Fashion › Re: Ladies: What Makeup Reveals About You by jpphilips(m): 12:07pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
chuxyz: I look at ladies who say they like being themselves and can't help but ROTFLOL. With most of them applying makeup like one coming outta a paint factory. Not to talk of the ego with which some will sway those expensive artificial hair as if it is the end of the world while they look down on every other person as if they are a piece of shit. There is one thing i want you all to know: Being oneself starts with being natural. Once a lady can't be natural, never accept a word when she says she is or likes being herself. Trust me that's a fat lie. Any lady who makes up is actually indirectly telling you that she is what she really isn't. In conclusion, i will like to tell you ladies that being yourself starts with being natural and if you all can do this, men will appreciate you more. [size=8pt][size=8pt]Chronicles of a loser![/size][/size] |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel’s Mobile Missile Defence System: What Is The Iron Dome? by jpphilips(m): 6:09pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
EasternLeopard: That's what Nigeria needs to build to counter BH rockets which saharareporters said might be deployed by BH in the future if BH is not stopped now.
Nigeria needs to build a single man portable anti-rocket-missle-shell radar/infared weapons. with a clueless president?  |
Business › Re: Time Running Out For Nigeria’s LNG Projects by jpphilips(m): 6:00pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
Orhu: If passing the PIB is a problem and is causing delay they can as well break it down into segments and pass those that are feasible at the moment because as it stands Nigeria is loosing billions of dollars due to this delay. Another Gullible Nigerian, which part of the PIB will rake in billions for Nigeria? with the Madueke's DSO for gas? I want to hear it? loosing billions indeed!! |
Business › Re: Time Running Out For Nigeria’s LNG Projects by jpphilips(m): 5:55pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
wisemany2k: Nigeri's biggest problem is that we play politics in everything including FID. We, as a nation shouldn't be where we are today if the right people, are in the right positions, to make the right decisions. For instance, i've been hearing of brass LNG since 2006 but 8yrs later, we are still talking of FID!!!
@bolded, that is a big slap on the face of the "so called" economic gurus and industry negotiators. As fas as I'm concerned, [b]the PIB has nothing to do with the delay in the project. If we don't have capable hands on deck to secure long-term market commitment from buyers in Asia and across the globe, then we should hire foreigners and sack the lazy people sitting on those big seats that don't know their jobs. [/b]For Christ sake, it took Dangote and Indorama less than 4 years between conceptualizing a profitable downstream project (Fertilizer and refinery plants) to FID and even up to construction stage. Dangote and Indorama are not being run by spirits or deities rather, by intelligent people that are held accountable for their productivity.
Let productive people occupy those positions and we will see results. #bringbackproductivehands  God bless you jare!! the rate politicians use PIB to make excuses will tell you how much juice they have there in? they cant wait to see it passed hook or crook, and knowing Nigerians who hardly read, they want to make it look like our biggest problem lies there in. This Govt is scared some of them may not be returned come 2015, hence the need to pass the bill. Let us ask ourselves honestly, since when has the Nigerian Govt. put up exigency in any issue of national importance? Ebola is just less than a thousand miles away yet we have no federal response plan in place, ( sorry , I forgot doctors are on strike), If bombs doesn't kill a thousand, no contingencies will be put in place, but we must pass the PIB quickly as the devil stopping our progress, Nigerian leaders are insincere thieves!!
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Business › Re: Time Running Out For Nigeria’s LNG Projects by jpphilips(m): 5:30pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
Phonon: It is all good brother. I think the Nigerian market will fizzle out if the government doesn't do something fast. Already, the US has stopped importing oil from Nigeria. Asia is the new market for our LNG and oil. Western Canada (British Columbia), East Africa and the United States Gulf Coast are three of the geographic centers of the coming wave of LNG expansion and if Nigeria just sits there, we will be 'drinking' our gas. It wont exactly play out that way, I don't really have the time to explain it to you now, prolly later |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by jpphilips(m): 5:19pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
Delafruita: this post proves how ignorant you are hence i wont bother tutoring you.do you know how many flotillas have been denied entry into gaza?9turkish activists were killed by isreali troops when a flotilla was attacked.the press is accorded entry into every region without hinderance.perhaps except the reclusive north korea where they are not allowed in with their cameras.thats why its called a free press.isreal cannot stop pressmen no matter how biased they perceive them to from entering gaza I purposely did not intend to respond to you but as a sane mind, nothing bothers me more than people (not sure if they are humans though), taking my statements off context, I don't care how many people you think you are communicating with, i choose not to communicate with you, based on that truce, I hope and pray you will kindly leave my opinion for me by not quoting them.
i am not interested in condemning your sacrosanct opinion neither am i selling mine to you, nor do i have intentions of educating you. everyday i exchange tantrums here, I have a feeling that one day I may argue with Terry-G and I wont forgive myself for that, keep your dense mind to yourself and let me have mine, hope it is not too much to ask? you must not quote a post to state your opinion.
A lot of you chaps who missed classes look for cheaper avenues to learn, hence coming here to discuss what you wish you know.
If you believe, there is a blockade in gaza which does not allow even foreign dignitaries, it is your belief, I don't intend to change that, meanwhile all news agencies including that of Israel's enemies have been operating freely, United nations have sent countless emissaries over there, talking about freedom of press.
The same press TV Israel so much love and you claim has free passage in Gaza have been banned in the UK, was Uk not part of your freedom of press mantra?
