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AllNaijaBlogger:
I am criticizing the wastage of money and the materialistic vanity that is iinvolved in owning a private jet

Lol. Wastage of money and materialistic vanity..who do them the most? My dear go and criticize ur nation's leaders and politicians and get results first. That will be worthwhile and justifying, b4 u now switch to religion area which u said is not ur way or u know nothing about.

Besides they say the best form of revenge in life is to make successful wealth. When u become wealthy enough to own over a jet and u refuse to own one; then ur argument becomes sensible and exemplary action and not just this empty ranting of words ure making. Cuz its ppl like this who make mouth abt financial integrity but when u bcome just a common counsellor ur mouth will zip up cuz of smallsmall change.

AllNaijaBlogger:
People are talking about right, while you are arguing left.

I dont understand why you bring up corrupt politicians who have private jets when defending your private jet pastor. It seems that you are somehow realising that some of these pastors are the same caliber of people with the politicians.


Stop your crooked ways and repent!!!

Ok can u kindly state ur aim for criticizing pastors..u who has repented. Is to collect back the jet or to just create a scene on NL.

irishCream:
Awaiting your acceptance

Ur signature is nice

irishCream:
This is serious! Can I talk to you in private, say bbm?

No p. 2AC947FA

irishCream:
Sorry...so presently you're with her?

Yeah. She locks her room. Cooks her soup separately and won't let me touch her car let alone driving it. We don't talk for some days in same home. She just battered my ego.

irishCream:
I feel your pain...


Please try as much as you can not to bring back the memory, I want to believe you're of age now, I mean living on your own now.

Its not by age. Its by love. A female child should be used to her mother like u are and a male child his father but I chose to stay with her cus of my father's wife rivalry. Yet my mum wouldn't understand.

VenusBetty:
Your mum told you bad things about men, thank God you didn't take that into your brain, I am from a broken home too but I really appreciate my mum, She never said anything bad about my Dad, She's a teacher and i have to say there are some mums that will also do same. So coming from a broken home should not be the problem of the children, you think they like that fact. Reading all these comments totally broke my heart cuz its just called discrimination. Is this really what people think about us?

Discrimination? How? U think I'm happy typing these things? A single mother who's a teacher is a lover of children and not abusive to children. Have ur mother ever floggeed u with nail planks till u bled b4 or has she ever told u she wishes u weren't a girl. U don't know there are different sides to life.

VenusBetty:
I understand you dear, I'll tell you this without mincing words, guys from broken home have treated me well more than the ones from unbroken homes.

Good. You must be mature then. Children from broken homes have the tendency to love to the extreme but only with regular re-assurance from their spouses.

VenusBetty:
Your mum told you bad things about men, thank God you didn't take that into your brain, I am from a broken home too but I really appreciate my mum, She never said anything bad about my Dad, She's a teacher and i have to say there are some mums that will also do same. So coming from a broken home should not be the problem of the children, you think they like that fact. Reading all these comments totally broke my heart cuz its just called discrimination. Is this really what people think about us?

Well I didn't frame up d story. Its very real. I almost ran out of home when I was young. Some children who she tried to adopt as househelp then, they ran away. There was a year I stayed away from home in a family friend's house and threatened her that I was with my dad since she won't change and she started threatening my dad to expect war. My dad said I shd let her know wherever I am to avoid complications and I did.

The fact is I don't even have the intention of going to my dad cuz his wife who is my mum's rival will not be happy to have me live with them. You certainly know how women feel when another child from outside is coming in..she could even poison me and I'm d only child 4 my mum. If I leave my mum now it won't be good although she once said its not necessary that her child buries her, that she can live without a child. Yet she was feeling jealous when I threatened to go to dad. Even d family friends that harboured me 4 that year are now her enemies cuz they hid her child from her..so she thinks. Apart from the psychological effects of coping in marriage sef, tell me which girl or lady would want to have such as a mother-in-law. A woman whose facial look alone isn't receptive yet a church addict. Well that's where I find myself and I can't fight God for giving me such a parent.

So my dear, some men have even gone thru more than these, that's why it seem some of them aren't loving or romantic. So its gud to know why God brought you into ur spouses' life and stop expecting the societal standard from him/her just cuz u see ur friend's spouse do same. Life is in stages and men are in sizes. We're all diff from each other and ur role as a husband/wife is unique to u alone. When u see someone who loves so much, its bcus he/she has been well loved too. No one can give what he/she does not have.

