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Politics › Re: Buhari Meets With Northern Traditional Rulers At Aso Villa by johnydon22(m): 12:18pm On Jun 25, 2015

From the pace this government is going and the rate they take photos is out of league.
There is nothing wrong in taking photos and uploading it as much as you want, am sure that wouldn't affect the quality of good governance but it raises the concern if they would be showing us something in picture and something else totally happening in reality.

Am a huge fan of goodluck and now a fan of Buhari because whether we like it or not he is our president for the next 4 years, Criticism or bashes wouldn't change that..

I hope Buhari starts delivering his campaign promises and we can only hope this meeting was for something good of the country and not some political shenanigans in order to take more photos.

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Whatsapp Chat With A New Young Pastor In My Church As Regard Tithing by johnydon22(m): 12:14pm On Jun 25, 2015

daroz:
OK then, what is the name of my church?

You want me to reveal more information and castigate myself more to the public huh

Christianity Etc › Re: My Whatsapp Chat With A New Young Pastor In My Church As Regard Tithing by johnydon22(m): 11:55am On Jun 25, 2015

daroz:
See this guy o, u Funny shall. U be pastor?

Yes and am the New pastor in your church you had no idea i was on nairaland. . . Now you have leaked everything we talked in private to the public, is that right undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: My Whatsapp Chat With A New Young Pastor In My Church As Regard Tithing by johnydon22(m): 11:49am On Jun 25, 2015

Omg why did you reveal my chat with you, i thought chats are supposed to be private and you have gone ahead and revealed our private discussion to the public. . . angry

Politics › Re: The Aburi Prophecy by johnydon22(op): 11:47am On Jun 25, 2015*

Rilwayne001:
I'm also against war and violence.

But do think the bolded is possible? just like that?

Well for one it is a sure knowledge that any amount of Civil now is the end for Nigeria. . . No country goes through two civil wars and remains the same...The international community will disintegrate the country if any such occurs again.

Another civil war in Nigeria and Nigeria will disintegrate for real it wouldn't take months.

If igbos really need to secede all they need do is start a war and that is it, but how many souls will that end, at what price. . probably thousands of lives....

For peaceful disintegration, For now that seems far fetched because Nigerians still don't want to tell themselves the truth whether we want to stay together or not.. You read one of my threads "Irony of One Nigeria".

Do we want to be together or not? Our Actions and words are contradictory..

e.g: Here in nairaland you will hear one person say..
" Igbos should go"

then later on say

"Nothing can divide Nigeria"

You see, we need to decide what we really want, If everyone figures out its not working and be true to ourselves then i think peaceful disintegration is possible but if we continue this double standard blowings, then i don't see that happening.

Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Looks Like When Viewed From The Moon. by johnydon22(op): 11:32am On Jun 25, 2015

lalasticlala:
U mentioned me without source??

I compiled those images myself from the images on my phone. . . you can say it is an original post. . . first hand. . .Image from Nasa which i have added as image source now

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Politics › Re: The Aburi Prophecy by johnydon22(op): 11:30am On Jun 25, 2015

Rilwayne001:
Is it by force that this thread be move to FP?

Meanwhile, where can I download download radio biafra? I need to listen to what that kanu is saying.

No its not

I don't know o, if you really pay attention to my threads you would see that i am an advocate of one Nigeria, but if really Nigeria will disintegrate it should be diplomatic and peace. . . Am a humanist, and totally against any thing that kills people or destroys the planet we live in...

Am against Wars and Violence.

Politics › Re: The Aburi Prophecy by johnydon22(op): 11:12am On Jun 25, 2015

Rilwayne001:
Is it by force

Noooooo. . . . .Na who talk am cheesy

Christianity Etc › How Day & Night Started. . Igbo Folklore (igbo Mythology) by johnydon22(op): 11:11am On Jun 25, 2015*

THE STORY OF HOW DAY AND NIGHT BEGAN (Igbo folklore)
Folklore is a way most cultures preserve their cultural background and mythology.
The Igbos are rich in mythologically rich folklores and i was opportuned to hear some from my parents.

I believe in this our 21st century, the age of computer and wonderful technologies. it's our duty to preserve our folklores and mythology and convey them to our children and their children after them when we might be called grand-pa/ma.

This is a story you might find in different versions from different Igbo communities but let me tell the story based on what my dad told me. hope you enjoy it.

The hurricane lamp glowed with little tip-toeing amber light flickering on it casting a yellowish-gold amber light around the room, Papa's eyes sparkled from the glow, i sat quietly on my young tender legs curled in a lotus manner, my brothers and sisters sat around looking at papa. all was quiet, then papa began

[size=18]"Long ago when the skies were still land for squirrels, the world was young and the trees were brighter and greener, the sun was gentler and dimmer, bird songs filled the air.

Their was no day or night, people lived and slept anytime they want without any time determining phenomena.

