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Ubenedictus: the scriptures showed that she possesed a plentiful of grace before the birth of christ. How do you explain that uh?

What is Grace?
Grace is God's unmerited favor. It is kindness from God we don't deserve. There is nothing we have done, nor can ever do to earn this favor.
She possesing a plentiful of Grace is the reason why she was the most qualified for the incubation of Christ.
After all you and I also posses plentiful grace(Heb4:16,2Pet3:17-18)

Ubenedictus: .
is anybody contesting the holiness of Jesus?

I delibrately wrote that there,because I know some athiest and dumb fellows may likely ask about the holiness of Christ

Ubenedictus: go and learn to interprete scripture 'all have sined', "none is righteous" they are generalisation, and like generalisation they have exceptions. Did Jesus sin Yet d bible say all has sined, was Jesus righteous? My friend go and learn about the use of generalisation in scriptures.

Tell me someone who has not sin aside from Jesus,if all generalisation is/are wrong........(waiting).

You should know that those scriptures you were quoting was written/quoted by Paul,and he was definitely pointing towards Jesus as the only Sinless person(so is generalisation excluded only Jesus(except you ready to show me anyother person also excluded).And Paul made it clear that Jesus was sinless(excluded from his generalisation)(2Cor5:21)

Ubenedictus: Yet the bible say no one is righteous rm4:9 shows that abraham was righteous, another exception. My friend go and learn about the use of generalisation in scriptures.

Abraham was righteous based on the requirement then(dispensation of promise).The fact that Abraham was righteous didnt mean that he didnt sin(afterall am also righteous 2Cor5:21).
I never said Mary was not righteous(if she wasnt the HolySpirit wouldnt have overshadowed her).
My contention is portraying Mary has sinless.

dattaswami: You can thank God for providing the food. However you should not ask anything from Him.

Do not ask any thing from God which is either related to present or future. When you ask some thing in present or some thing in the future, it clearly means that you are reminding Him about the corresponding reaction that is to be immediately implemented in the need. This indirectly means that God is not alert as you are. This is insulting God. Due to such sin the requirement is not answered. If you are asking to protect yourself or somebody else, it indirectly means that He is not aware of the things to be done due to the irresponsibility and this also indicates that He is not as kind as yourself.

It means that God has potency to help but not kind enough to render the help. On contrary, it also means that you lack unfortunately the potency. It means if you fortunately have the potency you could have immediately responded and helped. Therefore, when ever you ask for anything it clearly means indirectly that God has some type of defect, which does not exist in your case. When you ask Him to fulfill the desire it looks as if that your desire is constitutionally justified. But God is not positively reacting due to either lack of positive response immediately or due to lack of knowledge of the constitution or due to lack of kindness to help the needy. All these points are very very subtle. But God is the most subtle and therefore, the knowledge of this analysis will certainly restrict you from asking any fulfillment of your desire.

Never bring present and future before God. Confine to the past always before God. Look back at your past life. Hundreds of incidents are there where you were helped by God. Even if you dispose some incidents through the incidental probability of success or through the efficiency of your efforts, certainly there are plenty of instances in which the help from God is clearly evident. At least remember those few incidents and express your gratefulness along praise to God for His kind help that was already done. The word Krutajnata means remembering the past help. Kruta means the past help done. Jna means identifying it by analysis. If you confine to praying the Lord and thanking Him always about the past helps from Him, the Lord will be immensely pleased. Then the present and future are spontaneously taken care of by the God. But do not adopt this technique with a mind that you will be helped by God in the present and in the future by following this procedure!

You should really follow this path and you should really forget the present and the future. When large number of people came to hear the message from Jesus, they were hungry by the noon. This point was brought to the notice of Jesus. He never asked God to provide food for those hungry people who came to hear God’s word. Had He asked for that, He would have insulted God. God knows His responsibility very well towards the devotees who came there to hear about Him. God has the power to fulfill His responsibility even in the last fraction of second. Had Jesus told God to bless the devotees with food, it clearly means that God is not as kind as Jesus. Jesus never asked for any thing. He came to know that there were four breads. He took them and showed to sky. He thanked God for providing those four pieces of bread.

Immediately the present was responded and the four breads became four thousand breads. This application of analysis is limited to Nivrutti only. You should not extend this to Pravrutti. When you are hungry you have to beg the other souls because they are not omniscient to know that you are hungry. Pravrutti and Nivrutti should never be mixed.

INSIPIDITY

Everything depends on the definition of a virgin.
afterall someone who does anal will still have her hymen intact,not to talk of oral.
As far as am concern everyone has committed fornication in their heart(going by Jesus's standard I doubt if there is still a virgin).The only virgin left are those whose hymen is intact,and that doesnt mean that they are not worse than non virgins(it just that there hymen is still sealed).
For the records am yet to have sex with a girl(I aint gay,I know am heterosexual,just that still yet to have my first girlfriend)

holyvirgin: who says a virgin can.t satisfy u? Fallacy, rome was nt built in a day. Wit tym she would learn nd perfect any skills, u kip sounding lyk a baby 2 me.

