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Business › Re: Are more British-born Nigerians moving back to Nigeria ? by justwise(m): 12:53pm On Feb 19, 2013
2bosun: Here we go again
grin grin
Travel › Re: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by justwise(mod): 11:43am On Feb 19, 2013
debosky: ^^
Thanks for the clarification - but the UKBA site does say the administrative review will be completed within 28 days. You will be notified of the result in writing. Maybe that is only applicable to the PBS-related admin reviews.
That is just true in paper but in reality it takes 3months or more. When i went for appeal 3yrs ago it took more than 6months, sent in appeal by Sept, got date of hearing Jan 10th,after the hearing i got the tribunal's decision in mid-Feb, and visa came April.

Its a painful waiting time that you wouldn't wish your worst enemy, and throughout this waiting time you are not allowed to contact UKBA until 6wks.
Travel › Re: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by justwise(mod): 10:56am On Feb 19, 2013
debosky: I have accessed the admin review form from the UKBA site and I sent her a link. On further reflection I think re-applying may be a better option.



Thanks again - I think I am of a similar opinion. Waiting 28 days when you can't submit any additional evidence sounds like a waste of time to me.



Thanks lamosy - I appreciate the advice.
28days will be a miracle, it takes more than 3months in most cases.
Travel › Re: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by justwise(mod): 9:57am On Feb 19, 2013
debosky: ^^ Thanks sir.

In the cases you are aware of, did the individuals submit the admin review using the PBS admin review form or did they simply write directly to the High Commission?

I'm now trying to confirm whether she was provided with an appeal form - the guidance on the UKBA website indicates that if you do have grounds for appeal you will be provided with an appeal form along with your decision notification.

I'm beginning to think re-applying might be the most viable option with a clearer breakdown of where the funds have been accumulated and more detailed description of her itinerary when she visits.
Review form is sent by post by the applicant to UKBA, but the appeal form is sent to immigration tribunal address. the review form is different from appeal form and yes if you are given the right to appeal then the form and other package will be given to you but with limited right to appeal you will not be given any form. Review form is readily available online free.

I'm not a fan of administrative review, it takes far too long and there is no guarantee that its going to be positive result. If she can deal with those issues raised by the ECO in the refusal letter then re-applying is quicker and less stressful. Like you said, if she can comfortably deal with those issues then she should go ahead with re-applying.
Travel › Re: How Do I Get Police Report? by justwise(mod): 12:53am On Feb 19, 2013
rokee: My friend is inviting me over to equatorial guinea.He said I should send him my passport and a police report. The problem is I don't know how to go about getting the police report.
https://www.nairaland.com/266144/anyone-tell-me-how-get
Travel › Re: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by justwise(mod): 10:50pm On Feb 18, 2013
debosky: I am still a bit confused by this so please indulge me. [b]The administrative review procedure appears available only for those that have made applications under the PBS system - [/b]as far as I'm aware, general visitor visas are not under the PBS system. Is this correct, and if so, doesn't that mean you can't submit an admin review for a general visitor refusal?

Secondly, if the right of appeal is only under 'human rights' why does that mean there is not really any right of appeal? Is it worth doing anything else such as consulting a legal advisor or simply re-applying?
You are right in your observation and i'm glad you pointed that out, in paper administrative review is for PBS but people who felt that the ECO was wrong in his or her judgment still go ahead with review as its free and so far i haven't seen anybody who got his or her paper returned, last year one i know was successful while the other two weren't.

The human issue is ambiguous and open for interpretation hence the reason why people still go ahead and submit review form because its their human right to seek a review of their case.

An legal advisor who will be paid for the job will probably take the job of writing the embassy on your behalf requesting for a reconsideration but in reality that is as good as going for review.

Now...if you want to re-apply..surely you can with much more details explanation about the issues raised in the refusal letter...things like...the timing of her travel, the money in her account that did not match her monthly earnings.