If good guys are boring to you, then you're rotten.

BISIXCLUSIVE:
Please your candid advice needed. No insult

Hmmm op I wanna be candid with you. Children(male or female) from broken homes need lots of love b4 they can enjoy or be enjoyed in a relationship and they have the societal standard to contend with. By societal standard I mean the "its a mans duty to love always and a woman to be a recipient of love always OR its a woman's duty to show emotions and a man should always be hardminded". Its not always so.

Its only a person who's from a united home and has a stable emotion that can achieve that..not everybody. Like I always say, life is in twos. Its d side of d coin that life turns to you that you'll know and that's d side people think everybody knows 4getting that other people have a differnt view entirely. That's why its not good to compare one's relationship with others.

Joyce meyer was violated and disvirgined by her father who also maltreated her mother. She grew up hating men until she met her hubby who broke the so called societal norm and showed emotional love. In d case of a man, he won't even see why a woman should be loved but rather see her as liability who collects always and never give or add value to his life.

In my own case, my mum who is originally a choleric and rigid woman(popularly known as iron lady) always poisoned my mind about my dad. She dislikes men and she doesn't hide it. Infact men give her her space to avoid embarrassment but unfortunately me her only child is a man. She even said openly that she wished I wasn't a male child. I had a tough childhood under her..maltreats and flogs me naked to blood point and sometimes send me to bed at night without dinner. Abuses me and my father(who's nt in d home) on any little mistake I made and raised me with a perfectionist standard. But my dad on d contrary would say he gave her her space cus of her domineering nature. That's to mention a few by the way.

It took me a long time to appreciate women to the level I do now. To be frank I still need a lot of love to cope in marriage cus I can't give the love I don't have.

But I've learnt to enliven myself that inspite of the excessive demanding nature of a woman I will find my own woman who will desire to love me more.

So my dear, there's hope for children from broken homes. Just pray to find ur own man or woman. I'm talking of marriage level. There will certainly be problems for just bf/gf cases cuz most of them are young immature and don't understand ur situation.

This apororo guy himself resemble cow.

Besides na ajegunle he dey live ni or hw come that local backgound in the pic?

kissing na by force? abi he wan chop her mouth

joseph1832:
And you need to write an epistle just to say something simple? Wow!. I wonder when the likes of you will stop being narrow minded and know that you crooked ways and religion are not the ways of others.

Imagine. If religion isn't ur way then u don't have the right to criticize it cuz u don't even have adequate knowledge about it.

If ure asked abt ur religion now u'll say ure a xtain. But if ure asked how xtainity started in ur country, ur knowledge of it is nil. Who pioneered xtainity in ur country-nil. What was d financial status of d church when xtainity started in ur country-nil. How has churches reached out to d less privileged whose needs are supposed to be met by ur government-nil. How has religion influenced the masses against same sex marriage-nil. Yet u criticize what u have a very minute knowledge of.

D glutonous politicians that eat up ur rightful funds and buy jet with it gets u hailing them when they make loud promises that they end up not fulfilling. Lol you got tired knowing that criticizing politicians never yield results in naija, u re now turning ur aggression to pastors without revering the true ones among them.

If u need help from a church, why not go to popular newspapers and ask for their support without shame knowing that u need their help rather than criticizing them on NL that some influential people don't know. U re just funny.

humilitypays:
I am very aware that what I am about to write will not go down well with many readers on this forum, but then, the truth must be told.

In as much as I do not support single ladies being too forward about money and material things, I do not support a single guy going into a relationship when he has not found his direction in life; more especially nowadays that increase in population has made it very difficult for young people to find job after school.

I will be making reference to the Holy Bible to back up my stand, but before then, let's take a look at some of the disadvantages of a guy going into a committed relationship when he is still struggling:

1. He gets distracted: women are emotional creatures that require lots of emotional attention to satisfy, so for a guy who's still struggling financially, keeping a committed relationship will most likely distract him from chasing his life dreams.

2. Financial waste: no matter what you think or say, keeping a girlfriend cost money, especially nowadays that technology has taken over the world.

Buying call cards to say hi to her, buying gifts for her on special occasions, taking her out for dates, and other frivolous spending cost money which the guy can invest on himself to acquire ICT skill/certification, etc.

I won't bore you guys with too many points, so let me jump straight to the Bible backing.

During the process of creation as narrated in the book of Genesis, the world was without form, nothing existed and God created heaven and earth, sea, oceans, forests, trees, animals and every other thing on earth.

