₦airaland Forum

Shma2020:
Dwarf. What you're saying is completely out of context. You're just blubbering words to suit your broken ego. That Madam never said anything l emboldened. If you're insecure of Accra slumbolish - cos the entire Accra is a slum outside tiny airport cBD, then you need to decipher with your village elders or your dwarf president and don't bring your insecurities on me. Okay?

East Legon, Tema, Madina, Adenta and etc is outside CBD and airport area but no kenyan community can match it beauty and development.

Zombie with his usual smallman argument.

vaxx:
what a stupid injunction. ""If the dog reached the age of consent and was willing to marry the lady"" how do you measure this and arrive at this madness .

some people are just mad

As if the dog can give consent

No wonder the madness is coming from a Kenyan

vankelvin:
Cote DIvoire took Ghana to ICC over Sea boundary issues (oil dispute).
They hired White Lawyers and black Ivorian men to lead them in Court..

Ghana went with female Lawyers.. We showed them levels... We had a unanimous win/victory over them.... Togo saw the ruling and back down on their planned ICC court case with Ghana over Sea boundary that has to do with Oil..... (France can't escape blame in this, they are behind it)

These half baked graduate lawyers from Kenya went to court to face Somalia and they lose mercilessly...

The difference is clear.

Unfortunately, precedent was not in their favour

vankelvin:
The guy really sounds dumb

typical Kenyan he is

Mkenya2019:
Animals can be killed humanly with gas. This is what happens even in Ethiopia.

gas firing living living animals is the humanly way ?


Lord have mercy

jl115:
Do you even know what most dynamic means?? since half of these cities are actually sh1tholes just like Nairobi that rank near the bottom in terms of QOL

Mkenya2019:
Compare yourself to Togo and similar small countries. Kenya in many things apart from minerals is simply miles ahead. Your big zoo has no hope - how can little Ghana even compete.

You see the South Africans starting to catch feelings already.

Losers tantrums

First raise your country medical practitioners number from 2000

Ghanaian medical professionals get flow all over Europe and the US to perform surgeries

jl115:
And 6825 US adolescents is certainly a great representation of the world population

These Kenyans will eat up any shit

vankelvin:
Ghana is also home for Medical tourism.. We have a good number of our neighbours coming for medical check up etc here but that's not what I asked you.

Even during the peak of Covid we had a good number of Politician being flown into Ghana for medical help so chill.

I only asked you about *how offen people travel to Kenya to persue medicine in your one building universities*

Mkenya2019:
When Nigeria start flying their sick to Accra talk. You have exported all your doctors. Best hospital ? You guys got small country jokes. Not even a Togolese will bring their sick to Accra.

meanwhile Patients are flown in daily from Liberia, Togo, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Gambia, Mali , Burkina Faso, Ivory Coast and etc daily for specialist care here

Let us know when Kenya can have this much traffic... Especially when you don't even have enough Doctors.

Mkenya2019:
When Nigeria start flying their sick to Accra talk. You have exported all your doctors. Best hospital ? You guys got small country jokes. Not even a Togolese will bring their sick to Accra.

meanwhile Patients are flown in daily from Liberia, Togo, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Gambia, Mali , Burkina Faso, Ivory Coast and etc daily for specialist care here

Let us know when Kenya can have this much traffic... Especially when you don't even have enough Doctors.

Mkenya2019:
Kenya medical doctors and hospitals provide referal services for more than 10 countries. Patients are daily flown from as far Congo for treatment in Nairobi. Kenya doctors are so highly paid - very few consider relocating abroad. Burundi president was flown in. Magufuli died in Nairobi. The same bed the Tanzania opposition leader he tried to murder by pumping 20 bullets was rescued from..after being flown from Dar....and magufuli wasnt lucky.

no country will accept Kenya half baked doctors... Except those willing to retrain them ..

The president of Liberia and it ministers all receive medical care here and it includes Gambia, Mali and Burkina Faso.

