₦airaland Forum

remzytimer: This is a nice development in our petroleum sector, 75 naira is good start by the time more competitors comes in' the price will fall, that was how it started with MTN In our telecommunication sector compared to now that there are a lot of competitors is that sector... My prayers is that our law makers would not sabotage this development for their own self interest or be influenced by the big boys (cabals).

energy pricing vs telecom pricing lol some Nigerians need help

homerac7: oga, ur position is weak against Nigeria's foreign policy as it concerns West Africa and Africa in general.

secondly, it's not just a foreign policy matter, but a real and imminent threat; a cancer; an infestation; a syndrome that if it dare goes unchecked, will grow, consume other nations around and look us right in d eyes to eat us up. it's a war u either fight abroad now and likely win, or fight in ur home later and likely perish.

Which "more militarily superior" country is to act the "head man" in ECOWAS region other than Nigeria? and, which other major militarily competent countries is affected enough to lead the operation in Africa apart from Nigeria? Do u know the first two mission commanders of UNMISUD (UN Mission in Sudan)? Maj. Gen. Okonkwo (NA) and Lt Gen. Martin Luther Agwai (NA). by your line, one would expect Gen. Ali Mohammed of Egyptian Army or Gen Julius Muleke of Ethopian Army, isnt it?

Al Quaeda has 2 major hot spots in Africa, Somalia and Mali. UN, EU, AU, NATO and other major alliances r battling Al Shabab in Somalia because of how d local problem has created internatinal shipping problems due to security risks in Gulf of Aden. Hope u know also that it is entrance to d busiest sea gateway in d world - Suez Canal. Do u know d international political c.u.m economic effect of stifling a gateway? Ask Nasser of Egypy when he blocked it during d Yom Kippur War.

FRom above, Mali is an infestation dt must not be allowed to spread. unlike Somalia, it is in a region of mainly unstable and semi-stable nations. with little effort, u will end up having a Sahara belt of unstable region. only little time more will make the relatively more stable ones like Nigeria, Ghana, Benin, Togo and others to collapse into d cesspit of evil. Now u have d impending big picture. by the way, do u know how long it took the rogues to take over the vast swath of northern Mali? No, ...not years, ...just a matter of days!

Nigeria isn't just playing a big brother here, but standing in to her role in time of necessity. Did I hear u say Big Brother role hasn't benefitted Nigeria? My friend, u must b joking. The squabbles with Nigeria isn't a challenge of authority, but fear of total dominance. Do u know who represents African in the UN security council after a rigorous campain and politricking? ...or do u think they just allowed us on some concessionary ground? I will understand if u say that we haven't made the maximum benefit from it, but as bad as it is, when Nigeria sneezes, West Africa catches cold, and the other African nations quickly bring out their "baba blue". Otherwise, ask South Africa after two major diplomatic slaps dis year alone.

My brother, i can go on and on and on, but one thing i will like to establish is that Nigeria might be many things, but its not for ordinary that other need to form "gangs" to b able to oppose us.

Peace bro

secondly, it's not just a foreign policy matter, but a real and imminent threat; a cancer; an infestation; a syndrome that if it dare goes unchecked, will grow, consume other nations around and look us right in d eyes to eat us up. it's a war u either fight abroad now and likely win, or fight in ur home later and likely perish.

Which "more militarily superior" country is to act the "head man" in ECOWAS region other than Nigeria? and, which other major militarily competent countries is affected enough to lead the operation in Africa apart from Nigeria? Do u know the first two mission commanders of UNMISUD (UN Mission in Sudan)? Maj. Gen. Okonkwo (NA) and Lt Gen. Martin Luther Agwai (NA). by your line, one would expect Gen. Ali Mohammed of Egyptian Army or Gen Julius Muleke of Ethopian Army, isnt it?

Which "more militarily superior" country is to act the "head man" in ECOWAS region other than Nigeria?

idowuswap: Kai igbo don start killing their brothers bcuz of money.well na so then kill cyntia bcuz of then plenty 4 prison like flies.even robbery na dem but police they kill them like fowl.

At what level will you consider your mental state critical

Jenams: u under rate †ЂΞ nigerian army! Go read about their xploits ok

homerac7: madam, chillax. he's there to finalize talks on deployment of Nigeria-led UN backed ECOWAS military intervention force to "restore" order to d Islamic militants occupied northern part of the country. we hav got to take the war back to where they brought it in to our homes. its where Al Qaueda and her surrogates trained and equipped Boko Haram. Its either we do this and they do us.

candieangel12: I dunno how my future hubby will react but hopefully he will be a strong man that wont be a wimp at the sight of childbirth, especially since I want 2 have my children naturally at home in the bathtub. Something about water birth fascinates me

jide4lagos: so they are also fighting each others.

