Pidgin2: I don't get it, so atheists are now fighting for pagans against Christians?
I thought atheists don't believe in any god or gods but pagans make any items into their god(s) so why the solidarity or am I to understand that they are actually affiliated to the same master?
[s]Meanwhile, this young man has just ruined his entire lineage to the 4th generation. It will come slowly but surely[/s]
And the gullible will eat this up continuously But they will still be hungry So the con men would always have to cook up some more shit more foolproof than the last
DoctorAlien: Indeed, professing to be wise, they became fools.
Was Mary not betrothed to Joseph(who was a GOD-fearing young man and who knew that GOD forbids pedophilia), ready to get married to him?
[s]Roman Catholicism is different from Christianity. The Pope is the antichrist, and you don't expect anything good from him, or from organizations which he engineered(e.g. JW).
[/s]A Christian lives his life according to the teachings of Christ. You see anyone not living according to the teachings of Christ? He's not a Christian then(Jn. 14:15).
dumb conspiracy theories don't take you far Look at how you are antagonizing your own Smh
hopefulLandlord: yes, who are you? Because on one hand you believe in the divine command theory, same thing they believe in; meaning you saw the slaughter of the amalekites and the Canaanite's Children as "GOOD" because your version of god commanded it but turn around and condemn a Muslim that detonates a bomb in the market place?
They believe Jesus died, I've never met a Muslim who's claimed Jesus didn't die, maybe you can tell me where a Muslim ever made that claim, I'll wait
And about "questionable" character, have you ever wondered why the Jews - who saw Jesus and interacted with him - don't believe in him?
Oh! You that came to the world almost 2000 years later must know better than them (The Jews), isn't it?
Is loving YOUR enemies good?
How is it good? Is it good because Jesus told you to OR Jesus told you cuz its good?
please chose your answer to the above very carefully
You claimed Divine Command Theory is ALWAYS valid
What basis have you then to claim someone carrying out the instructions of their god is bad? Since its also divine command?
And if your god asks you to kill someone, would you do it?
Actually there's been lots of terrorist acts carried out by Christians but I won't want to derail this conversation with that
Don't preach to me
So just like I expected you have NO reasonable point to make except the point I KNEW you would aka.......
Islam is wrong Because THEY SERVE THE WRONG GOD
can you see why Divine Command Theory is dumb?
destruction of Canaan is right because MY god commanded it
destruction of Amalekite is right because MY god commanded it
God killing 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21) is right because MY god did it
when He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3) its right because MY god commanded it
When He ordered another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses (Joshua 6) its right because its MY god
when he in Judges 21 ordered the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken, It was right because its MY god
when they wanted more virgins God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife; it is right because MY god commanded it
bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9) is right because MY god commanded it
like I said, WE are the only ones with the right to criticise any religion
anyone who accepts divine command theory is always right has ceded his/her right to criticise any destructions ordered by other gods or religion because they also believe in that same theory as yours
WE atheists however are moral consequentialist/moral relativist/Humanist etc have that right because we didn't see any Allah bombing himself or Yahweh performing the crusades or ambushing virgins
what we see are humans using their books as excuses
alBHAGDADI: Islam supports pedophilia. Mohammed was one himself, cos He married Aisha at age 6 and had sex with her when she clocked 9yrs. That is why child marriage is common in the islamic world.
well to be fair the bible wasn't clear on child marriage or paedophilia either Not to mention some Muslims would tell you that's in the hadith and the Koran has the final say. They view the Koran as infallible not the hadith And btw Child marriage was not addressed in the bible either Do you know what it is when a muslim and christians argue A liar criticising a thief A clear cut case of pot calling kettle black
MrPresident1: [s]Let us exercise a bit more patience my brother, after all, we all have been waiting over 2,000years. We will know whose delusion is the right delusion
When you see your eternal destiny, your final home , you will see your mummy and call her your daddy lmaoooo [/s]
just shut If you still haven't learnt your lesson Then shut up
so what basis have you to criticise Islam? since they'll say same about their own version of god?
below is a former quote of yours
so this shows you're a hypocrite to criticise Islam
to prove this beyond doubt I'll paraphrase your words by replacing God with Allah, then see why there's suicide bombing and destructions everywhere
an Islamic suicide bomber would say
Allah is not subjected to man's moral standard. He is the moral standard that we reference. And since He is good, he cannot command anything that is not Good. We are just too limited in out understanding to see all of His commands as good.
your only excuse, just like Sam Harris said when he killed William Laine Craig with these points of mine is that Muslims are worshipping "the wrong god" but who are you to make such a pronouncement?
this is what I've been trying to point out They said I'm favouring Islam
alBHAGDADI: [s]Most of them aren't even Muslims but Core Satanists who love to support anything that is against Christianity.
