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[quote author=OBlaize post=31415835][/quote]Hahahahahahahaha this your proof? i was actually expecting something like that... it's called nuclear fusion..

I thought you had proof/evidences that a sky man exists...lolzzz

GerogeI:
I do agree with you that the big bang was just a huge Che&Therm and Nuclear burst (plus any other type of energy exchange that we have not discovered). How ever, you are Jumping the gun on evolution which is just an optimization. How did evolution start without an initiator?

Have you read about evoluton at all? simple question, please give me a truthful answer..

OBlaize:
Interesting...

I like minds like yours...

Minds that thinks so rationally and so "outside the box" that its stuck in the clouds, no pun intended.

As pertinent as it may seem to help bring u back to earth, I would in the light of "common sense" refrain from doing so, reasons being that I am not sure wheter or not you are open to sound resoning and logic or you are stuck on "claims" and blind arguments.

That being said I would still give a few pointers to better butress my points, there is a God, and he created all things, my proof? Science.

Let me know if your are scientifically inclined to listen to the facts and I would go further to argue my point

am really curious to know more.. ok continue... Show us how science is your proof?... but please be as snappy as possible i hate reading long posts

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An2elect2:
I have no problem You are the one wallowing in deep shit, thats why you keep running up and down the religion section like a troubled dog. Indeed you are!

Go back and read previous posts, they said much and that's something you need to chew.

Arguing with a man who has thrown common sense, is a big waste of brain cells and huge time man.

I love watching you guys make a fool of yourselves!

don't kill the show

lol you really have nothing to contribute, you take arguments personal.. i have nothing left to say to you...

lol makes sense...

GerogeI:
When you open your mouth to slot food in, you are dealing with volume- that is space. When you reference the sequence of birth of your siblings that is time. These are such mundane human experiences that I saw no reason to tell you how we all observe them. However, it is a fact that our basic understanding of these sensations break down in the face of advance physics. That is exactly why Einstein is very popular

Yeah i know all this...

you still havent answered my question.

What do you imply by 'Outside space and time?'

How did you know their is such a thing as 'Outside space and time'?

An2elect2:
kikikikiki even if all the facts are brought forward, you wouldn't still believe. I read previous posts and i saw sound refutations of your foolish believe.

Then bring it on!. . . the first problem is that you can't even prove the existence of this your sky daddy... Bring it on lets have it..

GerogeI:
This is the answer in the shortest possible way

The question is how did you know that their is something as outside space and time?

Or is it just an assumption you came up with?

what is outside space and time?

You see this space and time crap just proves God(s) are just a product of human wild imagination... Theist can't explain how their God started, then to kill that curiosity comes up with something like 'outside space and time' How did you know?

An2elect2:
If God had an origin, He wouldn't be God!

And he wouldn't have an origin because you wouldn't want it to stop being God...

cycluse:
it is a sin to start imagine who created God,there are something's beyond our imagination,

and this is your fear and why you refuse to think for yourself?

An2elect2:
You don't need facts man, what you need is to get your common sense back, even if it means fighting for it! common now

You see? You are just here to troll... you don't need facts what you need is common sense that makes you believe Donkeys can talk.. now thats really common..

No thank you i'd rather have uncommon sense... now run along if you don't have any argument to present...

An2elect2:
crap. Who believes this rubbish?

why don't you refute it using argument and not trolling... let me see you try

Volksfuhrer:
You are very funny...I tried not to laugh at this, but I just could not. In fact, I'm still laughing as I type this.

I don't know why people waste time on proving things that do not fall within the boundaries of logic. No statement of fact or logical system can either prove or refute the existence of God.

Many great philosophers from Anselm to Immanuel Kant tried and failed. The existence of God is solely a matter of faith, nothing more!

lolzzz when you cannot even prove it... Prove it first

Hiswordxray:
OK, Help me to acknowledge the absurdities in different faith.

Like i said earlier, atheists preach to no one... it is left for you to use ur brain.. i listed some of the absurdities to you like snake talking n all that...

Now stop asking me to help you think, you have your brain and i have mine.. i am not asking you to think like me, i just want you to think..

Are clear now?

Hiswordxray:
What did I do now, I said I now believe you.
You are now my new teach, so teach me the way of atheism or humanism.

