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malvisguy212:
The differences between the words describing human vs. godly jealousy are profound. For example, the jealousy that keeps one out of heaven is defined as "an envious and contentious rivalry, jealousy" ( Thayer's Greek Dictionary).

God does not envy an human being or
anything that any human being
possesses. God has no rivals. The apostle Paul indicates that there is a godly form of jealousy. The main reason why atheists think that God should not be jealous is that, as an English word,
"jealousy" has virtually universal
negative connotations. In the original
languages in which the Bible is written,
Hebrew and Greek, the words translated as "jealousy" in English do not always have negative connotations. In fact, the Greek word often translated "jealous" is ZÉLOUS, from which we get the English word "ZEALOUS," referring more to zeal and ardor rather than jealousy.

LOL godly jealousy.. lolzzz... oga jealousy is jealousy...lmao..

Darkly:
hey guys you've got a new member!!!!

You are welcome

ladon1:
You worry about your african mythology and leave us with our Christ(glorious) mythology

Am happy you know its myth... ok carry on

Unbias:
Next time ask him to strike you with charm that will make you fall flat and become unconscious. I'm sure he would have done that successfully. Go to Ijebu land to dare real native doctors, then come back to tell us the story

Please tell anyone u know that Johnydon wants them to strike me with thunder... lets see..

vooks:
Adam's kids.
Go figure how old Adam was when Seth was born

hahahaha Adam's kids are one city? ewoooo

i thought only cain and abel where born then... abi adam don born like 100 before cain killed abel? chai all this lies u are sharing.. diariz god oooo

ifekemmie:
God doesn't feel insecure or watever , dnt av anoda God with me. Dat where d jealous comes in. His wat us to be his forever not to satan, dat y He said His a jealous God.

Like u re aving extra affair with ur fiance or fiancee, he/ she will get jealous

Thats freaking insecurity naa .... if thats not insecurity he wouldn't mind..

seriously you guys need to start paying more attention to your own (African) mythology and not disturb yourselves over jewish mythology...

lufemi:
Please before crucifying me, this is my opinion on the matter.
I believe that it was Sex because:
1. It was named the tree of the knowledge of good and evil at thesame time;I think Sex is still the only thing that remains good and evil at thesame time. It is also the only sin committed against one's soul and body (1st cor 6 vs. 18, 1st peter 2 vs 11)
2. Jesus had to come without sexual intercourse and also had none even through marriage to be a perfect sacrifice for our sins and so he was born without sin, neither did he commit any, so he gave us back the life we lost in the garden of eden (1st cor.15 vs.45). Remember God told them they shall die(Gen 2 vs.17) but it is more of a spiritual death than physical
3. God cursed Woman through the pain of childbirth, why not through any other means?(Gen 3 vs 16)
4. The first thing they noticed was their unclothedness, why not any other thing?(Gen 3 vs 6-7)

Overall, the most essential thing is to love God, either its fruit or sex, it does not matter. What matters is doing good and making heaven.

If it was sex, how dah fvck was Adam and eve supposed to procreate.. asexual means **face palm****sighs**

Jewish mythology have finished africa

VerseOmatic:
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I personally don't like atheists,but african atheists I have a strong dislike for ... You people are just copy cats with your low self esteem along with african homosexuals .. Copy cats all of you! Following the white men blindly. Anyways the bible already predicted people like you would walk the earth Only a fool will say there's no God

Wait a minute, you are a christian right? You worship the jewish deity that the white men brought to you right. . . who dah fvck is the copy cat here

You that practises the white man's religion or me that says i don't want any part of that shiiit

I think the truth is unclad here for all to see

@the italic words, Am a fool because i don't believe the jewish mythology you so much revere huh? lolzzz i love being a fool

hate it if you like but

#WeFuckingLoveAtheism

Looking at the answers here you will see all the theists here are all afraid of what their sky daddy might do to them if they answer the question..