They claim that Christians persecute Gays just cos we preach against such abnormal act. Pls, ask them to tell you if they have ever condemned Muslim ISIS for throwing Gays from skyscrapers and killing them. When are they going to condemn Islamic kidnap of under age Christian or atheist girls and also pedophilia in Islam? When are they going to tell Muslims to stage a protest against the terrorists that Muslims love to claim are giving islam a bad name? When are they going to complain about how islam is given a preferential treatment of having their own private section that shields them from criticism?[/s]
bullshit Show me where I favoured Islam or where I didn't criticise Islam in this post so I can take you seriously
rhektor: Now it is becoming obvious that majority of these self acclaimed nairaland atheists aren't atheists in the true/right sense of the word atheism but Muslims pretending to be atheists Seun inclusive. If not when the hawk has taken the chick of a hen what is the problem with human in birds fighting with birds? Why would a self acclaimed atheist be interested in what a christian has said about Islam and not those gibberish the islamists have be saying about Christianity? Now we can see them through and through. Keep hiding behind atheism Ramdomperson , jonbellion , Oga Seun , Benzic & Co
MrMontella: Why are these christians masturbatin.g on this thread
He's met wit the pope before so whats special in it?
I just don't understand I believe the pope has met with people of other faiths same with the Dalai lama. What's so special there When you think these people can't get anymore confusing they break their record in stupidity yet again
micmarvellous: [s]Just wait a minute and wonder if actually the old woman flew into the church... A lot of you know NOTHING bout spiritual/demonic manipulations especially by the so called old men and women.. It all depends on the kinda community you're coming from.. Witches are so heartless that they can eat 8 of their children in the spirit realm and choose to live alone in solitary pain and suffering in the physical so people can count them weak and feel sorry for them while the devil delights in their exploits.. Someone will come back hale and hearty to christmas from the states (for example) and go to greet his elderly kinsmen/women and wouldn't see the light of the next day.. What killed him?.. You guys know NOTHING! Bout life in the spiritual and high places.. She garnering your pity, emotions, and all that.. Someone said if she's truly a witch she would do something to them...looooool That shows your level of mediocrity!.. Even our Lord Jesus Christ on the cross didn't call on the host of angels for revenge or attack.. These things are things of the spirit!.. Beware of your so called old men and women in the village! Some of you are so chicken minded and light brained that every information easily sway your mind, christians especially.. Take time to pray and be a prophet to your nation![/s]
what nonsense is this In 2017 Smh It is people like you that make the African countries regarded as third world nations
benzics: So you are saying the ten commandments are not for the rest of the world but the Israelites alone?
this is how they confuse themselves This is what happens when you want to eat your cake and have it I'm ready for this people today I have some time on my hands
alBHAGDADI: The Bible ordered the Israelite nation to kill their enemies. It didn't in anyway say Christians or people of other nations should kill their enemies, instead it said we should love and pray for our enemies.
Good! What right do you have to judge Islam when your god also commanded mass genocide and slaughter of innocents, causing mayhem in the land of Canaan. A land that was not thiers. Do you realise that if they were alive in the modern day you would be here condemning their acts. Please on this basis alone what is the difference between Yahweh and Allah. Jesus is still Yahweh right so he can't run out of this. You guys treat jesus asif he's nit Yahweh when he himself claimed to be Yahweh The irony is that the Jewish, christian and muslim god are the sane deity
benzics: OH so you're saying the old testament are not for Christians, are you also saying you don't worship yahweh /Jehovah (old testament god)? And why do you pay tithe that is in the old testament if it is not for Christians? Just answer the Damn questions!
jcross19: I understand your pain okay!!!now you talk christian which is the basic of our argument now during that you quoted is there any evidence that show that those old testaments were christians because we are talking about christians.
but as hopefullandlord pointed out you operate under divine command theory. Basically if God commanded such you wont see a problem with it. And Jesus is also god in the flesh right . Which means he was always there even during the OT laws Are you seeing how your religion has boxed itself into a tight hole
benzics: Nobody is protecting Muslims and their terrorist acts, we are basically saying, you can't go around constituting violence and at the same time insulting and calling Islam violent, I remember anas09 saying that what Muslims do to homosexuals is GOOD.. This is a Christian supporting the Muslim terrorist act that pleases her, but will go about criticizing the ones she don't like..
