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KingEbukasBlog:
[s]Atheism is based on the emotional mind and ignorance . Why do you think most unintelligent people are atheist ? Huh ? Explain that ? Why did the few intelligent atheists like Richard Dawkins and Alan Turing become one after losing a loved one ? You became an atheist because are indignant God did not help you . Explain why most people become atheist after a tragic or traumatic event in their life ?

Let me explain : Our emotions have a mind of their own . In fact , man had two minds : the rational and the emotional mind . The rational mind is of the neocortex , or the thinking brain - this brain helps us make sense of whatever we experience . The emotional brain which is a repository of our emotional reactions can function independent of the neocortex or rational mind . We can hold emotional memories without any sort of active cognitive participation or involvement . We can also hold opinions about lots of things without any conscious awareness .

So what's my point : you are an atheist because of your emotional mind not your rational mind . Your opinion about God is a product of your emotional mind apparently . Why do you think arguments against Gods existence are based on emotions like : why do people suffer , why do the innocent die , why God can't stop some bad things from happening , God is not a good God because he killed or punished people severely or why would a good God punish people in Hell ? These arguments were made based on the atheist emotions not rationality . Do you still doubt ? It is possible Stephen Hawking is most likely an atheist because of his condition , most Nairaland atheists including you are atheists because they sought help and none came ; Richard Dawkins became a rabid atheist because his daughter died , Alan Turing became an atheist after his girl friend died . These people couldn't handle these situations with equanimity and their emotional minds are speaking out not their rational minds .

Have you ever wondered why the greatest minds in the history of mankind acknowledged the existence of God and why some of these greatest minds rejected the notion of a personal God ? The ones who rejected the concept of a personal God precluded being overwhelmed by thoughts from their emotional minds so they decided that God does not intervene in the affairs of men because they clearly understood the logical consequences of outrightly repudiating the existence of God .

Don't pontificate next time and stop attempting to attach rationality and logic to atheism . Great minds like Newton , Edison , Einstein , Plato , Socrates , Xenophanes , Planck , Lincoln , Leibniz and so many others are turning in their grave whenever you do so . Choose deism if you can't handle theism .[/s]

InsanePsycho:
Check my siggy

CriticMaestro:
“[s]The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who – in their grudge against traditional religion as the ‘opium of the masses’ – cannot hear the music of the spheres.”

—Albert Einstein

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“God created everything by number, weight and measure.”

“In the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of God’s existence.”

“I have a fundamental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those who were inspired. I study the Bible daily.”

—Sir Isaac Newton, who is widely regarded to have been the greatest scientist the world has ever produced.

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“Both religion and science require a belief in God. For believers, God is in the beginning, and for physicists He is at the end of all considerations… To the former He is the foundation, to the latter, the crown of the edifice of every generalized world view.”

“There can never be any real opposition between religion and science; for the one is the complement of the other. Every serious and reflective person realizes, I think, that the religious element in his nature must be recognized and cultivated if all the powers of the human soul are to act together in perfect balance and harmony. And indeed it was not by accident that the greatest thinkers of all ages were deeply religious souls.”

—Max Planck, the Nobel Prize winning physicist who made the crucial scientific contribution of founding quantum physics. Planck was a member of the Lutheran Church in Germany.

Religion and Natural Science (Lecture Given 1937) Scientific Autobiography and Other Papers, trans. F. Gaynor (New York, 1949), pp. 184

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“Jesus appeared to the disciples after the resurrection in various forms. He appeared to Mary Magdalene so that they might take him for a gardener. Very ingeniously these manifestation of Jesus is to our minds difficult to penetrate. (He appears) as a gardener. The gardener plants seedlings in prepared soil. The soil must exert a physical and chemical influence so that the seed of the plant can grow. Yet this is not sufficient. The warmth and light of the sun must be added, together with rain, in order that growth may result. The seed of supernatural life, of sanctifying grace, cleanses from sin, so preparing the soul of man, and man must seek to preserve this life by his good works. He still needs the supernatural food, the body of the Lord, which received continually, develops and brings to completion of the life. So natural and supernatural must unite to the realization of the holiness to the people. Man must contribute his minimum work of toil, and God gives the growth. Truly, the seed, the talent, the grace of God is there, and man has simply to work, take the seeds to bring them to the bankers. So that we “may have life, and abundantly“.

—Gregor Mendel, who is regarded as “the father of modern genetics,” partly due to his pioneering work on plant hybridization. Mendel was also an Augustinian friar (Catholic priest). The above is an excerpt from an Easter sermon which he delivered.

