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When God wants to deal with people he allows them to shoot themselves in the leg first.
This is a goodbye to APC movement in OYO state. ...
Especially governorship

The businesses are struggling to see little profit, yet there is now special security tax...

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If a fool tries to drag you to dirt, you should be wise enough to refuse it.
During PDP leadership an APC member moved to PDP. His sit was no declared vacant.

Is it constitutional to do so for APC defectees? Without any court injunctions or constitutional backing..

If you can't say so with certainty, then I don't see how Akpabio got responsible for the belittling displayed in this scenario....

Tomorrow, you people will be the same set complaining about lawlessness in the country...
Continue!

enilove:


Stop twisting the Bible.

Was there law when Abraham tithed ?

How could Jesus be addressing those he knew would never abolish the law ?

Did Jesus not agree that tithing is a must ?

The death of Jesus means we should :

KEEP THE LAWS EXCEPT THOSE RELATING TO BLOOD SACRIFICES .

BE HOLIER THAN THE PHARISEES .

Matthew 5:20-22 KJV
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[21] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
[22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

THE ABOVE IS HOW JESUS CAME TO FULFIL THE LAWS.

The Pharisees used to pay tithes , this Jesus consented to as a necessity.

Brother, Christ was showing them how to be righteous by the law on which they held so dearly.
When he said except your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees he was pointing to them the fact that the standard of righteousness which they believed was perfect was NOT enough.

When you say Christ affirmed it a must to tihe...
Do you remember that Jesus Christ attended the feast of passover? That according to your context will mean he said it's a must.
How many passover feasts have you attended? (scripture says he himself is our passover lamb).

What I mentioned in the repost about divorce which Christ made reference to is actually a question directed to you. Does that statement Christ made about divorce according to the law of Moses mean Christ has given a go-ahead for divorce in the church?

This is the reality: In the days Christ walked the face of this earth, the law was still intact, the transition happened that night he was crucified. You know the story. ...

He couldn't have taught them to practice what was not yet in place, One of the reasons he spoke mostly in parables when talking about heaven.

His work was to do the father's will and the fathers' will was salvation for mankind. This would not be a possibility for the jews if they were not convicted of their helpless state...

The ultimate purpose of all these was so that all will be convicted....
If you don't get this, it means am wasting my time.

For your first question, check Hebrews 11, If Abraham's act of tithing is not recorded there, then you should be able to realize that it is irrelevant to the new creation.
But for every act of faith recorded there, It will do you good to emulate.
Meanwhile the tithing was done to a priest that lives for ever as recorded in scriptures, you should recommend me such priest so I can go pay mine.
It is we who have encouraged respect of persons in church, prayer for tithes has to be longer...
Study Paul's teachings on giving and quit the defence.

enilove:


The death of Jesus means we should :

KEEP THE LAWS EXCEPT THOSE RELATING TO BLOOD SACRIFICES .

This other statement you made is a fallacy sir...

You wear clothes with different materials, cultivate farms with different plants, and worst of all you do not keep all the laws without breaking any.
Are you not cursed already?

John 3:23 - And this is his commandment,
That we should believe on the names of his son Jesus Christ and
Love one another as Christ commanded.

This was John the beloved speaking.
This men were jews, how comes they never taught or mentioned this things, who was stopping them?

The giving that Christ speaks of to be a DIRECT giving to God, how many times has it been preached to you in church?

According to Jesus, the father would say, when I was thirsty you gave me to drink...
And the question will be lord when did we see u thirsty.
You know the reply... When you did it to the least of your brothers, you did it TO ME.
How many times has this been a sermon in your church.

Have you not read of the practice where the early church would gather resources from everyone and share to people according to their needs?

Where and how was that practice lost in the church of Jesus Christ...?

You seem to know very little about the finished works of Christ....
It wasn't just for our sins alone that he died

If apostle Paul sees some of us, am sure he would be tempted to stone us...

