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passion007:
The entire time, I thought you were referring to batch cycle testing which is notably done in Ghana to save testing material, I would never have thought anyone would misunderstand the amplification cycle the way you have!

I recognise when people have no further argument, they finish with good wishes.
With that in mind, I'm not sure if you want me to explain your 'dead nucleotide' concept so you can better understand it, but given you haven't really engaged with any of my points, other than pushing the goal post a little further each time, I presume you don't want any further explanations from myself.

passion007:

You're talking to a PCR expert mate. Really funny trying to explain PCR to me.

I see you're referring to replication cycles, and once again, your comment reveals no knowledge of the workings of PCR technology.

"Photocopying on a molecular level"? that's too simplistic. Try thinking of it as "amplifying viral molecules" and you may start to understand it better.
And what is that talk about 35 amplification cycles causing high false positives?
That's what happens when you try to learn an entire specialism from blog posts.
May be if you think "How many times can I amplify this dot (.) so that I can see it from 6 metres away?" If there's no dot there to start with, even if you amplify it a million times, you will see nothing.
But if there is a dot, however small, you can amplify it until it is visible from 6m away, whether it takes 40 or 60 amplification cycles to get to that point, and that is not a false positive!

You have really inspired me to think of writing a book "PCR for Beginners"

passion007:
What do you mean 'not so much' in regards to covid? Would be helpful if you clarify your disagreement.

35 cycles of what exactly?

passion007:
I'll tell you a test that has no false positives at all - coronavirus viral culture.

Culture will correctly identify every case of coronavirus, but will take several days to make a diagnosis, whereas PCR tests are instant in some cases. This means patients can be diagnosed earlier and treatment started earlier with PCR.

Secondly, PCR is a safe testing system, with minimal risk to handlers and laboratory staff while culture means growing a sample until the amount of virus is significant enough to be detected on the growth medium, with a significant biosafety hazard.

PCR will correctly identify 99 out of 100 cases of covid and culture will identify all 100 cases

Imagine for a second that you're the public health expert planning a large scale community testing for your village, which option will you go for between PCR and culture?

Lastly, what do you mean PCR gives a lot of false positives? That has never been a concern. The concern has always been a high number of false negatives!!

ManirBK:
from start to end is War,need to watch this film again to refresh my memory bro.

passion007:
I don't think you understand what you've just posted. It's hard to address your post because it means I will need to start from the basics and explain what PCR means, but I'll try.

PCR means Polymerase Chain Reaction, its a technology developed many years ago for testing for different medical conditions, so it isn't unique to coronavirus at all. It predates covid 19 by over 20 years actually!

Multiplex PCR simply means testing for 2 or more conditions at once. It means checking chlamydia and gonorrhoea with one test, rather than two. Or testing for syphilis and HIV with one test rather than two. This technology already exists. What the CDC is proposing is to test for Influenza and Coronavirus with one test rather than two. This does not mean both viruses are the same. Each test will detect a unique part of the respective virus and so it is possible to test positive for covid and not flu, or vice versa, or even test positive to both, or to neither.

At no point did the CDC say that they can't tell one virus from the other; that misinformation is borne from your own limited understanding of the subject matter.

TMKsouth:
Check the attachments below for the answer above.

Bear in mind also that a place like SA has an already immune compromised population suffering from HIV and TB, so the variants become more complicated - hence Omicron with over 50 mutations (doubled that of India's Delta).

Namnam:
Overpopulationism is a hoax

TMKsouth:
So I take it you're completely against mandatory vaccination . We already have mandatory vaccines for babies and school children u know - so I don't know what the fuss is about - especially when we're told lack of vaccination creates crazy variants. But we are adults now and can't be forced to do things we dont want to - but sometimes we gotta do things for the common good. Unvaccinated people create variants.

MASTERCHIEF0847:
The testing done by CDC in the lab is different from the normal PCR test.
The samples are further tested/worked on by virologists in the CDC lab.

passion007:
First clarify where and when CDC claimed PCR tests can't differentiate covid from the flu

DOTian:
These guys arecalways trying to make international headlines for all the wrong reasons! They are banning air travels right left and center and this oned are raising up their hands to demand for their own ban! Inebriated bunch..

Homeboiy:
Bible

If it’s condemned

Why was he allowed as a Christian to marry more than one wife

PoliteActivist:
It is not a question of giving or receiving info or of how much you know or do not know, it is a question of being able to think and consider what is actually in front of you

backbencher:
Meanwhile this is what you said....



Not only is that not true, that shows you have no knowledge of viruses and virus.

And as for your video...I have seen it, the Nobel Prize winner cited was wrong. Linus Pauling was wrong about ascorbic acid being used to treat cancers.

Here is the rebuttal

KnownUnknown:
I received my mark yesterday and it starts with the perfect number, six, the number of the devil. For of all the numbers, from the unit upwards, it is the first perfect one, being made equal to its parts, and being made complete by them; the number three being half of it, and the number two a third of it, and the unit a sixth of it, and, so to say, it is formed so as to be both male and female, and is made up of the power of both natures; for in existing things the odd number is the male, and the even number is the female; accordingly, of odd numbers the first is the number three, and of even numbers the first is two, and the two numbers multiplied together make six.

backbencher:
When you in essence denied that viruses mutated, that made me know that you have zero knowledge of science, and that includes the video.

AmazonTopaz:
And you believe the truth is in conspiracies guy go sleep

backbencher:
Most viruses MUTATE.

It is in their nature to MUTATE.

PoliteActivist:
YouTube is such a conspiracist goldmine because things there look so official. Most people don't know ANYBODY can post ANYTHING on YouTube AND it's extremely easy to do!

backbencher:
It does.

PoliteActivist:
Nope. They post obviously manipulated videos - like posting all people who died durring sports and claim they were killed by covid vaccines!!

backbencher:
What if the handful of people is one of your loved ones or even you?

You won't be sounding like that then

LordReed:
How is the vaccine evil?