Lol i wonder the type of loving deity that would burn people for asking questions, seems like a retarded saddist and barbaric blood thirsty deity...

Religion has finished these folks, enslaving them psychologically with the fear of hell... chai.... SMH

I once engaged on a heated argument with my friends on supernatural powers, i argued it doesnt work that its just mere parlour tricks.. One claim voodoo is real and charms, the other believed the potency of prayers, luckily we were in the village of the one who believed the potency of voodoo (ezeagu in enugu state) for the burial of his uncle in short the talk of spirits started the argument..

He said he will bring a powerful medicine man to show me something the next while the other said with prayers he can do all things.

The next day the voodoo man came and i was called.

I told them i will give them a simple task, dropped my last #5,000 as a stake.

Then i layed two stones on a small kitchen stool, told the voodoo man to make it fall from the stool without touching it and the prayer guy to pray it down from the stool without touching it.. whoever does it will take my last card, i sat on a plastic chair watching them with a silly ear to ear grin

My christian friend that claimed all powerful rejected the contest straight away saying he doesn't want to test his god.

The medicine man spent almost 10minutes with his bag searching for something that seems not to want to found..lol.

He left and told my friend he will be back...

I picked my money, laughed my rib cage out then i carefully pushed the stone out of the stool turned to my friends and said.

"I just did what your God and voodoo can't"

[size=20] voodoo are mere parlour tricks and wishful thinking in a wider scale ...lol [/size]

more questions.

[size=16]Why would an all knowing God be against knowledge by creating the tree of knowledge and command you never eat from it.

Why would an all powerful God create the tree of knowledge when he knows he doesnt want it to be eaten and also knows adam and eve will eventually eat from it

A perfect and Omniscient God can never regret or make mistakes but God of the bible actually regretted making man (mistake)

Why would an all knowing God wipe out the whole earth with flood because they are evil, still knowing the world will turn evil again.

A loving God seeking for 10 good people before he can spare the cities of sodom and gomorrah, forgot millions of children and unborn babies in the cities, aren't those innocent ones good enough reason to spare the city
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we could go on and on like forever

**Face palm** what do this people smoke **sighs**

walks out of thread

[size=20] una get mb ooo ... But wait shaa, Did muhammed really die while bleeping with his joystick erect[/size] it sounds funny ooo
biko i need a correct answer!!!

kingdvd:
This question rhetoric,
HOW CAN WE DENY THE VERY FACT OF OUR EXISTENCE?!
FRIENDS GOD IS REAL, if the secret of his existence is that easy to answer probably someone else will ask WHY CANT I SEE GOD'S FACE?!
You can never fathom his ways, his ways are too deep for man's small mind to comprehend. Romans 11v33
Here is ur scripture

John 1 The Message (MSG)

The Life-Light
1 1-2 The Word was first,
the Word present to God,
    God present to the Word.
The Word was God,
    in readiness for God from day one.
3-5 Everything was created through him;
    nothing—not one thing!—
    came into being without him.
What came into existence was Life,
    and the Life was Light to live by.
The Life-Light blazed out of the darkness;
    the darkness couldn’t put it out.

King James Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
In the origin The Word had been existing and That Word had been existing with God and That Word was himself God.

God is real

lol

to make the highlighted place more readable let me enhance it more..

The story of cain and abel is another fable copied from other civilization and reworked into jewish mythology just like the story of creation was plagiarized from the mesopotamian creation myth..

The story of cain and abel is originally a kenite story, added fictiously to the jewish myth of adam and eve..

Below is a picture of the explanation i snapped from the new community bible.. it explains and introduces the readers the origin of the stories in the bible and the motive behind the story...

Now read the place i marked with red and see for yourself..

elantraceey:
Hmmmm so you can believe what I'll say his voice sounds like and you won't believe it when I say he exists ? Interesting .

Stop going in circles for just answer the question, its very simple...

waiting....

elantraceey:
If I tell you what he sounds like and what he says would you believe it?