I do not want to waste time going into the context of the words of Christ in this chapter and beyond.
First, How many of those laws are you keeping?
Read verse 32 of the chapter u quoted from and answer this: Does Christ support divorce?

Rom. 3:19 - For we know that what thing so ever the law said, it said to them who are under the law: THAT EVERY MOUTH MAY BE STOPPED, AND ALL THE WORLD MAY BECOME GUILTY BEFORE GOD.

Rom 6:14 - For sin shall not have dominion over you, for YOU are not under the law, but under grace.

Christianity did not begin until the promise if the Holy Ghost was received by the apostles
Gal. 5:18 says but if ye be led by the spirit, ye are not under the law.

In the law, men that die receive tithe but before the law, he who liveth received it (the model of our dispensation).
If your pastor will die, he is not fit to receive tithe from you. Hebrews 7:8

The OT was referred to as that which decayeth and waxed old and is ready to vanish away (Heb. 8:13)

Concerning the old testament, we are to be built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets(prophesies) with christ as the chief corner stone (Eph. 2:20)

Peter confirms the same thing "be mindful of the words of the prophets and of the commandments of us the apostles of the lord and saviour. 2 pet. 3:2 - This is a man who was everywhere with Christ speaking.

Where in the whole scriptures have you heard any apostles teaching about any law or tithing?

If you are under the law, you are under a course. If for any reason you fail to do according to all its precepts. Stop confusing yourself and imbibing erroneous teachings.
This are the kind of teachings that give the impression that men cannot make heaven.

Again I warn you, stop making light the sacrifice of christ.

As a Christian if you don't know the purpose of the law, then you have no business talking about this things.

It was God's deliberate move to stop every mouth, show men their guilt so they could accept Jesus.
If you don't have a need for something whether you accept it or not doesn't bother you.

You are not a Jew by geneology yet
If you research, you will find out they are no longer practicing tithing. Most importantly find out the reason for yourself.

Without the Holy Spirit, our religion (which is not yet qualified to be called Christianity) is in vain.

No mortal has the capacity to keep those laws. I can't say more, go and question your pastor.

Meanwhile have you noticed that in the five fold ministry gifts there is nothing like priest?

Am sure you are thinking it means same with pastor.

How comes none of the apostles taught this rubbish throughout the scriptures?
How come none of them paid tithe?
How comes none of them received tithes?

Titus and Timothy are referred to as the pastoral epistles, how comes there are no such instructions on tithe or the laws?

Study for yourself please.

Again don't stop tithing maybe untill or if ever you find out why?
In grace we are the blessed, we are not doing anything to get blessed (I tithed in the loins of Abraham, scripture says if I am Christ's then am Abraham's seed and heir according to the promise).

I give sacrificially with understanding, all I have belongs to God. The day you accept the law, you have also accepted the condemnation that comes with it

enilove:


[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

I like people like you.

First, Christ was addressing Pharisees not Christians.
Secondly, there was money in their days, have you tried to find out why the tithe was about herbs alone?

Am sure u saw "till all be fulfilled" well enough in the verse I quoted. That statement was simply a conditional.
That was the only condition for which the law could pass away and NO ONE ever fulfilled ALL the law. That's why scriptures said "For all have sinned and fallen short of the. .." in the book of Roman's.

Question: Did Christ fulfill all the law?
If he did, then the law was legally set to pass away after he did. Study the book of Hebrews for yourself.

If you are wearing a cloth that has up to two different material in one (you are transgressing the law)
If you cultivate up to two different crops in one farmland, you are in sin brother.

Stop putting new wine in old wine skin. Each time you do, what is happening here will always occour - It will burst.

Am sorry to inform you that with what you wrote, It means you have not started Christianity yet.
Anything that is not rooted on the finished work of Christ is not Christianity and I hope you do realize that Christianity is beyond religious practices and rituals.

let me stop here.