Ghanaian hospitals received patients from all 15 west African countries daily and that's not to include those flown from East and Central Africa.

vankelvin:
Ask them for me, how often do people travel to Kenya to persue Medicine in their one building universities?

Ghanaian Doctors are respected anywhere in the World. They are trained for the World but Kenyan Doctors are trained for Kenyans, the World can't risk human life's just like that

Who will trust their life with a half baked doctor ?

Mkenya2019:
https://ghanamedassoc.org/ - Ghana Medical Association - has only 7000 members. I wonder how many are practising.

Kenya medical association has less than 2000 members and it's pathetic

Mkenya2019:
Ghana Single Spine Salary Structure - you answers are all there.

Ghana single spine salary structure pays a junior doctor more than a Kenyan doctor will earn including a 250% allowance on basic salary..

Pay your doctor's well and make their certificates globally competitive

Mkenya2019:
The truth is you underpay your doctors so much they want to relocate abroad; leaving Ghana with few doctors; and like NIgeria; you probably spend a fortune to fly sick relatives to India and such countries.

The truth is kenya gov pay our doctors very well - and even recently imported doctors from Cuba - who get paid 8,000usd per month.

In terms of number of doctors last I checked South Africa had 45,000 - Nigeria 30,000 - Kenya 15,000 - practising doctors. Ghana I bet would struggle to get 5,000.

Yet Ghana has more doctors than Kenya.... Make it make sense

Kenyan doctors are even less paid than junior doctors in Ghana

Argue with facts and not tantrums

vankelvin:
Oh come on jobless doctors? like how..

Ghanaian Doctors are very very good.

The truth of the matter is Kenya trained Doctors are inferioir to their counterparts trained in Nigeria, South Africa and Ghana.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC544595/%23:~:text%3DA%2520total%2520of%25205334%2520physicians,Nigeria%252C%2520South%2520Africa%2520and%2520Ghana.&ved=2ahUKEwiGy_q_1cTzAhWMAMAKHcBSBvQQFnoECAoQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1n_RzPgIr36Lqh9wQpMCJD&cshid=1634034787269

Just 10 medical schools from Africa are producing some of the world most competitive doctors

mtisTheQubit:
400 jobless doctors wan go back home to apply job there..shows the quality of Ghananian doctors..Dubai is asking for Kenya Doctors..ask why not Ghananian doctors

They can work anywhere they want but will rather be licensed and work in Ghana .

Mkenya2019:
Useless childish rant devoid of facts.

all those facts are available at your finger tips .... Do you need me to spoonfeed you with them too? Obtuse zombie

You can find out the doctor to patient ratio of both countries from the UN ... You can also find out the number of doctors trained by both countries.

You can also find out foreign trained doctors who get licensed every year..


Next time don't throw tantrums in your useless arguments

mtisTheQubit:
Are ths Doctors from other countires..give me a link bro..

400 doctors trained abroad waiting for licenses to practice in Ghana...
Help yourself
https://mobile.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/400-foreign-trained-Ghanaian-doctors-stranded-as-local-exam-results-delay-1324033

There are also a list of 200 practicing specialist from around the world waiting licenses to practice in Ghana.

Need that too

Like I said, Kenya is not a match for Ghana in anything practical

Mkenya2019:
Your medical doctors every year vote with their feet and cross seas to work abroad. Those who cant run to South Africa. Kenya proffesional pay is very competitive. What your doctors earn is what nurses get paid.

In kenya - careers like doctors - even Kenya asians - who would normally want to emigrate do not - you find many kenya asian doctors.

That's because we train more than enough Doctors a year and our professionals are highly sort after .... They get flown around the world for their professional services.

Kenya professionals pay is peanut and they are highly poor and can't even afford good accomodations in Kenya...
Unfortunately, they can't even go anywhere because their certificates ain't internationally competitive..

That is how much Kenya has failed it people..

Kenya nurses are even less paid than Ghanaian diploma nurses.

Let Kenya first train enough Doctors to meet it doctors to patients ratio.