Wsdm: ...... And you think the land of whom the government claim to give you now will ever see you as rightfull owners? Ask those who have spent more than 200 years on a particular land and are still refers to as "settlers". My advise to you is to stay in your ancestral home and start negotiating a peaceful coexistence with you new country. May God see you all through all this unimaginable predicament.

Billyonaire: Its simple. Simply believe its your fault that she is nagging and do your utmost best to fulfill all that she desires. Believe me it works when you take charge and do all the lady needs done.

Zutchy: He has,done more than enough to deserve a return,he is putting in place the skeletal and economic structure that Nigeria as a country lacks but is needed to be in the 21st century,come 2015 my dear friend,by the time the fruits of all that GEJ and his team are doing would have manifested themselves unto you doubting Nigerians,you shall all go and queue with your new electronic voters card and vote him back into power,o yes,it shall come to pass inshi Allah

nurus: I tink giving them query and witholding their salaries could have been better.The punishment is too harsh.

afroxyz: If you work in the oil industry, then you would know that there is some credibility of what he said. The sound like bunkerers really

torkaka: @jp phillips

mind you, the gun angle is still plausible. was the gun shot before he shouted thief,thief or was it shot to disperse the crowd that had converged on hearing the words thief,thief?

torkaka: they'll have to really prove the gun shot theory(was it shot in the air or was it shot in a way someones life was threatened?) plus the gun shot theory will only to an extent be favorable to lucky. on the other hand, the "thief.thief" angle will slightly be favourable to the vigilante as they'll will claim they acted upon the false alarm raised by lucky. this connects with the IG saying lucky raised a false alarm even though lucky was not yet caught!
the vigilante must have been the ones(i am assuming) that told the IG it was a false alarm (by their so claiming,lucky will be the major principal in the murder since he deceived them).
however the IG was a bit in a hurry to make the false alarm statement, notwithstanding the main issue remains; were the boys thieves? this is where the defence will make or break the case!!

cap28: Coxson knew who was at his door, infact he let the 5 boys into his house and a fight ensued, he knew they were not armed robbers.He knew the implications of shouting "thief" because of the general bad feeling in the village following a series of robberies that had gone on, he knew that anyone accused of theft in that village would be dealt with severely but he went ahead and accused them of being thiefs all the same and the rest is history.

Coxson had been avoiding his creditor for months, this has all been corroborated, he therefore had a motive to do away with the source of his problem and that is why he decided to deal with the boys by having them permanently eliminated from his life.

The idea that Coxson shouted "thief" because unknown gunmen appeared at his door is a fallacy - if he was so afraid - why did he open the door? He opened door because he knew who they were.

torkaka: Presumption of Innocence: under the Nigerian Constitution, every person accused of a crime is presumed innocent. Even if a person is found committing a crime, the law still confers on that person the presumption of innocence.
In a plain language, presumption of innocence means that every person alleged to have committed a crime must be first tried and found guilty before he can be punished.

The only exception to this presumption of innocence is when a person pleads guilty in a court of law and in that situation; the court is allowed to impose punishment at that point. However, a court may not be able to impose any punishment outright where the crime committed is a capital one. The court must still go into full trial before any punishment can be imposed, that is, if he is found guilty.

NOW FOR THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF THIEF;

thief
   [theef] Show IPA

noun, plural thieves.
a person who steals, especially secretly or without open force; one guilty of theft or larceny.


NOW MY FRIEND, WHO FINDS SOME ONE GUILTY OF A CRIME,LARCENY OR THEFT UNDER NIGERIAN LAWS? I HAVE SHOWN YOU WHAT THE NIGERIAN CONSTITUTION SAYS ABOUT CALLING ONE A THIEF WITHOUT TRIAL. I NOW BEG YOU, PLEASE SHOW ME THE PART OF OUR CONSTITUTION OR LEGAL LAWS THAT GIVES ANYONE THE RIGHT TO CALL ANOTHER A THIEF WITHOUT TRIAL SIMPLY BECAUSE HE KNOCKED AT SOMEONE'S DOOR?!