A certain old widow lived in a village, she was wealthy as she was kind even though her husband was dead. She had many servants and workers taking care of her wealth but yet she lacked just one thing.

Many years after her marriage to her husband they had no child until her husband's death. she was unhappy even though she lacked nothing materially.

One day following the advice given by one of her servants she visited a very powerful dibia (native/witch doctor). who after some necessary sacrifices and incantations referred her to the land of ekwensu. **Ekwensu is the trickster and cunning/mischievous god in igbo pantheon)

"When you get to the land of ekwensu, you will see many choices of children. handsome ones, ugly ones, beautiful ones, handicapped and many more, you have to choose wisely" the dibia sang out

" but when you get to the land of ekwensu, you must wait until you hear mild ringing sounds then you can enter, but if you are hearing drum-like sounds you must never enter" The shaky voice of the dibia warned.

The old woman journeyed to the land of ekwensu, after many moons (months) of waiting of which the drum-like sound persisted, the soft ringing sound became audible replacing the drum-like sounds that have been sounding for many moons she was there.

She walked into ekwensu's land and met the god. Ekwensu told her all the good children he had went on an errand, she should go back and return later unless she would like to take the handsome boy standing at a corner but he was full of mischief, had a raging blood lust and magical abilities.

The woman after many minutes of thinking chose to take the boy instead of waiting many more moons before the next ringing sound or going home empty handed. The child was given to her making her very happy to have a handsome son now that will inherit her wealth.

The boy grew handsomely and strong, after many years his lust for blood crept in.
He started by beheading his mother's chickens one by one, the woman thought he would be ok once the chickens are all dead but he moved to the goats afterwards. Then he started with the cattles until all the old woman's live stocks were all beheaded.

He started beheading the slaves, moving into the village beheading people subduing them with magical charms until finally he beheaded his mother.

An old witch that lived in the outskirts of the village knew the evil boy would come for her soon and was not ready to loose her head to a little boy so she spent her time making charms that would make darkness fall so she can escape the evil boy.

As expected the evil boy visited the old woman with sharp shimmering blood ridden matchet charging towards the old woman.

She threw her charm on the ground and darkness fell making the boy not to see where she was.
The boy being a magically inclined being threw his own charm and light restored.

They kept on doing this for days, throwing the charms at interval inducing light and darkness. the woman was determined to survive but the boy was bent on having her head.

The 7th day of their struggle, worn out and tired. Both of them tiredly threw their charms together causing it to explode suddenly. the light and darkness stuck to the world permanently turning the woman to a cricket who always shrieks during the night and the evil child vanished forever.

And that is why till this day; The light and darkness charm shared the day into two equal parts coming out at interval because there is none that can stop them anymore, and the cricket always cries in the night.

That is why we have day and night in the world now..[/size]

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Politics › Re: The Aburi Prophecy by johnydon22(op): 11:00am On Jun 25, 2015

Cc. lalasticlala ... ishilove

Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Looks Like When Viewed From The Moon. by johnydon22(op): 10:58am On Jun 25, 2015

Cc. lalasticlala ishilove

Politics › Re: The Irony And Reality Of One Nigeria (an Opinion) by johnydon22(op): 10:54am On Jun 25, 2015

Cc. lalasticlala ishilove

Christianity Etc › Re: How To Invent A Religion by johnydon22(m): 7:45am On Jun 25, 2015

theAtheist101 you forgot to add you have to hallucinate and claim a god is your father..

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Science/Technology › Re: astonishing images from space. by johnydon22(op): 9:50pm On Jun 24, 2015

galaxies

Christianity Etc › Re: How To Invent A Religion by johnydon22(m): 9:19pm On Jun 24, 2015

timonski:
I can bet my left te.sticle that you've never had se.x before.

Hahahahahahahahaha this is gonna give me a good laugh all night cheesy

..**wipes a tear** cheesy

. . .

meanwhile, my bae is here, gotta go attend to her wink

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 9:14pm On Jun 24, 2015

Scholar8200:
8 For the Sadducees say that there is ..., neither angel, nor spirit:

Is this also your belief?

I don't think not believing in something is a belief of the negate. . . They don't believe in neither angels or spirit. . that means they don't. . Thats a negate and beliefs are not for negates. .

Science/Technology › Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by johnydon22(m): 9:11pm On Jun 24, 2015

hahn:
Word. They'd rather spend money on bombs and arms than on food for the hungry

The world will never know true peace as long as they are people who make money out of wars

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Science/Technology › Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by johnydon22(m): 9:04pm On Jun 24, 2015

Humans tower at number [size=20]1[/size]on the world most dangerous animals count down. .

You look around you and you will see that the threat to this world is not fictious alien invasions, vampires, zombies, fairies/god flying down to earth to destroy it and all other mythical fables we have conjured up through out time. .

