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Jack65:[b]Absolutely, I was telling someone just this morning how the rise of Pentecostalism started during the great 'depression' of the late 80s and the early 90s. The gap between the Rich and Poor was so much that the middle class was wiped off. It was essentially the Very Rich and the Poor. (By the way, I believe with the directionless administration Buhari has convinced us he is skilled at leading, we might be going that path again.) So back in those years, people in their despair turned to God for hope. It was a simple message, "God can take your sorrow away". Very effective! Ministeries sprang up overnight and fanaticism grew. Once, my girl, interestingly an agnostic, jokingly told me to go into Christian ministry and make some cool cash for ourselves. We know the way these things work. The tricks used, we know. The fakeness utilized, we are aware. Whatever is left, Youtube can help us with, including the mannerisms to use on the gullible and get us to have enough 'hope' to give to the masses in exchange for filthy lucre. But to what end? That's why when religious bigots accuse us of obsession with God, I can only laugh. I have no need to be obsessed with their imaginary figure, I am a patriot who among other things want a better country for my kids and people I would never meet. "Bi ara ile eni ba nje kokoro buburu, bi a ko ba so fun, huru-here re ko ni jeki a sun loru." "If a member of one's household is eating a poisonous food, it is better to warn him/her; otherwise the repercussion might be sleepless nights for everyone."[/b] |
STOP LIVING IN FEAR Religious people live their lives in fear and that's what I dislike the most. Fear is what I dislike because it limits us and our curiosity. A religious person threatening me with death makes no difference because to be honest, I am sincerely looking forward to dying. I am not afraid of anything after that; even if I was in heaven, I'd still want to go see what happens in hell and nobody can stop me from being curious. I see pastors threaten religious people that's why they pay tithes like slaves; dare your pulpit hustler, don't pay tithes and nothing will happen. I repeat: nothing will happen. Try it! |
Jack65: This is beyond sad. The suggestion part is so true. A guy with the username HardMirror mentioned somewhere how he was very effective in the art of suggestion and how he used it in his proselytizing days. One of the unfortunate implication is how it will add to the resolve of thousands of listeners in the belief that power to change their lives lies outside of themselves. I did my NYSC in Abuja, so yes I know how popular that programme is. Thanks for sharing buddy, and hopefully the little we are doing in our little circle of influence will one day reach a tipping point and change things in the psyche of people in this country. |
OUR AWESOME PLANET There are many things in this world that fill me with awe. Things that are so extraordinary, so difficult to comprehend, that they seem unbelievable. For example, the Apollo missions that sent 12 men to walk on the moon using less computer power than I have in my washing machine. Or the Airbus A380 that can carry 850 passengers, 8,500 miles at 85% of the speed of sound. Or contemplating the size and age of the universe and the incredible number of galaxies and stars. Or the fact that billions of my fellow human beings, by far the most intelligent species on the planet, sincerely believe they talk with an invisible being who watches everything they do; who created the entire universe and life on Earth in a matter or days and is preoccupied with the need for men to excise their foreskins. That could be the most awesome thing of all. |
Sometimes we kill out of hate. Sometimes we kill out of love. But only God kills millions he loves, out of disappointment. |
stephenmorris:Dude is infuriated you used a logic that is visible to the blind. LOL. We all use people's examples all the time, no big deal. When someone continues to hack at such insignificant things, you can be sure he is no longer looking within himself to refute a claim, it's all about obfuscation for them from thereon. Great job, bro. |
Ovie Ejaria vs Chelsea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paKxuzruZxo cc: tbaba1234, thegoodjoe |