KNOW THIS,CASES ARE NOT WON BY EVERYDAY DEFINITIONS OF TERMS AND EVENTS.

tribalism: "If his life was threatened that night, his alarm is truly justified" Quite agree with you but were I to foresee death of the boys at a given time, I would have offered the truth. So I still blame him for keeping quiet and those boys died so the debt will die too. That is believing the story of debt collection as their mission.

silvernus0: WHO IS LYING TO NIGERIANS ??

POLICE , YOU SAID THE MOD CHASED U WITH STONES BUT WE DID NOT FIND ANY ATOM OF STONE USED ON THAT MURDER , WE SAW THEM BEATEN WITH PLANKS AND WOODS DEATH AND BURNT


OHHHHH POLICE IN MY MOTHER LAND ....I CRY FOR U

https://www.nairaland.com/1075151/police-why-couldnt-save-aluu

smtx: Next time wait for fresh facts before displaying outright ignorance in public.

smtx: Next time wait for fresh facts before displaying outright ignorance in public.

smtx: @jp phillips...these where exactly your quotes:

my guess? his group, Nigerian cultists are notorious for retaliatory hits.

every aspects of this story so far revealed, points to one direction "CULTISM", until we see fresh facts that speak otherwise, i will gladly apologize and withdraw my comments


God in his infinite wisdom has used the vigilante to save 1 life at the expense of 4, what am i supposed to do about that? cry


the only pointers sacrosanct in nature are;

for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction..........Sir isaac newton
what you sow, you shall reap..............Good book.

Match them with your recent post...Mr Sabi-sabi.

ur sponsor is in trouble, is English language this hard what a shame, read the bold part of my post twice and quickly go refund your school fees to your parents.

some one that threw a "guess" at you, you interpret his comment as sure, someone that declared "awaiting fresh facts" is "sabi sabi!!". i doubt if a miracle can trim the rough edges of your ignorance.
low iQ, is nothing to be proud of.

you are a disgrace.

smtx: You are always hearing things ...that's schizophrenia...n u believe speculations, dats DUMB!

They said there were robbers, cultist and now they are tenants. "Nobody really knows" but ur posts didnt say "speculations",u were so sure. You based your fact on a video posted by celebritytalkonline which was another "speculation"?...and anyone reading your post thinks you have all the facts and that those kids deserved it? You quoted "what you reap, you shall sow" and all. And now "Nobody really knows". Guy u r very UNSTABLE...check yourself!

obowunmi: How can a man as grown as coxson borrow money from 18 year olds what an idiot.

smtx: @jp philips...you are shifting ground, u r like a masquerade changing its steps to suite the drummers beat, you are like the reptile changing its skin to suite the environment. You called people names to prove your point. Infact you quoted Isaac Newton's law, the law of karma,and the holy book...u were of the opinion that they deserved what they got and here you are again saying:"Bright was aware the guys were not thieves no doubt" IMAGINE! YOU SHOULD BOW YOUR HEAD IN SHAME! MR SABI-SABI.

smtx: I seem not to get u at all...are trying to change your views?

Ibaku: This bros u are very funny, he ran after the help he called for had arrived, then if he knew they will be taken to the chief he should have gone with them, as †ђε̲ complainant, if he really wanted them to get justice there. For me, he is †ђε̲ first one that would be found guilty. Then †ђε̲ chief, for not demanding to hear from †ђε̲ complainant before passing judgement. Then finally each and everyone that participated i̲̅n †ђε̲ lynching to death of those boys. Thank u.

Who should report to the chief, the debtor or the creditor

creditor resorted to intimidation and violence while debtor aggravated the violence he brought to save his A.r.se, what are we supposed to do about it?

cap28: i cant believe people like you exist - but i guess life in nigeria has dehumanised people so badly that human life means nothing hence the existence of people like you.

Bright aka Coxson owed money to one of the young men, he had been avoiding this young man for months, when this young man turned up early in the mornign along with his friends to demand payment he refused to pay up and a fight ensued, in order to avoid paying his creditor Coxson aka Bright resorted to alerting the resident lynch mob who immediately swung into action and began beating the alleged theifs. Coxson knew the victims were not armed robbers, why would he borrow money from armed robbers? this was Coxson's vindictive way of getting out of paying back his debt and being a nasty, malicious and evil piece of shi.t he didnt give a damn about the consequences of his actions. he knew very well that screaming "theif" could end up with those guys losing their lives at the hands of this braindead illiterate lynch mob but he didnt care, the only thing that was uppermost in Coxson's mind was NOT PAYING BACK THE MONEY HE OWED, so try and get this through your skull.