She need to do a min-budget of what the trip will cost her and a list of places she wishes to visit in the UK
Business › Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by justwise(m): 9:37pm On Feb 18, 2013
[quote author=Sky-walker]WTF bbfever shocked. This is also your other ID and you already have 354 posts and of course selling properties as usual.[/quote]These are other IDs he uses: damogulxx, 4everGod1's,4evergod2, 4everGod, 4evergod3, babaGod1,damogu, 4everGod1
Business › Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by justwise(m): 9:32pm On Feb 18, 2013
buchibabe: Jehovah Armagedon!!! No b bbfever be dis? So u opened anoda id? Kaiii omo I like ya spirit. U dnt give up. U really mean dis ur defense bizness.
Smhbr(shaking my head badly and rigorously)
He has 8 of them.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 9:07pm On Feb 18, 2013
MEILYN: did she steal any money u own?
Silly question
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:58pm On Feb 18, 2013
MEILYN: i noticed it........nw u re talking u could av said dis earlier.....nw i know where d madness is coming from....
My madness is coming from people like you who think its okey to support a thieve like Wunmi Allen
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:56pm On Feb 18, 2013
bbfever: [/b]


Guess you are the mor0n in your family
We don't have one though i'm dealing with one here.
Travel › Re: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by justwise(mod): 8:55pm On Feb 18, 2013
debosky: Thanks for your response my oga. I suspect as much - I am asking her to provide a breakdown of the credits and debits from the account to justify the amounts present.



That's the bit that's gotten me a bit confused - I said I'll be responsible for her accommodation and general upkeep in the UK, but she did mention she would have some funds as well on her trip. It seems the main issue is the funds in her account, or is my ability to accommodate her also in question?



This is the important bit for me - the letter indicated that 'your right of appeal is limited to the grounds referred to in section 84(1)(c) of the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 - that section talks about human rights. Does that mean she can't appeal? If only a review is feasible, can you give me some idea of what that involves?


You are right in asking her to give a break down of in-coming and out-goings in her account, that would have solved the whole issue about un-explained amount in her account.

Yes the main issue is the fund in her account, the ECO is not sure if the whole money is hers or some borrowed money, if its borrowed then her UK trip will affect her economic situation in Nigeria hence the decision to refuse her visa.


When the letter stated that your right of appeal is limited is basically saying that you got no right to appeal. She is only left with review, for review all she need to do is to download the form, complete it and in that form, there is enough space for her to pour her heart out about the refusal, arguing against every point the ECO raised, she is allowed to use extra paper to explain things. They have all her documents already so there is no need for her to attach any other document with the review paper, the decision on her review will be made based on the initial documents submitted.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:33pm On Feb 18, 2013
bbfever: And you are an idi0t by divine appointment.
Divine should be the last word that should come out of the mouth of dubious character like you.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:32pm On Feb 18, 2013
MEILYN: like ur father righthuhhuh? U beta go nd find sumtin doing.......stop making oda ppl's problem worse.......u re just increasing Aieromon's problem Mr Fight For Scam Victims
I wouldn't bring any of your family member into this because they got nothing to do with this. You probably come from a decent family but as in everything there is always one m0r0n spoiling the good name of other family members.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:23pm On Feb 18, 2013
MEILYN: u re jst getting senseless day by day no improvment.................if dey should ask me who is a scammer here i would easily fish u out........u talk,behave nd tink like a scammer.......i tink i should create a thread 4 u........hw will u feel if ppl start accusing u witout proof? Or without ur own side of d story? Ok lets try it nd see....


