₦airaland Forum

kingzizzy:
I'm happy that you have exposed your self as another Nigerian who has nothing to say. I expressly said that we Biafrans want a referendum in the South of Nigeria so that the indigenous people can decide what they want. But you are coming up with every reason to uphold the fraud of Lugard called Nigeria. It is actually people like you that are dragging other people into an illegitimate union.

Yujin:
You called him a hopeless son right? When it starts do not complain. Always remember how it started.

olrotimi:
There is nothing strange about this fetus. The condition is called MEROANENCEPHALY and would have been diagnosed during the pregnancy if the woman ever did an ultrasound scan. It usually results in still-birth as is the case here.
I'm equally surprised the doctors said they have never seen this before, no doctor worth his salt should say this. Rare as it is, we were taught this as part of the medical curriculum, except ofcus the doctor cut corners to obtain his degree.

Obiagu1:
With 1% of all government money transfers, no state in Nigeria could rival Remita.

Talk of broad daylight robbery.

Buhari, the corruption fighter, now perpetrating the worst corruption in Nigerian history.

IgboDelta:
THE CONSTITUTION AND OTHER UN CONVENTIONS CLEARLY STATES THE FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL. THE NIGERIAN ARMY SHOULD HAVE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THESE AND BE ABLE TO UPGRADE ITSELF TO A MODERN ARMY CAPABLE OF OPERATING IN A CIVILIZED AND DEMOCRATIC ENVIRONMENT. THERE IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH, ASSOCIATION AND EXPRESSION

Scholes007:
Below was the post you quoted
And i was telling you that there is nothing like adulterated igbo as you implied. Take your time reread my post and you will understand who is suffering from comprehension problem.

ichidodo:
[color=#1986BC] Even in peacetime the zoo cannot help her citizenry with fuel how then can they supply such logistics to their army deep in combat against the Biafran armies,who by the way,are already versed with the technology of petroleum refining and whose lands are brimming with the crude? How ironic would it be for fuel scarcity to incapacitate the zoo army allowing her be overrunned and blitzed by marauding Biafran military legions? Talk about nemesis biting the zoo in the scrotal sac....[/color]

Scholes007:
my friend stop playing a devils advocate and face the fact that you know nothing about what you are saying...you might think you are free from comprehension malfunction, take quick break down of what you wrote mr comprehensive man;
you brought some dialectal variation between ikwere and general igbo, then you tactically called ikwere adulterated (not pure) igbo. I on my own part was trying to let you know that there is nothing like adulterated igbo. There maybe some variation in igbo language but there is nothing like adultrated igbo as you assumed. Whether central igbo,ikwere, uturu, afikpo... There is nothing like adultrated igbo. All igbo is igbo.
And i maintain that your previous was a devious one.

kingzizzy:
I am not an Australian, nor am I from Belgium. I am in Igbo man who is asking on what authority was I made a Nigerian? What gives anybody the right to call me Nigerian when I never gave my consent to be one. The legitimacy of Nigeria is at the very heart of the demand for a referendum. Nigeria has no legitimacy and that is why a referendum must be conducted to know a Nigerian is. Simply put, Nigeria is an illegal entity.

tonychristopher:
Another post begging Igbo not to leave

kingzizzy:
It is interesting what you wrote however........

I'm not a Lawyer or legal expert but I do know a thing or two about the Laws of contract. Same as a woman and man will sign a marriage contract where both parties willingly and publicly give their consent to the formation of a "valid" union. Either party also reserve the right to walk out of the Union any time they wish and for whatever reason by instituting divorce proceedings. In the case of Nigeria, not only is Nigeria a fraud for there being no contractual agreement between the indigenous people of the land to enter into a union, people also insult we Igbos for demanding a divorce to a marriage that never existed in the first place. The legitimacy of Nigeria is based on the sovereign will of the people and who they lend it to. Without the consent of the people, any nation is a fraud. I want to see a document where my Igbo tribe agreed to the Union of Nigeria. Where did we agree to be Nigerians? Nigeria was created by fiat and had no shred of legitimacy. No doubt that we all benefited by the coming of the White man but that does not mean we gave up our sovereignty. So, Biafran agitators like me are insisting on a referendum to determin the fate of the British invention called Nigeria. Yes we may have voted for leaders to govern us but those leaders derive their just powers from the legitimacy of Nigeria as a nation. In the law of contract, if the main basis of the contract as stipulated is fraudulent, all other acts that follow the contract inherit that fraudulence. As of now, all elected politicians are occupying illegal positions because Nigeria was begotten from an act of illegality.