And God looked at the earth and saw its beauty, and decided to create the first human.

Please I want you guys to pay close attention to the preceding paragraphs of this write-up.

When God decided to create human being, God didn't create man and woman the same day, instead God first created man- Adam.

Adam lived alone for long, moving around the earth (Garden of Eden), taking care of the animals, trees, fishes, etc and God saw that He was lonely and needed company and helper, and God decided to create Eve to keep Adam company and to also be his helper.

The moment Adam woke up and saw Eve, he fell in love with Eve without waiting for many years to develop love, and Eve also fell in love with him without having to screen him to know how much he's worth and what he has to offer her.

Note 1: there's true love at first sight, don't doubt it or condemn it, its real!

My point:

God first created Adam, and Adam had virtually everything he needed to survive- shelter (whether under tree or whatever), food, etc before God brought him a wife!

So to the single guys reading this, please pray to God to bless your daily life activities so that you can succeed first before getting a woman, and you know why?

1. Woman is not the most important thing to a man, his work (goal in life) is.

Give a poor man the most beautiful woman who truly loves him, I bet you guys the man will run abandon the woman lol

2. A man feels more good in a relationship when he is financially stable than when he is financially broke!

3. No matter how rich a man's girlfriend/wife is, the man will never feel satisfied with the woman until he himself is financially stable too.

4. The true behaviour of a man can only be known when he is financially okay, and not when he is broke!

5. Naturally, by default, every woman desires to be with a man who is more financially capable than her.

This is one major reason Oprah Winfrey never married. Same reason Linda Ikeji, Genevieve Nnaji, Rita Domnic, Agbani Darego, Rihanna, etc are all single secretly searching for that guy that has more money and fame to come make their dream come true.

Don't ever think guys aren't proposing to the aforementioned ladies because I can bet my nairaland username that thousands of suitors who may not be as rich and popular as them are asking them out on daily basis.

So guys stop nagging and attacking the ladies; ladies aren't the problem, our common enemies are the past and present politicians who ruined our national economy, leaving the youths helpless and jobless!

It is the politicians that we youths should hate and attack for embezzling our common national wealth for their personal use.

We need to pray for a better Nigeria with many great job opportunities for the youths, and we must also condemn giving better jobs to females who do not qualify to the detriment of guys with better qualification.

Lastly, ladies please I am not encouraging going after already made guys only, please give all guys equal chance of friendship because that broke guy today maybe the next Forbe's billionaire tomorrow, so always pray for God's direction and do use your wisdom!

Op. You forgot or failed to know that

- adam had all the blessings and eve fell in love with him b4 they both ate out of the tree of good and evil that opened their eyes to covetousness. Its good to really understand d scriptures b4 u quote it. Infact to have a husband who can provide all ur needs and still allow a small apple to cost you a lifetime labor under God's curse is already covetousness.

- no made man who doesn't have a poor beginning. The same bible says 'despise not ur days of small beginnings'. What matters is diligence with that little beginning. A little beginner who is diligent in his dealings will never remain little.

- most responsible made men trace their rising mainly to d contribution and support of their helpmeet. Infact no man is really made without the support of his helpmeet. Awolowo is an icon 2day cuz his wife stood by him during his tryin times or u think its a childs play to be tagged a prisoner's wife and yet represent d prisoner husband in conferences especially when d children are still young and need parental attention. Nelson Mandela wasn't that lucky. The wealth u have b4 marriage is either a mirage compared to what u should have when u marry(if ur wife is good) or a wealth that will soon crumble(if u marry d wrong woman)

- if ur man is destined to reach 100% and he's at 70% when he met u, ur duty of 30% is ur function as a helpmeet(note that its not only financial function). If he was at 30%, he may never be able to attain above that 30% if he didn't meet u or without ur support. It only means ur duty as a helpmeet is important in his life. Life is in stages and men are in sizes..it is not wise to compare ur role in ur spouses life with others but should be uniquely understood

joseph1832:
How come you refuse to answer my first question? Instead you're showing just how yellow you are eh?.

The post you quoted wasn't directed to you so why didn't you answer the one meant for you?.

Mtscheeew!!!.

See you. Maybe u need be reminded; that u are getting likes and shares or that u made front page does not make u right.

You know within you that something might be right about people's argument abt ur post but cus u wanna get likes and shares or just wanna win an argument has veiled ur mind to d truth.