Christ is our champion, If you do not understand these things it means you have been making light his sacrifice on the cross and are yet to understand the depth of that very sacrifice...

elganzar:
What is it gaan naa(?), they said if you want to_ GIVE!!...If you don't want to _ DON'T GIVE...

Those that know what they profit from giving tithe don't really need your counsel

They are profiting from giving not tithing.

There are principles in life, once they are deployed, the effects will always show up.

Giving and receiving
Sowing and reaping - seed time and harvest
Principle of seasons

Anyone who honours God with their substance is a candidate for a reward.

Whether or not you know anything called gravity, If you jump off a balcony on a storey building - nothing will stop you from falling.


Unfortunately there is nothing like the principle of tithing or one-tenth in the whole bible...

Meanwhile, continue with your giving but study your Bible - As a believer you should be ready always to give a reason for your faith when asked, So the scripture acknowledges...

MightySparrow:
This is another member of Daddy Freeze's Church of Confusion.

Freeze didn't write the scriptures and he is not the Holy Spirit.
If you are yet to see the same truth there's nothing wrong.

I don't think I sound like someone that is confused. The things I speak about here, I can talk about same at any level or platform before whoever. That being because I make good use of my Bible.
There is nothing greater than the truth

I am always quick to remind Christian to read their bibles more carefully because even Christ speaking said "you err because you know not the scriptures".

The only giving you do to God directly is when you give to the needy among the Christian fold.

Remember: (Matt 25:34 ...) when I was hungry u gave me to eat, when I was sick you visited me and they asked lord when did we give you to eat?
He answered, when you did so to the least of ur brothers, you did it to me.
(It is Jesus himself that was speaking about this).

The only other direct giving is the sacrifice of our praise which is the fruit of our lips. . .

I read about people who say tithing should be a personal decision. When the pastor puts it forward to be a necessity don't you think the one who is not doing it will feel he's being disobedient despite his decision? The devil is happy each time a believer carries guilt, grudges, anger or jealousy in their minds because the ground is wet for him to display his tricks.

In the end, how is that believer helped in his faith?

People must not be cadjuled to give to the work of God or the pastor in the name of tithe. Because that name alone references the giving to the law. Nothing wrong about taking an offering to your pastor or donating to the church for running it's services and bills.

Other pastors will say Abraham gave tithe before the law - I ask a simple question, in Hebrews. 11, Abraham's name was mentioned most for his acts in that record of faith, why was his act of tithing not mentioned or omitted?

Again when he tithed, was he commanded by God? The levites (priests) were asked not to tithe according to the law because they had already paid their tithes while in Abraham's bossom.

What does scripture say about us - We ARE: A choose generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people....
So are we not King priests like Melchizedek to whom Abraham paid his tithe? (by virtue of which we all are even qualified to receive tithe).
Again the scriptures clearly states that by faith, we are Abraham's seeds. Why has the waiver for levites not applied in our case?

HEAR ME CLEARLY: There is no special blessing for the one who tithes in our days (The grace dispensation) ORDER than
1. The principle of giving and receiving at work.
2. The blessing God gives to people for honoring him with their substance (by giving towards his work) - This drives the prophesy that said "through prosperity shall thy nation's be spread abroad"
3. The blessing that follows one who gives to an anointed one (A man of God).

Where a born again child of God is, there is nothing like devourer and certainly nothing to rebuke. If there is anything to rebuke, the believer always has the irrevocable authority which is not attached to any laws.
"whatsoever you bind on earth. .."

That error in the body of Christ is totally unnecessary. People should be taught to give from their heart. Remember - Paul warned us of giving out of compulsion (It is indirect compulsion, at least no body in their ignorance wants the devourer to devour their finances) - more than enough compulsion already.

Finally in my opinion there is everything wrong with using that name tithe in the church today, Knowing fully well that it is of the law.
The church started after the dead of Christ and has no tithe record.
Christ himself who even asked to be baptised paid no tithe but tax.
When he talked about tithes with pharisees (none-christians), he spoke about herbs at a time when there was money, of course he paid his tax with money.