People like you are the reason nigeria is in such a pathetic state, your inability to reason like a human being and your terrible lack of compassion for your fellow man is beyond belief, why are you so intent in depicting a nasty vindictive piece of shi.t as some sort of hero?

Bright aka Coxson owed money to one of the young men, he had been avoiding this young man for months, when this young man turned up early in the mornign along with his friends to demand payment he refused to pay up and a fight ensued,

snowprince01: His life was threatened nd he screamed thief, what about after d boize were caught, why did he not say they were not robbers bt came to collect dept in a forceful way?..u b total mumu nd u reason only 1 sided.. If its dat easy for him to just say his life was threatened nd all case will b dropped, then why is he on d run?

Biggyd2: Whether or not the 4 students committed any crime is not the issue. The question is- WAS THE KILLING BY THE ALUU COMMUNITY JUSTIFIED UNDER THE LAW? NO!

chronique: @jp philips:

You really have a low I.Q and bad education as far as this subject is concerned. So,the judge will set the accused/suspect(s) free for saying/trying to prove that they were a threat to his life if he provides witnesses? What constitutes threat? Are you aware that the victims in death are presumed innocent of the crime? Did they find any weapon on any of them? Even if the debtor calls witnesses to say they saw them with weapons,are you aware that the weapons will have to be provided and forensic tests would be carried out to determine whose finger prints are on those weapons? If you claim they were cultists/thieves,where are the weapons/stolen items recovered from them(in the video)? No evidence of any stolen item/weapon in the recording. Moreover,ignorance is not an excuse in the court of law. No citizen has the right to kill a "suspect" who is suppose to be "innocent" until proven guilty in the court of law. Self defence doesnt apply here cos they weren't killed during a fight or arguement. This is a case of a properly planned action which can be termed as "malicious" as they were paraded naked,their rights to fair hearing was violated,they were beaten for hours before finally being set ablaze. They had the victims for hours & didn't hand them over to the police/law enforcement agents. Moreover,the police are claiming they were chased away with stones from the mob. This worsens the defence of the suspect(s) in custody as they'd also be accused of deliberately obstructing justice. Under this scenario,self defence doesnt apply. Salient points should be noted here: the sibling of one of the victim had identified at least one of them as her brother & pleaded that he wad innocent. But she was bullied & threatened to run away or risk being added to the four. This means that the only option for them at that point should have been handing over suspects to the police since someone was identified. It would have been a little bit more difficult if no one was able to identify at least one of them. Pls dont go about misinforming people on subjects you have no proper/comprehensive knowledge/information about. Thanks.
I wouldn't have replied but then,you've shown so much ignorance in your thesis above. You need proper education on the matter at hand before you can speak. No legal practictioner will back you up with all these stuffs you wrote above.

Decryptor: Are u sure that this JP Philips is not the guy who planked those boys? Cos with the above comments, one can deduce that you don't have an iota of symphaty in you...I'm beginning to suspect you o! What is the meaning of the "JP" in your name? "Just Planking" Phillips?

azimibraun: Claimed his life ws threatend? And after d boys wia arrested did he come out 2 say he ws threatend or they came 2rob him? He shouted thief thief and nt killers killers.. Wia is d story of the laptop and fone frm? Do u shout thief thief @ killers? He hs no case. And besides d boys are dead and are presumed innocent of d crime.

occam: You don't get it. do you? This is the outrage most of us feel: That in modern day Nigeria, anybody can still be LYNCHED AND BURNT to death in broad day light. This is a level of barbarism that is truly alien to any civilized society. Also, the inevitable break down of law and order resulting from this barbaric behavior, means people are no longer safe in the streets.

The guilt or innocence of those boys is irrelevant. Period

That Policemen were actually present when this heinous crime was been carried out is really alarming.

torkaka: STOP DISPLAYING YOUR IGNORANCE! THE BOY IN QUESTION RAISED A FALSE ALARM KNOWING FULLY WELL THE IMPLICATION OF HIS ACTION.
HE WILL BE CHARGED WITH AIDING AND ABETTING A CRIME AND ACCESSORY TO MURDER!

sunkoye: He's gonna be charged for Involuntary manslaughter- He can get double life imprisonment. Govt don’t want him to come out and raise another false alarm again which might involve JP Philip and his gangs.- that is: he is dangerous as a free man!