First I have to be able to convince properly, myself and my other religious people that religion is delusion.

We do not teach atheism, neither do we preach it... its a personal thing bore out of reasoning...

I won't teach anything cus atheism is not a religion... atheism is just following reason ... acknowledging absurdities in different faiths.

Knowing a snake can't talk, a donkey cant talk like the bible says, an infant dont talk like the quran says and a freaking virgin dont get pregnant from a ghostly unseen father without sperm..lolzz.

Now run along boy...

YourMain:
Well others aren't me? Others have opinions outside mine

Jihad means to struggle. End of.

Sweety don't dodge the question... just tell me if the killing is moraly right or wrong?

YourMain:
Personally I do not. Because of how I've grown up and the way I've lived my life.

But there are circumstances that will make someone think its okay. For example someone that lives in today's Syria. And has seen their mother and sister raped and murdered in cold blood, their father beaten to death, their neighbor burnt alive. Doesn't that skew their morals? If they choose to avenge, do they realise at that time that their morals are wrong?

Dear it was a simple question, Do you need religion to know murder is wrong and the bolded have answered that for me.

now another question [size=20] Jihadists think they are doing the will of God by killing infidels or christian crusaders in the dark ages thought they were doing the will of God by killing heretics, Do you think this is moral? [/size] Just a simple yes it is moral or No it is not is all i want..

YourMain:
No I think religion does help sometimes outline sound morals. I do agree that most people that Do bad lack empathy or are just evil. But sometimes it is a situation where they do not know better.

I think religion just outlines morals. Like your morals can be different from mine because of the difference expreiences we've had or our perspective of things. So religion comes into play when it says this is right and this is wrong.

Tell me do you need religion to know that murder is wrong?

You know most of the times, these girls no go allow holy spirit flow to us brothers during the fire session... Anyways every organisation have the right to state the dress code they want and you as a member must adhere to it when you are on your normal everyday life dress anyhow you like their is absolutely wrong with it...

Ok first to comment... Grabs plot..

WARNING: Dont beware of dogs, beware of the owner, private property dont trespass.

YourMain:
I completely agree. I Dont think religion and goodness have much correlation. So what ifeann mentioned me for... Is complete nonsense.

Yes dear, we do not need religion to determine what is right from wrong, if one cannot distinguish between right from wrong, then that person lacks empathy not religion.

Morality is not christian neither is it islamic, morality is human it belongs to no ism. and does not depend for foundation upon the supernatural or any book or creed, because morality itself is a foundation..

Hiswordxray:
OK I believe you, you are right.

According to you someone can be so emotional that when he touch other they start falling and feeling emotional.
No wonder people in parties always make others fall by touching them. And in your family you use to make each other fall when feeling emotional. This is to happened all the time, a emotional person can just be walking on the street and when he touch others they fall. I can see...

Your brain just went beske.. U can't even comprehend my simple english..

Hiswordxray:
And people get so emotional when they are praying that when others touch them they fall.

Now that explained what happened in my fellowship on Sunday. Those people where feeling so emotional that when I touch them they fall. But before I touch them there was someone else laying his hand on them and they didn't fall. Or could it be I have become Micheal Jackson?

And people can just decide not to fall sick and end up not falling sick. Because I know many others who don't fall sick as soon as they realize they had been healed in Christ Jesus. But now that I have realized that Christ isn't real and it a thing of the mind. That means that people can actually decide never to fall sick and not fall sick. Then why do we need doctor?
Everybody should be living in perfect health. All doctors should be sacked and people should study psychology Instead of medicine.

And concerning the issues of scorpions and bee sting. So scientists had been lying to us all this while, bee and scorpions can sting you and nothing will happen. This prove science is not reliable and scientists are liers.

Thanks for the explanation Bro.

Am done with you, clearly your brain lacks comprehension... One thing i like about reason is that once it sets in, wahala don deh...

YourMain:
Lol I completely disagree. Id like to think I'm a good person and I'm also a good muslim.

Belief/unbelief doesnt make anyone good or bad dear.. your behaviour and action towards others makes you good.

Muslim, Christian, atheist, pegan anybody can be good...

Ifeann:
Yes "Wikipedia " is an "excellent" source.. u think I made my statement without googling frist. ..just like the term "new atheist" agnostic atheism is a recent nonsensical term invented by the godless to make sense of their ideology and distance themselves from old school atheism. There are a lot of terms in the spectrum of the atheist ideology. .