[b]ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS, FORWARD MUSLIM ARMY By Professor Pius Adesanmi I always wonder why, of all the faiths through which humanity has expressed spirituality across the ages, Christianity and Islam have always offered the worst ambassadors of the two prophets whose holy names they purport to profess. Last week, in America, legions of earthly ambassadors of Jesus Christ, who profess guns, the American flag, Fox News, and Jesus Christ in that order of importance, descended on Cleveland. This category of ambassadors of Christ tends to disturb the peace of the rest of us with high-decibel proclamation of family values and other ingredients of fundamentalist Christianity - especially if such Christianity allows for white racial supremacy. Then we hear news that the moment these fundamentalist ambassadors of Christ checked into their hotel rooms in Cleveland, there was a noticeable spike in pay-per-view demands for pornographic films. Porn channels experienced a boom in Cleveland last week and are now lamenting the departure of the family values Christians... These American fundamentalist Christians also regularly invade places like Uganda, Nigeria, Zimbabwe and other countries in Africa where the persecution of gays is rife. They pump money into such countries to strengthen the heavy hand of Christianity in the persecution of gays. The only problem is that, often, their Pastors in America get tired of living a double life. Then, they come out of the closet... Only God knows how many fundamentalist American Pastors secretly rejoice whenever another state legalizes marijuana. In Nigeria, the Muslim kinsmen of American Christian fundamentalists are some of the worst ambassadors of the Holy Prophet that Islam has to offer, especially those in public office. They steal public money all the time to go to Mecca. Then they return and hide from the Muslim ummah. They waste public funds in breaking beer bottles because they don't like alcohol. Yet a significant part of the allocation they collect from the centre is from VAT on alcohol. None of them has ever been able to reject the percentage of their revenue which comes from tax on alcohol. The irony is that part of the money they steal to go to Mecca comes from tax on alcohol. Now we hear that in Kano, they have successfully killed the establishment of a film village because of the "moral laxity" of Nollywood and film in general. In the mammy markets of the north - zones where alcohol and prostitutes are allowed - the open secret is that those who really keep the businesses going are not Igbo and Yoruba infidels. For much of my undergraduate years, I spent my vacations with my Uncle in Sokoto. Every saturday, we would hit mammy market to drink beer and peppersoup. Between 6pm and 11 pm, the customers would mostly be southerners - Igbo, Yoruba, and other infidels from the south. After midnight, well, the shons of the shoil would start to arrive in disguise. Alhajis coming to drink alcohol and check on the well-being of prostitutes... Some of them would pour the beer into plastic kettles. If you could be a fly on the wall of those who shot down the film village idea in Kano, you'd find clerics who become something else after midnight. You'd find puritanical Hisbah officers who return as midnight customers to the same beer parlours they hound during the day. Why are Christianity and Islam so adept at attracting these kinds of ambassadors?[/b] |
[b]YES, SOME PORTIONS OF SCRIPTURE INSPIRES ME A good friend of mine challenged me to declare what portions of scripture inspire me. I am pleased to inform him that I subscribe to the christian philosophy that preaches that each man or woman be judged by their own conscience. Winner01, this is a good time to take notes. ![]() What would Jesus have said to a man caught sleeping with his lover? What would Christ have said to the farmer who dared to disobey the law to rescue a lost sheep on the Sabbath day? What would Jesus have said to medical tests requiring semen obtained by masturbation? What would Jesus have said about family planning and population control in a continent brimming with poverty, hunger and starvation? You will remember the story of the woman taken in adultery and brought to Jesus by the scribes and Pharisees, who may be likened to the Christians and Christian leaders of today. They said to the teacher, "Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?" The gospel of John notes that, "they said this, to tempt him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not." The following verses portray an aspect of Jesus' teachings that is often ignored by religious people: So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her". And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? Hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, "Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." The summary of it all is that no human being is perfect. The struggle to become a better person, a more loving son or daughter, a more compassionate husband or wife, a more conscientious public servant or politician, is an enduring lifetime goal. Those who spend all their days shaming women for "dressing like whores", and condemning gay people and prostitutes, aren't decent humans but sanctimonious hypocrites like the notorious scribes and Pharisees. If they spent a little more time minding their own business, their