Like I said, no free classes for you today because I wont live with myself knowing that I descended to argue with a terry g on a faceless forum |
Business › Re: Time Running Out For Nigeria’s LNG Projects by jpphilips(m): 4:15pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
vanstanzy: Nigeria reeks of mismanagement in all quaters. I have already said it that this PIBill wont be signed by this govt thats so engrossed in 2015 politicking. This is going to be a huge lose to Nigeria, but who care? Long live 2015 elections! If you understood that PIB ie if you ever read it, you wont wish it to be signed, Madueke deserves a jail term for the PIB if jo has sense |
Business › Re: Time Running Out For Nigeria’s LNG Projects by jpphilips(m): 4:05pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
emk4lif: Brass LNG should come on stream by 2017 while Chevron's Escravos Gas To Liquid and Bonny LNG are all also doing quite well, Olokola LNG is however a dead project, both the govt and the IOCs have basically pulled out. If only NASS would pass the PIB and reverse the trend of major IOCs increasingly divesting from Nigeria. Virtually all the major projects are on hold due to policy instability . you political maggots should just shut the fvck up! what has "PIB" got to do with your inability to expand your local capacity in gas production? The PIB actually hinders it truth be told, once the Govt fails in the industry, the maggots will shout "PIB" meanwhile nobody knows jack what the silly document is talking about. |
Business › Re: Time Running Out For Nigeria’s LNG Projects by jpphilips(m): 3:58pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
Stupid propaganda from miserable people, how did the PIB affect OKLNG? The minister Proposed a DSO for Gas, wetin concern OKLNG with Madueke's thoughtless DSO? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by jpphilips(m): 3:33pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
seguntijan: This is a speech made by Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to his cabinet about three weeks ago. It was reprinted by Affan Sosibo for the African National Congress Youth League on the 8th July 2014.
"We are not obliged even the least to try to prove to anybody and to the blacks and Arabs that we are superior people. We have demonstrated that to the blacks and Arabs in 1001 ways. The State of Israel that we know of today has not been created by wishful thinking. We have created it at the expenses of intelligence, sweat and blood………We do not pretend like other whites that we like the blacks. The fact that, blacks and Arabs look like human beings and act like human beings do not necessarily make them sensible human beings. Hedgehogs are not porcupines and lizards are not crocodiles because they look alike. If God had wanted us to be equal to the blacks and Arabs, he would have created us all of a uniform colour and intellect. But he created us differently: Whites, Blacks, Yellow, Rulers and the ruled. Intellectually, we are superior to the Blacks and Arabs; that has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt over the years. I believe that a Jew is honest, God fearing person, who has demonstrated practically the right way of being……By now every one of us has seen it practically that the Blacks and Arabs cannot rule themselves. Give them guns and they will kill each other. They are good in nothing else but making noise, dancing, marrying many wives and indulging in sex. Let us all accept that the Blackman is a symbol of poverty, mental inferiority, laziness and emotional incompetence. Isn’t it plausible? Therefore that the Whiteman is created to rule the Blackman……And here is a creature (Blackman) that lacks foresight….. The average Black does not plan his life beyond a year”  trust me African blacks have not disappointed over time |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by jpphilips(m): 2:59pm On Jul 22, 2014*. Modified: 3:41pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
abdulkayus: Guy abeg keep schooling dem. They dont knw history only to spew thrash. Just cos Hamas do t do their biddin, they hav now been termed as terrorists. Jus cos Isreal, US and their balls lickers d EU term dem as terrorists doesn't mean we shld follow their hypocrisy. Mandela and d ANC where also term as terrorists jus cos dey are fightin for their rights and land. Up till 2008 Mandela was still label as terrorist by d US, and dey hav d guts to come for his burial and eulogised him. Hw I wish South Africa didn't invites dos hypocrites. As a Nlander said on dis thread, one man terrorist os another man freedom fighters. If US and EU want to condemn a group or person, they will jus term dem as terrorist and wit d propaganda of their media, they will keep drumming that into ppl head until d masses agree wit d designation. There is no biggest terrorists on dis earth like d hypocritical US. They are fightin d Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan bt supportin dem in Syria and Libya, wat a joke. Do you see what makes you an African (a black mind)? the statement in bold, when you degenerate so low to calling blowing up innocent women and children to smithereens in the name of fighting for your land, "Freedom Fighting", it doesn't take away the terrorist tag on you, no matter how just your cause is, the Modus Operandi is the judge of whom you truly are. That yardstick is used to measure your likely action if the roles were reversed.
like I cautioned a nonentity who had comprehension problem, quoted my post out of context then started writing scrolls in a vain attempt to educate his leaking brain. If I should agree Israel is a monster, they should be using nukes on the Palestinians by now, After all, within two years of conflict, an Arab Assad have already exhausted his chemical weapons stock pile on his people who have divergent view on his leadership, whether or not there were external influence or influence from the "gods" remains immaterial in this context.
We like to look at issues so peripheral because we live in the part of the world bereft of wisdom, what do you do when you are oppressed? aggravate your oppressor? that is the kinda logic that can only come from Arab heads like Palestinians and smoke heads like most Nigerians, will you blame these two sects of people? of course not, people who unanimously voted a terrorist organization to rule them for close to 8yrs now? the same organization that aggravate your oppressor? where is the wisdom in that? The enthronement of Hamas against Fatah have achieved nothing but undermined the peace process in the middle east, no amount of gory pictures or over hyped media propaganda will change that onerous fact.
People like to insult common sense but turn around to cry when the resultant effect of bad decision stare them in the face, since Hamas took over the leadership in Palestine, the Violent part of the whole agitation has intensified, yet Palestinians want peace, they want 2 state solution, they want the implementation of camp David accord, how can you get that? why is nobody looking at the biggest picture which is basically what common sense keeps on the table?
