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Saviolamemphix:
U have a valid point though but it seems u don't understand what we are saying. to me my wife must contribute but not more than me, that's my point though.. nobody lyks a liability but never allow ur wife contribute more than u in ur marriage, if its relationship its understandable but not marriage.

You are in line with me. But Demzee and co believe if your wife contributes any money, you're a low value beta simp. According to them, you are a Low Value Beta Simp

waywardpikin:
Thank you jare. It's really befuddling. I wouldn't want to be with someone so bland as I'd get bored very quickly neither would I want to have someone so subjugated to me in that manner. She'd definitely have her own thing going. Plenty of times, your wife might come up with ideas that are much better than yours. That is why two correct heads are better than one. It is left to you to use your discretion in choosing the best of all available options without letting your so-called manly pride and ego blind you completely.


Reminds me of Neyo's Miss Independent. Dòpe lyrics. That's how my dream woman should be. I'm just looking for clay so I can mould her myself.

Thank you.
It seems to me that these guys do not want a woman that has a mind of her own. They want a zombie, more or less.

Calling men LOW VALUE BETA SIMPS because they allow their wives contribute financially is ignorant.
The fact is if you're being alpha, your woman will spend her money for you and still be submissive.
Everyone is claiming alpha these days, but only a few can truly be alpha. It's not by spending your money and refusing your woman's money. There are so many high-value men who are betas. All it takes to be high-value these days is having a lot of money. You get a lotta women as a result. That is often mistaken as alpha.
But that's not what it takes to be alpha. Status, money and looks, together, will make you high-value, but they won't stop you from ignorantly simping. If at all any man is being beta here, it is the man who refuses his woman's money.
The p1mp constantly collects money from women. He is alpha as fvck.

You think allowing her spend money is beta. You think you're being dominant and alpha by funding her whole lifestyle and refusing her money, but the truth is she manipulating the fvck out of you. She knows you too proud and egotistical as hell, so she leverages and acts all dumb like she ain't got an opinion, while sucking you of your resources and keeping hers, until it's time for her to move on. That's female nature.

You call someone your wife, yet you don't want her involved at all in the decision making in your home. So, you make sure she spends nothing so that she would have absolutely no say in the house.

Just get yourself a housegirl and save yourself the stress.

Enough of this talk.

DEMZEE:
I'm looking at it from an entrepreneur's angle. My wife will b my employee and b useful to me in my business.

Except she won't be your employee but your wife.

I just feel men especially high value men don't share financial responsibility with their wives. Because most women don't want to work after and during pregnancy so why wud u now want ur wife to share financial responsibility with you. U are hinting to her in her hindbrain that u are a low valued beta male simp wen u share financial responsibility with her.

You are not hinting anything of such to her. Actually, it is when you make her not invest in the marriage that you're hinting at being a huge SIMP. She will leverage and suck your funds until she's fed up, bored and ready to move to the next nigga.
It is your kind of thinking that makes pregnant women make ridiculous demands of their husbands. Many men may not really be simps, but once their wives conceive, they become the greatest simps of all time.

I get it: pregnancy is tough. But we aren't contributing equal amounts. I will bring the bulk of the whole amount, but she must contribute to the best of her capacity before, during and after pregnancy. This is to keep things balanced.
Any time she thinks of misbehaving, she will think of all she has put in the marriage.

This is uncomfortable, especially if you're egotistical, I know, but it is the best way to secure your conjugal bliss.

Men need money to address dominance in life and not because of women.
The person with the most financial power, asides understanding frame, game and being redpill aware etc, is the one who's in control andajes the critical decisions in the home

Men lead
Women follow

A wife is meant to bask in ur world and beautify it with her femininity and skills.

PS : All my sayings are for men who want to b high valued Men

I agree with the bolded. Still, it doesn't mean women contributing financially in their marriages makes men simps.