conscience would certainly judge them, and they would have found themselves unworthy of the company of those they call fornicators and adulterers. So there you have it. Folks should watch their own lane lest they strike a foot against a stone, and as they do that, they may yet learn that the log in their eyes might yet need some attention. I like the Igbo saying, "Egbe bere, ugo bere. Nke si ibe ya ebela,nku kuu kwaa ya!" "Let the Kite fly, let the Eagle fly, The one that says the other shouldn't fly, should lose its wings." This aptly captures this principle of tolerance and fairness, in line with the old code of equity law which commands that every wrong be remedied, and as St Thomas wrote, the firm and constant will to give each one his due, is the definition of justice. This is Humanism at its finest![/b] |
[b][size=14pt]SIASIA: WE ARE SUFFERING IN BRAZIL[/size] https://africanfootball.com/bp_images/2016/07/siasia_pondering_2_1.jpg Nigeria Olympic team coach Samson Siasia has raised alarm from the team’s training camp in Atlanta, Georgia, that he has not been paid for the past five months and his team are yet to receive any allowances leading up to the Rio Olympics. “We are suffering in Atlanta. We have not received any money since we arrived this training camp. I have not been paid for the past five months,” lamented Siasia. “We will not hold the country to ransom by threatening not to play our matches, but the government has to come to our rescue. “I know that by the time the Olympics will be over, our monies will not be paid.” Siasia's team have been overseas for the past one month. The Olympic team are due to depart the United States of America for Brazil on Friday. http://africanfootball.com/news/634407/Siasia-I-have-not-been-paid-for-5-months[/b] |
[b]THE BACKWARD RELIGIONS OF ABRAHAM The Universal Declaration of Human Rights confers more than 27 fundamental and inalienable rights on every individual, regardless of race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. This declaration represents a consolidation of everything our species has learned in, perhaps, 200,000 years to protect humans from oppression and guarantee the freedoms necessary for a safe, fair and fulfilled life. Article 18 of the Declaration grants freedom of thought--the freedom to believe anything you wish and to change your beliefs without coercion. I sometimes wonder how Christians reconcile their religion with these inalienable human rights. After all, the single biggest sin in Christianity, the sin that could result in eternal torture, is not a heinous act of cruelty but a simple thought-crime--the crime of NOT believing that Jesus is your Lord and master. According to Christianity, a person can be forgiven the genocide of a nation but cannot be forgiven having the wrong beliefs. At least, a Christian is free to leave Christianity but a Muslim has no such luck. In most Muslim countries, leaving Islam is a serious crime, in some cases punishable by death. This is in direct contravention of Article 18 of the declaration. We have learned a lot since the Abrahamic religions were forged in the Middle East more than 1,500 years ago. Unfortunately, the Iron Age god of Abraham has no capacity to learn, so followers of these religions are forced to adhere to a view of human rights that we have long discarded, and now looks grotesquely backward. [/b] |
ALLAH NOW HATES MOVIES? Our religiosity has reached to a level that whenever a business or developmental plan is raised, we bring out our "holy book" to check whether it contravenes "God's" law. A proposal by FG to build movie village in Kano has been scrapped due to public outcry against it, not because it's a bad business idea, but because Allah is not happy with it. The debate was not about the revenue to be generated, employment to be created or the cultural value it would add. It was all about Religion. Movie promotes "immorality". A people is hopelessly backward when all aspects of their life are dictated by religion. Now I suppose God is happy with us. He will surely bless us with more unemployment and poverty just like he's been doing. |
"All the martyrs in the history of the world are not sufficient to establish the correctness of an opinion. Martyrdom, as a rule, establishes the sincerity of the martyr, — never the correctness of his thought. Things are true or false in themselves. Truth cannot be affected by opinions; it cannot be changed, established, or affected by martyrdom. An error cannot be believed sincerely enough to make it a truth." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll. |
safarigirl:You killed it! What exactly has Buhari done right in this administration? Jonathan! Jonathan all the time. SMH |
