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Why do we have to put each other down to put our point across. Please relax on the curse words and swearing. In a sane country, those guys will be in jail for beating up the tax collectors.. We have a long way to go

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YomiYarzo: You are only familiar with what happens in your home town. Tecno is no match for a half dead blackberry.
Who knows tecno outside nigeria and kenya. Tecno does not rank top 10 Chinese phone manufacturer. The A+ is a shameless copy of the S4, the only thing they didn't copy is the samsung name on the phone
Infact tecno phones will only sell in this part of the world, in develop markets in places like Europe such phones won't clear customs as they will be infringing on patent laws.

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Tell em... Techno can never sell in developed countries. Whos sure about the specs of their processors. They can quote anything for all i care.
There is no copyright law in nigeria and patent law is weak. Companies like techno will strive

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elektra80: @Op. I feel ur pain, but my question is why not buy a toyota van in the first place, why buy a Dodge rather, then having to convert a Dodge Chasis to a Toyota Engine. It would have been cheaper on a long run buying a Toyota Van than having to go through the stress of conversion. Even the money for conversion alone, add it to the cost of the Dodge and u could have bought a good Toyota van. There is no way u won't lose some features of the Original van after the conversion. ALso pls let us know if the fuel economy is significantly better than the way it was before the conversion.

Bros, i think op was misled by his mechanics and not knowing enough about cars worsened the situation. I believe he has learnt his lesson and so has everyone reading this thread. We live and learn

The Question should be " HOW NOT TO RUIN AN ENGINE". Most Nigerian mechanics and car owners alike do not know how to maintain an engine.
I think we should try to educate them more on that topic . It is easy for an Engine to last 400,000km with regular oil change and proper tune up
Most modern engine are very reliable if proper maintenance are done on time .
I still want to know why Most cars in Nigeria require engine replacement after 2 years. Dont get me started on the conversion. Toyota Engine in a dodge,Toyota engine in V-dub. The list is endless

Good thread OP.

imperiouxx: And did I say it's the greatest risk factor for diabetes or majority of diabetes in US ARE ASSOCIATED with soda? Thought you know I stated in the next post that I was talking about DIABETES MELLITUS. And for this type of diabetes..... Yes sir/ma'am, sugar is the POTENTIAL risk factor.



Lolz..... Ok sir/ma'am seems you like to know that high blood sugar level (hyperglycemia) can contribute to increase in blood lipoproteins and eventually leads to hypertensive arteriosclerosis cardiovascular disease...... this is a fact. And is it too tortuous?

That's nutritional Biochem for you. A free journal is here for your perusal sir/ma'am: http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/26/6/869.full

So, is my claim right or not?




Yes sir/ma'am but in this context, we are only talking about soda and my reference was DIABETES MELLITUS.

YOU ARE Partial correct.
Coke ( most drinks including alcohol and redbull )causes high blood sugar which causes OBesity . Now OBesity causes diabetes.
The link you are missing is the obesity part.
Now. Diabetes mellitus type 1 is autoimmune. Diabetes mellitus type 2 is what you are refering about.
All in all. A skinny athletic dude with BM1 18-22 can drink 10 bottle of coke everyday and live an active lifestyle will not get diabetes mellitus type 2 BUT a fat joe that lives in kentucky who sits on the couch all day and drinks coke every minute has a high chance of getting diabetes. to be diabetic, coke is a factor not the deciding factor. In Scenario 2. The body is not making enough insulin to reduce the blood sugar or the body is very insensititve to insulin.
Thats why treatment of diabetes mellitus type 2 is oral hypoglycemic ingredient ( thalizenidionies, metformin , glyburide) and treatment of type 1 is Insulin. 2 different mechanism . 2 different treatment protocol.
Conclusion. Diabetes mellitus type 2 has coke as a slight risk factor. Coke ( high blood sugar ) is not the problem . rather , the CLEARING of that sugar from the blood .
COKE is a risk factor not the CAUSE of diabetes . 2 different meanings. I believe most people here are thinking that high blood sugar causes diabetes. It is a risk factor not the cause of diabetes

infolekan: Don't mind the op jooo...he was expecting thumbs up and all and don't expect any incisive dissection if his post.
Bringing poo on US like we don't read about then daily here.
CONSUMPTION OF SUGAR isn't NOT a risk factor for diabetes.....obesity is a risk factor.
Taking 20 cubes of sugar daily won't make you have diabetes if there's no genetic predisposition or other risk factors for it....it only increases the RATE and could prevent in people who already have the risk factor.
Please don't ask me for the difference between rate and the risk medically. They're not the same thing.
And don't even bring US studies into the bag.....that's what I study everyday and half of the food we all eat will be termed poisons when you go down that line.