Christians are the most hateful, 89% Christians are hateful beings, am saying this with experience, on the other hand, upto 75% Muslims are hateful, and maybe violent.. All the hate speeches against homos and atheists made on the internet are almost all by Christians..
this is the point over been trying to make I didn't see any of these muslim bashing christians like alBHAGADI and his crew condemning the act of their fellow christians stoning a helpless old woman. I swear if it was a muslim that did that they would be masturbating all over that thread. This is the hypocrisy I'm pointing out One christian idiot even quoted the bible verse "suffer not a witch to live"
What else? Are you going to use the no true Scots fallacy?
I cant believe that dude though He's being bias None of the religions are right Islam and Christianity have bleeped up Both of them have their fair share of violence Or hasn't he observed christian hate speech When hate speech is said it actually shows your views towards the person and what you wish you would be able to do. I saw a video of a christian pastor wishing they could build a wall put all the homosexuals on the other side and electrocute them. I honestly do not see the diffewnce between such a person and an ISIS militant The thing is that if the Abrahamic God approved of all these things christians wouldn't have anything to say against it The proof of already there when they try and justify the old testament
Godstraight: you are still dancing round the bush am not seeing the Christian Isis, the Christian bokoharam,you keep talking about Christians critizing Islam,you forget Muslims who are killing christain s in the middle east ,so you want to turn a blind eye to that?,or are you going to deny the persecution of Christians in the middle east,do you know that Christianity wds once the biggest religion in the middle east,do you know that middle east Christians are a dying breed?even refugees going to Europe are throwing Christians into the sea on their way to Rome,and you talking hypocrisy the real one would when Christians start killing the Muslim back like that evangelist in kano,I doubt you even give a f*ck right?and you want them not to criticize Muslims because of the old testament ,when they are killed and displaced they should fight back ,because one comfortable atheist somewhere think it is islamophobia?baba make I hear word
where did I say... * sigh * Facepalm There are also christian terrorist groups like the lords chosen army in Uganda and the klu klux klan. But that's not the point. I never said christians are more violent than Muslims I never said they should not challenge Islam. Islam as a religion like i have bag saying is backward in basically every aspect if human affairs I am just saying its hypocrisy to link all.muslims to terrorism and then make all manner of excuses when it is pointed out that christians have committed such too.Christians have carried out suicide attacks on behalf of the Popular Front For the Liberation Of Palestine ( Robert F. Kennedy was murdered by a Christian Palestinian) Why don't you condemn aerial bombing which rubbles entire nations and is mostly employed by christians and Jews and causes far more collateral damage. Is it actually worse than suicide bombing. Have your ever condemned Israel's constant war with Palestine. Did you condemn Christian president George Bushs invasion of Iraq with the accusation of them harboring WMDs and none of the sort was found. For the last time it is not a bad thing to speak against Islam and it's backward views. It however is a bad thing to -shove all Muslims in the sane category And -rationalise with the most ridiculous things when it is pointed out that your religion has been guilty of such if not worse I condemn the killing of christians in the middle east by Muslims. Do you realise that in the West much of these incidents also happen and are carried out by islamophobic people towards Muslims but the media never focuses on such. This is the fucking hypocrisy I'm talking about. If you still don't get my point after I've broken it down like this them I don't know what to tell you again You can criticise Islam without being an islamophobe How is this hard to understand
Godstraight: at the end it doesn't matter, there is someone out there being killed because of his believe in the Muslim world, whether you like or not ,what I want is just a peaceful world ,and most of our problem stern from the Muslim world ,I don't care whatever maltreated you think they receive you receive "200fold" whatever persecution you think they receive,whatever nonsense "islamphobia" you think they get,no not all Muslims are bad,only fools will say that ,my current roommate is a Muslim and he is the coolest guy I know,but the heat is on them because they need to fix their shit,imagine a world without Isis,a Nigeria without bokoharam?,Bros reason na now