You'd realize that the only threat to the world is humans.

Man is a threat to himself, other animals and the planet we live in..

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 5:22pm On Jun 24, 2015

Scholar8200:
The attribution of perfection (a Divine attribute) to Adam is because:
1. he was more than flesh and blood;
2. he had a spirit which other creatures dont have;
3 his perfection was the result of his union with God, by his (Adam's) spirit;
4[b]the command by God (concerning avoiding a tree) shows that Adam's perfection was not holistic (in other words the union with God was not at once exhaustive; there were limits) and though God had that in mind, He wont do it without Adam's willing cooperation.
[/b] Bear in mind that this perfection had its source from his union with God which was to be limited at the initial stages

5[b]Corollary therefore is that God set those limits because it will be against the Divine Nature to forge an exhaustive union at once sans the cooperation of Adam's will.[/b]

there is nothing like limited perfection. .Perfection is perfection, imperfection is imperfection.

Now there is a define perfection. . . Hahahahahahahahaha...

we are talking Adam as an entity if he is perfect not his mythological features like what you listed above..

He had the ability to make wrong(imperfect) decisions therefore had an imperfect trait, adam aint perfect then.

How did a perfect god create a perfect adam that became imperfect... ?

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 5:10pm On Jun 24, 2015

Scholar8200:
See it this way, were the other creatures perfect?

The attribution of perfection to Adam is because:
1. he was more than flesh and blood;
2. he had a spirit which other creatures dont have;
3 his perfection was the result of his union with God, by his (Adam's) spirit;
4 the command by God (concerning avoiding a tree) shows that Adam's perfection was not holistic (in other words the union with God was not at once exhaustive; there were limits) and though God had that in mind, He wont do it without Adam's willing cooperation.

Adam's perfection was not a built-in ability like the beating of the heart! God is a Spirit and Adam's spiritual progress was not going to be achieved in an instant (that will be unlike God's nature)

Meaning Adam was a living soul, made a partaker of God's nature (to a certain degree) but was not without an intellect and will. Again,what would have been the need of a command to abstain from the tree if Adam already had the fullness of the Divine nature in perfection it being no choice of his?

The command given by God already shows that it was going to be a probationary period for the man and his part in God (perfection included) would be in stages as his cooperation and willingness will determine.
(thread is for a brother in need!)

Same thing again huh

**face palm**

Perfection means total excellence. .

since adam was not excellent (therefore fell) means ada was not perfect...

again, How did an alleged perfect god create something imperfect?

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 5:01pm On Jun 24, 2015

malvisguy212:
if God already chose you to fall, then why did he say why beware? (1 Peter 5:.

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Landed. . . If he never knew what i would do before i do them then he is not omniscient. . . then that is settled..

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 4:59pm On Jun 24, 2015

Scholar8200:
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Adam's perfection was not a built-in ability like the beating of the heart! God is a Spirit and Adam's spiritual progress was not going to be achieved in an instant (that will be unlike God's nature)

Besides, our use of the word perfect here does not mean Adam had all the Divine attributes in the same degree as God at creation: on the contrary, it was a starting point experience;( The incorruptible body Christ had after resurrection was not the same body Adam had else what would have been the issue with the tree of life after the fall?)

A careful reading through the mysteries in the gospels & epistles show that God still had further and greater plans for the man He had created before the latter fell.
Adam was on a kind of probationary stage (at the time he fell) else the tree of life and its consequence wont have been an issue after the fall. Why? Because God, in the Nature of Who HE is, never forces us into anything. However, the statement made by God showed He still had greater and higher plans for Adam.

Meaning Adam was a living soul, made a partaker of God's nature (to a certain degree) but was not without an intellect and will. Again,what would have been the need of a command to abstain from the tree if Adam already had the fullness of the Divine nature in perfection it being no choice of his?

The command given by God already shows that it was going to be a probationary period for the man and his part in God (perfection included) would be in stages as his cooperation and willingness will determine.
(thread is for a brother in need!)

What was it then. . . Its a very simple case scenario and you keep copying and pasting your posts.

Was Adam perfect?

If yes, then how come a perfect being made an imperfect decision or better put had the ability to be imperfect, this shows it was imperfect fro the on set.

If No, same question. .how could imperfect adam come out from perfect god... U can't eat your cake and have it grin

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 4:54pm On Jun 24, 2015

malvisguy212:
very Good, you live God out of this.

Hahahahaha how can god be left out of it when he was the one that made imperfect man. .isn't it what we are talking about?. . .Man had the ability to be imperfect, shows man is imperfect, shows god has the ability to create something that is not perfect therefore is nothing near perfection himself.

Alright, you reject God, were did it start? By your own idea that God does not exist? As long as you cannot disprove his existence,

Hahahahahahaha disprove that which has not being proven.