Of course i would believe you with all my heart and become a believer.. now go on

Misogynist2014:
Though I admit my inability to quench your ignorance, Oduduwa is not a myth, he is an idolized legend.

lolzz are we to start arguing over yoruba mythology?

Yoruba creation mythology have it that olodumare create everything and created the first man (oduduwa) at ile-ife.. (many legends still follow the character oduduwa but we are focusing on creation fables)

why not stick to the jeiwsh mythology we are into..

elantraceey:
You really wanna know? Go check the bible

lol typical... you are the one that just claimed you hear his/her/it voice... and i asked you what it sounded like?
since when did reading become a sound..

Just answer the question : What did the voice sound like?

elantraceey:
Well I haven't seen him but seen the wonders of his work , I felt his presence and I hear his voice .

Hindus havent seen krishna and just like you they have seen the wonders of his work, felt his presence and heard its voice..lol.

Now what does his(is it a he/she or an it) voice sound like? baritone? feminine? ?

OjoMadiba:
It is obvious that No One here knows the answer, don't reason spiritual things with your human mind, God is simply The CREATOR THAT WAS NOT CREATED, *dusted *

And yet you tend to grasp this spiritual knowledge with your human mind too.

Since you think human mind can't grab the concept of God(s) why is it that everything we know about this God(s) are from humans e.g quran, bible.

How come you were able to discern its was God who was the creator and was uncreated since obviously this knowledge is spiritual since its about this spiritual entity..

Quant:
Earlier on on this forum @TopsyKrete popped up the question "Who created God?/Where Was God Coming From Before HE Started Creation?". Consequently, I felt obliged to highlight some facts in our comprehension of such scared question.

First, the first reply to such a question is which God are you referring to? There are many gods and there is only one God of all gods. Who is not a figment of any imagination or hand-made of anyone or superhuman imposition of some Greek mythology. I am here referring to God Almighty (no apologies to atheism), the creator and owner of this house (universe) we dwell in.

Therefore if this reference is to God Almighty then your question begs the fact of the limitedness of our knowledge. A pot (assuming it has a mind of its own) can never comprehend the potter (its maker) maximumly beyond the fact that he only makes pots. It won't be able to fathom that he does a thousand and one other activities other than making pots. Likewise, our imagination has caged the entity of God Almighty in whatever way you are thinking now.

Also, I acknowledge that this sort of question comes up after Philosophy 101 class in the study of the discourse of "the cause of the cause". The argument of everything having a cause (precursor); a car is caused (created) by man, man is caused by God, now who caused God? But this philosophy is faulted in a simple fact, if everything has a cause, there comes a generator in this infinite chain of causation that is either not caused (created) or whose cause is not fathomable. Hence, it is reasonable to acknowledge that in reference to God. Why? Because your only thought of something coming into existence is that such a thing must be created and you have shut up to the possibility of something coming into existence without your idea of creation.

We can keep going deeper in this argument but such will be unprofitable because the only two fact you have got to know are:

1. You (a man) made a car, you do not expect your car (if it has a mind, which will be inferior to yours) to fully comprehend you beyond the fact that you are a car maker. It will be foreign to him to see you as a farmer, a footballer, a cook, a teacher; it just says you are an engineer!

2. You have made your car. You cannot/won't make an equal. Hence, your car's mind will be inferior to yours. Therefore, your car will be chasing endlessness trying to fully comprehend you unless you desire to reveal more of yourself to it. So it will be best for your car to employ its mind in being the best of itself in its lifetime. That is, knowing himself better to fully fulfil its own creation purpose. "Know thyself" is the root of all philosophies and religions.

After all this first cause argument you present, you still have not identified the exact God you are refering to..

Allah
Zues
Yawheh
Odin
krishna
horus
thor
osiris
mithras
amadioha
sango
el
baal
and the list goes on and on.