but do you realise the terrorists also wreak havoc on Muslims too How then would the christians justify this In the old testament the christian God commanded his followers to commit mass genocide. if they also started killing there fellow isrealites would you say they were given such instructions from God I am not a muslim I have a lot of problems with the religion Things like: Sharia law The way women are treated Apostasy laws scientific absurdities in the Quran Mohammed's phedophilia Violence And condemnation of unbelievers to eternal damnation But when it comes to terrorism it's just sheer hypocrisy because these people also terrorise the same Muslims you claim they get their commands from Don't be a hypocrite like the christians. The christians justify the old testament but the have the right to be talking bullshit about Islam and terrorism Isreal have been at war with Palestine. They have used over 1200 Palestinians as human shields in that case it's for political reasons but when a terrorist idiot takes lives even of fellow Muslims he's doing it in the name of thier religion If christians want to critise Islam I have no problem with that of only they can call a spade a spade and critise thier religious absurdities when need be. Jesus said he didn't come to being peace but a sword. Do you realise from that single bible verse a radical christian group can come along There was an elderly woman being stoned for being a witch by christians. You don't see the NL christians on such thread. But I can bet that if it was a Muslim that did such they would be foaming over the mouth of how Islam supports such Haba na This is hypocrisy Look at the comments of a christian idiot on that thread. Religion is bad because it is the umbrella that all these lunatics hide under to commit despicable acts. But its not like that for the christians. They look at the whole thing as religious supremacy.... Who has the better imaginary friend proving once again that religion divides more than it unites
Godstraight: I don't see Christians rediculing Hindus,Buddhist why is this ,there is a research about the most persecuted religious group in the world and there are Christians and other religious minorities in the middle east,and the muslim world,and you are complaining about Christians persecuting Muslims, and site examples on the internet?anti-muslim thrends in nairaland,go to YouTube and see religious persecution if you want to protest them rather stop being an hypocrite,I repeat you atheist can't live in Muslim dominated countries
why are you not understanding this thing na A christian like alBHAGADI says all Muslims are potential terrorists.Islam is a collection of ideas and beliefs, and, like all religions, should be criticized by rational people. When dislike of Islam takes the form of mindless irrational hatred based on cultural stereotypes, however, it becomes Islamophobia Are you seeing the diffence No athiest has made such an idiotic generalisation of all christians because of what a few did You can criticise the region religion without being a bigot That's what I mean I can say the religion of Islam is primitive and backward and needs a reformation It becomes stupid when I start to say all muslins are rapists terrorists because Mohammed was one And that is exactly what the christians do
alBHAGDADI: [s]Typical of atheists...Insult christian while the islamic religion disripting world peace is left alone by them simply because they know allah is their master satan.
Pls, just state it that it is only christianity you want to bash, cos i wonder why you would overlook the death for apostasy law of islam.
Dont you get it by now? The christians that do terrible things never tell you that they did those things in the name of their religion. It's just like a group of people who are christians go rob a house and killed the occupant. If caught, they will never tell you it was done in the name of their God or the bible commands it. They will tell you they did it simply because of greed and laziness- thats what it is.
But muslims do evil and back it up with the quran. Heck, they even scream allahu akbaaar when perpetrating it. You really need to read their quran to see that all the evil they do are commanded in the book. Any christian that takes mathew 11:12 and commits violence with it is obviously an illiterate like you. The verse is talking about THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, not earth. Maybe thats why no christian group has ever committed violence with it.
Mathew 11:12
From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and violent people have been raiding it. What about the right to have sex with 2 month old babies?
Whatever you see in the bible is either taken out of context. Maybe thats why no christian commits evil using those verses.