You are right bro. Did you see how the other dude was screaming he is a biochemist and that makes him a fountain of knowledge. I was shocked. Sugar this Sugar that.

lekkie073: Dat u don't have access to the info doesn't mean its not coming out. Its coming out on 19th to be precise.....and who told u its malware. So any app not installed from play store is malware? No sir!

Am come back on the 19 and quote you. Blackberry is based in canada and i have not heard any chattter about it coming out. Why now when every news on the blog is about apple iphone release on the 20. Blackberry needs all the publicity it can get and releasing it now will not generate enough interest cus people are all interested in the new apple products.

saddler: ..if i call you mumu now...he be like say i dey insult you.
i have studied metabolism of carbohydrate/protein/fatty acid and there is no pathway that DIRECTLY converts simple sugars to fats.
if you dont know what to type, just mute your fingers.

YOU ARE RIGHT BRO. You are a good student of biochemistry.

imperiouxx: Do you care to know what warning is given in hospitals against drinking soda in Nigeria? In the US, majority of obesity, diabetes and hypertension are associated with soda. People who live healthy don't even take it or have stopped taking it here.





What's this silly maggot saying? Coca cola is a trade mark for an international product. If I put something up means you and I are both in the same country or I'm a marketer? Silly fool. You're just talking shiit without having any clue of the shiit you spew about. I'm a biochemist, I know about daily dietary requirement better than you do. And who says coke contains no tetraoxophosphate (V) acid. Your brain must be having shortage of nervous impulses. Check if coke contains phosphoric acid or not here idiiot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola

I love taking on goats like you.

In the US, majority of obesity, diabetes and hypertension are associated with soda. People who live healthy don't even take it or have stopped taking it here

Yes Soda is associated with diabetes but thats not the greatest risk factor to diabetes. Risk factors include lifestyle ( Not eating healthy ), Genetic predisposition ( type2 diabetes ), lack of exercise. Stop spreading false rumours. Risk factors of HTN are another topic. Dont lump everything together. There are different types of HTN. You have to be very specific.
You need to calm down on the cursing. If soda which contains 45g of sugar per 350ml, how about Redbull?, Donuts? canned foods?. Those contain alot of sugars, sodium and preservatives.

FACT - DRINKING 2 LITERS OF COKE EVERYDAY WILL NOT RESULT in DIABETES. There are other factors that result in Diabetes .

Type 2 Diabetes result from too much sugar in your blood and cells insesitive to the actions of insulin. 90% of foods you eat are converted to Sugar (garri, rice, fufu etc).

kossynerule: Well the situation is not that black and white.Assad is a tyrant that has ruled Syria for a long time and he is no longer popular among his people.When the people you are leading no longer want you,the honorable thing is to step down.America has been in the fore-front of ensuring that democracy and its tenets are upheld in every country of the world,and Obama being the ruler of the free nation cannot abandon that role.In war,like politics,the only thing that remains permanent is interest.No permanent enemy.No permanent ally.and Obama needs the syrian rebels to fight Assad.So Obama aligning with the very enemy that he fights is not his fault.Circumstances change.So u guys should cut him some slacks

Dude, You sound like you get all your News from CNN, FOX and NBC. Read about the history of America. They are not spreading democracy like you said. Its all about "INTEREST". Democracy is a cover to wreck havoc on the country. Latin american countries learnt that lesson along time ago. There is more to things. You need to read more on world history and politics and not this bs we all see on the news.

god_of_music: Have you guys noticed that Wizkid sucks these days He can't sing something inspiring and that's BAD!!!

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He still getting paid. Get as much money as you can while you can. Thats the name of the game

No body knows the date and moreover its not in the News over here.
It will not come out on friday because Apple new offering (Iphone 5s and 5C ) will overshadow it.
Unless you have a reliable source from waterloo, then this news is b.s. Rumours about BBM coming to android and ios has been going on for a while but no specific date has been put out.

Most of those links are malware. Be careful people

If Oyedepo has businesses in his name, then he has to pay taxes.

russianmob27: i'll just give my wife my big c-cork

U REALLY GOT JOKES

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yungboss: i know wht you mean...but infiniti cars are good handlers too (luxury brand you would say). No qualms...