Even upon knowing that not all jet-owning pastors are purely of God what do wanna do now...lead a protest to seize their jet or what?

That a person serves under the 'pastor' title shouldn't make it a taboo to be wealthy. Some of these men of God don't even collect salaries from d church. Some depend only on d lifechanging books they've written and many of them are philantropists on personal levels. In fact the true men of God are supposed to be d 1st beneficiary of serving God according to God's standard. Genuine anointing is one of d bible approved means for wealth.

God's word said 'Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.

If ur ways please the Lord, he will bless u so much u won't even know how to keep or hide it. He blessed Abraham so much d world heard abt it..and we're still hearing abt it 2day.

So my dear. Don't be an obstacle to ur own unlimited greatness. In short stop limiting urself. God does not see u as a limited man.

joseph1832:
How come you refuse to answer my first question? Instead you're showing just how yellow you are eh?.

The post you quoted wasn't directed to you so why didn't you answer the one meant for you?.

Mtscheeew!!!.

See you. Maybe u need be reminded; that u get likes and shares or make front page does not make u right.

You know within you that something might be right about people's argument abt ur post but cus uve made front page and wanna get likes and shares or just wanna win an argument has veiled ur mind to d truth.

Even upon knowing that not all jet-owning pastors are purely of God what do wanna do now...lead a protest to seize their jet or what?

That a person serves under the 'pastor' title shouldn't make it a taboo to be wealthy. Some of these men of God don't even collect salaries from d church. Some depend only on d lifechanging books they've written and many of them are philantropists on personal levels. In fact the true men of God are supposed to be d 1st beneficiary of serving God according to God's standard. Genuine anointing is one of d bible approved means for wealth.

But God's word said 'Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.

If ur ways please the Lord, he will bless u so much u won't even know how to keep it. He blessed Abraham so much d world heard abt it..and we're still hearing abt it 2day.

So my dear. Don't be an obstacle to ur own unlimited greatness. In short stop limiting urself.

joseph1832:
Even n death, Michael Jackson is more influential than Adeboye.

Em can you kindly tell us who bought the jets for him? Since he didn't buy it with his money and the church's money.

Guy arguing with u is like using cow dung as bread spread instead of butter. Ur understanding is little

AllNaijaBlogger:
What is this one saying? Kings rode through towns in chariots and horses. Jesus was the King of Kings but chose to ride a donkey.

Chariots are not only for war.


Even, let's forget chariots....what about horses? HMMM? Did Jesus use a horse?

Ok o. Mr calculative brain. I hear u

AllNaijaBlogger:
You have nothing to say.

#Gerarahere

Lolz. U really should learn

Lemme with all humility state here that pastor adeboye of d rccg has only gotten 1 of the jets God promised him. God promised him 3 and none will be bought by his money or from the church's purse

He was awarded d 50th most infuential man in the world after which God told him he would be made d 1st influential man in his lifetime

There's no limit to d greatness that comes from being humble. In fact that's d reward of humility...to be exalted. God himself said it that he constantly resists d proud and exalts d humble

What then is d essense of being very humble, yet rejecting the reward in the name of 'I don't want ppl to say I am flamboyant bcus I have a jet'. Let them say..they'll always say and u will always rise.

The reason ppl like u hardly rise is cus u keep using ur accountancy or financial degree to probe what God can do..that's already pride and no exalting will come from it. Its dat humility that d world will call u mumu that God is after. If uve nt gotten there then uve not started. Besides do you even give or pay tithe at all? Talkless of knowing what d reward I'm talking about is like

AllNaijaBlogger:
The funny thing is that I never made an argument for poverty or that pastors should not have good cars or good houses. What I complained about is the wastefulness of private jets

The problem with you people is that you see someone challenging your rich pastors and you become wild animals and start calling others "poor£.

My dear, u're half-done. Go back and re-read what I posted last. Don't just answer what uve nt understood

AllNaijaBlogger:
Are you serious? You are calling someone ignorant and yet you spew this unreasonable trash of a comment?


First, you seem to be more interested in your riches and the riches of your pastor. See how you are boasting.

Also, you are then claiming that Donkeys were the most expensive forms of transport in the time of Jesus. How ignorant of you to forget that horses and chariots were mentioned in that same bible? Do you think at all?

Mr poverty keep your probing to urself

I'm sure its ppl like u who would probe why xtains should pay tithe...calculating divine order with human mentality. Giving without expecting to be blessed from God beyond your giving level at the initial stage.