1) Things will be the way you said if the man shoulders the whole financial responsibility. 2) Things will still be that way if the man shoulders most, but leaves some for the wife to shoulder too. The different likely implication?
In the first case, there is a very high chance of the wife getting bored and moving on to another man with more money. In the second case, there is a low chance of the woman getting bored and just moving on like that, because she's invested.

Your idea is patriarchal, while mine is Machiavellian. In today's world, some patriarchal practices like this one will most likely land you in a ditch, because women now are free to do whatever they want. That's the truth.

DEMZEE:
I'm not saying women shouldn't contribute in marriage, Wat I m against is men Sharing financial responsibility with their wives.

Women are hypergamous for bleeps sake so why wud she share financial responsibilities with u and most men who say this believe in equality. They want their burden of performance to b edged by their wives. That's why anytime I talk, I don't only consider people who plan to b wealthy in life and not people who want to be poor or average in life or people who life have dosed off their reality and they had to settle for Wat life gave them

It is not about burden of performance. It is about commitment. Things are no longer the way they used to be in the olden. Your ideology is that of the old where the man provides everything and the woman just does house work and bring no money to the table. It worked in the past because women didn't have the leeway to divorce their husbands anyhow they liked. Try that with modern women and watch her ditch you for the next richer nigga, because she has nothing to lose and modern society has made it easy for her to get divorced. This is the point.

DEMZEE:
How then are u the prize if she's sharing masculine responsibilities with you??

I'm trying to understand you better:

Are you saying your wife should never bring any amount of money to the table?


Providing is not entirely masculine responsibility.

The female must provide as well.

If you want her to be committed and you want it not easy for her to ditch you and move on to another nigga, you have to get her investing financially as well. If she's paying 30%, it's not bad. She would have a say in critical decisions, but your say would still be regarded more.

For instance, do you watch documentaries? The male Lion provides territorial security, but kind of sleeps all day. Guess who goes about hunting for food? The lioness. She brings the food for the lion to eat before she and her cubs eat.
The Lion and the lioness both contribute. Nonetheless, the Lion remains king.
These days, money gets you general security. Also, money gets you food.
Someone here once posted a story of how he knew a man who would provide for stuff in the house except food. He makes sure his wife uses her own money to feed the whole family well.
This makes her commited. She will make an effort to make sure the marriage works. She will most likely be submissive. If she misbehaves and he kicks her out, or if she seeks another nigga, she will be losing a lot. So, she will try to be in her best behaviour.

In conclusion, you are not a beta male if your wife contributes financially in your marriage.

patoski39:
yea bro, and Its actually working for them. Women are naturally redpilled like some guys here have said. This dressing is causing a lot men to be sexually conscious especially as many men are trying to swallow the redpill. Now they use these dressings to make men see what they might be missing if they try MGTOW.. I don't know if I explained this well, someone should help me out

MGTOW doesn't mean celibacy. Men can MGTOW and still have all that juicy boobs and guts if they want. There's nothing to miss. There will always be cheerful givers inside or outside a relationship.

Generally, girls are flaunting those tits to attract simps.

What do you guys think of guys who marry actresses? Are they simps?

Some Hollywood actresses are married and you would hear them say stuff like: "my husband is aware I'm taking these roles. He is aware of the sex scenes. He knows it's all acting. We are happy. We have a great marriage".

What do you guys think?

TheUndercover:
I saw your post about being friends with a woman, and I just want to chip in this too.

If you're straight and she's attractive, your friendship with her will never work, because under the right conditions, your hormones will surely get in the way - unless you're gay LOL!.

What if she's not attractive?

afrikanns:
Please bro. how do I contact you ? Thanks.

WhatsApp or Send a PM

Saintdan0421:
Asking a girl out is now chasing skirt, huh? A day hangout doesn't stop me from hustling and upgrading myself. Have gotten my B.Tech, served 2019 and currently learning a hand trade, still hunting for a dream job tho, so I just want to get a little exposure bro.