Lol end word I am an atheist... now move on

Ifeann:
Apparently this newbie needs to be told that agnostic and atheist means 2 different things..it's an oxymoron to use the words in a way to claim u are both...

Agnostic atheism wikipedia encyclopedia Agnostic atheism, also called atheistic agnosticism , is a philosophical position that
encompasses both atheism and agnosticism . Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do
not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the
existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism ... smh... Now you see how ridiculous and ignorant you sound.. Now am done correcting you in this forum again..

Ifeann:
Lol.. I will be interested in seeing evidence for this ur knowledge about christainity. .
Making statements that are not evidence based Says a lot about you. ..

OK. .i am done with u..now run along and stop pretending to be the well studied "agonostic atheist humanist" u portray urself as. Come to think of it u are the only person I know that calls himself an agnostic atheist. ...and if u attack christianity I will be there to call u to order as I do to the muslims. ..

hahahahahahaha he doesnt even know what agnostic atheist means.... How can i possibly argue with this guy...

I don't have time to start any baseless personal talk with you..

Latest news #WeFuckingLoveAtheism

Ifeann:
I think u meant ridiculous... anyway Look johnydon22 it's okay..when u have done extensive studying on these issues u will be taken serious.,

Peace. .

Thanks for the correction...

I am sure i know far more than you can ever think of knowing about christianity.. but let me not bring myself that low ... Am done with you.

9jaforlife:
Johnny kindly be informed that Ifeann is NOT a Muslim. Thank you!

I know, Just needed her to go back to her anti-islam agenda and leave me out of it..

RexBrita:
Davien
i have been as honest as anyone can. when you read all the responses of other 'atheists' here, you will see i am very correct. apparently, just like in other religions, atheism has denominations too.

I blatantly disagree with you on this... thats a big lie

Ifeann:
Oh now u getting worked up ... I had to make it clear to him that u are new to atheism. .so he doesn't get the impression u have done much studying on these issues...

My apologies if u feel offended... I won't mention u in future..

Very good..we are clear on it..

@bolded as fallacious and rediculous as it is, i will just ignore it...

chiobysyk:
I quite appreciate your level of knowledge. but to claim that God is a general name is wrong. if you have a knowledge of philosophy of religion, you will find out that deities are not the bone of contention but GOD. philosophers are religionists are all concerned about the existence of a Supreme being. the other names you mentioned are otherwise known as deities or 'gods' and not God

It is you who fail to acknowledge the fact.. God is a distinction they all share.

The viking supreme God is Odin

The jewish supreme God is Yahweh

The Hindu supreme God is Krishna

The greek supreme God is Zeus...

These deities are all regarded as the supreme God and creator of the universe from all their respective religions and cultures..

So take your pick... which is real?

Ifeann:
Let me start by saying I admire ur bravery. . It takes guts. One statement u made readily got me thinking IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE A GOOD MUSLIM AND AT THE SAME TIME A GOOD PERSON.
I hope u make more posts and keep us updated on ur journey..

It might interest u to know johnydon22 is a newbie to atheism https://www.nairaland.com/1957516/catholics-come-ask-questions-catholic..
^^^^^^^^^^
That's him just in October last year defending his Catholic faith..some of us have walked that skeptic path and left it.

anyway justlove91 before u turn ur back on all religions I invite u to study more about christainity but where do u start.. lots of fake pastors out there and greed churches ...

Please start with this book written by an ex atheist "mere christainity "..I got the audio tape on YouTube and listen to it..
It discusses several religions atheism theism and of focuses on christainity
. .also get a bible..

Have a nice weekend.

Tartar9 tola9ja rilwanye001 empiree 9jaforlife mrolai yourmain mathematical yazach usermane this is a great read. I invite u to read this.

Please i beg you, keep my name out of your posts, make your points but don't bring me into it... please... Even if i turned atheistic yesterday its none of your business... stop this your unwarranted poke nosing.... Just keep it between you and your fellow muslim brethren.

I mentioned to him that i just emancipated myself from all this religious shiit and christianity cus it's all fraud and mythical fabrications.. i made my own point to the op and did not mention or drag you into it, please next time make your points without dragging or mentioning me in it...