₦airaland Forum

realtem:
That's not an heaven i'll want to be in anyway

edicied:
In Muslim heaven, you can do anyhow

HardMirror:
oh cool
I am interested

butterflylion:
How can you say the faithful are the danger when the same faithful live by divine moral codes that transcend the laws established by men?

What moral laws do atheists live by? They live by those established by men but let's assume such laws established by men cease to exist what would happen to their morality? Let's assume that for some reason one can circumvent this man made laws would an atheist not commit the crime as long as he or she is sure they would not be caught?

The divine higher morality at law in the faithful keeps their conscience alive and even though they also have the tendency of defaulting they also have a higher tendency of listening to the inner voice or conscience and declining. That much I wouldn't say for an atheist.

Hahahaha it's open season on atheists in Malay.

HardMirror:
yes like me admitting I am wrong about God right?

and where have u gotten an honest reply from the religious folk ? how have they honestly replied u r thread? lol.

let us just be honest with ourselves here. I got no time for tongues in cheeks. I will spell it out. There is simply no HONESTY here.

40kobo77:
Very good.

A faithless man is a dangerous man.

hahn:
Having a discussion is only fun when it is had with people who are ready to have their opinions criticized and also ready to admit when they wrong.

Otherwise it is a waste of time. There are a million better ways to make use of one's time

OLAADEGBU:
This is the challenge atheists face and we know why.

Babalawos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFNI0FT6WsY

Mammy water is a water spirit that is different from Olokun or Osun or Oya or Oba or Yemoja....etc

Although they are all water spirits but they operate differently.

Both Olokun and Mammy Water use similar symbols which represent water and are used as a vehicle into the spiritual world.

I took this video during evocation of Mammy Water in my shrine at Benin City, Nigeria.

10 BENEFITS OF MAMMY WATER IN YOUR SHRINE OR HOUSE

{1} Immortality

{2} Revenge

{3} Power

{4} Money

{5} Children

{6} Husband / Wife

{7} Fame

{8} Long Life

{9} Protection

{10} Business Boom / Employment

Thank you for reading, leave a comment

Babalawos

GrandFinale2017:
i'll locate ur shrine at Benin City and I'll destroy it and set all ur idols on fire

GrandFinale2017:
i'll locate ur shrine at Benin City and I'll destroy it and set all ur idols on fire

HardMirror:
I have given up on nairaland. honestly u can't have sane and intellectual arguement here. I begin to agree with hahn, it makes more sense to take advantage of the gullibility of Nigerians than trying to enlighten them.

HardMirror:
johnydon22 more reasons to shake u r head at the stupidity of Christians. They simply don't think

HardMirror:
the very questions I have asked and not gotten an answer to. The very reason why I am so confident heaven can't exist.

youngin:
Bro.... I even think say na whatsapp group she dey talk about at some point

Ermacc:
Since its Philosophy,

Question 1: Truth can not be said to be absolutely constant, it has been found to vary with time, perspective and so on.

Question 2: What is good and what is bad is relative.

Question 3: The usefulness of any information does not rest entirely on the messenger. It's the receiver who finally decides it's uselessness or usefulness

winner01:
Doing great. Just wish I could spend more time here.

winner01:
Lol. Why in Gods name would i care about what's happens on a cosmic scale when I can use my abilities to the fullest in the only chance I got got.

many atheists believe that the universe care should nothing about us, wouldn't it be fair enough to reciprocate the gesture? Tit for tat

So are x-ray images, stainless steel, plastic and many other things we enjoy.
Ultimate meaning is what these don't have. Why should I want to hold on to ultimate meaninglessness?

Which one is earthly perspective and heavenly perspective?

Have you ever gone through the following scriptures?
Philippians 2:4
Act 20:24
Romans 12:9-10
Amongst others.

Still does not matter. I have a right as much as you or carl Sagan did not to give a damn about what you care for the universe or what the universe cares for you.

winner01:
Boo""

winner01:
not really but it arguably should make no difference to someone with a naturalistic worldview if I have a PHD or want to be an armed robber.

As a Christian, I believe life is meaningful and valueable and not some cosmic incident.

I do the best I can to help humanity and flow the life of God to others.

Over to you. What does it matter to you if I'm a highly paid assasin?

winner01:
To what end?
I mean, why should they bother?
We're all supposed to die, never to have any significant meaning in this meaningless accidental inconsequential world.
Why should it matter if some religious persons, skip a thread on the internet or masturbate on it?
What real meaning would it give?

Live your worldview man, you're demonstrating it to be unacheivable.

winner01:
oh my bad. Pardon me. It's usually the end game of all atheist gimmicks.

If someone told me the following "If a teacher existed, with the ability to teach us all subjects effectively without the exception of any subject, we would have heard of such teacher".
I wouldn't have much to conclude either

winner01:
And because God did not make man in the state in which we feel man should be made, then it makes God non-existent. Great logic.

DoctorAlien:
It is not about what GOD would do in heaven; it is about what the dwellers in Heaven have done while they were on earth. They had cultivated a character of holiness and obedience to GOD while they were on earth. The fact that even death, which is the ultimate price, could not change their character of obedience to GOD(Rev. 12:11) tells you that such a character is permanent, and they would dwell with it forever.

So, Heaven is safe, and sin will never arise again(Nahum 1:9).

DoctorAlien:
How could you be a man without being born of men? You begin to wonder, why didn't GOD create 7 billion people on earth? It is because He has designed for our first parents to be the parents of all men. GOD created our first parents, and commanded them to procreate. Creating you directly into Heaven means you'd be an angel or any other being, but not a man. Don't you get it?

DoctorAlien:
In heaven we would still be men, okay?(Rev. 21:3).

GOD actually values man more than angels(Jn. 3:16). Jesus Christ will, throughout eternity, bear the form of man. That's a privilege. GOD created man in His own image, but He did not create angels in His own image. It's a privilege to be a man. And I would rather be a man, than be an angel. Man is the crown of GOD's creation. Heaven would simply be a place of restoring man to his original position, and only then can we begin to know the glorious destiny which GOD prepared for man.

DoctorAlien:
How can man's disobedience call into question Heaven's purity? That's meaningless.

Man could choose to sin because he was created with freewill, just like angels.

DoctorAlien:
This is where you miss it. Why do you think everybody won't be in Heaven? It is because only those who have cultivated a character of holiness would be able to dwell in Heaven's sinless company(Heb. 12:14).

Heaven is for only those who have shown on earth that come what may, they would never disobey GOD. These loved GOD(Jn. 14:15) to the extent that they would die rather than disobey GOD(Rev. 12:11). Can't you see that even in Heaven, nothing would make them disobey GOD, if they were willing to give up their lives on earth rather than disobey GOD?