HolyVirgin I need you to respond to my post on 'happy birthday blessed mother mary''s post
Thanks for your anticipated response

ahhh,all this comment just scares me oooo.
God grant me enough grace to be able to wait for that special someone.
I cant imagine the agony of having sex with multiple girls.

I dey waka pass,na women matter,im no concern me,just wan do amebo.

Jubal01: I'l consida ur 1st point. Bt d 2nd? Wat has maturity got 2 do wit showin emotion? Is it nomal dat u date a gal 4 almst a yr n ur alwys 2geda bt yet u avnt seen ha get angry even 1s?

She is exhibiting self control.
Just slap her,if she doesnt get angry,then I advise you run for your life

holyvirgin: u c y i dn't lyk wat u say? Who should she b afraid of God or man? What if she dies durin abortn? Committin murder 2 cover sin is nt what is sensible

HolyVirgin am awaiting your response on my post on 'happy birthday blessed mother mary''s thread.
Thanks for your anticipated response

Priceless95: Religion stuff&he is too bossy 4 my likin.i broke up wit him.he didnt bleep me.maybe dat wat he wants to do

Return of Abija wara(he is back for the return leg and he has to win),
He wants to bleep you,simple as 1,2,3.........

as for me,a capital NO.

This a big risk,I understand your pain.If you have to wait for two years then you must be sure he is going to marry you.But he is also getting the degree for the benefit of both of you.
Tell him your fears and ask him for assurrance that you will always remain number one.

peroskyeze: IT MEANS SAY U DON INCREASE UR IQ BY 2 MARKS

na wa o

Screwface: Although I doubt the authenticity* of this story,i'l stil comment.
Your age automatically makes you a Child,and as such,your 28-year-old guy abused you. If am not mistaken,that crime carries a jail term.
You have two choices available to you here:
*Tell your parents first.
*Tell your boyfriend first.
Dnt ask me what they'l do cus i dnt know..and u beta tel dem fast

I know what they will do.
*Your Parent's will rake on you(you such a disgrace to the family .......blah blah blah and they will ask you for who ever is responsible for it,the fact remains that your parent my threaten to disown you especially your father but I doubt if they will,but if you father disowns you your mum wont,I know that for sure(omo eni o le buru titi ka fi fun ekun paje).
*Your boyfriend will suggest an abortion and may likely drug you if you resist

I really feel sorry for you,because this event has marked the begining of a new dawn in your life(you officially a mother).

Very simple,she just has to write out all the bad qualities of the guy on a paper.
Paste the paper on her bed side cabinet,so she sees it every morning and night after she wakes and before she sleeps respectively.
I bet you,she will dislike him after 3 days

Its's not a matter of 'If it is a sin',it is a sin.

Jubal01: Pls wat shud i do?

Slap her.
If she still doesnt get angry after the slap,bleep another girl in her presence.
If she still doesnt get angry,Run or else you go soon die.
My 2 cent

Jubal01: bt al she'l do is 2 say hmmmm & coyly smile.

She is probably so in love with you that she is so blind to your actions or maybe she is just showing that she is more matured than you

peroskyeze: SEE K2039 FINALLY HAS SOME SENSE N SAID SOMETHING SMART FOR ONCE
THE MAN IN QUESTION WANTS TO BLEEP YOU THATS ALL

Finally has some sense(na wetin dat one mean)

peroskyeze: DEY DERE N DEY TYPE FICTION. U DEY ACT AS IF SAY NA ME B D ONLY GUY WEY DEY DIP INTO HIM SISTERS PUNNY. ABEG SHIFT N MAKE ROOM 4 PPL WEY GET ADVICE 4 ME. IF U NO GET ANYTHIN BENEFICIAL DEN OPEN UR MOUTH SO I GO FIT SQUIRT MY FLUID INTO DAT UR STUPID MOUTH. SILLY BAGGAR

Even if it is true then you are really demented,just that you are still wearing cloth and also typing with your phone/laptop.
Asinine being.

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Are you so Dotish?
Do you really have to show you stupidity on nairaland.
You can as well have sex with harlots without a condom,fool.

Priceless95: nw he is callin sayin he couldnt forget me

After how many months.Dont mind him.
He is a liar,he just wants to bleep you.

fiction

Ofcourse if the catholics say that Mary was Holy,Pure,Immaculate etc,yes they are right,afterall base don the standard then she was pure,she followed the mosiac law,did the necessary attonement for her sin,the only sin she didnt commit was fornication,which was explicitly stated by the bible(virgin).
But portraying Mary as sinless is a lie,fallacy,arrant nonsense and a hoax completely from the pit of hell.
Portraying her as sinless is wrong,
“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:” (Romans 3:10)
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)
Mary was infact a sinner.