Still hunting for a dream job and still living with your mum and you think you're in a position to hang out. So, tell me, what is the essence of the hang out? What happens after the hangout? Is it truly just a day's stuff? You won't see eachother afterwards even if she agrees?

It's even worse that you're a grown ass man. I thought you were a teenager or something.

Leave that girl and focus on what you're doing. You'll achieve your goals faster. A guy/man who still lives with his mum has no business asking a girl out, if he has sense. So, you're gonna invite her over to your mum's home or what? Or, you'll keep using a hotel? Or a friend's lodge? If you really want something meaningful with her, how do you intend building a bond if she can't come to your own place to chill? If you must get into a relationship now, at least try getting a place for yourself first or, at worst, stay with a friend... .

Shalom.

Saintdan0421:
Seems cool buh you know am still squatting with my parents, haven't gotten a place of mine yet. Make my mama no say so na her gas i dey use cook for my banny .

You don't have a place of your own and you're thinking of this? It will end in tears even if she agrees.
What you should be doing now is leveling up, not chasing skirt. Channel that energy towards upgrading yourself. It is senseless asking any girl out at this point in your life. Don't get carried away by what other guys your age are doing. All of them get burnt at the start or along the way. It's the smart ones who focus on scaling up that, at the end, get the girl they want and a lot of others. If you don't focus on your upgrade, even if she agrees to date you, that greenlight she was giving you will, in no time, turn to red light.
All the best.

Thanks CaveAdullam.

CaveAdullam:
As a man, even if you don't want to f^ck her, act sexual!

Why? What if I do not find her sexually attractive at all? Should I then avoid talking to her entirely?

This topic has for a while now been of keen interest to me, as I wish to learn more about this in order to be able to handle my interpersonal relationships with the female folks appropriately.

For example, there is this course mate of mine that is quite nerdy. I do not find her attractive, but I kinda try maintaining a platonic relationship with her mainly because of her academic ability (comes in handy especially during exam period).
There is another that isn't nerdy, but I'm just keeping things simple with her. And there's a reason I'm kinda friends with her as well, and it's nothing sexual.

What do you think?

BLOODYSPERM:
Your feminist gf:

-Boasts she can't cook
-Arrogant
-Had sex with many men
-Thinks you should worship her
-Thinks men are trash

My traditional gf:

-Constantly learns new recipes and cooks for me out of love
-Humble
-Not a slut
-Worships me
-Likes men

Choose wisely

I don't know why but when I read "worships me", it cracked me up

dontai:
FACT.

I wish all guys could reason like this.

I get very irritated when a guy catches his girl cheating and he leaves his girl to go after the guy she cheated with. You wanna kill another man over your girl's sin against you.
It's scenarios like this that make me sometimes agree with those screaming "death to simps".

drLammy:
Nah it isn't, tho not a topic for discussion here.
But some are born gay bro, it is what it is

Yeah possibly. The same way some people are born with some physical defects like blindness, deafness, etc. I believe it's a psychological illness that medical practitioners are not yet able to fathom. To me, it's sad that the world at large is considering it normal. If everyone thought of it as an illness, one day, a cure would be made. Sadly, that may never happen because the world powers have deemed it normal.

dontai:
Ladies have their period once in a month, but a Simp bleeds, "Always".

ikillbrokegirls:
Humans have been conditioned to spend 80% of their days doing things they hate so they can spend 20% doing what they enjoy.

This is not good.

Kindly elaborate

OGWILLS123:
So what happen to the dads .
Have always seen some guy(s) comparing thier wife with thier mother, but have never seen where a guy compare his wife to his father .

This shows that a good percent of you guys are still simp .

Fvck ya all .

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The thing is most guys are closer to their mums than they are to their dads. Some no longer have dads in fact (I for example). That's why the comparison is usually so. And the blue-pilled society is to blame. It is usually the bluepillers that originate this comparison because, to them, the mother and the wife are surely the most important persons in a man's life. If we decide to indulge them based on the only two options they gave, it doesn't make us simps.