When David heard abt Goliath, d 1st question he asked was what shall be done for whoever kills this philistine..he was promised to be exempted from payin taxes(him and his family) and to marry Saul's beautiful daughter. That was what motivated him to act. It is not pride to boast about the reward of a great and weldone service.
Besides chariots and horses my dear are war vehicles. Jesus was riding through the city. Will ur armour brain tell u to use an armour tank in a residential community?

Your way is still far

By the way please keep boasting of poverty. I hope u won't be d chief of poor people in years to come.

AllNaijaBlogger:
As a christian who believes a lot in humility, I disagree with the ownership of such luxurious vessels in the name of evangelism. Here are the reasons why I feel that private jets are not necessary for christian leaders;

My dear u aren't humble, ure ignorant to the extreme. Using human business sense to analyse Gods provisional ability and you think you're wise. U may think u have business prospects but you're tending towards poverty. If u are really the xtain u claim to be then poverty will catch up with you soon

AllNaijaBlogger:
2) Private jets actually hamper evangelism by consuming more time, effort and money than a commercial flight; The time and effort needed to maintain a private jet and keep it running is ridiculous when one considers the fact that a commercial flight is a far cheaper and less tedious service to use for global evangelism

When the RCCG started, was ur father's money the starting capital or did a particular businessman sign a contract with the founder in order to get returns now? Who created d economy. D economy have been having issues b4 u were born and will keep being so. The bible says "u will lend to nations". How its gonna happen isn't ur business, urs is just to believe. Even amidst famine, God can make u flourish if ure committed to him. The life of pastor Adeboye is just a good example of what being totally committed to God can do for you.

AllNaijaBlogger:
3) Jesus rode on donkeys and not on chariots; horses and chariots were the highest level of transport in biblical times but Jesus chose to humbly enter the city of Jerusalem with a donkey in what we know as the triumphal entry in the New Testament. Conversely, we have pastors riding on the highest levels of transports in the form of private jets that reeks of the very materialism that Jesus speaks against in Matthew 6;24.

Hear yourself speak heresis. When d bible says he was MADE poor(he wasn't poor originally) that YOU may be RICH.

You seem to be so used to poverty that its now ur lifestyle that u can't do without. U don't even knw that a donkey among the pharisees was one of their best automobile at that time and jesus rode on a BRAND NEW one.

If the way ure thinking was logical, then u should be walking bare-footed even to standard seminars and conferences as ur own sign of humility. Poverty IS NOT humiility

But I'm not suprised abt ur words. Whenever God's determined to promote you, there'll definitely be criticism. That's d cost of being rich. But when I compare the cost of riches to dat of poverty, my dear I will choose to be rich again and again.

Let it be on record that I Dave the JudgementHammer will keep improving in the lord and would be wealthy enough, I will own my own jets in spite of the complaints abt d economy and d cost of maintenance won't be a problem at all..amen.

2-face is a channel of blessing o

DuchessLily:
Eyahh... Dis handsome guy just spoilt himself with muscles everywhere

Too much of anything is bad

Nawa o. Ladies wetin una want sef. U say u want 6pack badly, here's a guy who wants to give u all of it. Now u say no again.

Me I get 4pack sha if u can manage it.

Lolz. Them call u witch, u run comot and abandon ur 2 children there. U just proved u re a witch. I'm sure ur own mother bore a lot more than that and she endured till it became settled just for u and ur siblings. Marriage is not conditional my dear, what u show or offer in return during hardtimes shows ur determination for a working marriage. That's why getting used to excessive pampering b4 marriage is disadvantageous- u may not meet pampering there. What's most needed is maturity at least for ur children's sake.

And d emeka man himself has a lot to learn as d man of d home. Loud anger is not constructive anger, its foolishness. He's gradually becoming a popular failure among celebrities as far as marriage is concerned.

Besides where are families of the 2 parties in this case

The bible says if ur hand will lead u to hell, cut it off. In same manner if u booobs will anchor u to d abyss, I advice u, slice it off

I wan go shiiit. I dey come

Mtn is just like pdp. They make u suffer, give u poor service and yet give a public impression that they're serving you. The worst nigerian network.

Where she put her relationship ideas b4 or she think say life na movie acting?

Op. Ure very right. Most of them are usually melancholic introverts

She do 39 she throw party 4 london. If she wan do 40 nko, she go throw party for white house