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“This sense of wonder leads most scientists to a Superior Being – der Alte, the Old One, as Einstein affectionately called the Deity – a Superior Intelligence, the Lord of all Creation and Natural Law.”

—Abdus Salam, winner of the 1979 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work in electroweak theory. He is here quoted in his article entitled Science and Religion.

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“I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence. Believe me, everything that we call chance today won’t make sense anymore. To me it is clear that we exist in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”

–Michio Kaku, theoretical physicist and string theory pioneer.

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“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power.”

–Nikola Tesla, the inventor and futurist scientist known for numerous inventions, but best known for his contributions to the design of the modern alternating current (AC) electrical supply system. Tesla was the winner of: Edison Medal (1916); Elliott Cresson Medal (1894); John Scott Medal (1934)

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“I have looked into most philosophical systems and I have seen that none will work without God.”

“Science is incompetent to reason upon the creation of matter itself out of nothing. We have reached the utmost limit of our thinking faculties when we have admitted that because matter cannot be eternal and self-existent it must have been created.”

—Physicist and mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, who is credited with formulating classical electromagnetic theory and whose contributions to science are considered to be of the same magnitude to those of Einstein and Newton.

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“For myself, faith begins with a realization that a supreme intelligence brought the universe into being and created man. It is not difficult for me to have this faith, for it is incontrovertible that where there is a plan there is intelligence—an orderly, unfolding universe testifies to the truth of the most majestic statement ever uttered—-‘In the beginning God.'”

“Science can have no quarrel with a religion which postulates a God to whom men are His children.”

—Arthur Compton, winner of the 1927 Nobel Prize in Physics for his discovery of the Compton Effect.

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“Those who say that the study of science makes a man an atheist must be rather silly.”

“Something which is against natural laws seems to me rather out of the question because it would be a depressive idea about God. It would make God smaller than he must be assumed. When he stated that these laws hold, then they hold, and he wouldn’t make exceptions. This is too human an idea. Humans do such things, but not God.”

–Nobel Prize winning physicist Max Born, who was instrumental in the development of quantum mechanics.

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“God is a mathematician of a very high order and He used advanced mathematics in constructing the universe.”

–Nobel Prize winning physicist Paul A. M. Dirac, who made crucial early contributions to both quantum mechanics and quantum electrodynamics.

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“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”

“In the history of science, ever since the famous trial of Galileo, it has repeatedly been claimed that scientific truth cannot be reconciled with the religious interpretation of the world. Although I am now convinced that scientific truth is unassailable in its own field, I have never found it possible to dismiss the content of religious thinking as simply part of an outmoded phase in the consciousness of mankind, a part we shall have to give up from now on. Thus in the course of my life I have repeatedly been compelled to ponder on the relationship of these two regions of thought, for I have never been able to doubt the reality of that to which they point.”

—Werner Heisenberg, who was awarded the 1932 Nobel Prize in Physics for the creation of quantum mechanics (which is absolutely crucial to modern science).

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“I’m not an atheist, and I don’t think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the books but doesn’t know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.” [Italics are mine]

—Albert Einstein, as cited in Antony Flew’s book, There Is A God: How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind[/s][s][/s].

Pidgin2:
In John 1:18 the word of God says "No one has ever seen God but the one and only son

Acts 7:15 Full of the Holy Spirit gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at His right side

1 king 18:46

The power of the Lord came on Elijah and tucking his cloak into his belt he ran ahead of Ahab all the way to Jezreel

The Holy Spirit empowers people to do extraordinary things. No one on his own has ever seen God or gone to heaven where God recides unless God unites himself with man and the two become one.

1 cor 6:17 but whosoever is United with God is one with Him in spirit

niyihawking:
you've graduated finally

mrmrmister:
I thought you were a deist.

CriticMaestro:
The only one true God which the christians worship

skeendyke:
Oga, rant begat rant. Question is a rant, answer is a rant....what's the problem?

skeendyke:
[s]Christians, do you now see why it is wisdom not to cast your pearls before swine?

Jesus never explained any mystery to the Pharisees and Saducees knowing who they were and their pattern of thinking. Rather, He confused them further by speaking to them in parables and figures of speech. Even though Christ did not offer them His pearl of wisdom we all know the Pharisees believed in the existence of God and they quoted from the Scriptures. How much more Atheists who don't believe in the existence of God, who grope in the dark and stumble lIke the Pharisees because having eyes they will not see and ears but they will not hear?

