the evidence for that thing, But sadly believing something doesn't make it true... So having "faith" (belief) in a thing is not evidence of it but simply means you believe it whether it is true or not..

So to me "FAITH" is a dishonest position because it entails a strong emotion of stoic conviction, asserted without reason and defended against reason. .If one really need to believe something by FAITH and not empirical evidence then there is really no reason to believe it at all.

[size=16]Hope:[/size]
Hope in a very little way works like faith but is totally different from faith because hope is not a conviction or an alleged truth..

Rather hope is the position of having an expectation or feeling for something that MAY OR MAY NOT BE, to be..

[size=16]Love:[/size]
A sincere feeling of attachment, affection and care towards a thing or someone.

This emotion deals with a profound sense of likeness and this emotion is not obedient conformity, submission, wrath or judgemental.

But is respect, kindness, compassion, admiration, acceptance and care…

This to me is the healthiest emotion to possess and is meant to be exhibited towards everything and everyone around you, unbound by enmity or differences[/b]

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 7:50pm On Aug 29, 2015

Reyginus:
What do you mean by 'just like a human'?. One can say they all are energy and thus like humans. So tell me what you mean by that line?

More unnecessary semantics, i actually use "Just like human" so as not to confuse you again... So politics is energy too!! another one!

Ok let me rephrase it "In the biological sense" presence of biological metabolisms .

Christianity Etc › Re: The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ by johnydon22(m): 7:41pm On Aug 29, 2015

fantasticshaw:
The Lord said it, so it will be done. Let no one judge the Lord by his/her feeble sense or by logic and human reasoning.

And as expected you are advising us to forgo reason that which makes us human and literally become simpletons who accept what ever absurd nonsense you come up with that defiles simple reason or intuition.... No wonder!!! You are really showing us outstanding intelligence..

Tell me by logic how bone forms in the womb,

Argumentum ad ignorantum . .arguing on the basis of your ignorance. .Because you lack knowledge then it is ok to assume any stupendous explanation instead of learning what actually happened...

Bone formation process is Known as Ossification, you could have simply google searched and learnt how it happens. .here let me help http://www.britannica.com/science/bone-formation . . In this age of information, Ignorance is a choice..

how fiber grows from the human body

Lmao fibres are introduced to the body in foods and not an innate component of the human anatomy. . Please stop using your ignorance of a thing as a point in an argument, it only disgraces you..

But if you are referring to muscular fibres then it is a simple process known as Myogenesis

or how a flowing sea could stand still ( division of the Red Sea).

So we are to believe your myths now? Actually if you are referring to earth's ocean tides (not your myth of sea dividing) ocean tides are as a result of moon's gravitational effect on earth..

All eyes will see him period !

It's impossible. . The earth is spherical ..

If this is the type of simpletoness you would like us to join you in by exhibiting this type of stupendous gullibility and lack of basic reason
.. "Uuuhm No thanks, enjoy!!! "

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Science/Technology › Re: Is There Life On Mars? Bizarre Photos Of 'iguanas, Mermaids And Spaceships' by johnydon22(m): 7:10pm On Aug 29, 2015

Only the pyramid photo raises a little dust .. scientifically it has been assumed or speculated that Mars MAY harbour life down beneath it's dark deep craters... and some few ancient texts has suggested humans migrated from Mars ...(doubt that crap tho)

But there are two possibilities here.

[size=16]It is either we are alone in the universe or we are not (and are just one out of countless others) [/size]

the former is almost impossible..

[size=16] And both are equally scary [/size]

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 6:01pm On Aug 29, 2015*

Reyginus:
In a tight corner! I will advise you pay more attention.

Let me help you here. A dead human body exist. So a corpse exists.

Now answer me, is a corpse, that is, a dead human body, alive in the same way as a living human body?

You may skip this one. But then what do you consider, in this argument, to be alive?

Now you have arrived . . this is what i have been telling you but you kept wriggling in uncalled semantics. .i have never said a dead body is alive, i used your naive analogy of existence being synonymous to being alive against you. . Hope you have now seen the flaw in that.

I asked you out of three things i listed out which one is alive 1)stone 2)euglena 3) politics . . .instead of simply pointing out that which is alive in the biological sense you employed semantics and dubbed them all alive..

You are the one who asserted that being alive means to exist... and i have shown you using the corpse analogy that existing is not same thing as being alive...

Now that i have used the Dead man analogy to show you what i mean by being alive. . Alive i mean is to exhibit biological metabolisms. .

I repeat my question again..

1)A stone
2)euglena viridis
3)politics . .
which of these is alive just like a human (so you won't get confused again)

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 5:43pm On Aug 29, 2015

Reyginus:
Alive in what sense?

lmao. . Calm down and see how you have placed yourself in a tight corner .
..You said

Reyginus:
Lololol. We will moving in circles now except you show your way, the way. The state of being alive is simply to exist. That is being a being.

