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hopefulLandlord:
the problem Kingebukasblog aka WLC wannabe is that he's bombarded himself with debates about WLC who uses KLC, Finetuning Moral......arguments a lot in his debates

I decided to start watching the Guy's debates lately and he usually gets the opponents
tongue tied through all but one of these arguments with his mishmash

I then decided to check out his argument with Carroll, who's a cosmologist but also an atheist and the debate was entirely on Cosmology, nothing more

WLC and his Kalam was totally destroyed in that debate, it was so Pathetic for WLC that by the middle he had exhausted all his point because Carroll had already destroyed them

WLC was now left with repeating "My opponent is saying the universe popped out of nothing"; Carroll then made it clear that he never made no such claim but Craig had no choice than to keep bringing it up, it was a pitiable sight even for Christians, I then realised WLC's KCA is not as sound as people once thought

WLC again brought up the talk about someone's model (he left out the part about that model being just one out of thousands) being the best model and that it proves god because it had a beginning; Sean Carroll however had already done his homework by tracking the maker of the model down, discussing the eternal/non eternal universe with him, and this guy ended up admitting he doesn't know if the universe had a beginning; Sean Carroll then put up a picture of WLC's last hope holding a message that he doesn't know if the universe had a beginning or not


there goes all his Finetuning, ontological, Kalam


how about his moral argument?

I watched a debate between him and a Morality professor who's an atheist Shelly Kagan and he also lost to him and guess what, that's the person's first debate!!


basically what Craig does is to use different arguments, mishmash them and present them knowing he can bullsheeet his way through because you're not an expert in all the field of each of the argument

it's like me arguing Sikhism, Buddhism, Robotics deeply with a person who's only expertise is planting crops and harvesting

no doubt Craig has the right to bring them up but looking at the fact that he usually loses when he comes up with just one argument against an expert, its safe to say none of his arguments are sound







Back to KCA: How do you get from the God who created the Universe to the one who is worried about the skin on the tip of my Dick?

ScienceWatch:
Are you not able to help the guy ? Sorry, my mistake !

Lennycool:
Your answer is in the bolded.
They were already genetically diverse, hence natural selection chose those most suited to survive.
You're actually supporting evolution.

hopefulLandlord:
wtf did I just read?

hopefulLandlord:
wtf did I just read?

ScienceWatch:
Your dear friends dad hate God, so why are you so surprised that he was not healed by the God that he hate ?

You will find the answers to the questions above in the Non religious DVd "The Secret"

By the way, BENZICS, "Coward Atheists" are attracted to "contradictions" like bees to honey. I see glaring contradictions in your statements here. I will not be forward and attempt to unravel it here and take away the food from the hounds.

There many eager to point out your serious "contradictions."

Help this guy ! johnnydon22, hopefullandlord, hardmirror, jonbellion, akintom, coolusername, sirwere, Hahn, Lennycool, benzics

OLAADEGBU:
If I have to prove to you that I am what I am before you can trust me then I cannot be your friend.



The reason is because we use different spectacles to see the evidence before us.

Blogthug:
We see alot of New online Atheist demand for proof of God's existence, but can they even prove their mums existence is not a figment of their imagination? let's put it to the test , note if u can't it means u only believe your mum exists and not Know she does

NLmember:
Liberadeus,

i didnt read your long stupid essay.

You think I have time to stay online arguing with atheists?

I didnt read it and I will stick to my myopic reasoning thank you very much.

No way in hell will I ever trust an atheist.

Atheists can be moral my arse.

Rubbish. Bunch of reprobates claiming moral.

NLmember:
why do you atheists like to lie to yourselves?

Are you idiots living in bubbles of self delusion?

You clowns really believe a lot of people will decide to live right when they know there will be no repercussions for bad behaviour?

urheme:
you are so disappointed that one of your own has turned a rebel in your camp.....no freedom with out rebellion.......Hond want to liberate you from your closed mindedness and cowardice ..........beside you did not give me any reason why i should not take him serious.....i won't even listen to you any way.

SirWere:
Once more, you show the gulf between you and common sense.

So out of the multitudes editing Wikipedia, none saw it fit to include the fact that He graduated from a medical school abi
Despite the fact that he is a popular celebrity, no one dug up that he studied medicine, heck, he didn't see it fit to mention himself that he studied medicine eh

This is not even mentioning that Don Moen's website contain ZERO information about him getting a medical degree.