Now tell me, What makes Israel so thick? the USA alliance I guess, who formed that alliance? the AIPAC lobbyists, who designed it? when will the so called oppressed think like the oppressor? the oppressor is a small nation whom by virtue of alliance has become mighty, when will Palestinians eschew voting in terrorists who form alliance with Iran to supply them Rockets but cannot chart a workable diplomatic font for peace?
while you ponder over the above, also ask yourself why a Tiny nation like Montenegro is striving to join NATO? what is Iceland doing for NATO? what can they contribute into the NATO purse? the last time I checked, the 210 standing Army of Iceland is not even enough to protect its territorial integrity let alone fuel America's numerous wars, the Answer lies in wisdom, they are not there to contribute anything to NATO but to seek protection. what about Nations who have remained in EU just for Economic and Migration Salvation? are they all dumb?
It takes wise leadership to assess the vulnerabilities of his nation and design a workable peace plan, the self acclaimed Giant of Africa comes to mind, who needed foreign assistance for a mere kidnap situation. Think about it!!
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by jpphilips(m): 1:58pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
benebaby77: Before you guys make any opinions about the conflict in Israel and Gaza. pls check these facts and figures: 1. Gaza was invaded by Israel in 1967 & ever since Israel is illegally occupying the whole of the Gaza strip. 2. Gaza is surrounded on three sides by Israel who has blocked all these three sides by Israeli army.& Navy. One side is border of Egypt where the Egyptian army along with Israeli & UN observers & monitors blocks the entry of any body from/to Gaza. Gaza is literally huge prison where not even a bird can enter without Israel’s permission. 3. Gaza has no sea port or airport or even a train station. 4. Gaza residents cannot leave Gaza as they don’t even have passports. Plus there are Israeli checkpoints at every place. Also no one from any country can enter Gaza without Israel’s permission which is impossible to get , forget about ordinary man even the top politicians of powerful countries had been denied entry in Gaza by Israel. Gaza is a place which is totally cutoff from the rest of the world. 5. Each and every daily use commodities comes through these Israeli check points. Even the milk, wheat medicines all items come through these Israeli check points. Israel charge taxes on all the items witch goes through these check points. 6. Gaza is like a big jail. It is entire country under seize. Even inside Gaza Israel have several check posts at important junctions. The Israeli army harasses and humiliates Gaza citizens every day as the Gaza citizens cross these check posts. 7. The UN has urged Israel numerous times to remove this illegal seizure of Gaza but Israel never listen to UN . More then 50 resolutions have been passed by UN against Israel but with USA always on its side so Israel just doesn’t care. 8. The food and essentials are always in short supply in Gaza as Israel delays, discourages and harass its imports in Gaza. Shops don’t have enough rations, hospitals don’t have enough and essential medicines. Power is in short supply, petrol and gas is in shortage too. The inflation is highest in the world in Gaza as a result of it. The poverty is rising at the highest rate also. The Gaza children’s are among the worst malnutrition children now. 9. There are no specialized doctors or equipments to treat the serious injury or disease in any hospitals. Every now and then Israeli army bomb Gaza and the innocent civilians get hurt during bombing. These wounded civilians plead and beg in the check points to let them out for treatment but they kind Israeli army never let them. So the wounds which could have been treated become more severe and often the wounded becomes handicapped for the rest of their lives. 10. Once a thriving society and rich people now have become beggars & prisoners in their own country.Can you imagine the trauma the humiliation the harassment the pain in the hearts of these people who have been invaded and made prisoners and slaves in their own country? They have been struggling for their independence since almost 50 years now. With each passing day Israel is constructing new settlements for its Israeli citizens in their land. With each passing day their hope of independence, a hope to live a normal life like any other human is fading away. Every night they sleep in pain and every morning they wake up with sorrows. In the pretext of peace talks Israel actually is delaying their independence to capture more and more of their land everyday by constructing new Israeli homes and settlements. The Palestinians know this and they are watching it helplessly. Just like a goat watch the lion eats its children but can do nothing. They are shedding tears of blood. With Israeli soldiers harassing them , cursing them, abusing them mocking them, hurting them , killing them everyday in their very own land, all Palestinians can do is watch and cry. What suggestions do you have now? The western paid media is making & broadcasting news in such a manner that one should feel as if Gaza residence are the one who are occupying Israel and Israel is fighting for the it freedom...... If number 4 is true, how come I see on a daily basis press TV crew reporting Live!! from Gaza? If you claim Israel doesn't allow even world leaders there, are you insinuating they grant entry to Iran (press TV crew) their biggest enemy? Aljazeera report life from Gaza who granted them access? CNN is there, BBC is there let me assume they are friends of Israel, tell me, how did doctors without borders get into Gaza, I saw them on TV and I read comments from Amnesty international Live! in Gaza, If my TV is not photo shopped, then you have failed woefully in this attempt to demonize Israel. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by jpphilips(m): 1:15pm On Jul 22, 2014*. Modified: 11:03am On Jul 23, 2014 |
onitshaigbo: I'm so proud of my country Israel! Biafra will also rise and prosper in a region surrounded by enemies. mumu2!!!!Delafruita: this post reeks of ignorance not only of basic history but of international politics.[/b]the [b]isreal-palestine dispute is completely different from all those you listed.all those wanted to leave a union to stand alone.palestine was never part of isreal.infact palestine has never been part of any country.jordan first annexed the westbank from it in 48' claiming it was keeping it in trust till isreal seized it in 67'.isreal got its nation in 48' with its boundaries carved out.it refused the palestineans citizenship which they didnt want in the first place.many migrated to jordan where they received residence cards and eventual citizenship.others remained in palestine in hopes of a state.you see,all these problems were caused by the british.right from 1922 when they promised to divide the ottoman into jordan and palestine till 1946 when the carved out transjordan and then 1948 when they decided to give the palestinean lands to isreali "returnees".the palestinians have spent 7decades been stateless,oppressed,maimed and you expect them to rejoice? Do you know how annoying it is when a nonentity with comprehension problems just quotes your post, taking your entire post out of context?