Now a corpse exists, so going by your analogy that life simply means to exist..

Is a corpse alive?

Christianity Etc › Re: Diary Of A Jehovah's Witness by johnydon22(m): 5:36pm On Aug 29, 2015

MzNelly:
No, atheists do believe in God.
They're obsessed with him and it's apparent in their tone, the hatred they feel for a seemingly non-existent Being.

I think you need to get your head straight a bit. . No atheist believes or hates any deity. . What atheist argue against is the propagation of myth as truth and the psychological abuse being laid on the world by religions using their God concept. . That someone discusses Gandalf doesn't mean he exists or i may say that because you are a christian you hate the muslim God, so get your facts straight and stop making untrue daft assertions.

The only reason they delude themselves, claiming he doesn't exist is as a result of the high rate of injustice in the world today. I think we can all relate.

No we are trying to subject your beliefs to scrutiny so as you rid you of your delusion by triggering independent reason in you as a human..

When people sell ancient mythologies as truth in public, they should expect to be challenged, refuted and that stupendous mythology criticized. . . I only wonder how your brain works when you can't discern discussing a concept doesn't entail acknowledging that concept exists as an entity..

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Sonoflucifer? by johnydon22(m): 4:45pm On Aug 29, 2015

musKeeto:
Ah.. That retard. Is he still alive?
I remember getting on your nerves one. Forgive me, it was all an act. Apparently, it worked.

Lol...didn't get on my nerves ...

Mana the semantics was out of the line shaaa ... Frankmishael1 is my example of how religion can make someone a retard

Science/Technology › Re: Exploring The Universe: Seeing The Nebulas by johnydon22(op): 4:05pm On Aug 29, 2015

Ok guys am back after serving my Jail duration by the spam bot. . I am free feeling like Mandela after he got out of jail... like "Freedom!! "

So moving on De Marian's Nebula or scientifically known as Messier 43. . Hhmmm this is actually one of my favourite Nebula but it's name also is easier to remember. .

so following IIaykorn's idea. . we will call this one Angel de Maria

So De maria is 1,600light years away in his soccer pitch, stadium is the Orion constellation and this multi-coloured sweetheart looks more like an Enyimba player than PSG

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Sonoflucifer? by johnydon22(m): 3:56pm On Aug 29, 2015

tartar9:
Sonoflucifer is dead and roasting with the devil in Hell frankmishael1 curse finally worked,you happy now? Hallelujah!!

Frankmishael1 is an imbecil_e.... He said that i too wouldnt live till april 1st. . that if i fail to die before april then he is not worshipping a living God...

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ by johnydon22(m): 3:07pm On Aug 29, 2015

Keepshining:
Always read your Bible you will understand better.Its beyound human reasoning.

The same thing you claim is beyond human reason is the same thing you claim he will understand by reading a book written by another human..

Since you always read your bible apparently and understand more than the Op...why not answer his question and save him the trouble

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 1:55pm On Aug 29, 2015

plaetton:
Look at Politics as an analogy.

It is a product of human interactions, but then, it controls human interactions.
Not so.

Exactly the point :

There can be life without politics, but they can never be politics without life ...

there can be life without consciousness (one can loose consciousness and still be alive) But there can never be consciousness without life.

Loosing consciousness simply is a temporal or permanent seizure of neuroreceptive activities in a biological entity

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 1:53pm On Aug 29, 2015

Reyginus:
Simple awareness. I hope you wouldn't ask what is awareness? Of course you will but still have my question in mind. You are to lead me to the answers.

No it is not. I'm just asking plaetton. I have my reasons.

Exactly, now since consciousness is simple a state of "Awareness"

We all know that awareness stems from perception and perception is a product of neuroreceptive activities going on in a biological entity.

Euglenas have photoreceptors that makes them aware of their environment... since awareness is as a result of the neuroreceptive activities going on in an entity, doesn't it in order words show that, that is consciousness..

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 1:42pm On Aug 29, 2015

Reyginus:
Lololol. We will moving in circles now except you show your way, the way. The state of being alive is simply to exist. That is being a being.

If you disagree then tell me what it really means.

We will surely arrive to a conclusion..

So a human when dead is just a corpse and a corpse is in existent because it is, and going by your analogy "LIFE simply means to exist... . So is a corpse alive?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 1:19pm On Aug 29, 2015

Reyginus:
Plaetton again! Consciousness derived from neural interactions? In essence, their will be no consciousness where there is no brain?

What is consciousness?
and is the brain the only neural receptor there is?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 1:18pm On Aug 29, 2015

Reyginus:
I'm not about the biological aspect. I think anyone can define that.