Christ prayed, fasted, gave, preached, healed and worked other miracles...

Whatever I have not seen in him or in the one whom he by revelation brought salvation to gentiles is totally baseless

This doesn't mean I condemn believers who practice it at their own level of revelation of the gospel. As far as Christ is preached, there is no contention.

Am only concerned about this for the necessity of sound doctrine.

jadyclem:


point of correction, you don't pay tithe to pastors but to God. it's God that blesses a person, not the pastor. regardless of your grouse against pastors, there are still some genuine and spirit filled men of God out there. And also, it's not a crime for a pastor to be wealthy. stop judging!

Please read your Bible more carefully.

The only giving you do to God directly is when you give to the needy among the Christian fold.

Remember: when I was hungry u gave me to eat, when I was sick you visited me and they asked lord when did we give you to eat?
He answered, when you did so to the least of ur brothers, you did it to me.
(It is Jesus himself that was speaking about this).

The only other direct giving is the sacrifice of our praise which is the fruit of our lips. . .

I read about one who said it should be a personal decision.

People must not be cadjuled to give to the work of God or the pastor in the name of tithe. Because that name alone references the giving to the law.

Other pastors will say Abraham gave tithe before the law - I ask a simple question, in Hebrews. 11, Abraham's name was mentioned most in that record of faith, why was his act of tithing not mentioned or omitted?

Again when he tithed, was he commanded by God? The levites (priests) were asked not to tithe because they had already paid their tithes while in Abraham's blossom.

What does scripture say about us - We ARE: A choose generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people....
So are we not King priests like Melchizedek ? (by virtue of which we all are qualified to receive tithe)

HEAR ME CLEARLY: There is no special blessing for the one who tithes in our days (The grace dispensation) ORDER than
1. The principle of giving and receiving at work.
2. The blessing God gives to people for honoring him with their substance (by giving towards his work) - This drives the prophesy that said "through prosperity shall thy nation's be spread abroad"
3. The blessing that follows one who gives to an anointed one (A man of God).

Where a born again child of God is, there is nothing like devourer and certainly nothing to rebuke. If there is anything to rebuke, the believer always has the irrevocable authority which is not attached to any laws.
"whatsoever you bind on earth. .."

That error in the body of Christ is totally unnecessary. People should be taught to give from their heart. Remember - Paul warned us of giving out of compulsion (It is indirect compulsion, at least no body in their ignorance wants the devourer to devour their finances).

MrAJQ:


You might assume you've made a point

Yes, only to those whose brains hv not been overhauled by useless religious tenets.

If I were a Muslim, It wouldn't stop me from having this same view just as I am objective about some unfounded Christian religious practices.

Time up!

Scammers are about to loose business...

Bank ni....

Let them continue their deductions uninterested attitude with organised scam

Does anybody see why the Islamic mode of dressing especially for women is a problem for a society like ours?

Facial recognition is most important anywhere there is need yet people dress with their faces covered in black and bogus robes that anything can be concealed under.

In Abuja during that so called shite ritual trekking.
Are Nigerians not aware that some of the women had riffles hidden in their clothes which they delivered to some of the men while the tide had turned?

This Islam religion is our major problem and we all know it. But the elites wouldn't watch their religion judged instead you will hear how that Muslims in a school like UI are pushing to be allowed to wear hijab.

I keep asking, is it not foolishness to wear a black heavy material covering your whole body including ur face under hot sun in the name of religion?

Who did this to us....?

Does anybody see why the Islaic mode of dressing especially for women is a problem for a society like ours?

Facial recognition is most important anywhere there is need yet people dress with their faces covered in black and bogus robes that anything can be concealed under.

In Abuja during that so called shite ritual trekking.
Are Nigerians not aware that some of the women had riffles hidden in their clothes which they delivered to some of the men while the tide had turned?