Your case is sad and funny at the same time

SirWere:
This is exactly how conspiracy theorists reason you know.

SirWere:
How exactly do you "claim" to have a cranium

And you call yourself a medic

NLmember:
I am theist.
I made the very foolish mistake of being an atheist before but never ever again.


Am not mentioning my religion btw so don't bother asking. Am not going to have you speak crap against it in a bid to show that your atheism is better.

hopefulLandlord:
it would most likely be Akamu that you'll see inside

NLmember:
no

JackBizzle:
Yet most child molesters are christians- pastors, rev fathers and church goers.

In Islam pedophilia is very acceptable eg marrying young

analice107:
Do you consider yourself mean? That's giving yourself too much credit. You are far from mean, you are Stewpeed.

A destitute demon possessed living in darkness talking about enlightenment. I am about the only person on this platform who knows you folks for who you truly are.

Sons of perdition.

NLmember:
Your confused ranting doesn't apply to me abeg, am not a Christian.


Neither am I a Muslim before you rush to come up with anti Islamic stuff.

analice107:
Bring up a Child in a way he shd go...

What will an atheist teach my Child in my absence?

Won't he teach my Child to kill another child believing that, that child is just a bag of tissues without a purpose in life?

A person who believes a human being has no purpose, can do anything to another.

A person who feels he can get away from the law, can do anything to another person.

A person who believes there's no God to hold him accountable for his deeds, can do anything to hurt another.

Hopefullandlord proudly said its okay for him to be a homosexual for the singular reason that animals are. How can i a sane mother leave me baby to a person who i know can rape my kid?

How can i even consider having a person like that into my home, talk more of leaving my baby in the care of a person who believes he can have sex with my baby because animals do?

With what i know now, how can i take one step away leaving my child with a demon possessed man who flares up at the mention of Jesus?

It's insanity for any same Christian parent to do that.

Jesus says, "Love your neighbor as love yourself". He didn't say, " Love your neighbor more than you love yourself".

Let he who have ears hear what the Spirit is saying.

hahn:
The spirit of arrogant ignorance is dwelling in that one

NLmember:
Thanks for your honest reply.
Can you believe people were saying it's okay to trust them because character is what is important?
So which type of character is a person with undefined morals going to display for goodness sake?
Or everytime I meet atheists I should ask them to list out their what they think is good and bad?
Even if their character when we met appears to be good how am I sure they are not pretending and secretly doing some seriously evil plotting behind my back because it fits into their own personal definition of morals and ethics?
At least with Christians and Muslims you have an idea of what they fear, you can invoke God to appeal to their conscience if worse comes to worst.
Atheists have some shocking beliefs like incest is okay if both parties consent and use protection. Hahaha haha.

God forbid. I can never trust those species with anything dear to me.
No thank you.

Lennycool:
Chai!!
Logic died today

Lennycool:
This is just hubris.
Christians hardly share the same views on morality, same thing with Muslims.
Would you allow a random christian on the street to babysit your children?
Or a random Muslim?
I don't think so, hardly any one would be that stupid, Christians and Muslims alike commit child rape and murders, in fact the nigeria prison system is filled with theistic reprobates. Atheists are harder to find in jail.
You don't trust someone because they are Christian or Muslim. You trust them because you know them.
Same would happen if they were atheist or not.
Funny thing is most complaining here have never met an atheist in real life.

analice107:
Bring up a Child in a way he shd go...

What will an atheist teach my Child in my absence?

Won't he teach my Child to kill another child believing that, that child is just a bag of tissues without a purpose in life?

A person who believes a human being has no purpose, can do anything to another.

A person who feels he can get away from the law, can do anything to another person.

A person who believes there's no God to hold him accountable for his deeds, can do anything to hurt another.

Hopefullandlord proudly said its okay for him to be a homosexual for the singular reason that animals are. How can i a sane mother leave me baby to a person who i know can rape my kid?

How can i even consider having a person like that into my home, talk more of leaving my baby in the care of a person who believes he can have sex with my baby because animals do?

With what i know now, how can i take one step away leaving my child with a demon possessed man who flares up at the mention of Jesus?

It's insanity for any same Christian parent to do that.

Jesus says, "Love your neighbor as love yourself". He didn't say, " Love your neighbor more than you love yourself".

Let he who have ears hear what the Spirit is saying.