I could easily provide explanations from the Word of God in addition to the ones already given but I will never make that mistake seeing that this nairaland herd of swine feel super intelligent and on top of the world when rolling in the mud of their ignorance. It is their true nature even when they appear to leave the mud, the mud will not leave them as they are inseparable. Whenever I see them having the time of their lives, rolling and basking in the mud of their ignorance as they are doing in this thread, I can only tell them, "knock yourselves out" [/s]

CriticMaestro:
I believe in God because it''s the most logial explanation of events

Muafrika2:
Of course

- Hitler
- Mao Tse something and the massacres of the communist atheists
- Karl Max and his Soviet murderers

Just to mention afew -

CriticMaestro:
you dont believe in God because u claim u are thinker and yet u have no logical explanation to nature, u just believe everything shaped itself from dust and pieces, who shaped the dust?? are u really thinking or is d devil doing it for u??huh

DoctorAlien:
You are one of the most unintelligent "freethinkers" I've met on this forum. The magnitude of the stupidity of the questions you ask is staggering. I mean, to think that you claim that you once had anything to do with Christians is currently impossible for me.

Please, go and work on your comprehension before you quote me. Unintelligent questions are not meant to be answered.

CriticMaestro:
that's fine, but can u prove how the human being came into existence? forget evolution, that theory has already been quashed by scientists

CriticMaestro:
funny enough, the most bonifide of atheist were once christians who were in trouble and prayed to God to save them or change their situation but when that did not happen the stop believing...lemme ask u, do u believe there are demons, evil spirits, magic etc?

CriticMaestro:
it's fine really cuz i've argued muslims before and i know where they are coming from but u guyz i just cant imagine..lemme ask u a simple question to u atheist, try and answer it honestly please, when u were 10 years old what did u believe in?

CriticMaestro:
Answer: In John 3:13 Jesus says to Nicodemus, “No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven–the Son of Man.” This verse is somewhat difficult to interpret and is often misunderstood. It is also frequently used by those who want to find contradictions in the Bible.

We must keep the verse in context. In verses 10-12, especially, we see that Jesus is talking about His authority and the validity of His teaching. Jesus tells Nicodemus that He has been teaching what He knew firsthand: “We speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen” (verse 11). Then, in verse 13 Jesus explains why He is uniquely qualified to teach of the kingdom of God—namely, because He alone came down from heaven and possesses the knowledge to teach people about heaven. Jesus alone has seen the Father, and He alone is qualified to declare God and make Him known (John 1:18).

The gist of John 3:13 is this: “None of your earthly teachers can really teach you about heaven, because none of them have actually been there. However, I have been there. In fact, it is My home. I have come to you from heaven, and I have brought with Me experiential knowledge of that place. My testimony carries weight; I can tell you the truth about salvation.” The NLT brings out the meaning well: “No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man has come down from heaven.”

In claiming a heavenly abode, Jesus was claiming deity. Nicodemus himself had already admitted that Jesus was extraordinary when he said, “We know you are a teacher who has come from God” (verse 2).

Jesus was not teaching that no one had ever gone to heaven before. Obviously, the Old Testament saints had gone to heaven (or paradise) when they died (Mark 12:26-27), and Enoch and Elijah had been taken there without dying (Genesis 5:24; Hebrews 11:5; 2 Kings 2:11). Rather, He was teaching that, of all rabbis, He had the best credentials. Jesus has direct contact with heaven; He is an expert on the subject.

Jeromejnr:
[s]The answer to your silly question is very obvious.

But guess what?

I wont even waste my time explaining nothing to you folks because it wont even change anything.

If you havent gotten the foundational knowledge of Christ coming into the world and paying the price for your sins, how will your blind eyes see deeper into them advanced wisdom of God.

Quote me and I wont even bother to answer[/s]

CriticMaestro:
post ur qurstion very well

CriticMaestro:
are u an atheist or a muslim?

akintom:
never expect sensible comment from someone, whose intelligence is on life support.

akintom:
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

The nazarene was a deluded miscreants that hadly got mentioned, in the historical documentation of the scholars, who lived about the very time that the delusionist was claimed to have lived.

The christards will rather impale massively, than submit that the whole buy-bull is a crap.

Omudia:
Firstly, do you believe that Christ Jesus came down from heaven?

felixomor:
Sorry
Correct the spellings in your thread topic....

hopefulLandlord:
There are NO good arguments for theism that's not self refuting or not involving leap of faith or not jumping several hoops or not commuting lots of fallacies on the way

That's why theists (especially those on Nairaland) claim they argue for theism but a simple look shows they're actually arguing for deism