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by jpphilips(m): 12:12pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
Delafruita: this isnt about what hamas is or isnt designated as.this is about isreal's insistence on encroaching into palestinean territory and using its allies to block palestine's bid for statehood.isreal insists it has withdrawn from palestine territory yet continues with its blockade.by the way,blockade is the new,refined term.it used to be intifada which it still is in action but not in name.obama has continued to re-echo that isreal has to agree to a two-state solution.give the palestines their darn country.egypt has been bought over with billions of dollars in aid.the camp david accord was supposed to broker peace and not make egypt a little puppy before isreal.its unfortunate sadat died and mubarak only cared about money and power.
The palestinians did almost everything asked of them.whenever a peace offering is brokered,they are always there.they were in oslo,arafat held a couple meetings with various isreali PMs,ehud refused to sign the final agreement in 99 and worse still leaked details of what the palestineans conceeded to the press thus embarassing arafat and Assad.
Isreal again decided not to elongate the moratarium on construction in the west bank in 2010 despite pleas from obama,the UN and even the entire world.
Have we so easily forgotten how isreal shelled innocent women and children with phosphorus bombs in january of 2010?how over 2500 people died?
Isreal is the aggressor here.palestine wants a state,give it to them wales, Scotland, Crimea, Fuji, Faulkland, Tibet, Biafra all have statehood I guess? lemme me be clear you descendants of an Incompetent administration, in world politics, it is not the amount of tears that gives you power, it is your alliance and sphere of influence that brings victory to the table. If It was by Tears, Biafra would have been a republic after all, we had kwashiokor sympathy to show for it. Who would believe that two world powers (Russia and China) could stand Gidigba!! behind Assad? That is what a robust foreign policy keeps on the table, tears cannot guarantee such. |
Politics › Re: Transformation Agenda: NNPC Boosts Refineries Production Capacity To 60% by jpphilips(m): 9:58am On Jul 22, 2014 |
0rlando0woh: From roads (ore etc) to railways to power sector privatisation to automobile manufacturing sector to agricultural revoultion and now refineries. Little by little GEJ is using his fresh air to solve the problems APC's Obasanjo made to look like rocket science. Where there is a will, there is a way! Nigerians never ask the right questions, shame on you!! |
Romance › Re: Myths About Men, Sex, And Marriage by jpphilips(m): 9:29am On Jul 20, 2014 |
njokusboy: Point number 5 is a big fat lie, no man intentionally marries established b'itc he's, now bitch is relative, going to the club does not make one a bi,t'ch, there are girls who go to a club with their boyfriends and respect themselves, but those who go to a club to attract other men and pitch in with every tom, d'i'c'k and harry are on another level... No responsible man wants them.. They can marry them without knowing their secrets though... Every man wants to marry a good girl not one that has been mounted by every stallion in town and has the attitude of a cheetah... Dat is why my igbo brothers sleep with 1000 girls and quietly return from the village with a little, ignorant unknown girl in tow.... Did you notice that the OP put an age limit to her observations? she said she realised it in her 30yrs of existence, if you are not 30, you will never understand what she is saying and she didn't expect you to either, reason for the disclaimer. The opinion I read here easily tells me that here is an assortment of minors, it doesn't mean they have nothing to offer but relationship wise, it will definitely be a mistake to take their words for anything. You said responsible men dont marry wh0res, who married Kim kardishian? who married JLO? who married Angelina Jolie? or are they not wh0res enough? How can you make such statement when I am sure you don't know what it takes for a man to be responsible? You said your ibo brothers pick wives from the village a naive mind you are, you thought they went for Virginia? lol the village gals are worse dan city gals, they just chose a soft target whom they will uplift financially in exchange for her unalloyed control. I am sure the OP never knew this when she was a teenager like you. for 19yr olds who are still drumming the chest of virginity, my take is this "may experience teach you better". |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Faces Of The Innocent Victims Of Flight MH17 That Killed All 298 People. by jpphilips(m): 8:40am On Jul 19, 2014 |
CyrusLevi: Did you watch Obama's address,lemme guess No,do you know Ukrainian Intelligence intercepted a phone call of the Pro-Russian Separatist acknowledging shooting the plane down. Even a wacky intelligence agency like Naija's can doctor such conversation it is not a big deal. Which airliners fly over war torn borders where they know there are active air defence systems? Its like Arik air flying over Syria. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Faces Of The Innocent Victims Of Flight MH17 That Killed All 298 People. by jpphilips(m): 8:27am On Jul 19, 2014 |
ifex370: choi... see this fine girl... *wipes tears like say even if she dey alive, she go reach you? why are they saying the plane was shot down? does it mean Nigerians and some foreign wacky press doesn't know what an air defence system and interceptors are? My only question about this incident is the "friend or foe" button, who disabled it? It prevents the interceptor from targeting air liners but fighter jets and cruise missile. |
Sports › Re: FIFA Lifts Ban On Nigeria by jpphilips(m): 8:14am On Jul 19, 2014 |
Fatdon: Goodluck doing good things for our county. Damn he is so dark. |
Health › Re: Lagos State Opens New Cardiac & Renal Centre (CRC) Gbagada Lagos. PICS. by jpphilips(m): 8:43pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
EkoIle1: This is really a life and money saver considering the lives lost to kidney disease and other related medical conditions Nigerians travel abroad to treat with billions on Naira every year. where will you get the donors? ojuelegba I guess |
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Science/Technology › Re: Nigerian Student Builds Solar-powered Car by jpphilips(m): 2:38pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
AjanleKoko: Here we go again 
Is the boy the president of Nigeria?  When you don't understand a post, you ask questions it is your right. what the young man you quoted said is called comparative advantage and his examples are so on point.
let me buttress further on it.