Ok disprove that i have a white unicorn with diamond horns tied to my kitchen now grin

it mean you reject God by your own invention.

That i have the ability to reject anything shows the ability is innate. . . so this innate ability is as a result of the source...

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 4:44pm On Jun 24, 2015

malvisguy212:
God gave you freewill to chose from and you chose to rebel against Him.

Satan is involved in your deception.

Lol. . How could there be freewill when he already know what i would choose and cannot be wrong. . If you say he doesn't know what i would do then he is not omniscient, if he is omniscient then how could they be freewill..

Again how did perfect satan turn imperfect and then influence perfect man to turn imperfect too . . . You see its a chain of imperfection of which all came out from one source!!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 4:42pm On Jun 24, 2015

malvisguy212:
read my second post, what do you understand by the word "corrupt"? Genesis 6:11-12 say human corrupt his OWN way.To "corrupt" means to make morally depraved. It means to pervert what is good and upright. It means to make unclean what was once clean. It
means to spoil what was once good and unspoiled. The word corrupt always implies a former state that was unspoiled, clean, good, or upright. It is never used to speak of the original created nature of man. It speaks of what man has become because of spoiling or perverting the nature with which he was created.

Great, that man was able to corrupt his own way shows that man had the ability to corrupt and this is imperfect.

So how did perfect man have the ability to corrupt (imperfection)?

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 4:40pm On Jun 24, 2015

Scholar8200:
He yielded to temptation!

Besides, our use of the word perfect here does not mean Adam had all the Divine attributes in the same degree as God at creation: on the contrary, it was a starting point experience;
a careful reading through the mysteries in the epistles show that God still had further and greater plans for the man He had created before the latter fell.

Adam was on a kind of probationary stage (at the time he fell) else the tree of life and its consequence wont have been an issue after the fall. However, the statement made by God showed He still had greater and higher plans for Adam.

It is just two options. . . Its either something is perfect or its not.

Again, How did a perfect created Adam make an imperfect decision which is yielding to temptation..?

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 4:38pm On Jun 24, 2015

malvisguy212:
were did God create rebellion? Is a rebellion now a 'thing' ? Smh

Nope rebellion is not a thing its an action. . . so who gave him the ability to rebel?

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 4:37pm On Jun 24, 2015

malvisguy212:
how do you worship God without freewill?man was created in His image, that why Jesus say "ye are god" but the choice man make has nothing to do with God, it's between Good and evil. The bible say satan was created perfect and with the finest materials but why did satan rebel against God?

Notice the "I WILL" in this verse, does this not proved that everyone is responsible for his freewill(action)?

Then it shows man already has the ability to be imperfect therefore since it has an ability to be imperfect it means man was never perfect. . How did satan that was perfect possess the ability to rebel. . . That satan possess the ability to rebel shows it is not perfect. . . Rebelling on satan's part is an imperfect trait, so how did a perfect being possess that imperfect trait?

Imagine even satan created with god's finest perfect material became imperfect, it seems making a perfect thing is impossible for this your perfect god.

So again, How did a supposedly perfect god create imperfect beings?

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 4:25pm On Jun 24, 2015

malvisguy212:
thank you for your time.

You don't want to tell me what i want to know. .

How man that is created upright act against his upright nature and did something that is not upright?

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 4:20pm On Jun 24, 2015

GooseBaba:
Again, if i chose to rebel against god.. Who created rebellion... Me or your god..? What was his purpose of creating rebellion...?

Remember he already know you would rebel before creating you... And you must act according to that which he already foreknew because he cannot be wrong... So whose fault is exactly that you rebelled? grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 4:14pm On Jun 24, 2015

GooseBaba:
Me I tire for this Maradonas ohhh... Haba..!! It's like if I prepare food with no salt, upon realizing that the food taste funny, I turn around and blame the food.. Really...!!!

Imagine. . . god is perfect, created perfect humans with the ability to be imperfect. .(how can perfection even turn imperfect in the first place)

That humans are imperfect in the face place shows it was never perfect. . because something initially perfect can never turn out to be imperfect.

so since they claim their god created man, only imperfection can bore out something imperfect..

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help, I Don't Want To Be An Atheist!!!! by johnydon22(m): 4:11pm On Jun 24, 2015

malvisguy212:
imperfection cannot come out from perfection. Human being imperfection has NOTHING to do with God. They corrupt there own way>>>> "The earth also was corrupt
before God, and the earth was
filled with violence. And God
looked upon the earth and
behold it was corrupt; for all
flesh had corrupted HIS WAY
upon the earth." Genesis 6:11,
12.

Very good. . . perfect means excellent..
If something is perfect anything that thing does must be very excellent..

so humans were initially created perfect then they turned imperfect out of their own decision..

How did a perfect being make a decision that is imperfect therefore making them imperfect, it only shows it possess imperfection already therefore not perfect from the onset.

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