You cant just say you are refering to the creator of the universe when all the above stated God(s) claims that title.
why do you dismiss all this possible creators to make.your own creator of the universe..

So which of them are you referring to, better still where did you derive this your God concept

Misogynist2014:
Give me a single myth that makes use of history

Adam and eve story is just one of the numerous first human stories found in different cultures and societies... Like the Hindus believe its Vishnu, Yorubas believe its Oduduwa, jew say its Adam..

These are just myths and not historical facts, i think you want so well to accept the biblical myths (mesopotamian inspired tho) as truth and dismiss others even the ones its copied from to be myth..

The story of cain and abel is originally a kenite fable that was adopted by the jewish scribe that formulated the adam and eve story and fictiously added to it..

Misogynist2014:
Law came after the freedom of Israel from Egypt. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Since the law wasnt in existence then, On what ground of immorality was the world destroyed in the time of noah? since their was no law then?

How come they were destroyed..!!!

Empiree:
rubbish

hahahaha he caught you there!!!

mmsen:
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Rambling:
Lengthy and digressive

rambling - (of e.g. speech and writing) tending to depart from the main point or cover a wide range of subjects; "amusingly digressive with satirical thrusts at women's fashions among other things"; "a rambling discursive book"; "his excursive remarks"; "a rambling speech about this and that"

My response was a few lines, as opposed to yours. Now tell me again who is rambling.

I will probably keep saying this until the day I die but my major gripe with many religious people is that I'm pretty sure that many of you have not read the religious texts on which you claim to stake your lives upon. It's either that or you do not understand the language in which the text is written. You have already displayed a poor grasp of English, your use of the adjective 'rambling' to describe my response would be more appropriate to describe your own lengthy tome.

There is no scientific backing for your god(s). None. You do not need 'faith' if you have proof. Even the Catholic Church has to push people to believe based on faith, if they had proof they would be ramming that down the throats of the foolish masses instead of their centuries old dogma.

Exactly! and once their is proof/evidence then its no longer belief (faith) but knowledge (certainty)

They seem to forget all they have about this their God(s) is just belief (faith), imagine how an evidence can come out of something believe by faith no matter how desperate the attempt may be..

I can say "i believe a blue flying unicorn with red horns created the universe" and i believe with faith

Reading all theist arguments it all revolves around one thing "First cause Argument" Something can't come out nothing, therefore everything that exists must need a creator" lol...

Using a god that always existed doesnt solve this problem, it only postpones it. Because you have to assume your god didn't need a creator (pops out of nothing) and created everything out of nothing.. Failing in your own argument..

If you can assume your god don't need a creator then i can say such for the universe.

But if something can't come and out of nothing then Your god cant exist on it's own it must have been created by another god, who then must have been created by another and the chain goes on

Bringing such a thing as "a god did it" is a huge stab in the intellectual curiosity of man and drastically reduces your willingness and ability to acquire the knowledge of how it happened.

OBlaize:
You are still rambling

But in a way I get where you are coming from

Man has wreaked a lot of havoc all in the name of "religion" but religious or no, the facts still remains, there is a God and I will prove it with sound scientific evidences if you would let me.

That you are not Aware of any scientific backings of creation does not dismiss its existence.

Open your eyes and look around you, nothing happens by chance because to every action, there is a reaction.

First law of motion states that "every objects continues in its state of rest untill a force acts upon it.

Think about that

And according to you, the material things were at rest until a force acted on them and this force you assume must be God...

GerogeI:
I have not only read about evolution, I simulate it to solve engineering optimization problems. Have you heard about Genetic Optimization algorithm or Evolution Strategies . It is easy to hamper on about the use and disuse, survival of the fittest and all the that, the hard part is who started it (I started the algorithms I run on my system), and where is the proof. If it is the millions of years and stagnant water crap, that has no proof or basis.

And it's weird that someone with knowledge of evolution as you claim would ask how evolution started...