BLOODYSPERM:
@Junnior, you have to be very careful with your way of thinking and not mistake prudence for egoism,weakness, inferiority complex, insecurity which are gynocentric blue pilled social shaming conventions which is misleading men from the innate Hypergamous realities of women, a women can't love you without admiring you or respecting you, and the only way you can earn her respect is by being in a higher socio-economical status than her and having strong frame, you must be very wise because women can be very decietful on the surface with appeal to your ego and better judgement to encourage their success but the underlying factor is that Hypergamy doesn't care whether she became successful with or without your approval , once she is elevated and you are not your relationship is greatly affected as she looses the affection that she initially had for you, that's why marriages in Western Progressive Societies fail because their women are equal earning partners with their spouses as their system encourages credit economy which anybody can have access too, thread cautiously with these your mindset

Jay and Beyonce was an example but also look at Kanye and Kim

Apply wisdom and don't be fooled by what seems right to do but focus on what actually works , what I'm implying is that don't forget the immutable tenets of Hypergamy in the redpill with regards to any of your decision concerning women and their nature

I do not dispute this. If she becomes generally successful than I am, then I know it's time for us to go separate ways. I'm not afraid of this. I would rather have this than HINDER her from succeeding. What I would do instead is focus on my own success. And this is not me being moral. I believe trying to sabotage someone else's progress, when it's not skewing yours, is not worth it.

Martinez39s:
Your analogy does not work. JayZ is also a business man and he is twice as rich as Beyonce. Why would he be insecure?

That's my point. He wouldn't be insecure because he is steadily improving himself. I don't believe JayZ would stop and start hindering Beyonce from succeeding.
But according to those guys, he should do that because Beyonce is getting more musical success (she has more Grammys than JayZ). According to those guys, she should be a sit-at-home mum and JayZ should make sure she doesn't get an opportunity like the Grammy.

Martinez39s:
No one is saying you should sabotage your wife's progress. We are only telling you the reality of what happens when a woman surpasses her man, the consequential change in power dynamics, and the monster she shall become. This has nothing to do with being insecure or sabotaging someone to make yourself feel better; the monster your woman will become is a hell you will have to deal with whether you were a good husband or not.

Many people underestimate, or are oblivious to, the hell they would face if they found themselves in such situation; they don't understand that what good thing they might have done for their wives in the past won't matter to their wives when she surpasses them; it won't save them from the resentment, insult, and disrespect their wives would give them. Many underestimate how brutally ungrateful women can be and the extent to which they view and treat us like disposable utilities.

Also, let's desist from trying to be moral champions with this red pill stuff. Red pill is mainly concerned with truths about female nature and the dating market; nothing more, nothing less. The red pill is not a moral creed.

Okay. Sure. I agree with everything you said here.

Every mallam to his own kettle. You make it look so easy. Well, it's only experience that can make you understand; I don't have such experience, never will, and I hope you won't. Good day; every mallam to his kettle.

Well, nothing in life is easy. However, everything can be simple if we choose to make it so.
I have already experienced bitterly what it is like to cohabit with a woman of higher status. It wasn't funny at all. It was very toxic. So, I get it. What I did was went my own way. Simple. It is easy for me to break off any relationship at anytime. What is hard is actually maintaining it.

Mandela27:
She doesn't need it.
Let the boys do boys thing
Let the girls do girls thing

She should stay at home and take care of the kids while you get all the jobs

Lol.

Ok.

ABANGWABOI:
Bro no mind him..
He wants to apply the red pill the way he wants, but he forgot that red pill truth is straight and can't be bend to suit one owns wishful thinking..
He also forgot that the betrayal that hurts most is the one done by someone you raised from nobody to somebody, that one hurts like hell..
He should goggle nigerian men killing their (nurse) wives in the US for example, he would find out that those men raised them from nothing to something and they misbehaved and the couldn't stand the hurt and decided to go haywire on them..
He forgot that is easy to let go when you have invested little or nothing in an affair but difficult to let go when you have invested and sacrificed soo much on it..
@Junnior .. Bro, I hope you don't get to learn this bitter truth the hardway .. all the best.