A biafran agitator who wants to leave an illegitimate Nigeria will drag along an unwilling niger delta legitimately
Have you heard Anku Briggs the niger delta activist who represented them in the SNC speak on this subject? those are the kinda people i listen to not Nnamdi Kanu who represent the Igbo interest in the prison cell.
Since Lugard did you a disfavor I need you to present to me a document of consent from Niger delta that they are pro Biafra, I want to be sure you are not about to create another fraud like the Nigeria you so despise.
I will be the happiest man the day a South East Biafra will come to life.

kingzizzy:
You are a funny individual. You write so many things without making any point.


Im asking you a simple question and you are beating about the bush:


On what mandate did Lord Lugard make you a Nigerian?

Scholes007:
this shows you know little or nothing about the igbos. First ulo is a general igbo language for house. My clan uturu refer to house ebe-ete.
House in igbo = ulo
house in uturu = ebe-ete
house in isuochi = ohe
clan in igbo = mba
clan in uturu = ndi ohe
clan in isuochi = ama/onumara
greeting in igbo = ndeewo
equivalent in uturu = unu anodu o
equivalent in afikpo = jokwa
equivalent in ohafia = ka nuu
i think you take dialect differences as language differences. The rest you wrote up there is to cover you devious post.

kingzizzy:
How come you like to discuss politics but you don't know Nigeria history well? So don't you know that the consultative assembly also included the Chiefs and paramount kings of the 20 provinces of the old eastern region? Or are you going to say it was Ojukwu who coronated them as well? You are saying that Zik did not go with Ojukwu to Aburi, what would Zik be doing in a meeting of Military leaders or don't you know that we had Military rule then? The same confederation that Ojukwu negotiated in Aburi is what most people in Southern Nigeria want, even to this day, but have no hope of ever getting because the northerners are against it. Ojukwu at least had some sort of mandate. What mandate did Lugard have to make you a Nigerian? Yet you are still answering the illegal name Lugard gave you with pride but you question Ojukwus methods? Ojukwu had no right to speak for the eastern region but Lugard can come from Europe to 'award' you a fake country and impose on you a slave name coined after the river Niger? No wonder Nnamdi Kany says the black man cannot reason. Below is text of the consultative assembly mandating Ojukwu to declare Biafra. If you have the mandate that made you a Nigerian, post it for us to see.

I have seen the attached document in several places, and i can not help but laugh at the ignorance of people who are throwing it around as fact.
The fact that an ignorant person published a book does not make his opinion sacrosanct.
I told you that Ojukwu's consultative assembly were his neigh saying "Aburi we stand" friends, if they had any relevance, why were they not negotiating the fate of igbos in Aburi?
I repeat again those men were hand picked by Ojukwu, they were NEVER elected as such they were there to serve the interest of their master Ojukwu not the Igbos, saying they were traditional heads is the fattest lie of the 21st century. For educational purposes you may go and read up the people's consultative assembly of Indonesia to learn how consultative assemblies are constituted.

You asked what Zik will do in Aburi? what was Timothy Omo Bare doing with the Nigerian delegates in Aburi? Zik the first Governor general of Nigeria has no say on the fate of Igbos in Aburi? The man who proposed an independent Nigeria to the South eastern General assembly? please don't insult my intelligence.
You claim you know history yet you have such ridiculous opinion, Listen again and very clearly, the reason they went to Aburi in the first place was to negotiate a treaty that will stop the pogrom aka genocide at the time, what has that got to do with confederation?
You question Lord lugard because Nnamdi Kanu told you so right? what did nnamdi Kanu's father do to stop the British invasion of Lagos in 1861 so we will never have a lord Lugard in the first place? or you don't know what Ethiopia did to halt British invasion?

Such illogical question can only come from lunatics like Nnamdi Kanu, did he question slave trade also? BTW what is the source of that text you attached? don't tell me you take Nowa Omoigui seriously, he actually wrote that nonsense you are throwing around, check his surname and tell me what to expect when a Yoruba man is writing Igbo history, clowns
The same Omogui who wrote that Gowon was the most senior military officer after the death of Aguiyi ironsi abi?