Since Nigeria is already making the best copper cables in the country, someone can come up with an Idea to use Nigeria cables to make alternators, such innovation will open a flood gate of inventions. It will equally be easier for the Govt to help such a person, It is not enough to design a funny looking solar car with zero economic importance to the populace and run around asking for money to either get stuck at some point or disappear out rightly.
The point is this, when you can use a Nigerian cable to round a coil, all the fans in Nigeria (can you guess how many?) will be relying on you, Generators etc, the Govt seeing your capacity can ban those components as spare parts from coming in, companies will come to you to ensure that you remain in business while they sell your coils (of-course with the Govt provided environment).
All these inventions are waste of man hour in my opinion, an invention is fused with business strategy, it has a target market, or you think the man who invented E=MC2 wanted to use it to take photographs?
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Science/Technology › Re: Nigerian Student Builds Solar-powered Car by jpphilips(m): 2:21pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
An opportunity for innoson to develop hybrid models |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Malawi Officially Suspends Anti-homosexuality Laws. by jpphilips(m): 12:43pm On Jul 17, 2014 |
IdiatFF: I think this is a wrong move for Joyce Banda and her cabinet; this is very un-African. When will African countries stop been beggar nations? Malawi has shown that it's a beggar nation by this act. It's an act of cowardice and it thus confirms what Ms Dambisa Moyo argued in her book 'Dead Aid'. Our leaders are just too lazy and very uncreative. What has Banda done to making sure Malawi moves away from depending on aid from these western countries who never mean well for her country? .. mtchew!!!!!!!! How much have your state and federal governments collected as foreign loans this year alone, even $1b is about to fly in from tomorrow, the earlier Africans understand that our leaders mismanage our resources so well that we are mere beggars to the outside world, the better for us. Senator MC Cain used a derogatory term on Jonathan the other time, Nigerians ran amok, tell me, who takes a beggar seriously these days? |
Health › Re: JOHESU Sues NMA, Says Doctors Strike Illegal by jpphilips(m): 12:05pm On Jul 17, 2014 |
nnewa: Benjamin Chukwunonso Ajufo THE NIGERIAN HEALTH SECTOR: THE FACE OF JANUS AND THE MATCH TOWARDS TOPHET! BY AJUFO,BENJAMIN CHUKWUNONSO The Nigerian Health Sector has been in the news for some time now, as a result of the lingering crisis that has bedeviled the Sector. The HEALTH sector is expected to be a place of total wellbeing but why is there so much hostility in the Sector which has taken a hydra-headed form? Why is the Sector matching towards Tophet; the Valley of Destructio
n? There is so much misinformation, impunity, violation of Established Rules and Codes of Conduct. Why is the Place polarized with mistrust, and disharmony? Why has the Government allowed herself to become a pawn in the hands of Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) and Medical and Dental Consultants Association(MDCAN) which are not legally recognized Trade Unions ? Why does the Government allow double Standards within the same Sector? The government that was able to restrain a registered Trade Union from going on strike has not stopped an unregistered body posturing as a Trade Union. Why has the Government allowed the Constitution of the Federal Republic, to be violated by NMA who sees herself as the Imperial Majesty, who must continue to subjugate other workers in the Health Sector? Before we bring answers to these numerous WHYS, let us x-ray the pathogenesis of the crisis in the Health Sector. SALARY STRUCTURES IN THE HEALTH SECTOR Under the then President, His Excellency Alhaji Umaru Musa Yar’Adua, the Nigerian Government in 2009 had approved two different Salary Structures in the Health Sector. These two Salary Scales were known as Consolidated Medical Salary Scale (CONMESS) and Consolidated Health Salary Scale (CONHESS).Medical Doctors in the Service of the Nigerian Civil Service are on CONMESS, while every other person working in the Health Sector was placed under the CONHESS structure. Before the emergence of the late President UMARU MUSA YAR’ ADUA, President Olusegun Obasanjo, had placed all Nigerian Health Workers under a unified Salary Scale.NMA had seriously kicked against this unified Salary Scale. It was NMA that negotiated CONMESS for her members while the Joint Health Sector Union (JOHESU), a recognized Trade Union made up of all Unions in the Health Sector outside Medical Doctors, negotiated CONHESS for her members. Below is the two Salary Scales. CONMESS SALARY SCALE CONMESS 01----- HOUSE OFFICER/YOUTH CORPS DOCTOR – Grade Level 10 CONMESS 02----- Registrar/Medical Officer - Grade Level 12 CONMESS 03----- Senior Registrar Grade 11/Senior Medical Officer Grade 2 Grade Level 13 CONMESS 04---- - Senior Registrar Grade 1/Senior Medical Officer Grade 1 Grade level 14 CONMESS 05------ Consultant/Principal Medical officer Grade 2 Grade Level 15 CONMESS 06------ Consultant Special Grade 2/ Principal Medical Officer Grade 1 Grade Level 16 CONMESS 07-------Consultant Special Grade 1/Chief Medical Officer Grade Level 17 CONHESS SALARY SCALE CONHESS 7 INTERNS/NYSC ----------- Grade Level 8 CONHESS 8 X -Officer 1 ----------- Grade Level 9 CONHESS 9 Senior X-Officer ----------- Grade Level 10 CONHESS 11 Principal X- Officer ----------- Grade Level 12 CONHESS 12 Assistant Chief X-Officer ------------ Grade Level 13 CONHESS 13 Chief X-Officer ------------- Grade Level 14 CONHESS 14 Assistant Director X-Officer ---------- Grade Level 15 CONHESS 15 Deputy Director X-Officer ------------- Grade Level 16 CONHESS 16 Director X-Officer ---------------------Grade Level 17 THE FACE OF JANUS AND THE MATCH TOWARDS TOPHET! In the late 2009, NMA, started a campaign of calumny, against members of JOHESU , that they were Skipping, which she alleged as a violation of Government policy. And they as Medical Doctors are treated unjustly in the health sector .As shown above, we have seen that NMA members were the greatest beneficiary of the Government approved Salary Scale, with higher entry point and jumbo pay.NMA was of the opinion that any member of JOHESU, who had moved from CONHESS 9 -to CONHESS 11, should be brought down by one grade level. JOHESU members were unjustly accused of skipping and the polity was heated up. The Public Service Rule provides in 020205 and 020205 (e)- To be