They are all alive depending on the angle you are looking at it from. A stone is composed of Silicon, Carbon, Oxygen and other chemical elements, compounds and mixtures. These chemicals are active and the electrons, protons and neutrons are participating in the cohesion. In that sense, it is alive.

Euglena is biologically active. The elements of our MR NIGER D found in it simplify this. An idea is alive in the symbolic and mental realm of things. The idea to kill a person cannot be visible but is explained in the act. They all are depending on the angle from which you huge them from.

You see this is so because you failed to define exactly what you mean by "LIFE" in order to create a premise from whence conclusions can be derived.

Because obviously looking at the three examples above, each entity or idea above operates in a different regard from the other two and so cannot be said to be within the confine of one definition..… Because by employing symbolism in order to term an idea alive, you have blatantly distinguished it from that of a biological entity..

So I repeat again..

what is the state of being alive?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 12:58pm On Aug 29, 2015

Reyginus:
I hope we don't move in circles now. A living being is a being that has life.

...lol..In other words you cannot biologically define for us what life is, anyway i get the gist so let's move on..

I will list our 3 existing things

1) A stone (inanimate entity)
2)Euglena Viridis (Biological entity)
3)Politics (A concept or an idea)

Which of this three things is alive ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 12:46pm On Aug 29, 2015

Reyginus:
In this sense, existing as a living being.

Yes i know, am asking "what living is" so we can differentiate and see the premise from whence my postulation of life being special is based..

What is living? or in order words "what is a living being?"

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 12:31pm On Aug 29, 2015

Reyginus:
Nice. Very good. Thank you. My thoughts exactly. But we may have a problem.

So, by implication, life is the most sacred thing when compared with life. Now I'm feeling uncomfortable with the result. Wouldn't that mean that life is only sacred when compared to life because with no life it is nothing?

And if that is so, how can the only sacred thing about a thing be the thing? I hope you get my point. As in, the good thing about good is that it is good. You get where I'm driving at?

I think apparently you have mistaken existence to mean life directly. . Let me even get something straight here.

"What is Life?"

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 12:20pm On Aug 29, 2015

plaetton:
The universe is the sum of its parts.
Therefore, every atom, every molecule, every conscious life adds value to the universe by participating in its evolution.

Being able to fully participate, without interruption, in the grand symphony of the universe is the Cosmic purpose that I refer to.

Simply put.

"We are all different parts of the same whole and our activities affects others"

Most people do not know that when one says "UNIVERSE". they are referring to the totality of everything in existence... from the unseen atom, grain of dust, stone, plants, humans, to planets, galaxies everything in existence in totality is the universe, but most people do not know this"

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 12:12pm On Aug 29, 2015

Reyginus:
I think life is the greatest thing in the world too. I just want to know your reasons.

Good one. A very intelligent man asked this question some time ago, on this forum, I'd like to see how you respond to it.

Is life better than no life? That is, is existence better than nonexistence? I would like you to use this illustration to answer it.

In life tasks are executed and problems are solved. Imagine there were no problems and something happens and a problem is created. A tool, a person, encounters it and tries to solve it. Imagine also there were no problems as a result of no tool, a person, in existence. Is any of the two better than the other?

For every action in physics there is a reaction. . So for the fact there are activities (life) there must be reactions therefore the activities that spring forth as a result of life is life itself.

Now without these activities, there is nothing and this position (inexistence) itself is a separate and distinct tilt to the former ..

One cannot determine that which is better, certainly not me because Existence and Inexistence are both different sides of the same coin. . They both negate each other and are dependent on each other for meaning. .

Without the idea of existence there will never be the concept of inexistence, so none is greater or better than the other.....

Now according to you why is life the most important thing ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 11:44am On Aug 29, 2015

Reyginus:
If I may ask, why Life?

Because it is more special than gold, money, belief and wealth. . If you ever value belief more than "LIFE" then one can only say pity .. The wealth of this planet is not in what we take from it but what we give it. .and that entails how we treat ourselves and other life forms

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by johnydon22(m): 8:13am On Aug 29, 2015*

KingEbukasBlog:
Can you explain the purpose of the existence of the universe ?

Ebuka this is a logical fallacy known as begging the question because by saying "Purpose" you have implied that the universe in your own sense must have a purpose therefore ensuring a fixed answer for your question.... How would you know if anything, talk more of the universe has a purpose or not. . and who are you to determine purpose for anything..?

Have decided to stay clear of your discussion with dalaman but if you should argue, do so without unnecessary employment of logical fallacies...

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist What Do You Hold Sacred In Life by johnydon22(m): 8:00am On Aug 29, 2015

I would like to mention that atheism is not a doctrine, the only thing that label people atheists is disbelief in Gods. . so i can only speak for myself.

What i hold to be sacred is "LIFE" as we know it now. . .Human life, animal life and every other life form this planet harbours. .

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