You and Kanu blame Lord Lugard for Amalgamation when will you blame Ironsi and Gowon?
Lugard only amalgamated the northern and southern protectorates which availed us the opportunity of having a central government, with the 1963 republic Nigeria, we still had the opportunity of operating as federating units aka regional government, it was Aguiyi ironsi who proposed decree 34 that abrogated the regional government, why are you not blaming him?

Where lugard stopped gave you a regional government of self rule and resource control why are you not blaming Ironsi who took it away from you? why are you not blaming Gowon who implemented decree 34 by dissolving completely federating units rather created states that ended up being liabilities to the central government, when will you blame him?

Lord lugard's amalgamation did us a huge favor only hypocrites like you think otherwise.

joeprince23:
My name is Eze joseph timipre. I am from umusia afam OYIGBO LGA of rivers state(highest oil producing LGA and home of AFAM power plant). Why timipre(well my mum is okrika-ijaw from ogu in ogu-bolu LGA of rivers state. I am not speaking for the entire Niger Delta.1st nigeria boundry are purely political and never ethnic,the demacation between SE and SS are just concrete slabs,travellers coming to port harcourt from aba wil appreciate my argurment. Surprisingley aba is the closest major city to port harcourt both geographically and in proximity(not yenegoa,uyo or warri). What is ikwerre? Ikwerre is clan with closely bt not the same dialect (just like ngwa),with four lga: PHALGA,obio/akpor,emulga and ikwerre Lga. Ikwere is not homogenous and no one come to dis forum claiming to represent it,a 15mins drive from imo state polythecn along oweri-PH road wil lead u to elele in ikwerre LGA. I am igbo,and if nigeria disintergrate I wil wanna join biafra with my kith and kins from rivers state,their is no hatred between the real rivers indigene and SE people...infact after pigdin igbo is the secoond spoken langauge in PH and SE-igbos own many businesses in PH...SS-igbo and SE-igbo are one. I am a proud igbo man,a proud rivers-man,proud of my riverine linage and a proud nigerian Long live ndigbo. Long live wakrike(okrika nation).

kingzizzy:
Igbo were and are a highly egalitarian and republican people. Igbo land was a very loose federation of clans who shared linguistic, cultural and traditional sentiments but I hasten to add that people in the world started out that way until certain forces of unity brought them together. While you are right that Lugard was a unifying factor for Igbos, I hasten to add that the unity would have happened with or without Lugard. As Igbos became more self aware and civilisation crept in, the methods of communication would have improved making it possible for Igbos to discover other Igbos they didn't know about. All Lugard did was to speed up the process. Igbos were never 'empire builders' like the Yorubas and Hausas. Infact, Igbos rarely had any Kings before the White man came. That's why indirect rule could not work in the east. Lugard came to unify every one for the express purpose of looting our resources. Lugard was a thief.

You talk about refrenndum and Biafra. [b]It may interest you to know that before Ojukwu declared Biafra, he recieved the mandate to do so from the Eastern Nigeria consultative assembly which comprised of representatives and Chiefs of all the 20 provinces of the old eastern region or roughly what is now known as SE/SS. At least Ojukwu had some sort of mandate.[b][/b] On what mandate or referendum did Lugard create Nigeria? [/b]We Biafran agitators want a referendum so that the indigenous people of the land can finally say what they want. This not about the thieves in Abuja who call themselves political representatives of the people. This about the people themselves. Nigeria is a British created fraud.

SonOfEl:
You call biafran agitators "thugs, anarchists and misguided entities"? If so, who then are the citizens?

Your Nigeria reeks of nepotism, prebendalism, and such likes, how then would the voice of the common man be heard? Its funny you are comparing Nigeria with civilized societies like Scotland and co. Nigeria is a political failure. The system here does not work, and its corruption has even infected Igbo politicians, For Biafra to return to civility, the Nigerian system of things MUST BE AMPUTATED FROM BIAFRA. Simple.