You just proved to me that you are an id0lt by default for saying that nonsense
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:19pm On Feb 18, 2013
bbfever: This is the delegation you have received, Help us go collect the money
Delegation from a criminal minded individual like you? That is like going on evangelism with a stolen car
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:17pm On Feb 18, 2013
[quote author=i.]JUSTWISE... chill, yes she knows how much she owes(not owns) as at ten months ago... bank charges and interests nko/ or business man no go collect interest on his money? those are details she needs to discuss.
and ps my age isnt the issue... na how to collect our money and profit.[/quote]That is her bloody concern, she need to pay back the amount she collected, is that simple.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:15pm On Feb 18, 2013
bbfever: Oya go collect the money come for us abeg. Trace her with your nose and meat sorry fish her out. She needs to pay up is all you have been saying. Go and collect it for Aigbe now
She will, she can only run but can not hide, she will definitely pay back.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:14pm On Feb 18, 2013
MEILYN: Fact# d day u will av a problem nobody will stick his or her neck 4 u..........nd better still hw re ur comments solving matters here? u re jst taking panadol 4 sumone's headache..........hw will ur comment make her pay back? Even if she had d intension of paying back ur comments will make her change her mind.........
Stop sticking ur nose wrongly,tink b4 u act, just be wise, so ur username dont tell u dat
Get lost! Do i need to say that in English language?
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:13pm On Feb 18, 2013
bbfever: before onyibo teach you that word 'scam' did you ever know it existed? see your mouth like scammer. You just tear mouth dey shout scam o scam o. In case you dont know even you be scammer. Na because we never table your matter for hia? no push me o. I go push back . hehehehe


Oh please go ahead!, table my matter, is so funny that shameless fools like you think you can rap your way out of this. Think again.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:07pm On Feb 18, 2013
MEILYN: u know nofin about life or business.........lets give her sumtime if she doesnt pay back den we can start saying all dis
See..listen mate, stop this crap, the time for..... give her some time to pay up.. has come and gone. She is a confirmed scammer and need to pay up..end of the story.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:05pm On Feb 18, 2013
[quote author=i.]hey justwise chill... yes she should pay up i support but how? and how much should she pay? also proof of payments being made are required!
not the one that we will see a thread, i paid ooh and how do we prove she has paid? at least the MOD involve will gist us as she pays![/quote]Come-on! how old are you? Why should you ask how much she should pay back and proof of payment.

Doesn't she know how much she owns? Are you being serious?
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 8:03pm On Feb 18, 2013
MEILYN: u were not scammed,u dont know d person dat was scammed........u carry d matter 4 head pass d person wey ona claim say dem scam....... Oga pack well jare no be say dem go pay u sef
I joined nairaland 4yrs ago purely because of people like Wunmi Allen, i hate them with passion and i don't need to be scammed or invited before i stick my nose in a case like this. So get lost with ur silly comment because you will read more and more from me.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 7:58pm On Feb 18, 2013
MEILYN: lol guy cool down,ok where is Aieromon nw? Since hw many days nw he hasnt showed up doesnt dat tell u sumtin? If Wunmi is a scammer she would nt say she will pay back........do scammers pay back? Wunmi have been on dis forum 4 long if she wanted to scam she will find a better way to do it.......dis woman has created a reputation here,so y would she scamhuh U guys better dont judge because d way dey will accuse u,u wont like it
This post just confirmed that u know little or nothing about this case and you should take time to read this case AND about more than 3 other people she has scammed yrs ago.

You asked if scammers pay back and my question to you is: Has Wunmi Allen paid back?
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 7:52pm On Feb 18, 2013
bbfever: Ol boy see person wey mama born o. Guy abeg go back and pick up your brains where you obviously forgot them. Amazing!
One thing is for sure, my brain is right in order, not be to messed about by bunch of criminals and i will never be your or Wunmi Allen's victim any day any time.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 7:48pm On Feb 18, 2013
[quote author=i.]you see there are always allegations and counter allegations, people have to seat down and wade through to find out the substance. to me the only substance here is; the parties did business which went bad and money was lost! however the party with the cash took the high road and stop communicating for reasons best known to her, but mehn the money still dey on ground naa and cannot be swept away.
so it is for th parties (when they were doing the business we no dey dere and we no go chop for the profit ooh) tp seat down and discuss how and wen the money will be returned> i suggest using a MODS like SEUN or NAIJACUTEE or MUKINA2 to resolve it since they have the name of nairaland to protect.[/quote]