Infiniti are inching close to the germans. Infinti G35 and the BMW 3 series has been going at it since 2003. They are very close. Infiniti G35 is getting close to the 3 series handling which is the BEST in that class category. G35 is called "Japan BMW". long term reliability is in the japanese favor though.

shoot@sight:
Oga you are comparing luxury models №ω ... Let us come down a bit ,,, say. Toyota camry '03 model (big daddy). Vs a same year audi A4 model. Τђε Audi wins hands down any time any day.. Infact very few cars can touch an Audi. Just like oga Ikenna did, I stumbled on an article about potentially dangerous electronic stability issues on the lexusGX470.

Toyota camry and Audi A4 are not in the same class. Toyota camry, nissan Altima, Mazda 6, Honda Accord, volkswagen Passat , Ford fusion are in the same class (Midsize Sedan)

Audi A4, Acura TL, Infiniti G35, LEXUS IS, BMW 3 SERIES, MERCEDES C CLASS, Cadillac CTS, lincoln MKZ are in the same class ( Entry level Luxury)

Trac: I did not refer to the contemporary Benzes. I referred to the pre-contemporary models. The word you used was reliability. Those were not reliable, they were durable. Two engineering approaches. An owner will not release a well-maintained and excellent conditioned Benz at market value.



Some truth to what you have listed above, there is still a method of calculating it; lest anything goes (even lobbying). Machines are calculated over a period of time as standard (usually 7 years) with other variables considered along with calculated wear and operations. Engineering economics is not my strength. There are certain milestones considered. The same is applied in automotive but to an applied approach. There has to be a standard to all complies to.

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Mercedes has been over-designing. They aren't just over-engineering. Nothing really will change till the world's economy changes. That is when the money will be worth their products. Designing a deliberate product and deciding over what the life-cycle will be is intentional. The constraint is usually the money into production and return-customers.

They can calculate how long their product will last . Never can they calculate what the used price will be . The market forces will determine that .
Its a tough economy like you said so everyone is trying to survive. I do not think the core of mercedes buyers really care about reliability . Most Mercedes in North america are leased anyways. The trick is to design the product to last up till the end of your warranty

Trac: You are partially correct. The American is spot-on but incomplete. You did not add that the technologies used are old plus the magic word: profit. Ironically, GM happens to be one of the world's sophisticated manufacturers when it comes to research-and-development. You wouldn't know this except you are affiliated with the automotive industry. Yet it is difficult to prove.

However, your reference to Benz is slightly off and anecdotal. Over-engineering is ridiculously expensive and time consuming. Field-Analysis-Tests (F.A.T) with research took years, sometimes spanning over a decade-and-a-half. For this approach, a large "design-space" signified the core with unlimited money and understanding. They lived to what the slogan was and the sole reason why few models spanned the century. This philosophy is what attracted me to Mercedes in the 90's. To keep this within the discussion as Car-Talk, certain key-points will be omitted. By the 90's, the tide had turned beyond their control. In 1993, it was disclosed over-engineering will stop and the obvious reasons were used to buttress the fact. Certain models were still in production. The C Class was introduced as the signature to seal this new philosophy. In 1999, the ritual was done to bury the overall century of unparallelled engineering. The models today, A, B, C (and I can't think of another) are for the sole reason of funding research and development. It is not to gain market share but cash-flow for costs. Mercedes core engineering (except for the 2007 and onward C Classes) are absent in these models. No car manufacturer spends money per day as Mercedes does in the world to date. 1995 - 1996 was when MB joined the NYSE via the Chrysler merging. The conspiracy theories can begin from there.

The answer to this thread is exceedingly dynamic. A long thread cannot comprehensively answer this. In the world today, Japanese cars are the reliable cars. The Koreans are not recognised for such. Toyota was held as the standard but was leveraged during the 2009 scandal that tainted the image perpetually. Nevertheless, it is the industry standard the world follows now (and that is in all sects, not just automotive).

I got certified in designing automotive parts in 2008 with the most advanced solution-tool used in the industry. The perception the layman does not understand is that the life of a product is determined from the very beginning. It was disturbing when I got to discover this in one of the professional trainings attended in 2006 and have thought differently since then. There are certain constraints though. A huge constraint is the cost followed by material selection. In some cases, it is cash-flow and the necessity to remain in business. If you think manufacturers cannot design a vehicle/product and attain at least reliability status, then a lot is yet to be learnt. Sometimes, during the design-review, your superiors can tell you that it is too expensive and revisions need to be made (especially when cost of manufacturing is affected). Another tactic is to design the product well but the manufacturing process shaves some dependability off it, thus affecting the overall life-cycle. This is an area MB cut corners in. Time exposed the 1996 E Class. There's a lot more to that chapter but unnecessary.