This Isam religion is our major problem and we all know it. But the elites wouldn't watch their religion judged instead you will hear how that Muslis in a school like UI are pushing to be allowed to wear hijab.

I keep asking, is it not foolishness to wear a black heavy material covering your whole body including ur face under hot sun in the name of religion?

Who did this to us....?

Does anybody see why the Islamic mode of dressing especially for women is a problem for a society like ours?

Facial recognition is most important anywhere there is need yet people dress with their faces covered in black and bogus robes that anything can be concealed under.

In Abuja during that so called shite ritual trekking.
Are Nigerians not aware that some of the women had riffles hidden in their clothes which they delivered to some of the men while the tide had turned?

This Islam religion is our major problem and we all know it. But the elites wouldn't watch their religion judged instead you will hear how that Muslims in a school like UI are pushing to be allowed to wear hijab.

I keep asking, is it not foolishness to wear a black heavy material covering your whole body including ur face under hot sun in the name of religion?

Who did this to us....?

This fella has finally spread his ignorance abroad.
Wetting concern PMB and 2011?

Please tell us the name of ur school?

I keep saying this one thing, if there was anytime that military financing was grossly embezzled in recent times - It was under GEJs watch.

Buhari has invested much already in the military. The day this incident came OA, I also read that the military took delivery of some special air planes with uo-to-date facilities.

The moment you think that Boko Haram insurgency is existing or escalating because of buhari, it means you have made your head sensored for remote controlling. This has nothing to do with who is president but the stupidity of the northern leaders growing beyond their control.

If fingers should be pointed, it should be at Islam as a religion being the root of all this...

If we want any good for Nigeria, we must find a way to put a young person in Aso rock.

If Atiku is president tommorow, he won't become jet Li or Batman. The said Atiku is a Muslim and also a northerner - best that can be done is more sophisticated equipment which PMB is already doing though not well enough.

When those boys hang bullets round their necks and spread it like rain, the most trained of soldiers will only be fortunate to escape death.

Don't be fooled by allowing anyone preach a useless political candidate under the guise of Boko Haram killings. It is easier said.

Same buhari said it but now he is a player and not just a spectator. Here is where reality strikes

If you wish this country well, Dare to put a young person in that office. Stop falling for this cheap unnecessary brain game

If you like correct it or you simply go ahead.

Why do people in highly uncivilized environments live longer.

Healthy lifestyle!

We work so hard to live but in the end realize we never really lived.
It is simple - take meal time seriously and m Make sure u eat something even if it's small.

That little adjustment can safe you the stress of diabetes, ulcer, coronary heart diseases and obesity. It can expand your life expectancy

What is the aim working so hard only to gather money for some stupid avoidable treatments in the future at a time where you are supposed to be resting and enjoying ur youthful toil.

Wisdom is principle

Restructuring is the way out of this mess.

Nothing will change, he didn't use his opportunity smartly enough. He believed In one Nigeria even when over 70% Nigerians don't, including political class and elites

We now have international wailers against PMB.
They are free to join the chorus.. ..

None-sense...

When they do their backyard deals and get unwholesome agreements signed they expect fools to follow up

Let them release outstanding Nigeria funds first or go to hell...
This is not about going to court, the court should first investigate the situation and conditions leading to signing such useless deals.

Who else has noticed that they are careful not to mention who signed the agreement and under whose government.

Africans are smart, say we stupid most times na just our birthright ..lol

If he had manned the force service arms well, there would have been no need to fear for impending violence.
Guess what - No other political leader in Nigeria would have accepted that defeat except his boss "Yaradua".

For anyone thinking that PMB can loose election in Nigeria - You better wake up (He won't even give any Idiot chance to win talk less of accepting Electoral outcome.

Any tribe that is smart would rather focus on negotiating binding political future for themselves rather than run around with one scoundrel called Atiku.