Mkenya2019:
Your medical doctors every year vote with their feet and cross seas to work abroad. Those who cant run to South Africa. Kenya proffesional pay is very competitive. What your doctors earn is what nurses get paid.

In kenya - careers like doctors - even Kenya asians - who would normally want to emigrate do not - you find many kenya asian doctors.

That's because we train more than enough Doctors a year and our professionals are highly sort after .... They get flown around the world for their professional services.

Kenya professionals pay is peanut and they are highly poor and can't even afford good accomodations in Kenya...
Unfortunately, they can't even go anywhere because their certificates ain't internationally competitive..

That is how much Kenya has failed it people..

Kenya nurses are even less paid than Ghanaian diploma nurses .

mtisTheQubit:
explain ths bro... really...

There are far more specialist doctors waiting for licenses to work in Ghana than the number of doctors even trained in Ghana...


Understood now?

Mkenya2019:
I rather listen to this lady than your useless childish rants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAQXi4gAj-U

hope you listen to the part where she told you that your salaries are peanuts

You can rant on all you want but you won't change those facts..

All most 250% of gross salary is what Ghanaian medical doctors take as allowance. Apart from the fees they take for consultation and other services..


Accommodation Allowance – 40% of Basic Salary
On Call Duty Facilitation Allowance – 20% of Basic Salary
Clothing Allowance – 30% of Basic Salary
Book Allowance – 30% of Basic Salary
Utility Allowance – 20% of Basic Salary
Professional Allowance – 50% of Basic Salary
Special Risk Allowance – 25% of Basic Salary
Vehicle Maintenance Allowance – 20% of Basic Salary

Mkenya2019:
Dont ever compare any Ghana salary with Kenya. There is a reason why kenya proffesional do not emigrate abroad in such numbers as Ghana.

A medical intern in kenya earns more than any of your doctors. They start at 2,000usd in medical internationship per month - that is 24,000 per year

An internship license issued by the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Board is necessary to work as an intern doctor. As per the structure of doctors’ salaries, intern doctors salary in Kenya starts from KSH 207,000 per month inclusive of allowances.

Ghana joke

Avg. gross salary (USD) Avg. gross salary
Permanent US$ 16,394 GHS 66,703
Contract US$ 19,131 GHS 86,000
Self Employed US$ 2,644 GHS 12,000
Part Time US$ 3,919 GHS 9,950

Have you not wondered why Ghana has more doctors per Capita than Kenya?

Have you wondered why more doctors from Abroad want to work in Ghana and we don't see the same in Kenya?

Simple ans... Salary and better infrastructure


A Ghanaian fresh doctor earns 3000 dollars incentive inclusive.

obaaderemi:
Don't mind him.
Kenya has always had aid to survive. No wonder the donors are always laughing at them.
We haven't forgotten the story of the British diplomat who lambasted Kenyans for eating Aid money like gluttons and vomiting on the shoes of the donors like animals.

They go and beg with their big bellies and shameless faces .... And donors use them to mop the floor like rug

Mkenya2019:
Kenya private sector pays so much.....Ghana cannot even dream of it.

For example this lawyer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK0BqOTirZg
Owns this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_sRODhFsK0

why will Ghana want to be an aid dependent poor country like Kenya?

We have better dreams
Hit me up when you have facts from your country that you can face Ghana with.

Mkenya2019:
What is huge salary Put it in cedis or dollars so we can laugh. Every Ghanian dream it to escape abroad because your salary are simply crap. Kenyan proffesional are paid almost equal if not more than countries abroad.

No self respecting kenya doctor will ever immigrate abroad. Or kenya lawyer. Simply IMPOSSIBLE.

You can lie oo

Your sister just complained that Kenyans are paid peanuts compare to foreigners doing the same job and that Ghanaians earn way more salary than Kenyans (not that we didn't know already) and that was the main reason why she moved to Ghana.

No Kenyan professional is paid as much as Ghanaians are paid..
And that is why Ghanaians can afford to live comfortably lives in huge mansions meanwhile Kenyans have to live in terrible apartments.