The redpill is basically for emancipating the common human. You cannot claim to be truly free if your happiness hinges on the perpetual failure of another person so much so that you would go out of your way to make them fail. That's sick. Isn't it better you just Mgtow? Why get married at all? Some of you take this thing too far.

For me, I am very fine all by myself. I do not have a problem with equality when it's actually equality. So, I will not force my spouse to be a sit-at-home mum. She will decide what she wants. Whatever she does, if she misbehaves, I send her packing. It's that simple. We have been told severally to never invest in a relationship, marriage included, what we can't afford to lose. This allows us to cut and move on easily at any point in time. So, I am hardly one of those that will raise a woman from grass to grace just to marry her.
Women are manipulative, solipsistic, etc. However, all humans inherently want to attain more and more status. It is unnecessary stress trying to hinder anyone from doing that when it doesn't skew your own status/success. Channel that energy towards yourself and be the best version of yourself.

Take jay-z and Beyonce for example. We consider ( or I consider) Jay-z to be an alpha. Why hasn't Jay-z been stopping Beyonce from doing all the exploits she's been doing? She has most likely worked with more artistes and travelled to more countries than JayZ. She's had and keeps having massive success. But instead of JayZ getting insecure, he would focus on himself and keep increasing his worth.

Let's think wide and not narrowly.

Mandela27:
Better you give same opportunity to ur brother/childhood friend

I'm talking about an opportunity that is not mine to give.

Martinez39s:
A lot of people won't listen to this. They will think you are evil or insecure when you try to keep your wife below you; they don't know that the problem isn't you but the monster your woman will invariably become when she surpasses you. God help you if you are having a hard time financially. All the extra sacrifices you made for her out of love in the past will not matter to her when she surpasses you, and it won't stop the insults, disrespect, and disdain she will give you. Even if you donated one of your kidneys to save her life in the past, it makes no difference. I pray no one learns this the hard way.

So, are you guys saying in essence that we should go out of our way to hinder the progress of our wives?

Are you saying in essence that if, for instance, an opportunity comes up that will elevate her, you should sabotage her chances of seizing that opportunity?



I'm just trying to see things from your perspective.

If that's what you mean, I disagree. I would let her succeed all she wants by herself. She can leave afterwards if she likes. It's not a do-or-die affair.
Focus should be on oneself, not on others

What I will not do is help her succeed more than myself. But if she by herself finds success greater than mine, fine, I won't hinder her. She can leave afterwards or I send her packing when she starts misbehaving.

Around August 2019, I contracted scabies from a friend. The infection spread to my pubic area. I had to go to the hospital for diagnosis because I wasn't sure yet what it was. When the doctor wanted to assess me, she told me to take off my trousers that she wants to see it (my penis and scrotum). Omo, I hesitated at first. But she kept a straight face and was getting irritated by my hesitance. So I had to comply. She took a look at it without touching. I will never forget the experience.... It was so embarrassing.

Zabiboy:
@ junnior, check this thread

Thank you

Zabiboy:

Just mention me in a dead thread of a section that's not popular( if at all this English makes sense )
i'll list them and the potential capital...you do your research and choose

@zabiboy, I'm also interested in this.... Please list them for me.

Peaceyw:
Guy, I don't have time to be analyzing when it comes to female. The only people I will help unconditionally are beggars and sick people. People nowadays don't help anymore. Before they usually act like they care, now they can't even be bothered with you if you want their help.

Ok

dontai:
analyze the situation you say? with someone whose cry will trigger you emotion. given you less time to analyze logically or critically.

You shouldn't be moved by cries until you've made proper judgement of the situation. That's why we are here consuming TRP.

It's not rocket science. How much time do you need to analyse the encounter quickly? Few seconds. What you're doing is just quickly comparing it to a similar encounter you had with another guy.