eligible for appointment into the Federal Public Service (e) possess requisite qualifications as provided for in the scheme of service. The accusation was faulty because in the Scheme of Service for JOHESU members, there was nothing like Grade level 11.In fact it is a misnomer to term the movement from Grade Level 10 to Grade Level 12 skipping. This is not skipping, because there is no level 11 and what you have in the Scheme of Service is movement from Grade level 10 to 12.The Ministry of Health was seeing through the prism and binoculars of NMA. She supported the recommendation subscribed by NMA that all JOHESU members who have moved from Grade Level 10 to Grade level 12 should be brought down by one Grade level. In a circular dated 11th of January 2010 , with reference number HCSF /EPO/ EIR/RR/B.63755/T1/77 ,the office of the Head of Service of the Federation stopped the movement of JOHESU members from Grade 10 to Grade level 12. About a year later, the Head of Service in a similar circular dated 10th of February, 2011 with reference number HCSF/EPO/EIR/63755/T1/149 called the movement of Workers from Grade 10 to Grade Level 12 an unauthorized Skipping. By June 2011, the Health Sector was already heated up with drum beats of war between the Workers under the aegis of JOHESU and the Nigerian Government represented by the Ministry of Health. It should be recalled, that as at June 28th 2010, in a meeting held at JUTH GUEST HOUSE in Abuja all Chief Medical Directors and Medical Directors under the auspices of Committee of Chief Executives, Federal Tertiary Aspect in Nigeria, unanimously agreed and released a memo with the reference number CCEHTH/SEC/V.1/86 on the 29th of June 2010 addressed to all Chief Executives of Federal Health Institutions. Article 3 on the topic was- implementation of circular on CONTISS forbidding skipping of Grade Level 10 or any Grade level. The decision taken was;-(1) Members decided that by July this year (2010) all Federal Tertiary Hospital should have fully implemented the circular with effect from 1st April 2010.All officers who had skipped Grade level 10 should be brought down by one grade level except those occupying the appointive posts of Director of Administration.(2)To effect this all CF.Os should simultaneously issue a circular to all affected staff on the 12th July,2010 informing them of the plan to implement the circular in July. This memo was signed by M O. Adeoba for: Chairman CCEFTH. Immediately this directive was later implemented, the Health Sector was thrown into chaos, JOHESU gave the Government ultimatum to change her decisions which was not workers friendly, but the Government refused. Moreover the Government failed to implement agreements signed with JOHESU since 2009. This was now followed with a Strike action by JOHESU who accused, the Government of not keeping with the principle of Collective Bargaining. As a result of the crisis in the health Sector on the 9th of August 2011, The Minister of Labour waded into the matter, but the Ministry of Health was not satistisfied by the resolution, and the matter was later taken to the National Industrial Court for adjudication. After a legal battle between the Ministry of Health and JOHESU, the Court ruled in favour of JOHESU in 2013, that Government was wrong to have denied JOHESU members her right. And that JOHESU members appointed Consultants were wrongfully stopped as consultants. After the judgment, from nowhere, NMA/MDCAN who were not a party to the suit, cried foul that the Court Judgment should not be implemented. They as usual were the one that hoodwinked the Government, to have taken the wrong decision that was upturned by the Court. Suddenly they started accusing government of favouring JOHESU members, and that they must skip, even though that no JOHESU member was skipping. Now that the Government is trying to muster the courage to do what is right, NMA/MDCAN has chosen to fight the Nigerian patients, by denying them services and declaring a strike action. Note that it is the same patient they have told the world that they own and that all their actions is for the best interest of the patient. Today NMA/MDCAN who insisted that they must have a different salary structure are the ones imposing on the Government what other employees should earn .The same NMA/MDCAN that wrongfully accused JOHESU members of skipping and even lost this matter in court is the one, now championing skipping for her members, even when doctors scheme of service does not grant such. What a double standard! NMA/MDCAN AND CALCULATED SABOTAGE. Since July 1st 2014,NMA AND MDCAN have denied patients the right to treatment even when the National Industrial Court had ruled that all parties involved should maintain status quo ante. Dr Obembe the leader of NMA, who also happens to be a member of MDCAN has continued to defy Court orders under the guise that it is MDCAN that went to Court. One is forced to ask, “Is Dr Obembe not a member of MDCAN”? Again, does NMA have the moral justification to call for strike when she is not a Trade Union? Can NMA go on strike on an issue that is already before a Court of competent jurisdiction? How does NMA think that the Government will be negotiating with her on an issue before the Court? MDCAN in a calculated ploy to deceive the Nigerian populace came on air to declare that they are not on strike and that they are not joining NMA in the strike action. The truth of the matter is that MDCAN is on strike they are not on ground, and they are not working. MDCAN and her fellow consultants, who have so designated themselves as the owner of the patients, have abandoned the patient they say they own. On the so called minimal achievable demand, NMA should be told in clear terms that they are not achievable. In the immortal words of the erudite Justice Niki Tobi, JCA ( as he then was) “when an issue is before a Court of competent jurisdiction, even though it takes time, the parties must wait ,they must not jump the gun, they cannot go for self help” What NMA is doing now is self help and transfer of aggression on the innocent patients they have acclaimed to own. The issues raised by NMA/MDCAN are before a court, so negotiations and decisions cannot be taking on such matters. NMA/MDCAN strike is a strike of Prejudice and Ego trip, and Government should be firm to stop this hydra-headed problem. The Members of the National Assembly and the Government should not cave in to the blackmail by NMA/MDCAN. They must be firm to make NMA/MDCAN see that their actions are against the state. This is the only way to make NMA/MDCAN amenable to the laws of the land and eschew impunity. The Government should know that Nigerians