[b]THE 9-YEAR OLD PUT IN CHAINS When I was a kid of around age 9 or 10, I used to be fascinated when I see local ducks swimming while their beautiful yellow ducklings convoy with their mom... Somehow I thought all birds could swim, I caught my mom's chicken and threw it in the river to swim. Damn me! The poor thing drowned and left a heavy rock on my conscience at that time. I also received some serious beating from my dad. I have a fragile heart, I can't watch bloody accident scenes. I hate blood perhaps that's why I opted for engineering instead of medicine. I tried one time to "murder'' a chicken for Christmas rice, that Christmas was the worst ever. I woke up to a story of a 9-year old kid put in chains accused of wizardry, I couldn't go past the headline. The image of the boy on the headline won't make me open the news, I felt so guilty. I wished I wasn't a homo sapien, I wish I never shared this planet with these humans. It is 2016 for f**k sake. And people wonder why I'm so keen on writing and condemning religions. Have you no eyes? Have you not seen the harm it has caused from its conception till date? I won't say a word more about this boy. I'll only ask to borrow me your heart if you can look that kid in the eye for two minutes and not feel sad. [/b] |
Most of these boys have destroyed their future. Their football career is now flushed into the toilet. They better go back to school and concentrate on their studies. Amuneke has soiled his reputation. His pedigree is now under the mat. Shame on all of them, and the useless Amaju Pinnick. Dude is a disgrace and disappointment to the country. SMH. Useless man! |
SILLY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS Thoughts and Prayers after Orlando attack. Thoughts and Prayers after Nice attack. Thought and Prayers after Germany train axe attack. Thoughts and Prayers now just after this Munich attack! "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" - Albert Einstein. ***Y'all Thoughts and Prayers folks are truly insane. SMH. |
After one year, all we hear are promises. This is a most disappointing government. |
WHY THE OBSESSION? Okay, someone who from this thread has been interfacing with me outside Nairaland told me about this thread https://www.nairaland.com/3232251/what-exactly-atheism-done-humanity and wants to know my opinion about winner01 accusation of atheists' obsession with religion. So I thought to use an analogy to answer the enquiry. Oncologists are doctors who specialise in tumours and cancers. They're always reading about and studying cancers. Looking for ways to treat it. In casual conversations with other colleagues, cancer always comes up. They go to conferences about cancer. They write in medical journals about cancer. They seem obsessed about a disease they claim is bad. I mean, there are other diseases too, but they always talk about cancer. What could be the reason? I think they secretly admire cancer and want to have it. I mean, what else can explain this obsession with cancer? |
[b]DOES GOD SANCTION SLAVERY? Slavery is rather an embarrassment for Christians. After all, it's hard to claim your god is the author of absolute morality and simultaneously know that he sanctioned slavery. Some try to get around this obvious contradiction by claiming that the sort of slavery practiced by the Hebrews, and sanctioned by God, was different from the slavery seen in the USA before the civil war. They say slavery 3,000 years ago was indentured servitude--a safe refuge for people in serious debt so they could pay back what they owed. I have never seen Christians produce any evidence of this--all I have seen is assertions. So let's look at what God did sanction according to the Bible. The Bible makes it clear that slaves are a person's property. They may be bought and sold and they may be passed on to the master's children when he dies. If a slave has a baby, that child also becomes the master's property. If a slave couple have children and are later allowed to go free, the children remain the property of the master. A master was permitted to beat his slaves. Indeed, according to the Bible, he may lawfully beat them to death, provided they live a fews days after the beating. And he may brand them so they can be recognised as his property. In a clear illustration of the status of slaves, if a slave is gored by a bull, the master must be compensated--not the slave. In addition to trading in slaves, the Bible also permits slaves to be taken forcibly by the victors after a battle. All this closely mirrors the type of slavery seen in the USA. But, in fact, Biblical slavery was worse. Hebrews could enslave Hebrews but Americans were not permitted to enslave Americans. God even allowed men to sell their daughters as concubines, which was not permitted in the USA. Honestly, there is more that could be said but this is enough. If God is the author of absolute morality, we are terribly wrong to have abolished slavery. But, if we are right, God is wrong. How COULD God be wrong? Simple, the Bible was written by Iron Age men and embodied their primitive moral values. If we are right that slavery is immoral, God is ancient fiction, nothing more.[/b] |