There is no need for that, Wunmi Allen should return the money simple. What you are suggesting is another way to prolong her thieving career.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 7:45pm On Feb 18, 2013
[quote author=i.]well as i said earlier in the other thread, we always need to hear the other side of every story, and not in a fit of anger forget that the other party too has rights.
i have read her story and his and i beleive it is for the MODS to create an avenue for all aggrieved parties to air thier differences and work out ways to achieve aieromon's objective which is; he wants his money.
as to others here who beleive that saying the truth makes you an associate of a scammer wen i get your time i will respond.
please work on that and all this scammer this, scammer that will end! or he wanted to sleep with me or he wanted a fair share of my national cake will end.[/quote]Oh please! stop fooling yourself, you are not dealing with kids here, Wunmi Allen is a scammer, she should pay up, she doesn't deserve any apology from anybody here, if you and bbever feel that there is legal ground to sue anybody here for false allegation then see you in court.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 7:35pm On Feb 18, 2013
MEILYN: Av she scammed u before? Get ur facts right bro,u cant judge sum1 like dat by anoda person's testimony......dont say it because others re saying it......if she was a scammer she wont cum here nd start telling us stories........Afteral Those Guys Avnt Come Here To Deny D Aligation
That is what scammers do very well.
Travel › Re: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by justwise(mod): 7:33pm On Feb 18, 2013
debosky: I'd like to request for some advice on making an appeal.

A friend of mine applied for a visa to come visit me in the UK later this year - I provided the usual - invitation letter, payslips, bank statements, council tax bill, etc. I was contacted by the embassy and I confirmed the information they had was correct (the only 'snag' was possibly that I didn't remember where she worked when they called me at work) and they said they were going to review the information.

My friend works as a doctor in Nigeria, is single, earns about 150k/month and had about 800k in her bank account.

The reason given for refusal is below:

You have declared you are employed as a medical doctor and earn 140k/month and you have no family commitments in Nigeria. You also state that you propose to travel alone as a tourist and will stay with friends. You have also not shown that there is any special reason for timing of this trip now. Given statements you have made and the documentary evidence you have presented to support your application I am not satisfied that the circumstances in Nigeria, couple dwith your reasons for wishing to travel to the UK are such that you have shown your intentions are as stated or that you intend to leave the UK at the end of your proposed visit. I am therefore not satisfied that your application meets the requirements of pargraph 4 (i) and (ii) of the Immigration Rules

You have submitted your personal bank statements from xx Bank Plc showing a current balance of 800k which is equivalent to over 5 months of your income. The credit and balances in your account are not commensurate with your declared monthly income. I note you have declared no additional income from any other sources on your VAF. On the evidence you have provided I am not satisfied that your bank statement is a true reflection of your financial circumstances or that these funds are genuinely available for your proposed trip to the UK. Therefofre for the reasons stated above on the balance of probabilities, i am not satisfied that you will be maintained and accommodated in the UK without working or having recourse to public funds or are able to meet the cost of return or an onward journey as required by paragraph 41 (vi) and (vii) of HC295.
The ECO suspected that she borrowed money to inflate her bank account just for the visa purpose and that cast doubt on her ability to finance the trip and return back to Nigeria. Having a strong financial record with paper evidence would have strengthened her application and also service as her tie-to Nigeria.

N800K is a lot of money but if there a doubt that the money will not be available to her in the UK then there is problem.

Sadly she will not be given the right to appeal such refusal, she can only go for review (which takes time)though she will not be allowed to submit any document to support her review, its a time for her to dispute all the points the ECO raised in the refusal letter.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 5:48pm On Feb 18, 2013
bbfever: It works both ways. The folks on Nairaland would first kill you before trying to find out what happened or the way forward. This is Aluu community style on Nairaland. This must change.
That approach is perfectly ok as long as its directed to a well-known criminals like your madam.
Business › Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by justwise(m): 4:13pm On Feb 18, 2013
bbfever: Now I know to be thick in the head is a curse. I just spoke intelligently in my post and in ur customary manner you exhibit childishness
That is what you think but sadly many of us here don't see any atom of intelligence in all your random posts, there is nothing intelligent about defending a career criminal, what part of those victims plea do you and your partner in crime do not understand?

Deal was not delivered, pay back, simple. Why all these campaign to intimidate, derail and shadow punching for more than a year now?

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