and indeed the world is watching! JOHESU members account over 95% of the Healthcare work force, so the Government must be careful not to be seen to show favoritism. But must stand on the pedestal of equity and justice to call a spade a spade. The agitation by NMA/ MDCAN that only they should be Directors, Hospital Chief Executives, and Consultants should be jettisoned in a jiffy. This is because such demands are not supported by any statute in Nigeria. If one is to use the principle of balance of convenience, how does appointing other healthcare experts as Directors, Consultants in their specialized disciplines, affect members of NMA/MDCAN? Even when the different approved scheme of service, for all these professionals, allows them to reach the zenith of their career and recognizes such appointments. How does it affect NMA/MDCAN?. NMA/MDCAN should know that the other Healthcare Workers are not a conquered people and that the hospital is not their capitalist empire. The hospital is a government parastatals set by law and must operate within the confines of the law setting it up.NMA/MDCAN should throw away the toga of medical capitalism and imperialism by embracing medical humanism. A Physician is expected to be compassionate, and service oriented devoid of prejudice. NMA/MDCAN should go and study the preamble to the declaration of Independence of the United States of America, composed in 1776 which reads thus, “We hold these truth to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” So do all medical personnel in the health sector who is not an allopathic physician do affirm. NMA/MDCAN should know that for a nation to excel, it must be build on equality of all men, rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.NMA/MDCAN are not the employers of the Nigerian Health Workers, so she cannot decide what Nigerian Health Workers get. The issue of relativity is unfounded and has no basis on any Nigerian Statute book even indeed world over. No professional’s wage bill is determined by the wage bill of another, but by Governments’ Terms of Appointment into the Service. On the floor of the Nigerian National Assembly, when, the incumbent Minister of Health, Prof Onyebuchi Chukwu ,was being screened to become a Minister, he was asked, “how would he maintain peace in the health sector that has been so laden with interprofessional disharmony?”. The Minister answered that he would do all it takes to bring harmony into the sector. Again, he was also asked, “what are his views that only one professional group is the one virtually in control in the health sector and that other healthcare professionals are not so involved in leadership of the System?”. The Min. of Health again answered; that “we will get there that it is a gradual process that things are changing.” To the Most HIGH be the glory that the Hon Minister told the world ,that his action of stopping the consultancy status of other health workers, was as a result of the complain made by NMA. It is on the same issue, that the National Industrial Court has said that, that action was in error, a violation of workers right to collective bargain. Now that the Hon. Min. of Health has started seeing that NMA/MDCANS’ actions, are in bad faith, he must be firm to right the structural injustices in the Health Sector. So that he would have lived up to his words, “that he would do everything in his power to bring harmony in the health sector.” The crisis in the health sector has gotten to where it is today, because of the over bearing attitude of some allopathic physicians, who have forgotten that medicine is the art, act and science of healing, whose scope is beyond allopathic medicine. It is highly unfortunate that NMA/MDCAN leadership personified in the person of Dr Obembe has suddenly forgotten that the word medical is an adjective which means related to the art, act and science of healing. A situation, where allopathic physicians in a false mindset sees only themselves as being medical and other healthcare experts as non medical breeds/creates a wrong image. The future allopathic physicians must be nursed and nurtured to have a mind set of medical humanism to give a good medical image that does not thrive on rancor, falsehood and a doctored ideology. The word medical is not a synonym for a doctor, for if it were, it would not be seen placed in front of the word doctor as in the term “medical doctor” for that will be tautology. Every healthcare professional involved with the act, art and science related to healing are all medical personnel. So the word medical is not an exclusive term to designate allopathic physicians but all that is involved with healing and healthcare services. Conclusion Now that it is so glaring that NMA/MDCAN strike is sabotage against the state, because they are causing untold hardship to the citizens of Nigeria. This as a result of their ego driven demands. And have failed to obey Government orders, because most hospital Chief Executives being members of MDCAN are in sympathy with them. They have failed to call NMA/MDCAN to order to suspend the strike, even when there is a court order. As a result of the death of Nigerians, based on this sabotage, the Federal Government should invoke the powers conferred on her in section 18(1) and 18(2) of University Teaching Hospitals (Reconstruction of Boards, etc) Act CAP 463 LFN which states 18(1) “The President may, notwithstanding any provision of this Act, take such measures as occasion may warrant in order to improve the efficiency or due administration of the teaching hospitals specified in the Schedule to this Act.” 18(2) “ For the purpose of section (1 )of this section, the President may appoint or give such authority for the appointment of Military Commandments to take charge of administration of any of the teaching hospitals specified in this Act for such period as may be stipulated in the authority. Again, section 19 of the act, on the definition of hospital states “Hospital includes all institutions (however called) controlled by the board.” Government should as a matter of urgency bring sanity into the system by making sure; that this sabotage by allopathic doctors is stopped. The Government should declare their actions illegal. As the Health Sector moves towards TOPHET a symbol of collapse, we must do all it takes to salvage her, by doing what is right! AJUFO,BENJAMIN CHUKWUNONSO. WRITES FROM ASABA IS the Secretary Association of Medical laboratory Scientists Delta State Branch. 16/7/14 you want the govt to return the wicked people who have been oppressing you in the interest of the patient? so what exactly do you have to offer the patient, if the monster has to be recalled?