No Kenyan doctor will ever be recruited to practice anywhere because Kenyan certificate is less recognized...

Ghanaian lawyers after school, get immediately called to both the Ghana Bar, London Bar, Gambian bar and can easily find themselves at the New York bar.. That is how great Ghanaian professional certificates are.

Kenya should focus on getting it school certificates to international standard and try training more professionals who can compete globally.

Mkenya2019:
Quick Google search - Ghana imports mostly industrial supplies, capital and consumer goods and foodstuffs. - PRIMITIVE ECONOMY
Versus

Kenya
Kenya imports mostly machinery and transportation equipment, petroleum products, motor vehicles, iron and steel, resins and plastics. Kenya main import partners are India, China, UAE, South Africa, Saudi Arabia, United States and Japan.

Why would Ghana import when we can make most of the things we need right here?

Quick Google search will show you that our import bill Has consistently dropped for 15 years ...


Kenya need to be able to manufacture all the things it need and not rely on import.

Mkenya2019:
Kenya exports are stuck around 5-6B dollars because poor countries like Ghana/Uganda are starting to manufacture basic things.
Ghana export basically cocoa beans and then minerals. You do not even export manufactured goods to Togo or Ivory coast.
You're still doing import substitution - that is BONE HEADED economic policy that we long abandoned in the 1980s.
Nigeria is also onto that import substitution -
Countries that developed - focus on Export Manufacturing -
Kenya imports lots of goods it cannot do otherwise but import.
Oil - 3B - Cooking oil - Machinery - Cars and equipment etc.
We do not import lots of manufactured finished goods.

So now it is Ghana's fault that your poor country Kenya can't manufacture anything at all, so it export is primary products and stock at 5 billion?

Mkenya2019:
Ghana Beyond Aid is a hoax? Maybe you should call your president first and break that good news - that Ghana is now a manufacturing giant like Kenya - that exports 3.5-4B dollars worth of manufactured goods to COMESA - 2nd only to Egypt.

Kenya is one of the leading economies in Eastern and Southern Africa. Intra COMESA exports amounted to US$ 3,480 million in 2006, comprising 29% of total exports, with an ever growing demand for Kenya's manufactured products.

In fact of 6B dollars exports - nearly everything is processed or semi-processed - including tea.

you can keep telling yourself those lies
Kenya total export is 5 billion dollars and we all know what and what contributes to that..

Anyway, no more lies here. Let's deal with facts.....

Manage to reduce your country import bill from 22 billion dollars to less than 15 billion dollars just like Ghana has managed to reduce it import bill from 18 billion dollars to 11 billion dollars over the last 15 years...

This shows a huge manufacturing boom.

Today, Ghana none cocoa and none mineral exports amount to 7 billion dollars which is still more than your country total export....

Ghana Beyond aid is a huge success that has seen more than 20 billion dollars pumped into the manufacturing sector over just 2 years. We have a boom in factories construction and an expansion in existing ones everywhere

Before this Ghana Beyond aid campaign(which is more like a Ghana Beyond import dependence), all aid to Ghana seized in 2010.... I'm waiting to see Kenya finally stand on it two feets...

Mkenya2019:
You're still an AID plus mineral dependent country. Your economy is primitive agrarian pre-industrial informal economy. Your legislators are primitive.

You biggest road - that is named George Walker Bush (mass murderer) - was donation. Please rename it to something like Kofi Annan highway - who names a road after a despicable man like George Bush Jnr.

funny enough we are neither aid nor mineral dependent...

Also funny enough my economy is not even agrarian and more sophisticated than yours with a higher manufacturing sector that has made us less dependent on import... I hope your country can get there too.

Get your country Kenya out of the aid business, it is too highly dependent on aid... Even Turkey of yesterday is now aiding you
My country is highly dependent on the service sector...By a tune of almost 60%.

My country biggest road is the motorway and George walker Bush Highway was not a donation but a bribe for us to accept American companies participating in our oil sector.

We can talk about Bush morals all we want but Bush was a good partner to Africa.