I wish Jonathan came out successful but at the moment - Atiku is not even a possibility for a better Nigeria

Please don't argue here, it won't change anything

Another clear evidence that politics is what is destroying Nigeria.
Look at those names, they were appointed not elected.
With politics misfits rule while the endowed are trampled under foot.
If we don't term down the political power of our nation it will crush us to pieces. It's just a matter of time....

Of course politics is the only reason why a resound looter will have the effrontery to run for presidency.

We all know PDP has better people than himself. In-fact Peter Obi is far better in antecedents and integrity but politics wouldn't allow it.

I say it again, If we don't find a way to term down the weight of political power in our country. It will ONE DAY Crush the nation into pieces

Even if the goal post is twice as high and wide.

Atiku won't and can't score. ..

Poor thing

Yes, the administration lost it in policies but good policy like we had in GEJ's time in the presence of looters only piles up economic tension for posterity.

Forgetit.. ...

There's no space for looters

It bleeds my heart to realise most Nigerian youths are so sentimental to the extent that they don't see it to mean anything for a man this old to say these words in public regardless of knowing what the consequences could be for him.

That's how they keep killing patriots to make way for fools that care less about the citizens and go Scot-free.

Where is Awolowo? Wasn't he killed for standing up for truth?

This is beyond political party but the reality of our so called democracy...

African youths are ready to die cowards while the same African origin youths in a place like America are tagged the most determined set of people in their clime...

Before you open your mouth wide find out how Bola Ige died and ask yourself if the level of attention that was given to the investigation of his death was appropriate for a man of his position and comraderie.

The more patriots they kill, they more we suffer - Youths can't change nothing in Nigeria.
If they could, we won't find idiots rallying around a thief who is being used as a case-study in crime by students in the US when we have the likes of Fela Durotoye and Sowore as presidential candidates

It's a shame

If a developed country is using an aspirant as case study for corruption in their tertiary institutions, then the young people clamouring for such a scoundrel are irredeemable from their stupidity.

I keep wondering how Nigeria offended PDP that they are so bent on taking the country six feets below. Of all the people in the party Atiku was the only gift they could throw out....

There is God

Musa deserves an award for this

In Nigeria it's almost normal for unmarried lovers to live together.

Is there any certainty that she is talking about her ex husband here?

Or is there any guarantee that she never lived with a man who she wasn't married to?

We like to be busy

In your mind you are a Jew.. . Mtcheew

Do you wear any clothes that has up to 2 materials combined at once in the sewing?

Do you plant different crops on one farm land?

Coursed is everyone that continues not in all the ordinances of the law...

I think you are searching for a course....

The sooner you realize that man cannot produce righteousness outside Christ, the better your life will become.

Meanwhile you are a bloody gentile, just in case you don't know

This sounds so true, but why not get on with the process of evidence based conviction.
I am surprised that Nigerians are acting in amazement to this kind of news. If we are exposed to the true figures of mismanaged public funds in previous administration some of us would faint.

Our problem is the SYSTEM and not the government. Our democracy has become so costly that stealing is the only way to maintain it's financial implications at the expense of the masses.

You will be surprised that even if this kind of case seeks affirmation before the judiciary, how it disappears will be a wonder at the end of the day, majorly because it concerns the government of the day.
Untill this system is overhauled - One where senate budget increases even in the midst of serious inflation and budget cutting in education and even health appropriation.

We are going no where - Even if we have pastors and Imams as president.

Mark my words - We will keep running � � around circles and making the same set of complaints.

Please If you don't know why it is impossible to Islamize Nigeria - Don't come and post rubbish here again

Chicken hearted believers. Do you even believe God hears the prayers of the church?

Why then are you acting otherwise. .. �

If I can't agree that Evans should become the bus driver in my child's school because he has repented

Then I should be able to see how stupid I am by clamouring for a first class looter to be president.

Do you realize how many lives are worthless because of the previous looting spree?

Do you know how many of those laid off workers have died of frustration and lack?

Please keep the product of your small brain to yourselves and spare us