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Health › Re: JOHESU Sues NMA, Says Doctors Strike Illegal by jpphilips(m): 8:58am On Jul 17, 2014 |
thuao: The battle in health sector has taken another turn as johesu has sued nma over the illegality of their strike
http://www.punchng.com/news/johesu-sues-nma-says-doctors-strike-illegal/ How is the NMA strike affecting JOHESU who by virtue of politics have attained the highest medical toga "consultant"? Are they indirectly telling us that the new consultants paid from tax payers money are useless because the absence of the old consultants have collapsed the health sector? #just thinking aloud# |
Health › Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by jpphilips(op): 8:45am On Jul 17, 2014 |
prettyprettywow: lol. so much bitterness. pele This is the kinda phrase that really piss me off, what bitterness are you referring to? are JEHUSITES the only civil servants in Nigeria?
In most companies I am aware of, some OH(occupational health) nurses are MSc holders, yet companies start them at entry level with Engineers, have they gone to JOHESU to report that the companies have refused to recognize their MSc status?
Some construction companies keep OH nurses as project staff not even main staff, have they complained? all the company needs you for is just to administer first aid, and prolly dispense cough syrup, analgesics and antibiotics, is that why they have to pay for the silly MSc that does not benefit their operations? the company has a policy that if someone is sick, administer first aid to stabilize the patient, Use the ambulance and take him to a retainer ship clinic that has been paid for, so what is your MSc actually doing for them to pay you outrageous wages.
I don't blame you guys, It is only in govt establishments you will want to be a consultant with zero academic and clinical upgrade.
what do you want architects in Ministry of urban development to demand? what do you want the Engineers in the Ministry of works to demand, bureaucracy will not help anybody in this country. |
Health › Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by jpphilips(op): 8:08pm On Jul 16, 2014*. Modified: 10:37am On Jul 17, 2014 |
Samgreguc: av adviced u to go make a research on the world consult before inorder to show me where the meaning states that it is Physicia-only but, u seem adamat to dat. . After your research, we can talk. . . . . . Clinical Pharmacy is more than despensing but, we dont seem wanting to adopt it and thats one reason why we are where we are. . . Until, we cherish our Pharmacist as supposed and allow them play their role, we will never get good health care. Sorry dear, Nigerian tax payers are not paying for a mere dictionary word, once JOHESU gets it, they will demand for harmonized salary with physicians when they know their input is no where near, I am not ok! with that.
secondly, the furore between the reg nurse and Bsc nurse did not look themselves up in the dictionary so why will I need a dictionary to leach a worker who is shying away from responsibilities while aspiring to dine with the gods?!
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Health › Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by jpphilips(op): 7:46pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
Samgreguc: are u this like this? . Are they Physicians? . Maybe the Physician wil also produce the drugs? . Whether we like it or not Physicians can't do all what others can do and vice versa so, what's the basis for that phrase(same capacity)? . . . Please, be truthful okey? If they are not physicians, why are they aspiring to eat the physicians pie? If they are not physicians, why will they want the physicians title? If they can only dispense drugs, by all means stick to your B.pharm and D.pharm respectively and trust me, NMA wont complain. OR Do you want Nigerian tax payers to pay you a consultant's fee just for dispensing drugs? haba! what else is theft? |
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Travel › Re: 8 Most Expensive Cities In Nigeria? by jpphilips(m): 7:22pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
customized13: dat means ph is cheap na, if you pay 500k per annum in GRA, some parts in lagos pay 1.2million per annum. The guy who told you rent in GRA PH is 600k must be a beneficiary of abandoned property. |
Health › Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by jpphilips(op): 6:09pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
GentleMimi: Bullcrap. You sure know a lot about low IQs,cos u've exhibited it to the point of seeking so hard for fear and respect. Tah! Make i begin fear you,because u type in blue fonts. Mucheche!. Abt four people or more also doubted your ''patient'' status. That shows u're not too smart abt hiding it. Yet u talk of ''intelligence''. Uhuuun.. I must consider Tbamo's advise at this point for the sake of this thread, if I further this discussion, you will likely drag me to your vile level and beat me with your years of practice but before I leave you to continue your romance with the jungle, I must say that If you call yourself a medical practitioner who wish to become a consultant yet, you fail to identify an impostor in your profession, forgive me to say that you don't have the mental capacity to handle patients let alone identify a fake doctor who manged to sneak past security in your clinic.
I am extremely excited that the whole world have seen the quality and depth of urchins who want to head our hospitals, nematodes who want to be addressed as consultants with the hope of stealing from the public via fat wages. |