But muslims know too well that the commands in the quran are for all times, mostly for this period. Thats why they are on a rampage. I wonder why i would take a verse out of context then go blow myself up alongside innocent people.[/s]
Mr man Groups like the Hindu Tamil Tigers have undertaken some 400 suicide bombings, the Japanese Kamikaze wereShinto/Buddhists not to mention Christians have carried out suicide attacks on behalf of the Popular Front For the Liberation Of Palestine ( Robert F. Kennedy was murdered by a Christian Palestinian) Why don't you condemn aerial bombing which rubbles entire nations and is mostly employed by christians and Jews and causes far more collateral damage. Is it actually worse than suicide bombing. Have your ever condemned Israel's constant war with Palestine. Did you condemn Christian president George Bushs invasion of Iraq with the accusation of them harboring WMDs and none of the sort was found. He said god told him to Israel has used Palestinian civilians as human shields at least 1200 times. Dude it is better to call a spade a spade and criticise religion fairly than being an islamophobe You are an islamophobe that is different from the actual criticism of Islam Saying things like all Muslims are terrorists and the ones that aren't are not yet activated is extremely stupid and myopic of you
hopefulLandlord: I'm actually asking Christians who are in a habit of criticising Islam the below questions
it seems all they can muster is answering it with questions of their own and not attempting to even directly answer it
the can of worms these questions would open is apparently too uncomfortable for them and they see it from a mile away
lol I observed it The op was trying to evade Lmao They shouldn't even be condemning Islam because if their god commanded them to di worse they would not see a problem
alBHAGDADI: [s]Islamophobia is a word i hear almost everyday now, on the streets and in the news (mostly CNN, BBC and Aljazeera). Before we go into the meaning of Islamophobia, we have to first of all consider the fact that the word is a combination of 2 words- Islam and Phobia. We all know what Islam is, they call it a religion of peace. Phobia, on the other hand, means a fear of something.
If am afraid of heights, I can say i have a phobia for heights. This means that i will always ensure that i stay off high grounds. If it is a fear of driving i have, i can say i have phobia for driving. This means that i will avoid ever driving.
To musims, Islamophobia means a fear of Islam, while Islamophobe is a person who has fear of islam in him. That is the name Muslims love to call anyone who speaks or criticizes islam genuinely. I believe they are using the word wrongly. If i say that I have a phobia for heights and am seen smiling while jumping off a flying helicopter with a parachute, can anyone believe that i have such phobia? No. Since Islamophobia is a fear of Islam, if i criticize Islam and someone calls me an islamophobe, the person needs to check himself for using the word wrongly. How can you call someone that challenges Islam an Islamophobe?
I believe the word Islamophobe should only be used on people who cant speak up against Islam's terrorism and backward ways due to fear of being beheaded or persecuted, not people who are bold enough and show no fear in challenging it.[/s]
lol you are an lslamophobe You can criticise Islam without being an islamophobe which unfortunately you do not do. Pls don't compare religous criticism and islamophobia
alBHAGDADI: Typical of atheists...Insult christian while the islamic religion disripting world peace is left alone by them simply because they know allah is their master satan.
Pls, just state it that it is only christianity you want to bash, cos i wonder why you would overlook the death for apostasy law of islam.
Dont you get it by now? The christians that do terrible things never tell you that they did those things in the name of their religion. It's just like a group of people who are christians go rob a house and killed the occupant. If caught, they will never tell you it was done in the name of their God or the bible commands it. They will tell you they did it simply because of greed and laziness- thats what it is.
But muslims do evil and back it up with the quran. Heck, they even scream allahu akbaaar when perpetrating it. You really need to read their quran to see that all the evil they do are commanded in the book. Any christian that takes mathew 11:12 and commits violence with it is obviously an illiterate like you. The verse is talking about THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, not earth. Maybe thats why no christian group has ever committed violence with it.
Mathew 11:12
From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and violent people have been raiding it. What about the right to have sex with 2 month old babies?
Whatever you see in the bible is either taken out of context. Maybe thats why no christian commits evil using those verses.
But muslims know too well that the commands in the quran are for all times, mostly for this period. Thats why they are on a rampage. I wonder why i would take a verse out of context then go blow myself up alongside innocent people.
Mr man show me where I supported Islam in this write up. What I am simply saying is that it's hypocrisy for an islamophobe like yourself to constantly attack Islam and start complaining when YOUR religion is being ridiculed. Both religions are bullcrap.Islam is a collection of ideas and beliefs, and, like all religions, should be criticized by rational people. When dislike of Islam takes the form of mindless irrational hatred based on cultural stereotypes, however, it becomes Islamophobia which btw is exactly what you christians notably your moniker portrays Are you seeing now that criticising Islam and islamophobia are NOT the same thing
Christianity Etc › Re: Man Destroys Bible As A Revenge For Destruction Of Shrine In Anambra By A Priest by jonbellion(m): 7:54am On Jan 29, 2017