Ovamboland:
You write as if the coming together of people we refer to as Ibos is not by the grace of the same Lugard and Britain you deride today. Was there any country, kingdom or single entity at anytime in history called Biafra or Iboland? How many so-called Ibo men in Nsukka area interacted or know about the existence of any Ibo living in Aba area or Anioma? You only know all these today because Lugard came to amalgamate the fragmented Ibo villages.
There is no hard evidence to show you lived at any time as a single entity so the Biafra concept is totally alien to ibo culture and system and only fostered because of the colonial need of a unified administration.
There is no evidence that a referendum was conducted before the declaration of Biafra and it is unlikely such a referendum will succeed today. The people representing the Ibos in the National assembly are yet to call for such a referendum, neither is the known political leaders calling for such. But some of you expect the FG to listen to thugs and unknown or misguided entities. Was the Scottish movement led by thugs and anarchist or by leaders selected by free citizens?

Iykopee:
An import by the OP meant for intellectuals that reeks of eviscerated facts pulled from the buttom of insincerity and deceit thereby making it intellectually shallow and totally empty...

I think the reason to remain in Nigeria must be laid out before we start comparing japan, Germany and falksland with Biafra. And lest i forget, many countries left their former shelve to their present abode without strident conditions attached. If there are no reasons, then biafra shud go and no amount of threat can quench that dream..

Rotimi47:
Why do you people like twisting facts? USSR divided by mutual consent as they didn't have enmity between them; let me state that they broke up because USSR was seriously broke.

As per your list of Nigeria stolen monies, Jonathan stole more than all the made up figures you quoted; let me ask you a question, why is it that you didn't put Jonathan on your list? Okonjo and even ihejerika who the Western media revealed that he diverted billions onto his personal account are not on your list.


It's funny the way some people reason.

So you did not see Obasanjo's hand in the ordeal of Mbadinuju and Anambra state? When Ngige resisted it what happened? OBASANJO REMAINS THE WORST HUMAN BEING TO LIVE IN NIGERIA and he knows that. that is why he rightly said that if there should be a revolution in Nigeria he would be the first to be killed. I hope someday he will be paid in his own coin.

twoondei:
It would interest you to know however that these figures should not be swallowed raw.

Prevalence of 2.2% of a 17million population means a far higher number of people living with HIV. That makes a whopping 374,000 people. Far greater than the 15% in rivers.

Lesson, ALWAYS, ALWAYS WEAR STOCKINGS[b][/b].

Obiagu1:
That's when the oil will be depleted and everyone comes back to a level ground.

Obiagu1:
Yes it is Biafran oil because it belongs to Biafra.
Yes every province will control their resources 100%. Nobody needs your oil, keep it to yourself because every province has it's own oil.

In 45 years time, you'll be on your knees begging Igbo Province for financial support.

xtrorse:
You can keep masturbating with your lies and propaganda!

Oyigbo LGA and Ogba-Ndoni-Egbema LGA are the two largest oil producing LGAs in Nigeria.

Both LGAs are Igbo LGAs in Rivers. state, and it is a reality that must be a source of discomfort to Igbo haters.
To make matters worse, Anambra state and Imo state have the largest gas reserves in Nigeria.



Nigeria's total gas deposit is 188 tcf and Anambra has more than 30 tcf -
http://www.gasandoil.com/news/discoveries/d89bc98903f0500bdba5eca6bd2b8b9b

As per being landlocked and not having access to the sea, is totally false. But you must note that having access to the sea is not a guarantee for success country e.g Somalia.

Let me educate you a bit; Porthacourt port and Apapa wharf are not by the sea or on the coastline.
They are inlands and ships go through waterways to get to them. Not having coastline is not more important than having waterways. A number of countries are landlocked and yet have achieved far more success than Nigeria.

Anambra has the River Niger running between the borders of Onitsha and Asaba. Imo has the Imo River. Abia has Obuaku. Ebonyi has the river at Ikwo. Of the 5 SE States, 4 have waterways through which they can access the Ocean.

Klinee:
Mehn every SS people in onitsha act and claim igbo even benin,urhobo, ijaw ,calabar,ogoja. Come to onitsha, who care where u come from.

honourhim:
Tell him oo my brother. Wind don blow open south west nyash. Now they are trying hard to cover their shame. They said our land is cursed yet we are doing better than them. The Lagos that we invaded is the only state doing well in their region. What a shame for a people who have boasted being better than us over the years.