THE REPUBLIC OF ZOMBIES Asides the hell-forsaken stories of Dino Melaye and Remi Tinubu, a meme insinuating that King David and Jonathan had a romantic relationship has remained the most trendy topic for many a Nigerian youth this past few days. This in the same week that the economy is said to have entered recession, and the military alleged to have committed genocide against a religious minority. This meme insinuating that King David and Jonathan had a romantic relationship was shared widely on Twitter, Nairaland, Facebook and featured on blogs, with 105 percent of Nigerian youths proffering expert views on the subject, and half that number threatening to bring down the heavens in protest. Unfortunately, this is the state of the nation: a republic of zombies. No wonder the politicians and oligarchs have failed to accept the urgency of the moment. |
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT I can understand it when people march for climate change. I can understand it when people rally for nuclear nonproliferation. I can understand it when people protest against raised taxes. I can understand it when people agitate, even violently, against oppressive governments. But I cannot understand folks who disrupt the public peace because their sacred scriptures were maligned. Let gods fight their own battles. If they made the universe and everything in it, they do not need men to march on their behalf to prove their mettle. |
Napoleon55:Yeah, he's been left out owing to visa issues. However, the list is still subject to changes, so we expect him to be included if he sorts out his visa problems. That does not stop him from playing tomorrow's match against Bayern in Munich. |
Darkmatter's videos should be engraved into the history hard drives of our species, so that when aliens dig out our remains, they will know higher orders of sentience existed among the pitiful masses. |
THE UNEXPECTED GOD by darkmatter2525 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jduMIUt9M3M |
Okay...we have agreed that Mikel will not allow us concede goals. Please how will we score goals? With a good defense, we may be guaranteed to have three goalless draws which gives 3 points. Unfortunately, 3 points won't take us out of the group stage. |
When Christians tell you to ignore the old testament saying that God has given us the grace based on the new testament, does it not sound to you like, I know this guy was a serial rapist and killer, but that's the past, we can allow him to babysit our kids. |
TheGoodJoe:LOL. I hope we do our best to qualify from the group. |
TheGoodJoe:I don't know, but this makes my heart leap. I want Chidi to come good. I have always thought him a good player. |
TheGoodJoe:Do you know the reason Popoola and Saviour were dropped? |
[b]winner01 has a persecution complex. I have said this here before: The reason most posts are directed at Christianity is because most of us are ex-christians or are the kind of people with whom Christianity is more familiar than Islam. There are several people who constantly talk against Islam in other online places. They are ex-muslims. There is Mubarak Bala, the atheist whose parents locked up in a psychiatry home for questioning Islam in Kano and whom BBC broadcast his story. There is Ali Rizvi an ex-muslim from Pakistan. Therefore, if winners01 thinks people talk mostly about Christianity, he should venture beyond Nairaland and visit ex-islamists forums. Atheism does not improve lives because it is not an ideology. But humanism does. Most atheists are humanists. humanism /ˈhjuːmənɪz(ə)m/ noun a rationalist outlook or system of thought attaching prime importance to human rather than divine or supernatural matters. So unless you're trying to be mischievous, you will agree with me that I discuss it alot on this thread. I conclude by saying that winner01 is a pseudo-intellectual whose arguments do not stand up to rigorous scrutiny. His thoughts about religion are infantile. [/b] |
THEY WANT THE FREEDOM TO INSULT When Charlie Hebdo attack happened in France, many Christians argued that it was wrong to offend Muslims by drawing cartoons. They thought the cartoonists were reckless. The murders seemed justified. A Christian woman was beheaded in Kano and the same people who excused violence in France couldn't stomach it. I hear they are planning to hold a proselytising session at the spot where a preacher was murdered, near a mosque in the outskirts of Abuja. It appears finally we have a religious bloc fiercely in favour of the freedom to insult. I hope they don't come out, guns blazing, when their own beliefs are ridiculed. Glory to Zeus. |
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