There is no basis for comparison of the birth of Jesus with any other person on earth,He was the only person that was born by a virgin(the last time I checked),and His conception was by the overshadowing of the HolySpirit(last time I also checked didnt hear of any other conception by the HolySpirit) so Jesus being Holy shouldnt be a big deal.
So Mary was pure during the conception of Jesus(the scriptures shows that explicitly,but the point that she was sinless has no basis,except you want to prove otherwise).

Holyvirgin you are wrong:
Biblically, Mary was a dirty, rotten, vile, sinneR—just like you and me, and everyone else. The only sinless Person to ever walk this earth was the Lord Jesus Christ Himself (2nd Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 4:15)
Hebrews 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--yet was without sin.
2 Corinthians 5:21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
Mary was a sinner and needed a Savior just like everyone else. In fact, Mary called Jesus “God my Saviour” in Luke 1:47. Jesus is the precious Savior! Luke 2:11, “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.”

PREMISE FOR MY ASSUMPTION

There are seven distinct ages(dispensation) throughout the entire gamut of Human history. They start and end in paradise.Human history begins with Paradise Lost(Eden); it ends with Paradise Restored(Heaven).
The seven ages are:
1. The Age of Innocence
2. The Age of Conscience
3. The Age of Human Government
4. The Age of Promise
5. The Mosaic Law
6. The Dispensation of Grace
7. The Millennial Reign of Christ and the Redeemed.
I dont have the time to explain everything,but I will explain the ones relevant to our discussion.
In the dispensation of law, God gave detailed instructions about how to live, how to structure society, and how to live justly and righteously as a nation. The people said this was good; they could implement these laws and create an upright society. They said in Exodus 19:8 , “All the Lord has spoken we will do.”
At Mount Sinai, the Israelites encamped, and Moses went up to the mountain to hear the Word of the Lord. For them, that Word is the law. This is not just the Ten Commandments written by the finger of God on tablets of stone, but the 613 moral and ceremonial laws contained inthe books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.

The Dispensation of Grace is what we sometimes call the churchage. It is highly relevant to us, because we live in this age. For the first five ages, we can only look back in history to see how God worked in the past. But in this age,we can see how God is working now. The sacrificial death of Jesus Christ on the cross introduced a dispensation of unmerited favor, called grace. Instead of requiring man to live righteously by keeping the law,the righteousness of Another, is imputed to undeserving men and women.
Perhaps the most pertinent scripture for this age is where Paul said: By grace we are saved through faith and not ourworks. Ephesians 2:8-9 .

Mary was born during the dispensation of Law,which means the basis for her justification,will be her obedient to the mosiac law.So if she sinned all she had to do was offer the necessary sacrifice to atone for the sin
“And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, whichwas so named ofthe angel before he was conceived in thewomb. And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him tothe Lord; (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male thatopeneth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.” (Luke 2:21-24)
In the passage above, we are given further proof that Mary was a mere mortal like the rest of us. Mary observed the Jewish Law and she did exactly what that Law told her to do (see Leviticus 12:1- . Mary was unclean for seven days and on the eighth day she brought Jesus to be physically circumcised, in accordance with Leviticus 12:2-3.Mary then continued in her days of purification (33 days) because that was what was required of her under the Jewish law (Leviticus 12:4). Mary then brought forth the required sacrifices as is written in the following scripture:
“And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.” (Leviticus 12:
As recorded in Luke’s gospel account (Luke 2:24), Mary brought forth the offerings required in “the law of the Lord.” It is most important that you see that one of the offerings was for the burnt offering and the other one was for a SIN offering.

To declare that the Jewish virgin Mary was conceived without sin is to dispute and contradict scripture. So we may rightly conclude, that according to scripture, Mary was in fact a sinner.
“And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior. For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation. He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree. He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away. He hath holpen (helped) his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy; As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever. And Mary abode with her about three months, and returned to her own house.” (Luke 1:46-56)
In the passage above we find Mary giving all the praise and glory to God because he regarded her low (humble)estate. Mary also rejoiced in God her Savior, and we know that only sinners need a Savior.
“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:” (Romans 3:10)
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)
Mary also recognized the fact that the Lord was remembering the mercy that He had promised to Israel through Abraham andHis seed (offspring).
The Lord chose this humble Jewish virgin to bring forth Jesus into the world. He would bring redemption to both Jew and Gentile.
“But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth hisSon, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit ofhis Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.” (Galatians 4:4-6)
The Lord came into this world at just the right time. The fact that Jesus would be born of a virgin was prophesied by Isaiah hundreds of years before the event actually happened!
“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” (Isaiah 7:14)
The word Immanuel (or Emmanuel) means God with us, and thattestifies to the deity of Jesus Christ. Jesus would come forth from the womb of this Jewish virgin because Mary was overshadowed by the Holy Spirit. There was no human intimate relations between Mary and a man.

this is seriously serious.
Unless your husband goes through a complete change in thinking,I bet the marriage may just remain this way.
Explain to his sisters or mother.(the mother can lecture him on how his father and her.............).
I think if the mother explains your plight to him as a woman he may change.
Sorry,I really feel for you,it's really excruciating.(one more reason am scared of marriage)