The Japanese have cheap labour and can afford to price their vehicles which-ever-way they deem fit. Labour is not cheap in Europe. The Europeans are way advanced in mechanics than any race in the world. It is a strong fact that cannot be debunked. Yes, today's European systems are complex. The truth is that it can still be engineered to work problem-free but they wouldn't. The market will not pay the hefty prices associated. In the 70's and 80's, a base MB (E-Class) cost the price of a home in the United States. Forty years later, the base E is still pegged at $46,000; plus it is loaded with necessary gizmos (including a cup holder). Common sense requires an explanation. $46,000 in 1980's rate to today's adjusted inflation is almost $90,000. This is still the price of a home in certain parts of the United States. How do we explain the difference in the money shaved plus the additional systems that evolved over time? Figure that! The Japanese are no saints. Discussing theirs is another episode and Honda is the perfect scape goat in this reference. This isn't to say there aren't others, it's just what I happen to discover. In my humble opinion, I consider the approach worse.



Manufacturers do not make money off used cars. Money is only made off new cars. The Germans are not stupid. The resale value does not bother them. Those that could not afford it when new would realise that after the used-purchase, they cannot afford the up-keep. Money would then be made off parts and misc. services. The low-end models are not for your experience, it is to keep the money-vault lubricated.

Why the prices sink is another subject matter. It is calculated. I can't remember what it is called and the associated variables used. I'll have to check my school notes. It also doesn't have to be followed. A well acknowledged fact is this: a well maintained Mercedes Benz will never sell for the resale value. It will always be higher, thus rendering the book value ratings useless. I don't mean these new ones.

I didn't meant Mercedes makes money off "used cars". Rather, what I meant is the perception from the used car buyer. A used car buyer would be more inclined to buy a new Mercedes if he his experience with his old Mercedes is good.
If the experience is bad, he would swear off the brand.
A well maintained Mercedes, no matter if you have the service record and all that WIlL NOT sell more than a comparable Lexus. (comparing Lexus Ls vs S class with same equipment ). That's the power of reliability .
Am talking about North America market.
Not sure about European market though.

The answer to this thread is exceedingly dynamic. A long thread cannot comprehensively answer this. In the world today, Japanese cars are the reliable cars. The Koreans are not recognised for such. Toyota was held as the standard but was leveraged during the 2009 scandal that tainted the image perpetually. Nevertheless, it is the industry standard the world follows now (and that is in all sects, not just automotive).


The koreans have stepped up their game. Hyundai products are among the best in reiability according to JD power and associate "Reliability study ". The Toyota scandal did not affect them so much .Sales went down few quarters but bounced back up because of their campaign . Remenber "Toyota care Campaign".

[b]The Japanese have cheap labour and can afford to price their vehicles which-ever-way they deem fit. Labour is not cheap in Europe. The Europeans are way advanced in mechanics than any race in the world. It is a strong fact that cannot be debunked. Yes, today's European systems are complex. The truth is that it can still be engineered to work problem-free but they wouldn't. The market will not pay the hefty prices associated. In the 70's and 80's, a base MB (E-Class) cost the price of a home in the United States. Forty years later, the base E is still pegged at $46,000; plus it is loaded with necessary gizmos (including a cup holder). Common sense requires an explanation. $46,000 in 1980's rate to today's adjusted inflation is almost $90,000. This is still the price of a home in certain parts of the United States. How do we explain the difference in the money shaved plus the additional systems that evolved over time? Figure that! The Japanese are no saints. Discussing theirs is another episode and Honda is the perfect scape goat in this reference. This isn't to say there aren't others, it's just what I happen to discover. In my humble opinion, I consider the approach worse.[/b]

Most of the japanese cars are now manufactured states side. And labour aint cheap here. Alot has changed over the years, productions is becoming more automated which reduces cost and manufacturers including mercedes are finding ways to add more plastics in their cars. Automakers are finding ways to cut cost and some people are better than others( leatherette and instead of real leather). The japanese are good at cost cutting but Mercedes aint. In the 90s when cost cutting was abound at mercedes, they churned out unreliable products.Customer satisfaction fell and people went elsewhere.
You might think the germans do not care about reliability, they do. Bad reliability drove FIAT out of the northamerica market in 1983.